hey, for you guys who are on T, have you experienced any growth as far as physical height? I'm 5' 2" >< so any growth up would be to my benefit. I wish I was 5' 8" but I have a feeling that growing six inches is downright impossible no matter what
I'm 5' 9". If we could trade height, that would rock because I don't like being super tall.
lol I'm not sure. I'm 5'6 but I'm not going to hold my breath. Maybe it depends on when you get T? If you're still in your growing stage it might be possible, but if not I wouldn't count on it.
I'm not getting my hopes up about it, but I reallyyyy hope so. I'm 5'2.5" right now.
Short answer- No.
Long answer- Yes, if you start early enough. By early enough, I mean no more than a few years after you start your period. Why? Because female growth plates close shortly thereafter.
So unless you're 13 and starting testosterone, no.
Quote from: Mister on August 19, 2008, 10:52:43 PM
Short answer- No.
Long answer- Yes, if you start early enough. By early enough, I mean no more than a few years after you start your period. Why? Because female growth plates close shortly thereafter.
So unless you're 13 and starting testosterone, no.
Its around 18 when the plates fuse right? At least that's what I've heard, not sure how accurate the information is, but that seems like the general age people stop growing in height.
I'm 5' 8" now and praying if I get on T like, the day after I turn 18 maybe I might grow ever so slightly more, but I doubt it. I'm pretty sure I'm done with my growth cycle with or without hormones and I'm 17.
I was always under the impression that the growth plates close after puberty, between 16-18.
I remember my doctor saying something about women reaching their full height 3-4 years after the onset of their periods, which for me was BS. I've grown six inches since then.
Either way, if you've completed puberty, it's highly unlikely that you'll grow.
Dont think its possible if ur past 16. 2yrs on T & I'm the same height 5'6'' but wish I was at least 5'8''. I'm 2 old to get taller & thats cool by me!
I haven't grown anymore.. would like to be taller but hey!
Not everyone's plates close at the same time. My mom stopped growing when she was 22. My brother is 21 and still growing. I believe that even though I'm 18, I have one more growth spurt before I'm done. Looking at my family's history tells me that the textbook answers aren't 100%.
I'm just under 5'3". My mom is 5'3" or 5'4". My dad is 5"11'. My brother is something like 5"5" or 5'6", at least the last time I saw him (2 months ago). I have a potential to be as tall as the taller women in my family. Most women in my family are around 5'4", but some of them have been as tall as 5'5" or 5'6". I'd prefer to be just a little taller than short Mexican and Asian women. That's all I ask.
Aerobic exercises can increase the body's growth hormone output. I hear if one is consistent it COULD have an effect. It would have done me better to start in middle school, though. :/
Kinda funny, I am just over 5'8 and wish I was a tad taller. I suppose I am a good height as I blend in well to any crowd and find there are plenty of people of both genders shorter then me. I am avg. to all the guys around me except a few who are about the 6' range, which is closer to where I would like to be. I guess the height thing for me is taller people rarely look fat and despite my loosing body fat and gaining muscle I am honestly to vain to be happy and pray for T soon. Too bad height is not a benifit.
I thought I had stopped growing at fifteen but I recently noticed that I've gotten taller than before. That's mostly a result of not slouching so much any more, though, I think.
I'm currently 167 cm, 5'5" in feet if the converter I used is correct.
Quote from: Ciarquin on August 21, 2008, 03:11:28 PM
I thought I had stopped growing at fifteen but I recently noticed that I've gotten taller than before. That's mostly a result of not slouching so much any more, though, I think.
I'm currently 167 cm, 5'5" in feet if the converter I used is correct.
I have noticed from my own observation that the more I work out and the more masculine I feel the more I stand up straight. I had to force myself at first though because I would slouch slightly to hide well... you know.. those body parts I want to loose ASAP. But now I am finding I am more correct in my posture and that has aided me in height as well. A few years ago I was recorded at 5'6 or 5'7 but now when I get my height done its 5'8 or 5'9. I think this is because of my forcing myself to correct my posture and my bones and muscles responding. On a side note, its made my back feel much better especially during stretches.
