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Title: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: MissKatie on November 07, 2018, 01:48:29 PM
Hi all :)
Once I fully accepted I am transgender I went a bit wild buying dresses left right and centre. Now three years later I still go about my business day to day in jeans, trainers and a top.
I do love my dresses but they are so much work, the back zip, the need for sweaty tights the hide the unsightly fat.
Jeans and a top are so much more practical.
Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: KathyLauren on November 07, 2018, 03:41:27 PM
This time of year, I wear mostly jeans and a top no matter where I go.  In summer, you would be more likely to see me in a skirt and top.  I don't wear dresses much at all, because of the difficulty of finding one that fits and looks good.  I only have one that I am happy with, and it is too fancy for daily wear.
Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: Northern Star Girl on November 07, 2018, 04:55:16 PM
In my line of work with my own small business doing tax and finance work for my business and individual clients I do want to show up at my office in something dressier than jeans, a casual top, and sneakers.

For work I usually will wear a modest dress, or a modest skirt and blouse, along with dress shoes, low to mid heels.  Now for most other non-business related meetings and outings I will do the jeans, top and sneakers.

Danielle
Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: HappyMoni on November 07, 2018, 05:26:09 PM
Jeans I could wear as a guy! Boring! I love dresses, but they  aren't always appropriate. I love leggings or jeggings, or shorts or capris. I've bailed on regular Tee shirts. I am hooked on something more stylish. I like tight pink tops. It is my way to show off the new boobs.  :o
Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: Alice (nym) on November 07, 2018, 05:36:08 PM
Although I've not fully dressed in about 8 years, I like long skirts and shoes but ultimately it was never really about clothes... it was about being physically female. Clothes were just a means of expressing that identity. So jeans and t-shirt or hoody is fine by me... but I do prefer something a bit tighter than men's jeans.
Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: Allison S on November 07, 2018, 07:37:19 PM
I only really wear jeggings lately. I like skirts and dresses though, but I'm a bit lazy. I'll probably start wearing straight leggings more often and try to mix and match sweaters I have. Not sure though. I feel like I'm leaning more towards dresses.

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Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: Jessica_Rose on November 07, 2018, 08:09:44 PM
Quote from: HappyMoni on November 07, 2018, 05:26:09 PM
Jeans I could wear as a guy! Boring! I love dresses, but they  aren't always appropriate. I love leggings or jeggings, or shorts or capris. I've bailed on regular Tee shirts. I am hooked on something more stylish. I like tight pink tops. It is my way to show off the new boobs.  :o

I feel exactly the same! I had to wear pants of some sort for over 50 years, so now I wear dresses, skirts, or leggings as often as I can. Dresses and skirts don't work out very well in the winter, but sometimes I just take the cold and wear one anyway. I also try to be somewhat stylish, I hid for decades and now I want to be seen. Of course I have only been at this for about nine months, so it may eventually fade.
Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: krobinson103 on November 07, 2018, 08:21:05 PM
I rarely wear pants. Skirts, tops, dresses, tights these are my everyday wear.
Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: krobinson103 on November 07, 2018, 08:22:35 PM
Quote from: HappyMoni on November 07, 2018, 05:26:09 PM
Jeans I could wear as a guy! Boring! I love dresses, but they  aren't always appropriate. I love leggings or jeggings, or shorts or capris. I've bailed on regular Tee shirts. I am hooked on something more stylish. I like tight pink tops. It is my way to show off the new boobs.  :o

Totally agree wore jeans and T shirts for 40 years. I'm having fun now.
Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: MissKatie on November 08, 2018, 03:14:27 AM
Some interesting replies :)
I just don't see the point of wearing a nice dress and doing makeup to buy a pint of milk or run an errand, but that's me.
My jeans are very skinny girlie jeans which I love
Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: NatalieRene on November 08, 2018, 08:15:21 AM
Quote from: Jessica_Rose on November 07, 2018, 08:09:44 PM
I feel exactly the same! I had to wear pants of some sort for over 50 years, so now I wear dresses, skirts, or leggings as often as I can. Dresses and skirts don't work out very well in the winter, but sometimes I just take the cold and wear one anyway. I also try to be somewhat stylish, I hid for decades and now I want to be seen. Of course I have only been at this for about nine months, so it may eventually fade.

