Mara has been deleted and banned for being abusive to staff in performance of their duties.
I thought it seemed roomier in here this evening.....
Ahh.... the pissed off millions were cued after all :)
:'(
It's still live.
Mara should take care. But, even though it's not an excuse, she might be going though a rough patch.
*hugs* Sweety...
Quote from: Eloise on May 15, 2008, 02:56:58 AM
Mara should take care. But, even though it's not an excuse, she might be going though a rough patch.
*hugs* Sweety...
ya, anyone could see that Mara is and was deeply troubled. i don't mean this as a slight to her; i also have had many times in my life when i too was deeply troubled...
it seems that the girls who are the most troubled (and possibly, need this site the most) are the ones who get banned.
maybe it is right and proper that she should be banned, but it is still very sad, i know she's hurting, and i miss her.
wonder if we could have a banned pen, (in Just For Us) just for these especially troubled girls, which includes only members who are especially patient, and who request membership there, as with Peer Groups...
-Ell
I don't know what Mara did to the mods... I suspect it must have been bad...
I saw one of her last posts and it was not that bad....
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,34941.msg233974.html#msg233974 (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,34941.msg233974.html#msg233974)
and I DO SO feel for her... she needs us yes...
BUT you do not have the right to bite the people that love and care for you
and are here to help NO matter how troubled you are.
Ask yourself.... would you put up with an abusive wife or husband? I think not.
It would be great to have a "jail" so to speak... let them vent, let them be apart somehow.
Amanda
Quote from: AlwaysAmanda on May 15, 2008, 01:25:33 PM
It would be great to have a "jail" so to speak... let them vent, let them be apart somehow.
Amanda
Yes, like a penalty box. And we can throw pop corn on them....and ice cubes....
This went beyond ignoring. This went beyond jailing or noposting.
QuoteARE YOU KIDDING, your gonna deduct me for this piece of writing...
How can you justify that? I think you should deduct [removed] for calling others [removed], and in case you did not notice she also decided to insinuate that [removed]...
She openly starts a thread with personal attacks against innocent people, Im the only one to stand up against it, and you come along and say oh this MARA IS BAD..
Whatever. [profanity] YOU then.
b[profanity]h
Please take me off this website... [profanity] YOU ALL.
I removed parts which could identify others not involved in this situation and for profanity. This was sent to a moderator who smited one of her messages in the course of her duties. It was totally unacceptable.
If you have a problem with someone's post use the report this post to a moderator link which is at the bottom of every message, if you don't you will get edited or smited. If you have a problem an action taken by one of the site moderator's, email me. I always investigate, I may not always agree, but I never ignore a user's complaints no matter how liked or disliked someone may feel they are on the site.
This is HARD stuff to deal with no doubt... but no matter how hard it gets... NO one should be allowed to bite the people
that are here to help them.
I hope she finds peace.
Amanda
well... i don't know if it's possible, but i was just wondering- maybe the person being 'banned' just have their posting privileges taken away except for like one board, um, like a time out zone? don't know what it should be called.
but tho... that's just an idea. i don't know if it's possible or anything. Lol.
What are you guys thoughts?
p.s. ouch for that message. O.O
*hugs* for Mara, still.
Banning someone for a period of time or deleting an account is not something that is taken lightly. While it might be unpleasant, sometimes it happens and the reason is always well explained to the person involved.
Just my thoughts on the subject.
Sarah L.
Quote from: Eloise on May 15, 2008, 02:18:20 PM
well... i don't know if it's possible, but i was just wondering- maybe the person being 'banned' just have their posting privileges taken away
That happens often. Members are given warnings and chances to clean up their act, placed on 'no posts, no pms' for a time. Banning is a last resort measure except in cases where they get really nasty and unacceptable. Everyone here is going through a lot and that is not taken lightly but Susan and staff can't allow abusive members the chance to harm others.
Tragically they are people that in the end need it most. So it goes.
Quote from: Susan on May 15, 2008, 01:38:05 PM
This went beyond ignoring. This went beyond jailing or noposting.
QuoteARE YOU KIDDING, your gonna deduct me for this piece of writing...
How can you justify that? I think you should deduct [removed] for calling others [removed], and in case you did not notice she also decided to insinuate that [removed]...
She openly starts a thread with personal attacks against innocent people, Im the only one to stand up against it, and you come along and say oh this MARA IS BAD..
Whatever. [profanity] YOU then.
b[profanity]h
Please take me off this website... [profanity] YOU ALL.
I removed parts which could identify others not involved in this situation and for profanity. This was sent to a moderator who smited one of her messages in the course of her duties. It was totally unacceptable.
If you have a problem with someone's post use the report this post to a moderator link which is at the bottom of every message, if you don't you will get edited or smited. If you have a problem an action taken by one of the site moderator's, email me. I always investigate, I may not always agree, but I never ignore a user's complaints no matter how liked or disliked someone may feel they are on the site.
oh, well, i can't go any farther than making the suggestion i've already made, as i do like this site very much as it is, and i don't know that such proposed changes would actually improve anything, or make things worse.
-Ellie
Quote from: ell on May 15, 2008, 02:40:38 PM
as i do like this site very much as it is,
This site is the way it is because of Susan's leadership. Trust her, she is worth it.