I'm 5 ft 3 or 4. Sucks being short in general... especially 'cause it makes me seem younger.
Unless you start T when you're still growing you're out of luck.
I kept growing till I was 26. But then I didn't start really until 17. Wish I'd started T early :/
Dennis
So...If you have good posture,good sleep(8 hours, since your pitubary[however you spell it]gland is activated while you sleep),have the right diet for your bones and strech maybe all the time and intensely, and your plates havent closed(since everyones different when it comes to that), and youre on T, then maybe... Cause that would be awesome.
Quote from: Jack Daniels on August 22, 2008, 11:25:38 PM
So...If you have good posture,good sleep(8 hours, since your pitubary[however you spell it]gland is activated while you sleep),have the right diet for your bones and strech maybe all the time and intensely, and your plates havent closed(since everyones different when it comes to that), and youre on T, then maybe... Cause that would be awesome.
That's a lot of factors for a 'maybe.'
And as for the pituitary- I have a horrible time sleeping. Have since I was a kid. I average 2-3 hours a night, not counting the 1-2 nights per week I don't sleep at all, and I'm 5'10". Maybe my pituitary adapted to my craziness. :)
I'm 5'7"-8" ... I seem to be about average male height in NZ, thank god. lol.
It seems people everywhere seem to be getting taller and taller. My 14 yr old brother and sister are both my height already! He's supposed to reach 6ft+ and she's supposed to get around there too.
That's a lot of factors for a 'maybe.'
And as for the pituitary- I have a horrible time sleeping. Have since I was a kid. I average 2-3 hours a night, not counting the 1-2 nights per week I don't sleep at all, and I'm 5'10". Maybe my pituitary adapted to my craziness. :)
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I was talking more about after puberty. Genetics always play in part but I m talkin about ways to still grow after you re done with growing basically, even beyond your plates. Though Im not really sure but doing tests always work,for some people. But yeah, if youre naturally tall, and you did none of the above, you have great genes.
I'm 5' 9". I grew about a half-inch after I started T when I was 18. Don't know whether I would have grown had I not been on T.
Quote from: Andrew on August 23, 2008, 11:49:08 PM
I'm 5' 9". I grew about a half-inch after I started T when I was 18. Don't know whether I would have grown had I not been on T.
That s awesome. Gives me hope that maybe, just maybe I could still grow. But then I start thinkin that well everyone is different, but still, im way too short, and need hope wherever it comes,...so thanks
Quote from: Andrew on August 23, 2008, 11:49:08 PM
I'm 5' 9". I grew about a half-inch after I started T when I was 18. Don't know whether I would have grown had I not been on T.
I HOPE THAT HAPPEN TO ME. :
D
But you were already 5'9". I'm 5'2", almost 5'3". I mean, I'd be happy if I was 5'5", even. It'd be nice to at least fall under the average for women. But I'm even shorter than that!
I feel your pain, Im 5"2 too, and just to be even a little taller would be great
Quote from: Jack Daniels on August 24, 2008, 02:30:41 PMI feel your pain, Im 5"2 too, and just to be even a little taller would be great
I'm trying everything. Aerobics (which can increase growth hormone production), proper diet, stretching, spine health... you name it. I just don't know what else to try. :(
Man, I am too, but im also going to start trying ankle weights, too. You sit on a bed/chair and dont let your feet touch the ground, keep them slightly elevated, and with the added weight of gravity, your body should strech. I just hope this works cause eating, sleeping, and streching can only go so far...
I hear that laying on a flat surface on your back helps too. Having your spine straightened can add a couple inches if it isn't aligned properly.
Same with hanging from a bar for some seconds. Ill try all these methods and if any results show up, i'll inform you...although, it would be difficult to extract which method actually worked, I'll guestimate.
Quote from: Jack Daniels on August 24, 2008, 05:30:42 PMSame with hanging from a bar for some seconds. Ill try all these methods and if any results show up, i'll inform you...although, it would be difficult to extract which method actually worked, I'll guestimate.
Thanks.
