Thank you, Tinkerbell, for reaffirming my belief that I'm really a guy. If I ever spent more than 10 seconds on which of my 2 pairs of shoes to wear (athletic or not), I think I'd go insane. That's one thing I'll never understand... what's so darned important about shoes?
Rafe
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I'm with you Rafe and why you would need more than a couple of pairs and maybe some boots is beyond me.
Dennis
workboots, trackshoes, sandals (which get maybe 2 months of use the whole year... welcome to western canada) and dress shoes which are used for church, weddings and funerals. i've tried and tried to figure out why it is such a big deal for women... and i still can't. this should be a whole topic in itself, why does a woman need a pair of shoes for everyday of the month and usually only ever wear half of them!?
yet another mystery of the female mind
tino
Quote from: Rafe on July 15, 2006, 11:13:20 AM
Thank you, Tinkerbell, for reaffirming my belief that I'm really a guy. If I ever spent more than 10 seconds on which of my 2 pairs of shoes to wear (athletic or not), I think I'd go insane. That's one thing I'll never understand... what's so darned important about shoes?
Rafe
Hi Rafe:
Two pairs of shoes, athletic or not??? ....boys will be boys...as they say... :-*
My dear, men will never understand the complexity of women...I mean...we're different species after all ;)
Our shoes come in so many names, shapes, and forms: flats, fringe, high-heel,
low-heel, ankle straps, mules, open-toed, lace-up, pointy toe, espadrilles, hook and loop, zip-on, t-straps, mocassins, slip-on, pull-on, monk strap, sandals, loafers, slouch, jellies, huarache, platforms, spikes, pumps, round-toe, and steel toe. Of course, there are many more that I forgot to mention...but anyway...just wanted to let you know................
tinkerbell :icon_chick:
I know 7 of those types of shoes that you mentioned Auntie Robin, and 4 of them only because my step daughter has been educating me while rolling her eyes and says "jeez, get with the program" (jokingly of course). I tell ya, living with women you learn all kinds of things but will never learn how they really think or understand some of the things that they do.
Quote from: cindianna_jones on July 16, 2006, 03:27:25 AM
You know wolfie, I can't figure it out either. I've got one purse that needs to be replaced. It's black and goes everywhere. But I have this thing for shoes. Go figure.
Cindi
I have noticed that many women that I know have dozens of pairs of shoes and one, maybe 2 purses tops. Why is this? Don't purses have match your clothing like shoes do? Is that why you need so many shoes... wow, overload! Maybe you ladies can shed some light on this.
Tino
Meh, 4 shoes.
1 slippers -- normal wear
1 tennis shoe -- fast and easy
1 hiking boot -- preferred.
1 steel toed work boot -- sometimes needed, always nice, and almost never handy, lol.
So yea, technically I have three shoes to choose from. 10sec tops to choose :P
I just want one purse though, a silly denim hobo bag ... just slightly customized. *looks innocent*
But meh.
I have no idea why you would want tons of shoes... *wink* my weakness is jewelry, something of which you simply cannot have too much of... But shoes? Meh, I don't even like half of the styles ;)
Okay, so truthfully, I probably have 5 pairs of shoes... but that's more because I haven't thrown the old ones out than that I hoard shoes. I have 2 pairs of skate shoes, 2 pairs of Nike running shoes, and a pair of nice leather shoes for job interviews, etc. But apart from those rare job interviews, I just wear the newer pair of Nikes. They're gray & black, and match pretty much everything I wear (which, granted, is just T-shirts and blue jeans). That way I don't have to worry about anything but what shirt I'm going to wear (and that's usually a choice of black or other). And purses? Don't even get me started.
Rafe
Posted at: July 16, 2006, 11:17:12 AM
...although I can understand the jewelry thing... I have way too many earrings, but with 7 ear piercings, I kind of need them all.
Guy's shoes are way boring - I mean, look at the display space given to mens shoes versus women's in the stores and catalogs.
Women's shoes are so much more varied and interesting and actually flatter the foot instead of hiding it. Of course that means you should take care of those puppies with soap and moisturizer and pumice, etc, now and again (if ya don't and you're M2F bad feet can clock ya faster than a bass voice, imo, even if they're size 7½).
I have more women's shoes than my wife (she's envious that I can wear heels and she can't) but I still have way too few!
helen
A girl can never have enough shoes. I have two closets full of them, and yes I wear each pair. It would be nice to be able to afford to have a pair for each outfit, but i think Gill would draw the line. But heck a girls just gotta look good.
