Apologizing in advance for the indelicate nature of this question.
Going tinkle alongside other women in the ladies' room makes me aware of the difference in sound since unfortunately my SRS has had to be postponed because of no money. I keep noticing that apart from the tinkle itself, there's an additional hissing sound to women's streams. I've been trying to guess what difference in the shape of the stream (or else acoustics) could cause that. I think a lot of the difference has to do with the shorter urethra. This also allows it to come out faster and therefore louder. My tinkle is muted in comparison to other women's. I also have to take twice as long. I suppose it also takes me longer to complete because I can store up more before going.
Maybe I worry too much, but I hope the audible difference doesn't out me. I can't make it hiss at all, I can never make it as loud or as fast as in the neighboring stalls. When I go at the same time as a girlfriend, she always finishes up in half the time and stands near the door waiting for me.
I guess the only conclusion is: It bites being unable to afford SRS, I get more impatient for it every day.
flush the toilet when you're "going'. trust me, no one will notice anything.. ;)
Think about the context of it all. You're concerning yourself with a small noise caused by friction that no one would be able to hear unless one was to focus in on it.
Everyone else is concerned with their own pee. Honestly, freaking yourself out about what your pee sounds like is a bit far. I mean, no chick is gunna be in the bathroom and be all "Huh? What the? THERE IS NO HISS IN THAT STREAM!!! HOLY ->-bleeped-<- ITS A DUDE IN THE LADIES ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM" *blows on a conc shell horn*
It won't out you because pee-shy women have the same trickle, as opposed to hiss sound. You'll just sound pee-shy. I have the opposite problem in men's rooms. Gotta hold back to get the trickle sound.
Don't worry about it, you're fine :)
Dennis
Quote from: Hypatia on May 07, 2008, 12:50:11 AM
Maybe I worry too much,
Indeed, you do. Go in, do your business and leave - like a normal person of any gender would. ::)
Quote from: Claire de Lune on May 07, 2008, 02:33:34 AM
Quote from: Hypatia on May 07, 2008, 12:50:11 AM
Maybe I worry too much,
Indeed, you do. Go in, do your business and leave - like a normal person of any gender would. ::)
word
I have a friend who's a CD and decided she passed well enough to use the Womens rest room.
All was going well until she stood up and pee'd in the toilet, kind of gave the game away.
::)
Quote from: Gracie FAISE on May 07, 2008, 01:41:46 AM
THERE IS NO HISS IN THAT STREAM!!! HOLY ->-bleeped-<- ITS A DUDE IN THE LADIES ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM"
Jesus, that's the funniest thing I've heard all week. As a T.A. for an Intro to Anthropology class this Spring, they let me teach a class of my choosing (of course, I chose the gender class). I was absolutely convinced that some young parent would bring their child to class with them, who, upon seeing me, would promptly open their little mouth to scream "That's a man!!!"
Hypatia: the only thing that I could recommend is to maybe buy yourself a
Sound Princess and do like Japanese girls do: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilets_in_Japan#The_Sound_Princess (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilets_in_Japan#The_Sound_Princess)
Lia
Quote from: genovais on May 07, 2008, 05:58:31 AM
Jesus, that's the funniest thing I've heard all week. As a T.A. for an Intro to Anthropology class this Spring, they let me teach a class of my choosing (of course, I chose the gender class). I was absolutely convinced that some young parent would bring their child to class with them, who, upon seeing me, would promptly open their little mouth to scream "That's a man!!!"
Lia
Looking at your avatar, i'd doubt that
Quote from: Veerle on May 07, 2008, 06:30:30 AM
Quote from: genovais on May 07, 2008, 05:58:31 AM
Jesus, that's the funniest thing I've heard all week. As a T.A. for an Intro to Anthropology class this Spring, they let me teach a class of my choosing (of course, I chose the gender class). I was absolutely convinced that some young parent would bring their child to class with them, who, upon seeing me, would promptly open their little mouth to scream "That's a man!!!"
Lia
Looking at your avatar, i'd doubt that
I agree. She is totally gorgeous!
Kristi
Aww, shucks. Thanks, you guys.
Lia
Quote from: genovais on May 07, 2008, 07:35:01 AM
Aww, shucks. Thanks, you guys.