Sometimes in the winter back in Virginia I would wear the thicker stockings to go with the dress or skirt. I do AV programming and had to in the past go to job sites. So I had to dress professionally as the project manager and I where looked at as the leaders of the project and a T-shirt and jeans would not cute it.

But I do wear pants more often in the winter on very cold days when not at work.
Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: sarah1972 on November 08, 2018, 08:34:48 AM
I would describe my usual daily style as "soccer mom", which fits perfectly into my environment. In the summer this can be a casual skirt while in the winter it is mostly jeans. I do have a few "sweater dresses" I like to wear with opaque tights to keep me warm. In general, I try to mimic what other cis women in my age range wear. this can also simply be some form of leggings and a simple top. No need to go overboard to shuttle your kids around.

I dress professionally seeing clients which is mostly business casual or business professional. Occasionally I do dress up during a normal week. Mostly with a casual dress or skirt.

Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: barbie on November 08, 2018, 09:01:32 AM
Dresses can be far more comfortable than jeans and skirts. I wear dresses as both formal attire and sleeping gown.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8045/29468766431_210596e330_z.jpg)  (https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4855/44868697615_ddf0fc0f17_z.jpg)  (https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/790/41604832241_ae999a385f_z.jpg)  (https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1828/29078536158_7aa0a4a872_z.jpg)

These are all one-piece dresses, although some of them look like two-pieces. Easy to wear and wash, and so comfortable as night gown.

barbie~~
Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: Faith on November 08, 2018, 09:04:23 AM
I try to dress everyday because otherwise I'm just another guy.
Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: Jessica_K on November 08, 2018, 12:24:01 PM
This what I look like now (avatar), dress, tights and ankle boots. I do not take a good photo :(
Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: Jennifer M on November 08, 2018, 01:46:41 PM
Sadly, I have to speak about this in future tense.

If I wore a skirt one day a week to work, it would be about a hundred times more often than my female co-workers do. But I probably wouldn't, at least, not at first.

Bluntly, there's going to be a lot the same, as I am not going to just drop all my T-shirts and sweatshirts. But since I'm wearing women's jeans most of the time anyway, that will help. And I can't wait to wear boots. :D Dresses have always been an issue because of my height, so I don't have many.

I can imagine a time when, May to September, I wear skirts more often than jeans, if only to make up for lost time. :D
Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: TonyaW on November 08, 2018, 02:06:18 PM
Quote from: MissKatie on November 08, 2018, 03:14:27 AM
Some interesting replies :)
I just don't see the point of wearing a nice dress and doing makeup to buy a pint of milk or run an errand, but that's me.
My jeans are very skinny girlie jeans which I love
My electrologist is the only one that sees me without make up. Don't wear skirts all the time but leggings or skinny jeans because
Quote from: Faith on November 08, 2018, 09:04:23 AM
I try to dress everyday because otherwise I'm just another guy.
What she said.

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Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: KathyLauren on November 08, 2018, 02:22:39 PM
Quote from: Jennifer M on November 08, 2018, 01:46:41 PM
If I wore a skirt one day a week to work, it would be about a hundred times more often than my female co-workers do. But I probably wouldn't, at least, not at first.
About two weeks after I came out to them, the concert band that I play in played its annual year-end concert.  The uniform is white top over black bottom.  So I wore a white blouse, a black skirt, and black hose.  I was the only female member in a skirt, and it was noticed and commented on.  In subsequent concerts, I have noticed that other female members now wear skirts.  ;D
Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: Tara P on November 08, 2018, 05:05:36 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on November 08, 2018, 02:22:39 PM
About two weeks after I came out to them, the concert band that I play in played its annual year-end concert.  The uniform is white top over black bottom.  So I wore a white blouse, a black skirt, and black hose.  I was the only female member in a skirt, and it was noticed and commented on.  In subsequent concerts, I have noticed that other female members now wear skirts.  ;D

:laugh:  That's great how you made skirts cool again
Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: AnneK on November 08, 2018, 07:30:56 PM
Quote from: MissKatie on November 08, 2018, 03:14:27 AM

I just don't see the point of wearing a nice dress and doing makeup to buy a pint of milk or run an errand, but that's me.

