We all know that HRT and smoking are not compatible it has to be one or the other. My doctor told me that half of her MTF patient's that were smokers could not quit and chose to remain in their previous lives. Instead of a possible new life that offers hope and unleashing your inner identity to be set free and achieve things that were once thought unachievable without any dysphoria.
I'm mainly writing this for friend of mine who is wrestling with this concept but I'm sure there are many others that are in the same boat, that could benefit from anyone's experience.
Could anyone offer advice, if this is worthwhile to do and how they did it would be most appreciated by many.
I personally have never smoked so must rely on all of you that have.
love Tatiana
My endo said that the patch is recommended for smokers. I have plans to quit once I begin hormones cold turkey.
Thanks Ginger
Best wishes for you quitting but cold turkey is pretty abrupt I hope you can do it but little by little is okay too as long as you achieve your goal.
Thanks for your reply love Tatiana
I tried all kinds of methods for quitting smoking in the past. Nothing worked but going cold turkey. I started smoking again about 3 years ago after coming out when my life imploded.
Thanks Ginger,
Your experience is highly valued I myself can't quite relate to it having never smoked but I can appreciate what you said.
Cigarettes are made to be the most addictive possible it's a way to ensure repeat business and it's probably the hardest substance to get off of. But because you beat it once cold turkey I believe you can do it again, but it is so common to hear your statement that when things go bad it's so easy to go back to smoking.
I most sincerely wish you the best and never quitting trying to quit.
Love Tatiana
When I started HRT in 1996, I was using tablets and I was told in no uncertain terms, smoking is a NO!!! So I quit and endured the beginnings of puberty sans nicotine. It was pretty brutal for a month or so as I also quit drinking at the same time. Never discussed it with anyone, but they certainly figured it out in a hurry.
That time around lasted 7 months and even after I chose to stop HRT, I decided to leave those vices alone going forward and I honestly feel it has been a positive in my life. I am not a T-Totaller, my choice to stop was for medical reasons. As the healthy side started to become apparent, it made sense to me to just leave it alone.
When I started HRT again, my endo asked me about my habits and when I told her I had quit decades ago as I began HRT. She asked if I was willing to quit again and when I explained I never started again, she BEAMED!
Anything that can reduce our risk factors seems like a positive step.
Thanks Kaitylynn
Your story is so very positive for many that are out here. I'm certain it's going to be very inspirational to all that read it. I'm so glad that you found it within you to leave that part of your former life behind you because it's only contrary to where you want to be in a healthy lifestyle.
I'm so glad you didn't pick it up again along with all the health risks just think of all the money that you could use for much cooler stuff.
Thanks again for your very inspirational response I hope it touches many others here as I'm sure it will.
Love Tatiana
I told my dr I quit smoking and asked about vaping she said it was ok. Anyone hear otherwise?
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Tatiana..One of the greatest decisions I ever made was to quit smoking. I quit cold turkey 30 years ago and the birth of my son. I didn't smoke that much but I did spend 4 1/2 hours on the LA freeways. Ninety nine miles driveway to driveway. I had my heart problems a few years later. Most people with cardiomyopathy and Congestive Heart Failure don't last five years. I have lasted at least twenty five. I think this is the number one reason.
Yup! Smoking is a no no if one expects to survive and maintain health through transitioning with HRT. They always say, "The easiest way to quit smoking is to replace the smoking with something better". For me, that is transitioning on HRT. It has been over a year since I quit smoking and I will admit, I still think the smell of cigarette smoke is like filet migono, or the best damn burger I've ever had. It's hard at first but it gets easer over time. I almost never think about it anymore. I do however think about the money I'm saving all the time. Another plus for the replacement of smoking with something better. Tell your friend that because of the savings, I have a lot of nice dresses, skirts and cute tops. And don't get me going on shoes ;D. Hope this helps.
Hugs,
Donica.
Hello Dawn and Donica,
Thank you both very much for your experienced responses.
To Dawn
Yes I agree quitting smoking must be one of life's pivotal moments.
Thank you for your experienced advice it seems that quitting cold turkey seems to be the way to go to be the preferred method.
It must have been difficult with all that drive time staying away from cigarettes but I'm so glad you had it within you to persevere from this Vice which certainly attributed far overcoming your doctor's expectations and I believe you will persevere far into the future because we all need you here for inspiration to the rest of us. And of course generally wish for your well-being.