I know there are surgeries that they do in your legs that can add something like 2-4 inches, but it's very expensive, very painful, somewhat cripples you, and they usually only do it for dwarves. It would take a long time to get something like that approved, and all that for just a couple inches... doesn't feel worth it. Then again, just 2 more and I'd meet the average. It almost sounds easier to be on growth hormone for the rest of my life (which may or may not make me taller). Except that actually requires a "legitimate reason" or else every short person would be on it.
Growth hormone is expensive... and so is that surgery(i heard like 200,000). You re right, its probably not worth it and they might not even approve, but this one little person got the surgery and went from 4'3 to 4'10.(this usually doesnt happen I dont think), but the pain she went throgh, plus she got infected and went through part of the surgery without no anestic(i cant spell).
But being more positive, hopefullly we'll grow with our streching, exercising, diet, sleep, ect...hopefully...
That sounds incredibly painful. I heard someone joke about it in a movie once.. White Chicks, I think?
"We got our knees done."
Short girl: "You can do that?"
Tall girl to short girl: "You should do that!"
But I never realized it actually existed. Ouch. I'd rather be 5'2.5 my entire life. Besides, I love short guys, so why not like that part of myself?
Lol. It's not done in the knees. I believe it's done in the tibia and fibula. Those are your shin bones. It MIGHT be done in the femur.
I believe this (http://www.shortsupport.org/Health/Leg-Lengthening/index.html) is the procedure you're talking about. It looks... nasty.
There are advantages to having a smaller stature, you know. Have a look here (http://www.shortsupport.org/Research/samaras.html). :)
Yeah, it sounds like it'd have to be done in both the tibia and the femur, right? Otherwise you'd have weirdly proportioned legs. Anyway, ouch.. it sounds horrible!
And I never knew short people had so much going for them, Lei. That's neat. :)
Quote from: Leiandra on August 24, 2008, 07:14:02 PMI believe this (http://www.shortsupport.org/Health/Leg-Lengthening/index.html) is the procedure you're talking about. It looks... nasty.
There are advantages to having a smaller stature, you know. Have a look here (http://www.shortsupport.org/Research/samaras.html). :)
Being short does have some of it's advantages, but still. I don't want to live to be 80 anyway. I'd like to die relatively young, in my 70's. I don't want to die a cripple. So I don't mind having a shorter life span... if that would make me taller.
That is the procedure I was talking about. It's very painful and takes a long time. The patient cannot walk or anything for a very long time... No one in my family would ever support it so I don't think it could ever work for me.
Here's an animation of the procedure:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi5.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy168%2Fpenguin_furuba%2Fleg_lengthening.gif&hash=393a84986e20fb60765e7484c9454823d36d52f2)
Here's a graphic photo of what it does to your legs: http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y168/penguin_furuba/61.jpg
Oh my god. That's awful.
And like I said, it looks like it would make your legs disproportioned!
I want to die before I get old and sick because my family has so many age-linked medical problems in its history, like diabetes and cancer and macular degeneration. I could not stand going blind, I would honestly rather die.
But hey! Reduced risk of heart disease.
Yeow!!!
Looks painful...
Quote from: Jack Daniels on August 24, 2008, 09:51:03 PM
Looks painful...
Saw a documentary on it once. It's agonizing. And over a long period of time. No thanks. I'm 5'5" and have many bio male friends who are the same height or shorter. Yeah, I'd like to be tall, but it ain't gonna happen. Still and all, I'm living the life I want to and if it means making myself proportionately shorter in comparison to my gender, it's still worth it.
Dennis
Quote from: Dennis on August 24, 2008, 11:35:39 PM
Quote from: Jack Daniels on August 24, 2008, 09:51:03 PM
Looks painful...
Saw a documentary on it once. It's agonizing. And over a long period of time. No thanks. I'm 5'5" and have many bio male friends who are the same height or shorter. Yeah, I'd like to be tall, but it ain't gonna happen. Still and all, I'm living the life I want to and if it means making myself proportionately shorter in comparison to my gender, it's still worth it.
Dennis
Yeah, you have a great point, but 5"2 is just too short.Im shorter than alot of girls, and then with the guys its even worse. BUT, theres always streching and the little hope that brings...
