Hi,
I don't see why a crossdresser can't just go full time if they desire to.
Is anyone here full time? If not, Is there anyone here who would gladly go full time if it were perfectly acceptable (as it should be) in society?
Also, if you would love to be full time, or even, just most of the time, what is stopping you?
I don't crossdress, I'm just curious. I believe that people should just live as they're true selves. Maybe someday no one will have to think twice about it.
This is addressed to non TS people because I understand your motivations. I'm trying to educate myself concerning CDs
I did. I had the opportunity to go full time, thinking that it would be my real life test before I gave any money to the medical/therapy community (sorry Nichole). I did it for almost - 10 months - a year. If not 'acceptable' in SF, it was at least, no big deal to anyone I knew or met. I decided on another path, on that included that, but did not exclude other paths either.
But I know a few full time CDs I guess, they have no intention or want, or need to take the drugs or have the operations - for whatever reasons. And they seem happy in the life they have. What else is the standard?
only happiness is the standard. I'd like to see everyone happy. That would make my standard.
Though going fulltime is a nice thought, I doubt I ever will. Maybe someday though. I dont really have the guts for that, Id need someone to give me professional makeup or something and Id only be willing to go fulltime if I was -completely- passable.
I would be a full time CD. I wear skirts and camis in the house and my wife doesn't mind.
I'm not transitioning or taking hormones. I'm just one happy and content cross dresser.
Gennee
:)
Quote from: Rebis on June 13, 2008, 11:10:09 PM
Hi,
I don't see why a crossdresser can't just go full time if they desire to.
I do in 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
Of course, I avoid skirts and heels at my work place.
I have not tried any hormone.
Some of my outdoor photos.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbongrae57.net%2Fbbs%2Fdata%2Fpic%2F20071111_064ss.jpg&hash=7c693560e1bba250a86635349d018aa62e0dc01b)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F125.247.198.61%2Fbbs%2Fupimg%2Ffishery%2F20070918_002s.jpg&hash=7f9b082a0d8ce16debf6b49b4b715225b3b800c4)
The last one was in Helsinkin, Finland.
Barbie~~
Some of us cant go all the way with srs because of famaily jobs and other reasons. You dont need srs to be a true woman. I am on hrt but probably will not ever have srs even though it would be a dream come true.
I just love being a girl
Ronda
Currently it would be impossible for me, as I'm still too shy to show anybody my crossdressing. and honestly I don't think I'd want to ever be "full" time. there are many people inside of me, some are very masculine and some are very feminine. for me, being a girl full time would be just as repressing of myself as not crossdressing would be, although my personalities tend to stray more to the female side than the male, the male is still there.
I think my dream, is to walk on the edge of a sword, on my right being female and my left being male, so that just the slightest push to either side can change the way I am viewed by others and myself.
the slogan under the sites banner being so closed to the way I thought of this to myself is actually the reason I decided to make an account here.
Sorry, I'm trans, but I think I can still relate. I do cross dress full time, it is hard because people keep calling me a lesbian and stuff...
I think people don't cross dress full time if they're just cross dressers because their identity doesn't depend on it and I'm sure they hate the rude comments as much as transsexuals do.
Posted on: July 25, 2008, 05:39:09 PM
Quote from: barbie on June 26, 2008, 03:57:00 AMI have not tried any hormone.
Wow, Barbie. That's amazing! ;D Your beauty's all natural.
Thanks. There's some good answers here.
i'm still living with my parents and can only crossdress when my mom and dad aren't home
but if it were for me
i would love going full-time, but society is getting worst and worst
i always say live and let live
i can be friends with anywone and i don't care if they are black,gay,transexual,crossdresser(as myself),chinese,budist
the bottom line is everyone is the same inside
Posted on: September 05, 2008, 05:36:21 AM
also clothes aren't fare
women can were all there clothes and if they wear men's clothes they gets a little mocked but not even close to what a guy in women's clothes get
see this:
women can wear:dress,skirt,tops,bra,bikini,trikini,swimsuit,high heels,makeup,pants,shorts,short shorts,mini skirts,some guys clothes,and more
men can wear:t-shirts*,pants*,shorts*,sweatshirts*,shoes,boxers, and more(but not as much as girls).