Lia
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Not at all ladies, your all beautiful ;)
Quote from: genovais on May 07, 2008, 05:58:31 AM
Quote from: Gracie FAISE on May 07, 2008, 01:41:46 AM
THERE IS NO HISS IN THAT STREAM!!! HOLY ->-bleeped-<- ITS A DUDE IN THE LADIES ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM"
Jesus, that's the funniest thing I've heard all week. As a T.A. for an Intro to Anthropology class this Spring, they let me teach a class of my choosing (of course, I chose the gender class). I was absolutely convinced that some young parent would bring their child to class with them, who, upon seeing me, would promptly open their little mouth to scream "That's a man!!!"
Hypatia: the only thing that I could recommend is to maybe buy yourself a Sound Princess and do like Japanese girls do: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilets_in_Japan#The_Sound_Princess (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilets_in_Japan#The_Sound_Princess)
Lia
" However, some women believe that the Otohime sounds artificial and prefer to use a continuous flushing of the toilet instead of the recorded flush of the Otohime"
Japanese women are insane
Hypatia, the above are all correct. Missing something to worry about in your diet? Hugs. Go and pee and relax!
Lia, you do look beautiful, congratulations!
Nichole
Well this story should make you laugh...
Beware of 'The Tinkler'
http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/personal/05/06/o.tinkler/index.html
Quote from: Claire de Lune on May 07, 2008, 02:33:34 AM
Quote from: Hypatia on May 07, 2008, 12:50:11 AM
Maybe I worry too much,
Indeed, you do. Go in, do your business and leave - like a normal person of any gender would. ::)
Or go in, do your business, and socialize.
Quote from: Gracie FAISE on May 07, 2008, 10:53:04 AM
Quote from: genovais on May 07, 2008, 05:58:31 AM
Quote from: Gracie FAISE on May 07, 2008, 01:41:46 AM
THERE IS NO HISS IN THAT STREAM!!! HOLY ->-bleeped-<- ITS A DUDE IN THE LADIES ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM"
Jesus, that's the funniest thing I've heard all week. As a T.A. for an Intro to Anthropology class this Spring, they let me teach a class of my choosing (of course, I chose the gender class). I was absolutely convinced that some young parent would bring their child to class with them, who, upon seeing me, would promptly open their little mouth to scream "That's a man!!!"
Hypatia: the only thing that I could recommend is to maybe buy yourself a Sound Princess and do like Japanese girls do: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilets_in_Japan#The_Sound_Princess (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilets_in_Japan#The_Sound_Princess)
Lia
" However, some women believe that the Otohime sounds artificial and prefer to use a continuous flushing of the toilet instead of the recorded flush of the Otohime"
Japanese women are insane
noooooooo, Japanese women are HOT!!! ;D
Quote from: Buffy on May 07, 2008, 04:10:21 AM
I have a friend who's a CD and decided she passed well enough to use the Womens rest room.
All was going well until she stood up and pee'd in the toilet, kind of gave the game away.
::)
Geez, didn't she read the manual?? It's #1, don't stand up to pee in the ladies restroom. ;) :D
Z
Quote from: Laura91 on May 07, 2008, 12:53:50 PM
Quote from: Gracie FAISE on May 07, 2008, 10:53:04 AM
Quote from: genovais on May 07, 2008, 05:58:31 AM
Quote from: Gracie FAISE on May 07, 2008, 01:41:46 AM
THERE IS NO HISS IN THAT STREAM!!! HOLY ->-bleeped-<- ITS A DUDE IN THE LADIES ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM"
Jesus, that's the funniest thing I've heard all week. As a T.A. for an Intro to Anthropology class this Spring, they let me teach a class of my choosing (of course, I chose the gender class). I was absolutely convinced that some young parent would bring their child to class with them, who, upon seeing me, would promptly open their little mouth to scream "That's a man!!!"
Hypatia: the only thing that I could recommend is to maybe buy yourself a Sound Princess and do like Japanese girls do: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilets_in_Japan#The_Sound_Princess (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilets_in_Japan#The_Sound_Princess)
Lia
" However, some women believe that the Otohime sounds artificial and prefer to use a continuous flushing of the toilet instead of the recorded flush of the Otohime"
Japanese women are insane
noooooooo, Japanese women are HOT!!! ;D
So are a lot of girls from LA, but they more often than not turn out to be bat-->-bleeped-<- crazy too, lol
Wow, all this from a concern about peeing. I second that whole idea that Japanese women are crazy over there.