To Donica
Thank you for sharing your life experience with everyone to show how you conquered this unneeded and expensive and a complete roadblock to HRT. I can't quite relate with you with what it's like to give up smoking but I do know what you mean about replacing it with something that's better. I personally no longer feel it's necessary to try and mask the symptoms with other things.
I'm sure there's Temptation in the smell of cigarettes around you but by now I believe you realize this is far less of a priority in your life and would only be a roadblock into realizing your true freeness in being who you want.
Thank you both very much for your highly personal responses I'm sure they will make a difference in lives of members and lurkers here reading them.
Love Tatiana
I'm a smoker and just started hrt, while my doctor says it's good to quit and there's an increased risk of blood clots, it doesn't mean I would be denied my medicine. Though I do live in a state with informed consent. That being said, after seeing some images of blood clots online, that stuff is pretty freaky, and I'm definitely considering quitting now. I had quit once before for about a year or so and hated it, the nicotine part can suck but I think is the easiest part to get over, its the actual habit of just smoking itself that's hard to overcome, it becomes a means of killing time and measuring your day.
If anyone needs motivation to quit or staying quit, just look at my avatar.
I breathe through a hole in my neck after throat cancer surgery.
Giving up cigarettes might be a bit hard, giving up a larynx is a hell of a lot harder.
The last two times I quit, I found acupuncture to be tremendously helpful with the detox part. After that, all bets are off - this is where you have to replace/modify/remake/remodel the fabric of space and time, and this is where things went south.
I freely admit the perceived efficacy of this treatment may have been a placebo effect. Also, I got it for free. Still it may be worth a shot, especially if you befriend a generous acupuncturist.
Thank you StealthStilettos and Cindy
To StealthStilettos
I wish you well my friend to beat this habit and addiction as you clearly stated.
I think at some point you're going to have to choose between the two regardless if your doctor got you started. My GP that I'm receiving treatment from said she wouldn't even consider starting anyone that smoked it would have to be one or the other and she also told me about half of her MTF patients cannot quit smoking and choose to live in there smoking lives attempting to mask the dysphoria with alcohol and other substances that are clearly not the best choice, it's far better to address the core issue that's causing these symptoms.
I think you would find far more satisfaction in living your life freely and not depending on something that could halt your dreams in a hurry.
All the best to you for deciding which path is better for you whatever it is.
And to Cindy
Thank you very much for sharing your story and I'm so very sorry it had to end that way but it's very nice of you to offer yourself as a bit of Hardcore reality for those risking smoking cigarettes.
If the immediate reality of your situation doesn't sway a few people from smoking I don't know what would.
Thank you very much Cindy for sharing this with everyone I myself was completely unaware.
Best of health, happiness and love to you both.
Tatiana
Tatiana, over a few years prior to actually quitting I had tried to ween myself away. Unsuccessful, when it came time...I went cold turkey. I will say that no-one wanted to be near me for a while, but in the end I think it actually made it easier. Every time I thought of smoking, I would look back at that short slice of hell and it was enough that I did not want to go through it again! LOL, I know that sounds sort of simplistic...but it worked!
We smoke for different reasons. Some do it to relax away stress, like taking a five minute breather in the midst of things. I found once it was no longer there to provide that, I did have to find something to replace it. I would get up from my desk and walk a few laps in the hall of the building and then go back to work. This covered the habit that was the break smoking allowed for me. The withdrawals...and that is certainly what they were had to sort themselves out through time.
You got this! Just know that. YOU have the power here to let it go when you are ready and you will know that moment. There are plenty of aids to help, gum, patches, spinners and such. I have watched them work for others very effectively. For me though, I was on a crash course with transition and that was one of the big initial bumps...thought it best to hit it head on :)
Thank you Lavish Staircase.
For sharing your knowledge with everyone regarding what worked for you might also work for someone else.
thanks for your reply.
Love Tatiana
Hello Kaitlynn
Thanks for your story it seems to ring a familiar tune I've been hearing that it's easy to quit but far harder to to make it stick forever.
I know you would never go back, thank you for being such an inspiration for all that need it out here.
And yes we're all imperfect humans just trying to get by by any means we can, I myself never smoked but was always cracking my Knuckles and being fidgety and tapping my hands and feet always because I've always been a drummer and seeked my release there I guess.