*= women can also wear
so you see, the clothes sistem isn't fare and i think that's why there are much more mtf than ftm
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I almost do, I suppose. Not like beautiful Barbie up there, but since I usually work at home, I wear (or don't wear) whatever I want most of the day. I've always been a truly lazy crossdresser at best, so it's pretty much just casual wear with no makeup or jewelry for the most part. Lately, I wear my hair in a casual chin-length flip I set in curlers in a normally feminine style. I'm most comfortable in jean and a t-shirt or sweatshirt no matter what. I don't usually wear a bra to the supermarket or hardware store, but I'm sure my overall look is androgenous at best.
I love the idea of going full time, or even most of the time. But the reality is a different matter.
I live alone, and I've acquired a decent female wardrobe, so I could dress up whenever I'm home. But when I've tried it, I find it doesn't work for me. Why not?
First, I'm scared that someone will stop by unexpectedly, or I'll trip and break a leg, or whatever. So it's hard for me to relax and enjoy myself. If I do it too often, or if I stay dressed for more than an hour or so, I feel like I'm tempting fate.
Second, I keep my female wardrobe hidden away, just in case some visitor accidentally looks in my closet. So it takes some work to get the stuff out and hide it away again.
Third, when I'm relaxing at home, I'd like to relax. What do most women wear when they're relaxing? Jeans and tee shirts. What's the fun in that?
And I'm not really passable -- at least not without a lot of makeup help and a full-body wax job! -- so I don't try to go out in public. And I'm too scared to go to CD-friendly clubs.
As a result, going full-time, or even full-time at home, is a wonderful fantasy, but for me, it's going to stay a fantasy.
Id love to, but dont really have the guts; so many people know me around town.
If I moved somewhere far away where people were accepting and maybe I knew a few other "girls" I might be comfortable with it.
At this point, I don't have any real desire to go full-time. But, that doesn't mean I'll change my mind in the future.
But as an androgyne, presenting as male or female full-time would seem limiting to me. Ideally, I would present full-time as indeterminite. That, to me, is the most attractive body form: when the person's biological sex can't be determined.
I wish we could more readily do as we please.
Quote from: Rebis on September 12, 2008, 07:42:07 PM
I wish we could more readily do as we please.
so very true rebis my dear so very true ::) ::) as it would make things a whole lot more easyer to deal with .but sigh we must push on :)
btw hi rebis ;D
Hi Debbie :)
Quote from: Rebis on June 13, 2008, 11:10:09 PM
I don't see why a crossdresser can't just go full time if they desire to.
...
This is addressed to non TS people because I understand your motivations. I'm trying to educate myself concerning CDs
That last phrase has haunted me for a week.
If a CD goes "full time," doesn't that mean they present themselves as a woman full time?
And doesn't that mean that person is, by definition, a (non-op) TS??
Anyone care to comment?
Please, it's an honest question! I'm not trying to be rude or snide! I'm just trying to figure this out. You see, the idea of "going full time" appeals to me a lot. On the other hand, I don't consider myself a TS. So logically, that doesn't make sense!
Hence my confusion. Unless, of course, I'm a TS who's "in denial." :o
Quote from: MarySue on September 14, 2008, 12:43:03 PM
Quote from: Rebis on June 13, 2008, 11:10:09 PM
I don't see why a crossdresser can't just go full time if they desire to.
...
This is addressed to non TS people because I understand your motivations. I'm trying to educate myself concerning CDs
That last phrase has haunted me for a week.
If a CD goes "full time," doesn't that mean they present themselves as a woman full time?
And doesn't that mean that person is, by definition, a (non-op) TS??
Anyone care to comment?
Please, it's an honest question! I'm not trying to be rude or snide! I'm just trying to figure this out. You see, the idea of "going full time" appeals to me a lot. On the other hand, I don't consider myself a TS. So logically, that doesn't make sense!
Hence my confusion. Unless, of course, I'm a TS who's "in denial." :o
If a CD is a male and "goes full time," then that would indeed (to me) suggest that they are presenting themself as a woman full time.