Quote from: Nero on May 15, 2008, 02:28:42 PM
Quote from: Eloise on May 15, 2008, 02:18:20 PM
well... i don't know if it's possible, but i was just wondering- maybe the person being 'banned' just have their posting privileges taken away
That happens often. Members are given warnings and chances to clean up their act, placed on 'no posts, no pms' for a time. Banning is a last resort measure except in cases where they get really nasty and unacceptable. Everyone here is going through a lot and that is not taken lightly but Susan and staff can't allow abusive members the chance to harm others.
I should know...I've been banned I don't know how many times lol.
I don't consider bans a perm thing and regularly wipe the list. Bans can frequently be removed by apologizing. But a person has to convince me they mean it. I am a firm believer in giving another chance.
Quote from: Kimberly on May 15, 2008, 03:03:12 PMThis site is the way it is because of Susan's leadership. Trust her, she is worth it.
I... i guess i just have an tendency to help. it sometimes seems a bit wierd- i know it can be. *blush*
but ok Susan, i trust you. *huggles*
(*^.^*)
I think what some of you are missing here is what Mara said to the Mod
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Please take me off this website... [profanity] YOU ALL.
It seems to me that she was obliged. I agree that she is troubled and probably could use some support worse than those who don't act-out that way. I find that fact to be very sad.
But, at this point that didn't seem to be her wish -- to stay and write about what was truly under her skin. Instead she very nastily lashed out at someone else. I feel for whomever got that message. No one likes that kind of abuse, even when we recognize that the sender is disturbed, probably by something other than ourselves.
I'm sorry for Mara, but if she is willing to smack around a mod, I'd hate to see what she might send to one of you if she was upset enough.
Nichole
[profanity] YOU ALL
God, If I had dollar bill for every time....
But sometimes people just get dumb all over. I see it all the time. Right, good choice argue with the cop, the one guy/girl here who clearly has a gun. Great thinking.
They didn't argue with me. I just banned them. That's the issue they took this kind of attitude with one of my volunteer staff members. People who are here to do a thankless job for no pay and I am not gonna tolerate anyone being abusive towards them.
Quote from: tekla on May 16, 2008, 02:51:37 AM
Right, good choice argue with the cop, the one guy/girl here who clearly has a gun.
Mods have guns?
Quote from: ell on May 16, 2008, 08:06:22 PM
Mods have guns?
I do. (Beverly leaves laughing maniacally)
Seriously folks, I've known Susan for almost 10 years and I've never known her to do anything like this without careful consideration. In one case years ago, she gave a person so many chances it wasn't funny and she finally had no choice but to ban them.
Beverly
Quote from: ell on May 16, 2008, 08:06:22 PM
Mods have guns?
All I got was a purple water pistol... probably just as well, I can't hurt myself too bad with it ;) ;D
Z
Does anyone have Mara's email address? I don't mind having a chat with her.
Cindy
*snort*
laugh.
YEah I talked to her the other day and she mentioned this.
Not really too suprised.
I laughed and told her that she had been bratty hadn't she?
It was funny.
Susan is protective of her Mods.
As she should be.
But we are not afraid to speak our mind either.
Sometimes that has consequences.
Always it does actually, it's just a matter of which consequences one is willing to live with.
She seemed perfectly fine with speaking her mind.
I like that about her.
She may apologize later, and she may mean it, but I don't think she will feel too shook up about being banned from a website.
the things is, Mara is independant. I like her like that.
Those of us who are her friends know that.
She wants time to herself sometimes and she doesn't like feeling like she is attacked.
Which I'm sure is probably what she felt like for saying that.
people are human beings after all.
We have human feelings.
I got negged once for calling someone a bigot, when they fit the definition perfectly.
I even posted the definition.
I negged the negger out of anger and got two back at me!
People piss people off.
Some of the users here can be downright rude and disrespectful of others sometimes.
I've gotten so tired of it myself that I've blocked several people from my view list, just so I can see the posts in peace.
I think the lesson learned here is a simple one:
Respect others and above all, respect Susan's place and space.
This is her space that she is providing for us to use and respect one another.
tearing each other apart does no good at all.
It's one of the reason's why I'm not here much anymore;
I got tired of the infighting and bickering.
It gets kinda annoying when people want to challenge you for being the way you are.
You'd rather just leave and be with people who respect you unconditionaly.
It's much less stress.
But anyway,
Mara is doing well.
I talked to her the other day and saw her in person too.
She is doing fine and well and she will probably be back if she wants to be.
I hope you are all well as well.
She knew the consequences of what she was doing when she said that.
She took them willingly
She will be back if she wants.
Anyway, i love you all and have a great day!
See ya!
-Sara
Hey Sara!
It's good to hear from you. Also good to hear Mara's doing okay. I've wondered where you'd gone. I figured it was something like that. I'll say, I've seen much worse on other forums. Hey, that's the Internet. Don't let the neggers get you down.
Cheers!
~Alyssa
Quote from: Sarah on May 28, 2008, 05:57:08 PM
It gets kinda annoying when people want to challenge you for being the way you are.
You'd rather just leave and be with people who respect you unconditionaly.
It's much less stress.
Meh...who cares about what other people think? I just let it go in one ear and out the other since most people suck anyway. ;D
Ha HA!
good to hear from you both!
*grins*
-Sara
Hi Alyssa,
QuoteI've seen much worse on other forums. Hey, that's the Internet. Don't let the neggers get you down
I so agree, actually I have noticed only but a negligible amount of nasty posts posted her, and compared to other groups I have been at now I see many of them have gone quiet. So I do believe that we have a diligent staff here that I do pray will keep this site open and running.
Cindy