Steph
Boring work shoes... Where do you work in a church :D
Steph
Haha. Actually, I like shoes. I don't go crazy and I pretty much only wear skate/tennis shoes. No sandals. I mainly have lots of different colors of chuck taylors. Truthfully, though, I only ever wear the black ones. Lately I've been wearing my DC's - they make me look taller.
LoL, I really dont know, and I even dont get it totaly.... but then again Im a punk so style and fashion in the normal sence go out the door right there.
For guy mode, I have my Ripped chucks, my non ripped chucks, my steel toe work boots and my dress shoes...... (Note the boots and shoes are black, and the chucks have red lining and red and black laces)
For myself, Ive got a pair of sencable 2 inch heels, a pair of ankle boots with a 3 inch heel, a pair of FMB's with 3 inch heels (I hardly wear any of those LoL) My chick chucks, my custom vans, my extra tall combat boots with 2 inch heel, and my goth boots..... <Accept for the chucks and vans there all black>
Maby its that I allready know what I want when I go shopping and want to get out of the store as fast as possable. People in stores annoy me to no end.... get in get what you need and get out.....
Same goes for clothes, purses and so on....
I think its a habit born of antisocial natures and never having the money to get other than what I came for. *shrugs* We'll see what happens in the future if and when I actualy have some disposable income LoL
Well, for me I want to have enough shoes so I can wear all the different outfits I have, but at the same time, I'm not as obsessed with shoes as some girls here. Honestly though, I've only worn 2 different pairs of shoes since going fulltime. My sandals and some heels.
Melissa
Hey everyone,
Quote from: Rafe
That's one thing I'll never understand... what's so darned important about shoes?
Rafe
Blasphomer!!!!Just kidding.
Shoes are like a mood ring. I pick out shoes not only to fit my outfit, but also my mood. I simply love shoes. I am like Carrie in Sex and the City, I could never have too many shoes.
Love always,
Elizabeth
Let's see there are my office dress shoes that I wear on days I do not think I will be crawling under desks or through ceilings.
Then about three or four pairs of sneakers.
Chunky dress shoes (low leather shoes mounted on what is basically boot tread)
Strappy heels, one pair, black
Flats, one pair, brown
Then my leather boots that I will wear to work but I usually wear them for leather/fetish events.
There would be more but I have been rather broke lately.
Quote from: CindiMy boss can be a real bitch though.
Tell her if she doesn't give you a raise you'll quite :D
I'm so bad for shoes though. I have shoes in the garage for wearing in the garden, and I have 4 pairs of shoes that I keep at work for emergencies. I also keep my ridding boots in the truck along with a spare pair of shoes for just in case :) Yep I'm the poster child for shoe-aholics anonymous :D.
Steph
thank you rafe i have workboots and a pair of sneakers which ever is closer to my bed when i wake up is what goes on my feet and for clothing whatever smells clean goes on i dont see why it needs to take 5hrs for women to get ready to leave the house.
Quote from: jaded on July 17, 2006, 02:32:23 PM
and for clothing whatever smells clean goes on i dont see why it needs to take 5hrs for women to get ready to leave the house.
first Jaded (ewww....smells clean?? ??) Thanks for reminding me of why I transistioned!!! :icon_blah: :icon_blink:
At first I thought this was a joke thread Whats important about shoes....is like asking whats the big deal about air!? LOL
Why does it take 5hrs for a woman to get ready.........
Simple babe, Perfection takes time baby boy!
Chynna
LMAO
Quote from: Chynna on July 17, 2006, 02:43:30 PM
first Jaded (ewww....smells clean?? ??) Thanks for reminding me of why I transistioned!!! :icon_blah: :icon_blink:
how else are you supposed to be able to tell if it's clean or not? you can wear it as many times as you can until you can tell that it's starting to smell funky. am i right?
tino
Yes, but what if you took a deep whiff and it smelled really bad? Ewwwwwww.
Melissa
DUDE......You are such a MAN!!
from a womans point of view you wear it once then wash it!
If you even think of smelling it..you don't wear it!
And generally,
The ones in the dresser or folded are clean,....
The ones in the basket...are the dirty ones!!!LMAO
I see Spike as her hands full!!