I think the differenence between a CD and a TS (from the point of view of this CD) is that a CD doesn't have the desire to actually make the physical change. So, I guess that would indeed make a full-time CD a non-op TS. At least, from my point of view.
Others?
Quote from: MarySue on September 14, 2008, 12:43:03 PM
Quote from: Rebis on June 13, 2008, 11:10:09 PM
I don't see why a crossdresser can't just go full time if they desire to.
...
This is addressed to non TS people because I understand your motivations. I'm trying to educate myself concerning CDs
That last phrase has haunted me for a week.
If a CD goes "full time," doesn't that mean they present themselves as a woman full time?
And doesn't that mean that person is, by definition, a (non-op) TS??
Anyone care to comment?
Please, it's an honest question! I'm not trying to be rude or snide! I'm just trying to figure this out. You see, the idea of "going full time" appeals to me a lot. On the other hand, I don't consider myself a TS. So logically, that doesn't make sense!
Hence my confusion. Unless, of course, I'm a TS who's "in denial." :o
I believe there are people who like to crossdress
some of the time and others who like to crossdress
all of the time.
There is a difference in a crossdresser and a transsexual, in that, the crossdresser
may not have serious issues with their body, and, despite
presenting as a person of the opposite sex, they still
identify as the gender of their birth sex.
There is also a group of people who are transgendered, but not crossdressers, in that they will live the life of their true gender but without using HRT or surgery. These people do not identify as the gender represented by their birth/body sex and, I believe they are NOT considered crossdressers.
Don't no one kill me if my explanation is weak. :'(
Now, down to the point of my initial question;
I know there are people who crossdress
some of the time. I was just wondering if there are any people who would crossdress much more, if not all the time, if there were no bigotries to stop them from doing it.
I know there are trangendered people who may live full time, but I was wondering if there are people who are willing to crossdress full time even though they do not identify as the gender which they present to others.
I hope I made sense.
Transsexuality is about reconciling a person's inner identity with their lifestyle. Crossdressing may be connected to other things going on with a person, but basically, it's just about dressing. You can wear cowboy boots without being a latent bronco buster. I'm not aiming to change my sex because I like to wear a skirt sometimes. It's fun to feel and look feminine, but I AM masculine and I'm cool with that.
There are a lot of ways to be.
-Lyric
If i could go full time, i would love it but i live at home and can only do it when parents are out :-\
You should ask your parents to get a place of their own. :laugh:
(I'm kidding)
I,m definitely a cd but could easily live full-time lady IF the enviroment would make it far more easier. I'm very shy about these issues, so my feminine side is a absolute secret among my social life.
I think that the distinction between TS and the other trans people is, whether your gender identity contradiction is so hard that it can only be cured by living totally in the gender you regard your own. So it's not wonder that many cd:s are dreaming of the full-time girly days.
Quote from: MarySue on September 14, 2008, 12:43:03 PM
Quote from: Rebis on June 13, 2008, 11:10:09 PM
I don't see why a crossdresser can't just go full time if they desire to.
...
This is addressed to non TS people because I understand your motivations. I'm trying to educate myself concerning CDs
That last phrase has haunted me for a week.
If a CD goes "full time," doesn't that mean they present themselves as a woman full time?
And doesn't that mean that person is, by definition, a (non-op) TS??
Anyone care to comment?
Please, it's an honest question! I'm not trying to be rude or snide! I'm just trying to figure this out. You see, the idea of "going full time" appeals to me a lot. On the other hand, I don't consider myself a TS. So logically, that doesn't make sense!
Hence my confusion. Unless, of course, I'm a TS who's "in denial." :o
CD/TS isn't about quantity it's about motivation. Speaking only in terms of genetic males to keep pronouns simple. A CD is a male that dresses like a woman. It doesn't matter if he dresses once a year or full time he is still a man in womans clothes because he identifies as a man. A TS is a woman born with a male body. She only crossdresses when she wears men's clothes. When she's wearing women's clothes she's not crossdressing. Full time refers to how often she presents to the world the gender she feels all the time. CD's are men that want to dress like women. TS are women born with the body of a man. The difference depends on which gender the person identifies as not frequency.
Quote from: Nikki
A CD is a male that dresses like a woman. It doesn't matter if he dresses once a year or full time he is still a man in womans clothes because he identifies as a man.
