will i be able to have a baby if i have male to female sex change, yes i am serious
Given the current state of medical science and technology, no. In the future perhaps it might advance that far, or perhaps any medical treatment at all might well be a luxury. I think that depends on us.
I agree with Tekla... not in our lifetimes.
But I think in two or three hundred years people will look back and think of these
times like we do about the dark ages... unbelievable.
Doctors will be able to implant cells to regrow organs and yes even form
a proper MTF with all the normal female bits. I know it will happen and I'm just
sad we live in these times.
Amanda
fishy question ???
Is this serious??
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Weeeeeell...
Yes, you can. You can adopt. Or you can have a child with your female partner, using your own sperm cells. Or you can, if you like men, get a kinda expensive thing done that would transform a sperm- or stem-cell into an egg, which could be fertilized by your male partner's sperm, then inserted into a...oh, wossname...a lady who would carry the child and give birth to it for you and your partner.
So you can have a child, and a biological one at that.
But you cannot give birth yourself, sadly.
Not in our life-time.
~Moi
We can transplant Hearts, Livers, Eye parts, Kidneys and now that the science of Stem Cells has developed, even severe burn injuries could be resolved in due course. Can one eventually transplant the entire female reproductive system to a willing patient be she genetic or transgendered? Clearly the doner would either have to be dead or maybe one of you F to M's among us but this raises the ethical dilema of the genetic material contained within those eggs that remain in the ovaries needed for a pregnancy to occur......a fascinating thought and it needs a brave scientist to make this happen.
After all, it was a brave man that gave us the first heart transplant was it not? Considered a right these days but what a hullabaloo at the time ;)......
What would really interest this 48 yr old trans spinster is the possibility of adoption and it would be great if we could here of anyone in our special community that managed this :)
It might be possible, yeah, but I must confess I've no idea how that whole transplantation thing works AT ALL, so I should not go there ^__^
But like Amanda, I'm sure they'll be doing things, a hundred years from now, that we can not even dream of now.
~Moi
Quote from: Moira Midnigh on April 29, 2008, 03:21:14 PM
It might be possible, yeah, but I must confess I've no idea how that whole transplantation thing works AT ALL, so I should not go there ^__^
But like Amanda, I'm sure they'll be doing things, a hundred years from now, that we can not even dream of now.
~Moi
If I believed in reincarnation then I might be reborn a girl and then have no idea what the transgender fuss was about...and babies would flow :angel:
um...sketchy question
I asked some questions when I started down this road that I'm sure a lot
of you thought were off the wall... and I'm still doing that... so I'm willing
to believe that it was a serious question :)
Amanda
SRS/GRS doesn't create internal organs; hence, a post-operative MTF transsexual neither menstruates nor has the capacity to bear children.
tink :icon_chick:
most accurate answer: 'maybe sometime'
R >:D
It's possible. They may not be able to change Chromosomes since that's complicated.
It think the organ and female reproductive idea is something that is possible.
Quote from: Tanya1 on May 01, 2008, 03:43:23 PM
It's possible. They may not be able to change Chromosomes since that's complicated.
It think the organ and female reproductive idea is something that is possible.
Very possible if the do-gooders and the religions back off so that science might be able to make it so.....like I have said previously, Hearts are now a routine organ for transplant and if I am not in error, the Roman Church had major issues with that one........ >:D
Given a lot of the work they are starting to do for veterans of the wars in the Middle East, I wouldn't be surprised if they develop the technology to grow muscles and other body parts to spec. If these body parts are based on cells from the person they are going into, there are fewer problems with transplant rejection. (Technology does tend to advance quickly during war time.)
Once custom muscles become possible, you have the basics of the uterus. I suspect that reproductive science would consider uterus reconstruction for women who have had a hysterectomy to be a valid activity. From there it would be a 'simple' step to doing the same for MtF.
With this, a bit of extra work, and current reproductive technology using donor sperm/eggs, it would be possible to bear a child.
The timing, technologically, would be fifty years or less. Politically, it would likely take longer.
Posted on: May 08, 2008, 11:19:48 AM
Quote from: Kristi on April 28, 2008, 07:51:14 PM
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I would be tempted by the process.
I have had further thoughts on this matter and have come to the same conclusion in that religious and political obstacles may be greater than any forthcoming medical and scientific advances.
Here is one of my less challenging thoughts; What if it were possible to take over unwanted pregnancies rather than abort them and thus lose forever the foetal material with the aim of bringing to term a pregnancy either within the parent womb or by means of a 'temporary transplant of a womb' to the body of the new parent, that could be a transwoman or even a genetic woman that had her uterus remove due to cancer or other reasons. That movie with Schwarzennegar ( I forget which one ) being pregnant was a comedy of sorts but if taken seriouysly to it's potential, I can see some progress here.