Though I know this is hardly what you're talking about.
Because I think quitting smoking permanently would have to rank among your greatest achievements in your life.
Hats off to you dear achieving this and showing all that this can truly be done.
All the best love,Tatiana
Quote from: DawnOday on August 31, 2018, 04:23:16 PMI did spend 4 1/2 hours on the LA freeways. Ninety nine miles driveway to driveway.
Now that officially 'retired' find I smoke much less. 10 to 12 hrs/day 5/6 days/week driving in/out city traffic was the absolute pits! Not to mention all the granite dust from quarries and 30yrs of commuting to get my dose of noise pollution & jet exhaust! Back in mid 50's, when first 'misborn', seems everybody smoked and now it's all designer "anti-depressant" pharmaceuticals unconvinced what's worse!
Oh and then there's the cost! At $5 a pack why can't my "med of choice" be applied toward "annual deductible"? Nicotine is a highly toxic poison yet they say that's not what kills us?
I quit every night when asleep suppose cold-turkey would be best approach do it for "the grand-kids" number 3, a boy, "in-the oven"? 8)
Smoking doesn't preclude someone from HRT (estrogen, specifically). But I've read that it DOUBLES your chances of developing DVT and PE. The risk is higher with oral estrogen. Safer is injectable. Even safer, patches. Safest is supposed to be pellets. I've smoked for 26 years now. I went with the pellets.
On the other side of things, surgeons want you to quit for improved post-operative healing. I've found a surgeon to do an orchiectomy and have the funds to pay for it, but I'm having a hard time quiting smoking. Their policy is that you have to be smoke free for at least 30 days.
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Thank you StacyRenee
For telling me both of these could be done at the same time even though I know it's not the consensus of most doctors but I suppose it comes down to the individuals doctor preference.
I just assumed it was totally incompatible because I know with my doctor it's one or the other.
Thank you for sharing this information that I was unaware of.
Everything we do in life can be balanced by the risk reward ratio,
There are definitely many things in life that we have no choice with but with this we do have a choice.
I'm not implying this is you dear,
But if someone has reached the total end of their line and this is the only alternative well I think it's worth the risk.
I was just wondering if you quit for the required 30 days would you let it go forever? But whatever way you choose is your decision and no one has a right to tell you how to live your own life.
I think that Cindy made a very powerful statement with her undeniable reality, and very caring nature to try to prevent others from all the risks that can happen. This actually scares me even though I don't smoke but my wife smokes like a chimney and I know it's almost impossible to get her to stop. And I have stopped trying because it's ultimately her choice and not mine to make.
All the very best to both of you with your very informative replies, love Tatiana
I think even without HRT, quitting smoking is worth it. My father started smoking about age 13 and continued at a rate of between 1 and 2 packs a day. As Mark Twain said, quitting smoking is easy, I've done it hundreds of times and that was my father's story. As he approached 80, he was in good health however the doctor found he had cancer that had pretty well invaded his entire body. Then he was able to quit smoking however he passed away about 4 months latter. One of the things he said was had he realized that smoking was so dangerous, he would have quit a long time ago. I take that with a grain of salt because they have been printing the smoking warning on the side of cigarets starting sometime around 1965. I am sure that in the following 28 years my father must have seen it at least one time.
Other people get cancer all the time but it's really only important when it happens to you. It's best to quit now and make sure it doesn't happen to you.
Thank you Dena
For your wise words and sharing your father's story. I'm glad that your father at least lived to an average age even though I'm sure he would have more years to give if he did not engage in this Insidious habit.
I fully agree with you on your position.
The one thing I don't understand is why this country squabbles over gun control, traffic safety issues that are insignificant in the numbers that meet their demise compared to smoking.
A quarter million Americans meet their end every year due to tobacco-related illnesses, how is this even tolerated.
It's unfortunate that our capitalistic Society targets on short-term gains irrelevant of the overall health of its own citizens.
The tobacco industry has so much money they merely Lobby their will into law despite the extremely significant cost to our Healthcare System and of course losing a quarter million Americans a year seems unconscionable.
This country Mourns its war heroes in WW2 and Vietnam and there was much media coverage about these losses. But these losses pale in comparison to our reality now, which now is a half a million in 2 years, that equals the total of all that were lost during these two Wars
These veterans that gave their life for their countries were drafted and had no choice, but smoking cigarettes is a choice that can be avoided. Please realize you are just being used as a pawn by big tobacco and they only want you there long enough to be a repeat customer and could care less about the quality and length of your life as long as you stay hooked and keep buying their product.