June Cleaver wouldn't be caught dead going out without her pearls!   ;)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_Cleaver (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_Cleaver)
Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: JudiBlueEyes on November 08, 2018, 08:14:44 PM
As Tonya said "My electrologist is the only one that sees me without make up." 

I do wear jeans but mix in nice slacks as well as skirts and tops.  My sister told me when we were shopping once that I didn't need an excuse to look nice or to wear a dress.  Amen to that! 
Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: BrianaJ on November 09, 2018, 09:14:07 AM
Wow have things changed.  I used to be that person that stood around saying, "come on honey hurry up..."  Now I'm the one that needs hurrying up BIG TIME.  Most days it's some form of a dress for me be it long or shorter with flats or low heels.  However, I do wear jeans or leggins with an appropriate top, or "yoga pants" depending on what I'm doing. 

It's the makeup and hair that take me soooo long.  Ugh  Sometimes "man mode" would be a whole lot easier and faster.   
Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: NatalieRene on November 09, 2018, 09:49:20 AM
I suspicion that getting ready as a guy for me was quick essentially because I didn't care beyond not smelling.

Basic makeup does not take too terribly long. The hair definitely takes longer but that is mostly because I care now.

I suspect a actual guy in a guys body could find a way to fill the time that I never bothered with.
Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: TonyaW on November 09, 2018, 11:20:20 AM
Quote from: JudiBlueEyes on November 08, 2018, 08:14:44 PM
As Tonya said "My electrologist is the only one that sees me without make up." 

I do wear jeans but mix in nice slacks as well as skirts and tops.  My sister told me when we were shopping once that I didn't need an excuse to look nice or to wear a dress.  Amen to that!
I'll clarify that  a bit.  Its the only public place I go without makeup.  I don't go full  on always. The gym is just tinted moisturizer and eyeliner.

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Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: MissKatie on November 10, 2018, 12:51:09 AM
I find it very curious how many of us trans women seem to associate jeans with dressing like a man.
I am a female full stop and a pair of jeans isn't going to change that in my eyes.
I just must be an oddball or something haha :)
Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: krobinson103 on November 10, 2018, 03:10:19 AM
Quote from: MissKatie on November 10, 2018, 12:51:09 AM
I find it very curious how many of us trans women seem to associate jeans with dressing like a man.
I am a female full stop and a pair of jeans isn't going to change that in my eyes.
I just must be an oddball or something haha :)

I lived in jeans for 40 years... had enough of them. Simple as that.
Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: Jessica_Rose on November 10, 2018, 06:50:05 AM
Quote from: krobinson103 on November 10, 2018, 03:10:19 AM
I lived in jeans for 40 years... had enough of them. Simple as that.

Exactly! Although I much prefer dresses and skirts, they just aren't very practical for me when it gets windy or the high temperature for the day is below 40 F (4 Celsius). Sometimes I wear fleece-lined leggings which are really nice and reasonably warm, plus they are thick enough to hide most panty lines. There are still times when jeans are simply the best or simplest choice (almost always with knee boots), but the jeans I wear are stretchy and really snug -- unlike the 'relaxed fit' jeans I wore before transition.

I also feel naked without a bracelet and necklace, and if my ankles are visible I wear an anklet too!

I had to wear dull, boring, functional clothing for over 50 years. Now that I can wear whatever I want, why would I want to go back?
Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: TonyaW on November 10, 2018, 07:43:56 AM
Quote from: MissKatie on November 10, 2018, 12:51:09 AM
I find it very curious how many of us trans women seem to associate jeans with dressing like a man.
I am a female full stop and a pair of jeans isn't going to change that in my eyes.
I just must be an oddball or something haha :)
I'd love to feel that I will be perceived as female no matter what I wear or without makeup.  I'm 6'2" and started transition at age 54.  Probably not happening for me so,  clothes and makeup.

And I do wear women's jeans plenty.  Skinny jeans to be precise.