It may be too late for me to have a baby but in years to come, transgirls will certainly want to be equal with genetic girls in the baby stakes. :)
Quote from: JENNIFER on May 08, 2008, 02:42:32 PM
I have had further thoughts on this matter and have come to the same conclusion in that religious and political obstacles may be greater than any forthcoming medical and scientific advances.
Here is one of my less challenging thoughts; What if it were possible to take over unwanted pregnancies rather than abort them and thus lose forever the foetal material with the aim of bringing to term a pregnancy either within the parent womb or by means of a 'temporary transplant of a womb' to the body of the new parent, that could be a transwoman or even a genetic woman that had her uterus remove due to cancer or other reasons. That movie with Schwarzennegar ( I forget which one ) being pregnant was a comedy of sorts but if taken seriouysly to it's potential, I can see some progress here.
It may be too late for me to have a baby but in years to come, transgirls will certainly want to be equal with genetic girls in the baby stakes. :)
You might be able to get the support of the anti-abortion community for this, though many may have religious objections.
As an aside, I believe there was some research involving a male baboon and a pregnancy that lasted for four months, out of a potential seven, before it was terminated. (Google: baboon "male pregnancy") Such an abdominal pregnancy occurs naturally in humans and usually fails. It is extremely hazardous to the mother. It showed that a fertlized egg doesn't care where it is as long as it has the needed nutrients. (Having a uterus or equivalent is VERY helpful though.)
Oh, the movie is "Junior".
Quote from: Rowan_Danielle on May 08, 2008, 03:58:24 PM
Quote from: JENNIFER on May 08, 2008, 02:42:32 PM
I have had further thoughts on this matter and have come to the same conclusion in that religious and political obstacles may be greater than any forthcoming medical and scientific advances.
Here is one of my less challenging thoughts; What if it were possible to take over unwanted pregnancies rather than abort them and thus lose forever the foetal material with the aim of bringing to term a pregnancy either within the parent womb or by means of a 'temporary transplant of a womb' to the body of the new parent, that could be a transwoman or even a genetic woman that had her uterus remove due to cancer or other reasons. That movie with Schwarzennegar ( I forget which one ) being pregnant was a comedy of sorts but if taken seriouysly to it's potential, I can see some progress here.
It may be too late for me to have a baby but in years to come, transgirls will certainly want to be equal with genetic girls in the baby stakes. :)
You might be able to get the support of the anti-abortion community for this, though many may have religious objections.
As an aside, I believe there was some research involving a male baboon and a pregnancy that lasted for four months, out of a potential seven, before it was terminated. (Google: baboon "male pregnancy") Such an abdominal pregnancy occurs naturally in humans and usually fails. It is extremely hazardous to the mother. It showed that a fertlized egg doesn't care where it is as long as it has the needed nutrients. (Having a uterus or equivalent is VERY helpful though.)
Oh, the movie is "Junior".
Rowan_Danielle said "Oh, the movie is "Junior"."
Thank you, It was funny though, but you also confirmed the religious barricades that may be erected before us. I guess that until this is tested, we shall never really understand what the problems are .... :(
why are we talking pregnant men here?
are you bunch not women? fine if so... but it confuses me....
Once transsexuals are socially accepted as the gender they are (not that far off tbh) the quite close ability to recreate a uterus for a natal female may be functional, and socially acceptable.
We got to take our stepping stones, nobody will accept a pregnant transwoman before they accept a transwoman.
R >:D
There is this great website (one of my favourite TS-themed)
http://www.secondtype.com/ (http://www.secondtype.com/) which covers some basic things for M2F
about beeing a mother, and also perspectives of transsexual pregnancy which
is in my opinion perfectly possible but I don't think it is anywhere near top in med
research.
Quote from: Rachael on May 09, 2008, 03:28:51 AM
why are we talking pregnant men here?
are you bunch not women? fine if so... but it confuses me....
Once transsexuals are socially accepted as the gender they are (not that far off tbh) the quite close ability to recreate a uterus for a natal female may be functional, and socially acceptable.
We got to take our stepping stones, nobody will accept a pregnant transwoman before they accept a transwoman.
R >:D
I'd say that we are talking about comparative physiology. If a male could support the gestation of a baby to term, then a transwoman could do so too, and possibly with fewer hormonal risks to the baby.
Heck, such a pregnancy would be a lot less controversial than that transman pregnancy that has been in the news lately. A pregnant transwoman, with full HRT, SRS and a functioning uterus would be almost invisible relatively speaking.