It's no wonder that the media never talks about this because they too are under the control of big tobacco money.
Doesn't everyone realize they've been brainwashed through Decades of strategically engineered advertising that true, it's no longer out there as much but it affects Linger on from parent to sibling and so forth.
I do admit I tried cigarettes when I was younger but found I just got nauseated and sick and it tasted bad and it made you smell bad, let alone all the fires that were started particularly decades ago. But this is never mentioned in the media could this be because they are clearly under the big tobacco's lobbying power.
Sorry for the outpouring of passion but it almost makes me feel a little embarrassed that this nation squabbles over a few deaths but allows a quarter million deaths to occur every year.
This really makes me wonder if our country cares more about us or how we spend our money.
The answer's obvious and I rest my case
Smoking is highly addictive. Some say it's more difficult to quit smoking than it is to quit heroin. Combine that with young people think they will live forever and bad things only happen to other but not them. This allows them to take the first puff and feel the rush that tobacco gives you. Within a week or two, your hooked and quitting is going to put you through withdrawal. Naturally there is an easy fix and that's another hit off a cigarette.
The only way to be truly free of tobacco is not to take the first puff. If you already have, quit now because the longer you smoke the more difficult it will be to quit.
We have tried to stop younger people from smoking by placing a minimal age on buying tobacco but they always seem to find a source somewhere. It might be their parents stock or a older friend makes the purchase. I am not sure we can stop everybody however over the years education has reduce the number of smokers. When I was young, it was about half the adult population. Now I believe it's less that a quarter and with no smoking locations, sometimes it easer to not smoke than find a place to smoke.
Thank you Dina for your similar sentiment. I also have heard this is the hardest drug to quit and I would rank anyone that beat it as one of their greatest accomplishments they could ever achieve in life, I think this is more important than your job or career because without health nothing else matters.
But is there not a time that Society can truly acknowledge the deadlyness in this.
I do believe our society can act eventually, remember when we were all burning leaded gasoline in our vehicles. But then due to conclusive scientific proof that determined we were all being poisoned by breathing the Lead emissions out of the gasoline.
Our government reacted over this and eliminated it to unleaded gas only.
Thank you for mentioning that there are less smokers than there were, perhaps this mentality is sinking in that were basically poisoning ourselves.
Perhaps I've been a little too hard on our government because as you said smoking is reduced and there's no more advertisements or cigarette machines everywhere like there was when I grew up.
I do hope this trend continues and hope someday smoking cigarettes will go the Wayside like Leaded gasoline.
While I would never recommend consuming lead, it's no where near as dangerous as some of the other metals. The compound they put in gasoline was dangerous however after it was burned it was relatively safe. Much of the lead exposure of the time was due to the lead solder used to seal food cans. They would coat the inside of the can to prevent the lead from mixing with the food but it didn't always work. Another danger was Mexican pottery. They didn't fire it at a high enough temperature to seal the cay and acid in the food would dissolve it out of the pottery. Probably the biggest problem with lead was house paint. It was fine as long as it didn't flake off the surface but when it did, young children would often eat it.
While the amount of leaded gas has been greatly reduced, it can still be found. It's used for racing fuels where the octane need to be far higher than anything currently produced. You can also buy the lead additive and mix it yourself to produce higher octane fuel. I don't know for sure but it may also be available as aviation fuel for engines that need it.
I have handled a good deal of it for shell reloading however I am very careful to clean my hands after I am done. Also no drinking or eating while I am reloading. If anybody has ever had an issue with lead in the shooting sports with the proper handing of lead, I am not aware if it.
Very true Dena late model leaded gas
Was far less prevalent in the atmosphere then in the early days.
It's unfortunate I can't remember the man that first uncovered this quite a while ago as I seen on a Cosmos series on it. He is attributed to probably saving more human lives than any other individual that lived because he's the first that correlated the deadliness that occurred in the first leaded fuels.
And yes I agree with you absolutely there are many far more dangerous metals but lead is cumulative and will cause problems when it reaches its toxic limits.