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Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: Stevi on November 10, 2018, 08:09:19 AM
I love my dresses.  I do have a broad range of attire.  I try to be among the best attired people in any venue without going over the top for the circumstance.  I need all the help help I can get.

With winter setting in and my current trip way up north to New Jersey, I packed mostly jeans and sweaters.  Not the loose and baggy kind, either.  I have some assets and I am flaunting my wealth.  There are a couple of dresses in the luggage, just in case I get the chance.  Never leave home without 'em.

Stevi
Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: Beverly Anne on November 12, 2018, 08:28:51 PM
I just like looking good in whatever I wear and dressing appropriately for the occasion, whether it's work, school, running errands or different social settings. That could be jeans, leggings, shorts, dress, skirt, whatever. I love clothes, shoes, different fashions, and I love to shop. That's  my downfall.  ;) 
Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: JudiBlueEyes on November 12, 2018, 09:11:01 PM
Tonya I agree.  I don't always go full on with makeup.  I rarely wear eyeliner. 

Miss Katie I don't associate jeans with being guys clothing.  My jeans are definitely feminine!  None of that baggy look for me!  Ouch!
Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: Linde on November 12, 2018, 11:09:46 PM
Quote from: MissKatie on November 10, 2018, 12:51:09 AM
I find it very curious how many of us trans women seem to associate jeans with dressing like a man.
I am a female full stop and a pair of jeans isn't going to change that in my eyes.
I just must be an oddball or something haha :)
I am with you.  I have not owned any jeans for many years (I always wore some version of khakis).  I now like jeans leggings and other types of pants (Capris etc.).  If I want to be a little more dressed up, I wear those very wide full length dressy pants with a nice fitting top.  I do not own a single skirt or dress and do not plan to buy one in the near future.  I think a dress would not look nice on my 6' tall frame.
Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: barbie on November 13, 2018, 12:25:34 AM
Quote from: Dietlind on November 12, 2018, 11:09:46 PM
I think a dress would not look nice on my 6' tall frame.

I am not quiet sure, but many people here say dresses match especially well with tall women. I am also 6'.

barbie~~
Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: Linde on November 13, 2018, 08:09:32 AM
Quote from: barbie on November 13, 2018, 12:25:34 AM
I am not quiet sure, but many people here say dresses match especially well with tall women. I am also 6'.

barbie~~
And you look great!
I have to loose some more weight to be able to present myself as you do!  I am not overweight, for a guy, but I am definitely not an elegant looking woman, yet.
I wonder if I ever will be able to walk in those high heeled shoes you wear.  But I bet you learned this when you were way younger!

I plan to loose about 20 lbs, and that would bring me down to about 175 lbs, and than we can see if dresses would be something for me.  I currently really love those wide , long, elegant pants with a nice top on them.  They almost look like a long skirt.  I have several of them and like to wear them if I need to dress up a little.

But I must admit, I probably will never look as great as you do!
Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: KathyLauren on November 13, 2018, 08:48:33 AM
Quote from: MissKatie on November 10, 2018, 12:51:09 AM
I find it very curious how many of us trans women seem to associate jeans with dressing like a man.
I am a female full stop and a pair of jeans isn't going to change that in my eyes.
I just must be an oddball or something haha :)
I prefer skirts, but I live in Canada, where skirts are not practical for half the year.  I will wear anything that I would have been afraid to wear when I was pretending to be a guy.  I never would have dared to wear skinny jeans, so I am perfectly fine with wearing them now.
Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: barbie on November 13, 2018, 06:36:25 PM
Quote from: Dietlind on November 13, 2018, 08:09:32 AM
I plan to loose about 20 lbs, and that would bring me down to about 175 lbs, and than we can see if dresses would be something for me.  I currently really love those wide , long, elegant pants with a nice top on them.  They almost look like a long skirt.  I have several of them and like to wear them if I need to dress up a little.

A weight of 175 lbs or 79 kg is not obese for your 6' height. In summer, I see a lot of big women wearing dresses in meetings held in Europe or N. America.