This is one possible take on it.
I am biologically male, but I identify as an androgyne. So when I cross-dress, it's not because I identify at that time as being a man. Likewise, I'm not idendifying as a woman. My identity still remains androgyne.
I think the boundaries are blurry and identities are not black and white.
It should all come down to self identification. If you need a distinction my personal thought is that a crossdresser is someone that thinks of themselves as a man or woman wearing the clothing of the oposite sex to their gender identity - regardless of whether full time or not.
I'm an androgyne too but I never consider myself to be crossdressed (unless going to a gathering of furies). Though maybe if I wore another androgynes clothes I would be crossdressed? :-\
I think that part of the problem with defining identities is due to the limiation of language.
Quote from: Shades O'Grey on October 12, 2008, 05:50:59 PM
I think that part of the problem with defining identities is due to the limiation of language.
IMO the problem is people are smeared all over the map. Any time you try to create a box you include people that don't really fit and exclude people that do. Perfect definitions are impossible but we need some sort of definitions so we can make sense of our world.
I think one of our myths is that expression closely follows identity. But I don't think this is true. I've meet someone that was a man in a womans body but they did not suffer any dysphoria, had no desire to present as a male or act like one. They did not feel the need. Cross dressers seem to me to be the reverse of this in that they retain an identity that resembles their physical body but have the desire to present as something else. If the need and desire is strong enough they might become transexuals too.
Have you heard the term transgenderist? I've always assumed this is what was meant - a crossdresser that has gone full time?
Quote from: MarySue on September 14, 2008, 12:43:03 PM
Quote from: Rebis on June 13, 2008, 11:10:09 PM
I don't see why a crossdresser can't just go full time if they desire to.
...
This is addressed to non TS people because I understand your motivations. I'm trying to educate myself concerning CDs
That last phrase has haunted me for a week.
If a CD goes "full time," doesn't that mean they present themselves as a woman full time?
And doesn't that mean that person is, by definition, a (non-op) TS??
Anyone care to comment?
Please, it's an honest question! I'm not trying to be rude or snide! I'm just trying to figure this out. You see, the idea of "going full time" appeals to me a lot. On the other hand, I don't consider myself a TS. So logically, that doesn't make sense!
Hence my confusion. Unless, of course, I'm a TS who's "in denial." :o
Close only difference is that a CD does not feel in any way that there gender identity is female.
IN the case of M to F or a man who wears womans clothing
A non-op TS is a woman who chooses not to have srs
a Full time CD is a man who chooses to present female but has a male gender identity.
The two almost overlap, but they are not interchangable.
Quote from: Shades O'Grey on October 12, 2008, 05:50:59 PM
I think that part of the problem with defining identities is due to the limiation of language.
I'm not trying to define an identity, though. I just want to know if any red blooded CDs would CD full time if it weren't a social issue.
Being a Full time CD in a way means more or less to me, that they dont nessecarily Crossdress Fulltime, but that they arent afraid to do it when they feel the need in public, work, picking there kids up, but that they revert whenever they feel the need too.
I believe that a member on this site named Barbie considers themselves to be a fulltime CD, in that they wear what they want, when they want, when they feel the need too.
Quote from: Rebis on October 13, 2008, 06:49:28 PM
Quote from: Shades O'Grey on October 12, 2008, 05:50:59 PM
I think that part of the problem with defining identities is due to the limiation of language.
I'm not trying to define an identity, though. I just want to know if any red blooded CDs would CD full time if it weren't a social issue.
Being an androgyne, I would not cross dress full time. But, that's because I'd find it limiting.
Quote from: Jordan on October 14, 2008, 04:03:53 AM
Being a Full time CD in a way means more or less to me, that they dont nessecarily Crossdress Fulltime, but that they arent afraid to do it when they feel the need in public, work, picking there kids up, but that they revert whenever they feel the need too.
that makes a lot of sense. Maybe full time isn't literally every minute of every day, but whenever the desire is there despite the circumstances such as buying bread or ice skating.
Lets just leave CD as a behavior and as a description only of people who exhibit that behavior (though not the reason). People do it for all different reasons, and so defining one group by it is inherently myopic.