And I also know what you mean about how to carefully handle lead when reloading
I do a lot of reloading and stop casting my own bullets and just buy the jacketed stuff because I was getting a little tired of the lead fouling especially in my rifle calibers
It wasn't so much a problem in my pistols because they shoot a much slower velocity but it's still a dirty business cleaning them and I completely got away from exposed lead. The cheaper jacketed stuffs competitively-priced enough for me.
But anyways I think I'm getting off track here a little bit.
But the bottom line Remains the Same we're all exposed to different things that could be dangerous to us and it's our choice on how to handle it.
An ounce of prevention does seem like it's worth more than a pound of cure.
I still like the Doobie Bros. :police: :police:
coming from a regular smoker, I would say it always worth quitting smoking. Personally I have never seriously tried to quit.
Smoking has not really affected my hrt. My body developed well and I got bottom surgery and healed well. I am light smoker, I smoke a ultra-mild cigarette and I only smoke around 3 a day.
But my story is different, I only become a regular smoker after I started HRT. I was a social smoker before.. I only smoked when I dressed up. When I went full time, the smoking became a daily thing and I got hooked. I know I dont want to be a life time smoker, but I don't have the will to quit now. I have gone days with a smoke and I think maybe its time to quit, then I get a craving later than day and then I cave and light up.
Honestly, the smoking came about from low self esteem. I couldn't be the woman I always knew I should have been. I didn't care of I got cancer and died. I was ugly, hideous, and grotesque. Yes, it's the slowest form of suicide, but I've always been too chicken-sh*t to do that. Same goes for taking care of my teeth. I'll probably be getting dentures before too long. All from low self esteem.
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Quote from: Tatiana 79 on August 31, 2018, 02:24:26 PM
We all know that HRT and smoking are not compatible it has to be one or the other. My doctor told me that half of her MTF patient's that were smokers could not quit and chose to remain in their previous lives. Instead of a possible new life that offers hope and unleashing your inner identity to be set free and achieve things that were once thought unachievable without any dysphoria.
I'm mainly writing this for friend of mine who is wrestling with this concept but I'm sure there are many others that are in the same boat, that could benefit from anyone's experience.
Could anyone offer advice, if this is worthwhile to do and how they did it would be most appreciated by many.
I personally have never smoked so must rely on all of you that have.
love Tatiana
Well before starting HRT I smoked for 16 or 17 years and honestly I was told if your on estrogen and you smoke and increases the chance of blood clots which means it could of course lead to death so I made sure that the last pack of cigarettes I had was my last cigarette waste-not-want-not in that case but in order to quit smoking I talk to my doctor and started Chantix now I never had any problem with no bad dreams or anything but I don't usually dream so I look at any dream is a good one even if it's a nightmare if you don't wish to go to medication route Altoids Mints they are so strong they make you forget that you want a cigarette I would have went to patch method but they make me really dizzy and lightheaded and so I try to avoid that but needless to say I haven't had a cigarette since I quit I am very proud and I've been around smokers and I'm just like pop a mint I'm good
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First, I wanna thank Tanya for starting this topic. Yeah, she talking about little me :D I was shocked by such supportive approach and it touch me right to the soul. Tanya I love you :)
Second, I wanna thank all of you for sharing your experience. It means a lot to me.
Third, just informing I'm not smoking for 5 days. Hopefully everything continue going that way :)
Quote from: Alice V on September 06, 2018, 12:23:47 PM
First, I wanna thank Tanya for starting this topic. Yeah, she talking about little me :D I was shocked by such supportive approach and it touch me right to the soul. Tanya I love you :)
Second, I wanna thank all of you for sharing your experience. It means a lot to me.
Third, just informing I'm not smoking for 5 days. Hopefully everything continue going that way :)
Congratulations Alice I will warn you it doesn't start to get easy or at least for me it didn't until about 2 or 3 months after I quit but the first two months are the hardest!!! I believe in you you can do this girl
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QuoteI believe in you you can do this girl
Hey, I know I can :D Especially now when all of you support me I just can't fail, it's impossible.
Hey Arianna
I really want to thank you for your personal touch helping Alice but mainly I want to congratulate you on your success story quitting smoking.
I never knew you smoked that long and successfully quit forever but it really shouldn't surprise me because nothing you do does. lol
If ever there was a fierce, indomitable spirit that moves at light speed it's you my dear.
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Hey Arianna
I really want to thank you for your personal touch helping Alice but mainly I want to congratulate you on your success story quitting smoking.