Chynna
you don't huff the clothes, you just kind of stand within proximity to where someone is usually standing next to you and smell it. if you can smell it from there then it's time to get a new shirt. the clothes on the floor (amy kicks them into my corner in the morning!) are the ones that are good to wear, the ones in the dresser and the ones that i almost never wear. then when it's absolutely necessary to do laundry, they get done, stay in the laundry basket when they're clean and eventually get taken out of that one by one.
you can also tell if it's time to wash it if it doesn't move at all... it it's hard as a rock, it's time to go!
wow... you're right chynna... poor spike!! lol, if it smells really bad i'm sure she'd tell me, it never really gets to that point... necessarily...
tino
Quote from: wolfie on July 17, 2006, 03:00:45 PM
you don't huff the clothes, you just kind of stand within proximity to where someone is usually standing next to you and smell it. if you can smell it from there then it's time to get a new shirt. the clothes on the floor (amy kicks them into my corner in the morning!) are the ones that are good to wear, the ones in the dresser and the ones that i almost never wear. then when it's absolutely necessary to do laundry, they get done, stay in the laundry basket when they're clean and eventually get taken out of that one by one.
you can also tell if it's time to wash it if it doesn't move at all... it it's hard as a rock, it's time to go!
wow... you're right chynna... poor spike!! lol, if it smells really bad i'm sure she'd tell me, it never really gets to that point... necessarily...
tino
Actually one way you can tell if your shoes need to be dumped is when they start to walk all by them selves. :)
Steph
At least you don't determine it needs to be washed by throwing it at the wall and seeing if it sticks. :D
Melissa
Actually my cats start hissing and spitting at them :)
Steph
Welcome to:
TRANSGENDER LAUNDRY CHAT....
And I thought it was just me. I wear my jeans as long as I can before washing them; being unemployed and living in an apartment, it saves me a lot of money on laundromat washers. Shirts I change pretty much every day, though it depends on how long I wore them for. Shoes don't get thrown out when they walk by themselves; instead, they get upped in value. Vintage is in, remember? 8)
Even when I had money and free laundry facilities, though, I did the whole smell-and-see bit; I can remember, in high school, finding a pair of jeans I loved and just wearing them all week... I'd wash them when they smelled bad enough. And don't forget, Tino... even if they do smell bad, there's always Febreze!
Yeah, now I just sound like an unwashed miscreant. Oh, well.
Rafe
I hope you guys dont buy that I put up with teen boy yuckiness. What Tino will kill me for telling you all is ... he is a bit of a metrosexual (that's right metrosexual). He is good looking, dresses very nice, his hair is done, he is tidy, he always smells great & his clothes look ironed all the time! METROSEXUAL! I love my hot man grrr.
My daughter & I tease him about being metrosexual all the time. We say things like "hurry up and get ready you take longer in front of the mirror". lol Yeah right, my daughter is a very femmy 13 year old girly-girl & I have witnessed 'the gang' spend hours & hours prepping themselves (for what? a teen dance). I on the other hand can ready slightly fasted than my sexy T ;D
love ya honey, look how cute I am :icon_chuckel:
I'M NOT METRO!!!
It's ok Tino, we're very opened minded people and won't judge you.
Melissa
ha ha ha, thanks melissa! I have apparently been denying it forever (according to amy and megan). just because I love my hair! lol.
Tino
You FTM guys are so fun to mess with. :)
Melissa
Quote from: tinkerbell on July 17, 2006, 05:11:41 PM
How many kitties do you have Steph? I have four...Angel, Munchkin, Bebe (the one on the photo), and Daisy. there's a sad story behind every one of them...but I won't post them here, as they are very long. Perhaps we should open a thread about pets, current or former ones... ;)
tinkerbell :icon_chick:
There's an Idea - go for it
Steph
Quote from: wolfie on July 17, 2006, 05:24:31 PM
ha ha ha, thanks melissa! I have apparently been denying it forever (according to amy and megan). just because I love my hair! lol.
Tino
Uh, Tino...what hair? :D
Nero
Quote from: wolfie on July 17, 2006, 05:18:53 PM
I'M NOT METRO!!!
Well the discription of Metrosexual is:
Quote from: Our WikiMetrosexual is a term coined in 1994 (along with the noun, metrosexuality) by British journalist Mark Simpson, who used it to refer to an urban male of any sexual orientation who has a strong aesthetic sense and spends a great deal of time and money on his appearance and lifestyle.
He is the fashion - conscious target audience of men's magazines:
The promotion of metrosexuality was left to the men's style press, magazines such as The Face, Gentlemen's Quarterly, Esquire, Arena and FHM, the new media which took off in the 1980s and is still growing (GQ gains 10,000 new readers every month). They filled their magazines with images of narcissistic young men sporting fashionable clothes and accessories. And they persuaded other young men to study them with a mixture of envy and desire.