In the same way I would then suggest that we define TS as anyone who wants to be another gender regardless of the reason (I'd prefer to redefine TG, but that is, as I understand it, already the umbrella term, so I'm working within the established infrastructure.) TS just has too much absolutism in it for me.
Now here I add that we can reach a better expression of these qualities using a spectrum as opposed to a binary system. So someone could be a 7/10 CD, or a 4/10 TS.
The tricky part is co-morbidity. Can someone be a 10/10 for both?
Quote from: Truth Seeker on November 26, 2008, 10:09:05 AM
sometimes maybe crossdressers do it purely for erotic reasons?
yeah, Rebis.
er, i mean, you now have 5 minutes for a rebuttal.
-ell
Quote from: Rebis on June 13, 2008, 11:10:09 PM
I don't see why a crossdresser can't just go full time if they desire to.
Is anyone here full time? If not, Is there anyone here who would gladly go full time if it were perfectly acceptable (as it should be) in society?
I just want to note that I know some people in this category. They use the label "Committed Crossdresser."
Quote from: Truth Seeker on November 26, 2008, 11:43:33 AM
Quote from: ell on November 26, 2008, 11:32:51 AM
Quote from: Truth Seeker on November 26, 2008, 10:09:05 AM
sometimes maybe crossdressers do it purely for erotic reasons?
yeah, Rebis.
er, i mean, you now have 5 minutes for a rebuttal.
-ell
I don't understand. ???
You lost me too, Ell. ???
I'm sure some do it for eroticism, but I'm just interested in seeing people really get out there and be themselves despite how they present.
I like
committed crossdresser. CCD without the bibles
Quote from: Truth Seeker on November 26, 2008, 11:43:33 AM
Quote from: ell on November 26, 2008, 11:32:51 AM
Quote from: Truth Seeker on November 26, 2008, 10:09:05 AM
sometimes maybe crossdressers do it purely for erotic reasons?
yeah, Rebis.
er, i mean, you now have 5 minutes for a rebuttal.
-ell
I don't understand. ???
sorry. i was just bugging.
Rebis requires x amount of bugging per 5-week period
Quote from: Lisbeth on November 26, 2008, 11:37:12 AM
Quote from: Rebis on June 13, 2008, 11:10:09 PM
I don't see why a crossdresser can't just go full time if they desire to.
Is anyone here full time? If not, Is there anyone here who would gladly go full time if it were perfectly acceptable (as it should be) in society?
I just want to note that I know some people in this category. They use the label "Committed Crossdresser."
Committed as in committed to a funny farm? >:-)
Sorry, but I couldn't resist. It's late.
I would love to go full time if it were perfectly acceptable. I would Do this for a while. But what I really want is to go through post-op. That is my life long dream.
Quote from: chrysalis on November 26, 2008, 01:42:49 AM
Lets just leave CD as a behavior and as a description only of people who exhibit that behavior (though not the reason). People do it for all different reasons, and so defining one group by it is inherently myopic.
In the same way I would then suggest that we define TS as anyone who wants to be another gender regardless of the reason (I'd prefer to redefine TG, but that is, as I understand it, already the umbrella term, so I'm working within the established infrastructure.) TS just has too much absolutism in it for me.
Now here I add that we can reach a better expression of these qualities using a spectrum as opposed to a binary system. So someone could be a 7/10 CD, or a 4/10 TS.
The tricky part is co-morbidity. Can someone be a 10/10 for both?
Being a very mathmatics orientated individual, I have found many ways to transfer my identity into numbers and labels.
But as you said it would just be myopic.
Either way I am still sitting stuck with a inheiritenly insane medical condition that is forcing me to reconcile my inner being while destroying my outside world, hurting those that love me most, all so I can be happy with my body and mind or else absolutley nothing would happen to me physically, but emotionally I would feel like the 40 possible years I might have left on this what will be even more depressing after transition planet would be slipping away and leaving me gaping for any grasp on where my life went.
The most pressing issue on any human beings minds, is its own well being, because it is the only issue that never goes away.
It would to be fantastic to try it out for a week then if that works out a month, then if that works a year, then........ Sounds like fun to me. Genevieve