And the long term goal of 145 lbs is not realistic. My body is like that of athletes, but it is very difficult to main maintain 145 lbs (66 kg). I can maintain 145 lbs only during the fall after exercising hardly in the summer.  In winter, my weight bounces to 150 lbs.

barbie~~
Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: Northern Star Girl on November 13, 2018, 06:51:52 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on November 13, 2018, 08:48:33 AM
I prefer skirts, but I live in Canada, where skirts are not practical for half the year.  I will wear anything that I would have been afraid to wear when I was pretending to be a guy.  I never would have dared to wear skinny jeans, so I am perfectly fine with wearing them now.

@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy:
I have many very cute tops, skirts and dresses that are not practical to wear for well over 6 months a year in the climate that I live in.   

I have made certain that what I do wear for cold weather can be as feminine and pretty as possible... there are styles of clothing that work well and are almost dressy in situations like that.   We don't have to walk around dressed in men's looking clothing at all. 

Women have so many more pretty clothing options, even if they are not dresses and skirts.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts.... we have the same cold weather issues to deal with.
Hugs,
Danielle
Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: NatalieRene on November 13, 2018, 07:54:51 PM
Quote from: sarah1972 on November 08, 2018, 08:34:48 AM
I would describe my usual daily style as "soccer mom", which fits perfectly into my environment. In the summer this can be a casual skirt while in the winter it is mostly jeans. I do have a few "sweater dresses" I like to wear with opaque tights to keep me warm. In general, I try to mimic what other cis women in my age range wear. this can also simply be some form of leggings and a simple top. No need to go overboard to shuttle your kids around.

I dress professionally seeing clients which is mostly business casual or business professional. Occasionally I do dress up during a normal week. Mostly with a casual dress or skirt.

I have the best sweater dress from Victoria Secret. Once I've lost my weight I'm going enjoy taking it out for a spin again.
Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: Linde on November 13, 2018, 11:43:27 PM
Quote from: barbie on November 13, 2018, 06:36:25 PM
A weight of 175 lbs or 79 kg is not obese for your 6' height. In summer, I see a lot of big women wearing dresses in meetings held in Europe or N. America.

And the long term goal of 145 lbs is not realistic. My body is like that of athletes, but it is very difficult to main maintain 145 lbs (66 kg). I can maintain 145 lbs only during the fall after exercising hardly in the summer.  In winter, my weight bounces to 150 lbs.

barbie~~
You are right, 175 might be as low as I can get without starting to look starved.  I am of Viking decent (my first and last name are as Viking as they come), and my people are rather big boned and muscular.
I will never ever be able to look as petite as your are, because my bodies physics don't allow this.  My biggest problem in this area is the size of my rib cage, and my bra has a band width of 44 inches.  I might loose an inch or two when I am down at my target weight, but even for the best case I still would have a band width of 42 inches, which is not really petite.

I wish I could look as elegant as you do, but I have to be realistic and work with the body mother nature gave me, and make the best of it!
Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: Linde on November 13, 2018, 11:44:49 PM
Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on November 13, 2018, 06:51:52 PM
@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy:

I have made certain that what I do wear for cold weather can be as feminine and pretty as possible... there are styles of clothing that work well and are almost dressy in situations like that.   We don't have to walk around dressed in men's looking clothing at all. 

Women have so many more pretty clothing options, even if they are not dresses and skirts.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts.... we have the same cold weather issues to deal with.
Hugs,
Danielle

Title: Re: Trans women and daily dressing
Post by: Linde on November 13, 2018, 11:47:33 PM
Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on November 13, 2018, 06:51:52 PM
@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy:
I have many very cute tops, skirts and dresses that are not practical to wear for well over 6 months a year in the climate that I live in.   

I have made certain that what I do wear for cold weather can be as feminine and pretty as possible... there are styles of clothing that work well and are almost dressy in situations like that.   We don't have to walk around dressed in men's looking clothing at all. 

Women have so many more pretty clothing options, even if they are not dresses and skirts.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts.... we have the same cold weather issues to deal with.
Hugs,
Danielle

I lived in Minnesonwta for almost 40 years, I know what you guys are talking about!  I now live in SW Florida, in the land of enteral summer!  I can wear what I want, as long as it is not to warm.  We have a cold warning for Friday, the temps are going down to 70 F.  I hope nobody will freeze to death round here!