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Quote from: Zythyra on May 07, 2008, 12:59:20 PM
Quote from: Buffy on May 07, 2008, 04:10:21 AM
I have a friend who's a CD and decided she passed well enough to use the Womens rest room.
All was going well until she stood up and pee'd in the toilet, kind of gave the game away.
::)
Geez, didn't she read the manual?? It's #1, don't stand up to pee in the ladies restroom. ;) :D
It's difficult for me to imagine any pre-op lady could be so clueless as to make that blunder. But the novel
Born Confused by Tanuja Desai Hidier has one glamorous trans character who is outed when seen urinating in the ladies' room with feet pointed toward the pot instead of away from it. Maybe that was just a CD or a DQ, or maybe the novelist didn't actually understand trans women.
Posted on: May 07, 2008, 07:24:59 PM
Quote from: Lori on May 07, 2008, 12:14:15 PMBeware of 'The Tinkler'
We all know the explanation for such foulness, don't we? A commentator to that article explained it:
QuoteThey refuse to let their tender tushies touch any part of the toilet seat--or even the paper gasket. Their solution is to hover (or surf) several inches above the seat, and go from this elevated position. They can't "aim" from this height, and they're wiggling all over the stall because perching in the air with your knees bent at a 90 degree angle makes your quads shake, so they inevitably wind up spraying pee everywhere.
I haven't got that foible. My legs are in better shape than that and I can hold steady as a rock in any position. I've taken a Bikram yoga class from a teacher who called himself "Quadzilla."
I don't think you should worry too much about this, Hypatia. One thing I have noticed though (here I go again.. ;D) is that older women (like forty and over :P) do not always produce that hissing sound you talk about.
tink :icon_chick:
Its amazing the little things we notice....and they are things that I really don't think gg's even acknowledge...I mean, I never really payed attention to the way men pee'd when I was in the mens room...I think I think to much....anyone else?
Quote from: Dennis on May 07, 2008, 02:07:49 AM
It won't out you because pee-shy women have the same trickle, as opposed to hiss sound. You'll just sound pee-shy. I have the opposite problem in men's rooms. Gotta hold back to get the trickle sound.
Don't worry about it, you're fine :)
Dennis
So, perhaps the trans guys need some sort of a muffler or silencer >:D
I found my own 'hiss' comes and goes. I'm there to relieve my bladder, not acoustically express female solidarity... ;D
Karen
Quote from: Karen on May 07, 2008, 10:43:40 PM
I'm there to relieve my bladder, not acoustically express female solidarity... ;D
Karen
That was waay too funny, Karen!
-Sandy
There's a hissing sound?
*makes note to listen for said 'hissing sound' next time he pisses*
Yeah, I definitely don't think someone's going to notice if you're not making enough noise. No one pays attention to that sort of thing.
As she comes from the stall:
"How do you pee so quietly?"
"I don't know, do you pee really loud?"
"I hiss like steam engine letting off the brakes"
And that conversation could go on for a while.
Quote from: Kassandra on May 07, 2008, 10:49:36 PM
Quote from: Karen on May 07, 2008, 10:43:40 PM
I'm there to relieve my bladder, not acoustically express female solidarity... ;D
Karen
That was waay too funny, Karen!
-Sandy
LMAO, Karen!!!!!
I knew a woman who was so "shy" that whenever she went for a pee she also turned on both taps in the bathroom sink!
I believe that the feet pointing towards the potty are hazardous.
I have hovered above some toilets in some airports but I also allowed my lower back to rest against the wall.
Wow, what a topic!
Wing Walker
Quads Challenged But Resourceful :laugh:
Quote from: Gracie FAISE on May 07, 2008, 01:41:46 AM
I mean, no chick is gunna be in the bathroom and be all "Huh? What the? THERE IS NO HISS IN THAT STREAM!!! HOLY ->-bleeped-<- ITS A DUDE IN THE LADIES ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM" *blows on a conc shell horn*
.... ;D ....
I'm post-op and still don't get that hiss, maybe just slightly when I'm really bursting !