You know what they say... If the shoe fits :)
Steph
tino its ok i dress well AND CLEAN as well i dont want you all to think i stink. but you got to admit its ridicules how long it takes a woman to get ready and spike be nice
nero i agree with you on what hair?
I must admit, I'm obsessed with my hair as well, and I only have about 1/2 an inch on the sides and an inch or so on top. I have more hair product than I care to mention, but I don't spend forever on my hair... I pretty much spike it, slick it back, or comb it forward. But it is a big thing for me.
And I have quite a few different cologne sprays, as well. Just because you wear the same jeans for a couple days, it doesn't mean you have to smell bad.
Rafe
QuoteUh, Tino...what hair?
Woah woah guys, there's
JUST enough hair to gel now! Can't really style it persay, but the gel stays in!!! Ha ha, it's worth the effort.
And yeah... I guess we can be fun to bug... Amy's just laughing away as she's reading all of the replys. I blame this all on Pam and Amy, I needed to stop wearing boys clothes and they helped me out... now I like what they suggested and picked out for me way too much... it's out of control man! :o
QuoteAnd I have quite a few different cologne sprays, as well. Just because you wear the same jeans for a couple days, it doesn't mean you have to smell bad.
Well said Rafe. They don't have to be ripped, gross smelling, dirty jeans to be wearing them everyday (or every other day). Jeans don't tend to smell... except for my work jeans... ok, dirty DIRTY secret (some of the guys out there may find this gross to)...
I'm a landscaper and have a favorite pair of jeans that I wear for work. As a "luck"/ "superstition" thing I hadn't washed them for close to a year (until Amy finally told me to). They were just going to get dirty anyways!!!!!
Tino
Yeah, you are right I'll play nice, after all I love Tino all sexy like that. ~Spike
Quote from: wolfie on July 18, 2006, 09:40:12 AM
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Well said Rafe. They don't have to be ripped, gross smelling, dirty jeans to be wearing them everyday (or every other day). Jeans don't tend to smell... except for my work jeans... ok, dirty DIRTY secret (some of the guys out there may find this gross to)...
I'm a landscaper and have a favorite pair of jeans that I wear for work. As a "luck"/ "superstition" thing I hadn't washed them for close to a year (until Amy finally told me to). They were just going to get dirty anyways!!!!!
Tino
Oh yuck, how could you stand yourself, I think you are lucky that Amy is there to look after you :)
Steph
OK Tino you got me beat with those jeans. I bet if you weren't feeling well enough to go to work one day, they'd go in for you. And yeah jeans can get smelly. It's usually the dog that makes mine smelly though. Nothing like the smell of wet dog emanating from your clothes.
I'm not metro by any stretch, but I have to wear suits for work. Usually I'll dry clean them when I spill something on them, which turns out to be often enough. Shirts, I can wear for a couple of days if I wear an undershirt. In the summer, it's usually only one day per wear though unless I've been in air conditioning all day. Sniff test works for me :)
Dennis
Dennis
Quote from: wolfie on July 18, 2006, 09:40:12 AM
Woah woah guys, there's JUST enough hair to gel now! Can't really style it persay, but the gel stays in!!! Ha ha, it's worth the effort.
And yeah... I guess we can be fun to bug... Amy's just laughing away as she's reading all of the replys. I blame this all on Pam and Amy, I needed to stop wearing boys clothes and they helped me out... now I like what they suggested and picked out for me way too much... it's out of control man! :o
Well said Rafe. They don't have to be ripped, gross smelling, dirty jeans to be wearing them everyday (or every other day). Jeans don't tend to smell... except for my work jeans... ok, dirty DIRTY secret (some of the guys out there may find this gross to)...
I'm a landscaper and have a favorite pair of jeans that I wear for work. As a "luck"/ "superstition" thing I hadn't washed them for close to a year (until Amy finally told me to). They were just going to get dirty anyways!!!!!
Tino
Oh dear, how positively vile! All of you guys! A shirt is to be worn
once, just once, and then it must be washed. Jeans, maybe you could squeeze 2 or 3 days out of. Not that I actually do any laundry, mind you, but I see that it gets done.
Couldn't ignore this post, couldn't have anyone thinking that
I smell bad - I am
CLEAN and wear cologne and perfumed body lotion.
Someone should rename this thread - "Personal Grooming - or Lack thereof". Ghastly habits you guys have! But I have been cracking up reading the various opinions on proper laundering. :D
Like Tino and Rafe, I'm quite particular about my hair as well. Not as short as yours, Tino. It's just long enough, that I can take a curling iron to the ends, and I do use styling products - only I mix with water. I can't abide that "sticky feeling".