Now, how would one 'popularize' the concept of transsexuals so that more people would consider them to be 'normal'?
QuoteNow, how would one 'popularize' the concept of transsexuals so that more people would consider them to be 'normal'?
EDUCATION. It simply comes down to this basic fact that unless the very young when they first gain awareness of themselves as a person, that they be introduced to the idea of a 'mixed' sex, third sex if you like that straddles male and female. This would be a good starting point because the youngster will grow up not dulled to the thought that there are only the two accepted sexes but that there are people that are 'inbetweenies' that shall one day become a true boy or a true girl.
My recent experiences during transition tell me that if youngsters knew of us and that we are not queer, do not look odd for the fun of it but that we are individuals just like they are with the same colour blood and that we eat the same foods and drink water just like they do, then the amount of ill informed comments and blatent abuse may never have happened. Okay, kids are cruel beasts, especially among themselves and a teenager struggling with gender identity is likely to suffer most but is it not obvious to anyone that unless these kids are educated at the very earliest stage of schooling about gender, much in the same manner and intensity as Math, Language, Faith, Reasoning and Comprehension, we shall continue to struggle.
I also believe that we as Transsexuals (pure) must be responsible to ourselves. This comment may excite some of you into a rage and this is an unintended consequence for which I apologise but I have seen many TS/TV folk in my locality that frankly need to be given a good talking to because they are doing themselves no good at all and many of us great harm in the eyes of the general public at large and the media in particular. I only have to think back a couple of years when I was horrified by the media reaction to Pete Burns on Celebrity Big Brother, his attempts at looking girly seriously harmed my own early days of transition because I switched to fulltime female at the time those images were prime time on television.
It must also be said here whilst in context and talking of these matters, the more of us that take the momentous and very scary decision to come forward and go fulltime as females ( males in the case of female to male, an equally tough proposition i am sure ), then it is likely that our presence within our local communities with diminish the shock and amusement factor in due course and we shall eventually be accepted as the humans that we are. By that, may I offer an illustration? I was born in Birmingham England in the late 1950's. It was in an area of the city considered at that time to be exclusive and desirable to live in among the locality. It was also at the time when we began a programme of immigration of workers from our then colonies in the West Indies and the Subcontinent of India. When they arrived, the locals were extremely hostile simply because they were different by dint of skin colour and the smells from their cooking. Today, that area is now exclusively 'ethnic' and the foods are now a staple of English cuisine. Given time and tolerace, and this is where I started, education, we shall become an accepted part of our local commnities. It has already become this way in Thailand, certain parts of India and if I am correct, most of Northern Europe, indeed there are now laws in force in UK that protect transsexual rights.
I started this post with a quote, I cannot quite figure out 'how to popularise' us. I doubt it will happen soon, I fear Gays have problems even after many years of 'acceptance' and legal protection. However, once all of this has been tackled, then maybe the time will come when a transwoman might be offered all the medical assistance to get pregnant as any genetic female currently enjoys. I hope and pray that I am alive when the day comes when one of us gives birth :angel:
Quote from: Rowan_Danielle on May 08, 2008, 03:58:24 PM
As an aside, I believe there was some research involving a male baboon and a pregnancy that lasted for four months, out of a potential seven, before it was terminated. (Google: baboon "male pregnancy") Such an abdominal pregnancy occurs naturally in humans and usually fails. It is extremely hazardous to the mother. It showed that a fertlized egg doesn't care where it is as long as it has the needed nutrients. (Having a uterus or equivalent is VERY helpful though.)
Well, I did my google search and this (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9404EFDA1031F934A15752C1A962958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all) is what I found.
Apparantly such a abdominal pregnancy in males would have been biologically and technically possible for more than twenty years now...
This article contains lots of information on this topic, everybody who is interested in male pragnancy should take a look. ;)
By the way, a couple of months ago I stumbled about a page of a guy who claimed he was the first pregnant man (he seemed to be in the forth month or something) with pictures to prove it, of course. The side seemd rather professional and had a huge section where people all over the world had stated very contrary opinions on this whole male pregnancy deal.
I couldn't really figure out if it was fake or not and now I seem to be unable to find it again. Has anybody here heard about it and knows if it's fake? ???
Posted on: May 11, 2008, 02:40:15 PM
Ha! Found it:
The First Human Male Pregnancy (http://www.malepregnancy.com/)
Still don't know if it's fake or not, but it looks pretty convincing...
FAKE, there is a million dollars for the first guy who could get pregnant. So you would have heard. Big time.
Of course as our feminist sisters once said, "if men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament." I ain't seeing that either.