What gets me is that a woman can be in and out of the next cubicle while I'm still peeing, I still seem to take nearly twice as long.
And I still get a bit paranoid that I don't sound right (the acoustics of restrooms seems to amplifiy sound somewhat rotten) .... :( ....
So Claire's hilarious quote kinda re-assures me and puts my worry in perspective !
And anyways no matter what I sound like tinkling, when I emerge from the cubicle there's no doubt about my gender .... ;) ....
Laura x
Quote from: Laura Eva B on May 08, 2008, 06:03:51 AMWhat gets me is that a woman can be in and out of the next cubicle while I'm still peeing, I still seem to take nearly twice as long.
Shucks and here I was hoping SRS would take care of that. Maybe we just have narrow-bore urethras.
Quote
And anyways no matter what I sound like tinkling, when I emerge from the cubicle there's no doubt about my gender .... ;) ....
True, I'm not actually worried about it, I'd be astonished if anyone actually outed me based on a difference in sound. It's totally the least of my worries, LOL. I just had been noticing this and I'm hyper-sensitive to any differences, always seeking to mitigate them.
Acoustic Solidarity Rocks!
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Quote from: Laura Eva B on May 08, 2008, 06:03:51 AM
What gets me is that a woman can be in and out of the next cubicle while I'm still peeing, I still seem to take nearly twice as long.
I think it's just a body difference. I'm taller and bigger boned than most women and I take longer too. I suspect that my bladder is bigger than the little anorexic size 8 nymph in the stall next to me. :laugh:
The things we women talk about!!!
-Sandy
Quote from: Kassandra on May 08, 2008, 08:42:27 AM
I suspect that my bladder is bigger than the little anorexic size 8 nymph in the stall next to me. :laugh:
-Sandy
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Quote from: Zythyra on May 07, 2008, 12:59:20 PM
Quote from: Buffy on May 07, 2008, 04:10:21 AM
I have a friend who's a CD and decided she passed well enough to use the Womens rest room.
All was going well until she stood up and pee'd in the toilet, kind of gave the game away.
::)
Geez, didn't she read the manual?? It's #1, don't stand up to pee in the ladies restroom. ;) :D
Z
This makes me glad that my habits will prevent this from happening. I've been a sitter for a while, at least at home where there aren't any urinals and where there is carpeting in the bathrooms. So as long as the women's rooms don't have functional urinals, I should be all right when I get that far along.
If you should be worried about ANYTHING in the bathroom, it is putting down the paper sheild and sitting down in time before that damn sensor thinks you are done and pre-maturely flushes and sucks away your shield.
>:( I will never forget that week at college. They had to fix the sensors cuz they were reacting far too quickly, and I can't hover cuz i can relax to pee and still stand like that @ 3@ i have no idea how my girl friends do it.
Quote from: Kristi on May 08, 2008, 09:05:01 AM
Quote from: Kassandra on May 08, 2008, 08:42:27 AM
I suspect that my bladder is bigger than the little anorexic size 8 nymph in the stall next to me. :laugh:
-Sandy
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Oh, yes! You definitely came to mind as I wrote that! I still remember the time we went shopping at Marshall Fields!
-Sandy(I wish my thighs were size 8!)
Hey us size 4-6 feel kind of offended, and I've got one hell of blader too (I'm 6 foot tall which helps).
Yeah, some woman come and go so fast from the restrooms that I wonder if they pee siderway while taking their pants down ;D
Its just incredible, they're in and out in 10 seconds and I hear a niagara in between :D
Yesterday at work I was in the midst of a long, quiet, leisurely urination that must have lasted longer than The Flight of the Bumblebee by Rimsky-Korsakov. Another lady came in, and I heard what sounded like a glass of water being poured all at once. For one second. Then she was gone.
I feel incredibly reassured to learn that I'm not the only one who's noticed this.
Quote from: Kassandra on May 08, 2008, 05:09:45 PM
Oh, yes! You definitely came to mind as I wrote that! I still remember the time we went shopping at Marshall Fields!
-Sandy(I wish my thighs were size 8!)
Actually, I'm a 4 or 6, Sandy, and it was Bloomingdales. But oh well.
I've been practicing making a hissing sound that I will use while urinating. A closed "shhhh" does nicely. :-*
Kristi