Nero
I have this thing about ALWAYS wearing an undershirt whether it's a beater or a white T shirt. Unless I'm wearing a white shirt then I'm not wearing one underneath, other than that, it's always on. I have quite a few of these and so I think that maybe that's why I don't need to wash my shirts as often. And I figure as long as you're wearing boxers or boxerbriefs your pants are good to go for awhile.
QuoteIt's just long enough, that I can take a curling iron to the ends
you curl your hair nero?
tino
Apparently so. And I don't think we're all filthy... we just have different priorities. I do change my shirt pretty much every day, but I'll go with Tino here... I wear boxer briefs (at least until I go back to the prison that is my folks' house) every day, and I think changing those every day suffices... I can keep wearing the jeans. I do my laundry, just not as often as maybe I should, and that's for merely financial reasons.
Gotta echo Tino, though: You curl your hair?
8) Rafe
Not metro, but I do take pride in my appearance.
Yes, I curl my hair. I won't leave the house until I've done that.
I wear an undershirt if it's a button-up shirt, but not if it's a polo or T shirt. Especially in this weather.
Nero
Posted at: July 18, 2006, 05:28:37 PM
I hope you guys know I was teasing. I don't care whether you're dirty or not.
Nero
It's all good, Nero... and we don't take offense at your curly hair LOL. To each his (or her) own. I'd straighten mine if I could, but since I can't, I keep it as short as possible.
horrible dirty Rafe
Quote from: Nero on July 18, 2006, 04:30:50 PM
Not metro, but I do take pride in my appearance.
Just seeing if you would have the same reaction Tino did. That was too funny. :)
Melissa
i dont want you all to think im not clean either i shower twice daily:) but i dont spend an hour on my hair i still have long hair (duh im a drummer)so i just pull it back untill im at a show them i use it to head bang:)
and i own a billion pair of jeans so they are basically disposable no need to wash
man, I wish I had the money to own a million pair of jeans.
Rafe
Quote from: Rafe on July 18, 2006, 09:59:22 PM
man, I wish I had the money to own a million pair of jeans.
Rafe
...and they would probably all look the same, since they would be men's jeans. :D
Melissa
Quote from: Melissa on July 18, 2006, 10:50:38 PM
...and they would probably all look the same, since they would be men's jeans. :D
Melissa
Jeans look different from other pairs of jeans?
Dennis
Quote from: Dennis on July 19, 2006, 09:03:49 AM
Jeans look different from other pairs of jeans?
Dennis
Typical male comment..LOL
and Nero I got 4 different curling irons when your ready!!!!!!LOL
Chynna
Quote from: cindianna_jones on July 19, 2006, 01:34:46 PM
It's clear to me that men do not have HAPPY FEET!
Cindi
it would also seem that they are fashion challenged :)
Steph
We have comfy feet, unlike the feet in those medieval torture devices known as women's shoes.
Dennis
Quote from: Dennis on July 19, 2006, 06:16:17 PM
We have comfy feet, unlike the feet in those medieval torture devices known as women's shoes.
Dennis
I like earth shoes (http://www.earthshoe.com/). They're very comfortable. Plus, we can wear men's shoes if we want. :icon_eyebrow: You guys, however, are limited in your choices. ;D
:icon_walk:
Melissa
Ummmmmm, Dennis.... if you have extreemly high arches.... womens shoes... heels in paticular can be EXTREEMLY comfortable as compaired to flats... *bleh* cant wait till I come out at work... no more ugly dress shoes :)
Happy feet, happy trees... I think we're getting into PBS now, and I never thought my little inquiry would spur such an uprising! Grow, little topic! Be free! Oh, and my feet are quite happy in my Nikes... and I just got rid of 4 pair of shoes, bringing the grand total down to 3 (I found a couple more pairs of old ones). I feel special 8)
Okay, not metrosexual, but I must admit I know differences between jeans... dark or light, right? All I know is I go for the ones with big pockets, because I abhor carrying a bag (man purse, anyone?), and they have to be baggy. So I suppose you're right, Melissa; if I had a million pairs of jeans, they probably would look a lot alike. It'd still be worth it, though. However, despite my lack of variety in shoes and jeans, I realized today, while going through my stuff to pack for my move, that I must have over 100 T-shirts. How's that for sad? And I complained about shoes... LOL
Rafe