I never knew you smoked that long and successfully quit forever but it really shouldn't surprise me because nothing you do does. lol
If ever there was a fierce, indomitable spirit that moves at light speed it's you my dear.
I thank you very much for your wonderful words but even I have like my issues which right now is in controlling my emotions I called my boyfriend the other night and cried for like an hour for no reason well I had a reason but it was just something small and stupid that I normally wouldn't cry over
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I started at about 14, I tried most the methods Wellbutrin, Chantix , patches, lozenges, gum. None of those ever came close to giving me even a hint that I might want to quit, in fact you could usually find me sucking on a lozenge and puffing on a Camel at the same time. I knew what vaping was but Had never tried it before, then the day when I had three Dr's yelling at me was the day I decided to try it. I started with those little mark 10 ones from the gas station, they kinda sucked and I still wanted a cigarette. Tried a Vuse vibe and that was a little better, urge to smoke was fading. But the pods were so expensive. Then I bought a real mod and haven't had a cigarette since January 19th after about 20 years of smoking. My Dr's have said it's ok and encouraged it, one while enthusiastic, warned me that estrogen and nicotine still are not good together, but it was a lot better then smoking 2 packs a day. If it were not for vaping I would definitely still be smoking. And I feel so much better, no more shortness of breath, hacking up mucus, more energy, it's great. And after stepping down the nicotene levels, I'm using it less and less. If you don't understand it, it can be intimidating getting into mods and e-juice but feel free to pm me, I'd be happy to help anyone quit smoking.
I tried everything cold turkey, switching to cigars, Nicorette gum, eventually made it through the first 48 hours by just drinking a beer every time I wanted a smoke. Developed a new issue with drinking too much...
After that long weekend though, I went on a real fitness kick, which for awhile got me in pretty good shape, but eventually the extra calories caught up with me. Just throwing it out there, substituting one addiction for another can work if nothing else will.
Still haven't smoked in over 15 years...
It's worth quitting smoking whether someone chooses HRT or not; cigarettes suck!...Life out of people!
Ouch... Yes I quit smoking. I've been on HRT for over two years now and didn't stop smoking, until I was diagnosed with stage two lung cancer in March of this year. I had a lobectomy of my top right lung, had five lymphoids removed, it was awful. Because I used to be a heavy smoker, I had every complication in the book and had to spend a long time in the hospital, with a drain in my body: I had a pneumothorax, subcutaneous emphysema, my lung had a leakage and I had too many pleural fluids. I never had so much pain before.
Good thing was though, that I was on so many pain killers (oxycodon, ketamine) that I didn't even notice that had stopped smoking. When I got out of the hospital, I was already past the withdrawal symptoms and just continued to not smoke.
the doctors even tried to pin the lung cancer on my hormones. It seems that estrogen causes a higher probability for lung cancer https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5578103/ so they wanted to discontinue HRT. I only got a new recipe for estrogen, when I indicated I did not want to be treated for cancer anymore if they'd take my hormones away.
Anyway, if you're still smoking: quit TODAY. It really isn't worth it.
Hey
@Rutka71 !
Thanks for sharing this, it definitely sounds awful and demotivating for smoking. That topic was created for me by Tanya, so I guess I should answer you. Nope, almost 2 weeks without single cig, everything going ok for now, and I even kill my wish to celebrate first week with little smoking.
Btw, I see it's your first post here. Welcome to Susan's place. As you see, people here nice and helpful. Hope you'll have good time here and continue to share your experience with us. You can start from creating topic in Introduction forum (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/board,8.0.html) and telling about what brings you here :)
And, ofc, thanks for
@Danni98 ,
@VeronicaLynn and
@MissyMay2.0 for sharing your opinions and providing support. All of you give me more reasons to keep myself out of smoking :)
Welcome Rutka
Thank you for sharing your heartbreaking story with all of us.
I also agree with Alice, she is the almost official welcome girl here.
And I would have to agree with her advice about starting off with your introductory post.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience with everyone here perhaps it'll deter someone from going down the smoking Road.
All the happiness and health to you
Love Tatiana (Tanya)
I smoke and take hrt not so much worry about all the side effects cause I rather live a happy short life full of fun and useing substance that might not be healthy. Than a long boring one. An I must say I am happy with my choice so far. :3
Hey Roseyfox!
I won't try to talk you out of this, it's your life. I realised years ago that you can't quit until you want it. For me it's time when I wanna quit even without hrt, and Tanya just helped me make first step.
Rosey, there is no guarantee that it will be short and happy. My mother never tried to quit, then she had a massive stroke and a bunch of little ones, because she wouldn't quit. Dad just wouldn't buy her any more cigarettes, but she would just steal mine when I wasn't looking or walk down to the corner store and get a pack. Then she had another major stroke. Now I've been changing her diapers for about 16 years now. Both of her sisters have also had major strokes because of smoking. And if that's not enough motivation Dr's will not keep giving you HRT after a stroke.
Quote from: Danni98 on September 13, 2018, 04:42:52 PM
Rosey, there is no guarantee that it will be short and happy. My mother never tried to quit, then she had a massive stroke and a bunch of little ones, because she wouldn't quit. Dad just wouldn't buy her any more cigarettes, but she would just steal mine when I wasn't looking or walk down to the corner store and get a pack. Then she had another major stroke. Now I've been changing her diapers for about 16 years now. Both of her sisters have also had major strokes because of smoking. And if that's not enough motivation Dr's will not keep giving you HRT after a stroke.
I am not scared of disability or death due to smokeing and if they ever took me off my hrt because of such reason. There are other ways in order to get ahold of anything. An if that became infesible. Then I probably have one last bout of fun that I know I wouldn't come back from.
Over all it's your body your choice. And I know how you feel, I loved tobacco in all forms, I've done everything except snuff, even those little berry flavored things you stick in your mouth let dissolve, I LOVED SMOKING! But tbh the harsh reality is if its not a quick death, you won't care much about hrt anyway, you'll just be happy to get a jello cup once in awhile. But as much as I loved smoking, I like not being out of breath after going to the bathroom better. My ex's sister just died a slow miserable 3 year long death from COPD from smoking, also. She never gave up either, she would sit on the porch with her oxygen mask and a pack of Marlboro's, it actually was a pretty gruesome drawn out death. Then there is sticking your choices on someone else, if that happens to you who's going to take care of you? I've had to give up the last 16 years of my life for my mother, and all the complications from that made me more suicidal then being trans ever did. I just couldn't do that to anyone my self, I've told my son if i get like her to leave me in a room with a loaded gun and go see a movie. Seriously give vaping a try, you might find you like it even better then smoking, and it wont kill you.
Hi Alice and Tatiana,
Thank you for your messages and kind words. I just posted an introduction.
xxx
Quote from: Danni98 on September 12, 2018, 12:06:24 PM
I started at about 14, I tried most the methods Wellbutrin, Chantix , patches, lozenges, gum.
Quote from: Danni98 on September 12, 2018, 12:06:24 PM
If you don't understand it, it can be intimidating getting into mods and e-juice but feel free to pm me, I'd be happy to help anyone quit smoking.
I was 16 when I started smoking. Quit for two months when I was in basic and first two weeks of tech school. I regret picking up the habit again. I've don't the patch and gum before with no luck. I've been trying to vape, but just can't seem to get the power level right to where it feels the same as smoking. I finally gave in and asked my doctor for Chantix. I'm on day 8 now so I'm still smoking. I have noticed that I don't get the urges any more (the physical addiction side anyways). I hate resorting to prescription drugs mostly because the side effects terrify me. The only side effect I've experience so far was one night I woke up three times with vivid dreams/nightmares.
I would love to figure out how to set the mod up so I'm happy with vaping. It would be great to vape with no nicotine to replace the mental side of smoking (I've heard it referred to as "oral fixation"). Then I can quit the Chantix as soon as possible.
All of this is mostly motivated by the fact that I've had the money set aside for an orchiectomy for nearly a year now, but the surgeon won't do it until I'm smoke free for 30 days.
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Honestly I still smoked during HRT and I am a heavy smoker, about 30sticks a day roughly.
No general complications prior my SRS.
The issue that I faced is during my SRS, I have issues with necrosis during just after my SRS, recovery was very slow and poor. I had to do corrective surgery. But I still smoke almost equivalent just 7days after my SRS. Well, cant seem to drop the habit but thankfully after the corrective surgery no further complications so far.
One thing I noted that after SRS my patience drop to an all time Low and I get frustrated easily. Smoking somewhat mellows and help me in my irratic mood swings.