The procedure is very painful and there is a limit to how much they can do because
since there not doing the bottom and upper bone, there will be problems if they make
one much longer than the other. So, they may make you up to 3 inch taller, but that's
a lot of risks and pain for that.
The smaller you are, the smaller the number of inch they can
make you go up without looking weird and impacting locomotion.
So, someone 4 foot 10 could be made 5 foot tall, but
someone 5 foot 3 could probably be made 5 foot 6.
This procedure cannot make you tall, at best it can take you inside
the 5 foot 8 and more, average male range (the average is 5 foot 10 with a
2 inch standard deviation around it). So, if you're 5 foot 5 and less,
it won't make you close to average height for a male.
Quote from: Jack Daniels on August 25, 2008, 01:12:31 AMQuote from: Dennis on August 24, 2008, 11:35:39 PMQuote from: Jack Daniels on August 24, 2008, 09:51:03 PMLooks painful...
Saw a documentary on it once. It's agonizing. And over a long period of time. No thanks. I'm 5'5" and have many bio male friends who are the same height or shorter. Yeah, I'd like to be tall, but it ain't gonna happen. Still and all, I'm living the life I want to and if it means making myself proportionately shorter in comparison to my gender, it's still worth it.
Dennis
Yeah, you have a great point, but 5"2 is just too short.Im shorter than alot of girls, and then with the guys its even worse. BUT, theres always streching and the little hope that brings...
How old are you? You might have some growing left. I'm 18 and my mom is sure she didn't stop growing until she was 22. We young folk have hope left and if we do the right things nutritionally we might be able to kick in another inch or two.
I personally won't die if I stay 5'3". But I don't like being "uke." Some guy's butt toy. I don't like being feminine or someone's little pet. I always have been. Because I weigh under 80lbs, people always like to pick me up and carry me around. I gave up struggling years ago; I'm just plain too weak. The whole world looks like a bunch of dumbfrack juggernauts who are big and stupid and like to choke little animals/people by squeezing them too hard.
"uke"...Thats funny. Yeah Man!, Me and you are supposed to be seme! Im 18 too. Youre right, we do have hope left and must continue. Thanks Keira, I see no one thinks its a good idea to get the height surgery, and I agree, I dont want to look handicapped or disporportioned(spelling fails at life)...but this height thing is killin me. I ll just continue to wear unisex boots with platforms until I hopefully grow taller. And I feel bad for you that people pick up up, people used to do that to me, until I started theating to demolish their entire existence.
Don't forget, there are also shoes specifically made for short men. Some will add as much as 4" to your height. They're a bit pricey, though, so unless you have money to burn, you probably want to wait until you've been on T awhile and have had all the growth you're likely to get in your feet. (I understand it's not uncommon to gain 1/2 a shoe size when you start T.) There's a list of elevator shoe vendors over on the Hudson's FTM guide site.
There are no shows that really add 4 inches to your height because such shoes would look too
obvious. A platform shoes must almost look like a normal shoe, at 4 inch, its impossible. Of course
if you wear platform healed boots, then you'd probably be up 4 inches, but that's quite uncomfortable
to walk in.
Its the same with high heels shoes, a 4 inch heel shoe doesn't make you 4 inch taller, it makes you
at bit less than 3 inch taller. The longer the shoe (shoe size), the closer to the heel height you can elevate yourself.
I was wondering how that would work, myself. But, that's what they claim on the web site. (Actually, they have one model that they claim can make you 5 inches taller.) I haven't tried them on though, so I couldn't verify it. :) I suspect that they are platform boots with a bit of a heel, and then they make the outside of the shoe come down farther than usual so they don't look like giant platforms. That's just my guess, though.
Quote from: Jamie-o on August 26, 2008, 04:29:00 AM
I was wondering how that would work, myself. But, that's what they claim on the web site. (Actually, they have one model that they claim can make you 5 inches taller.) I haven't tried them on though, so I couldn't verify it. :) I suspect that they are platform boots with a bit of a heel, and then they make the outside of the shoe come down farther than usual so they don't look like giant platforms. That's just my guess, though.
I have a pair of these. They look like normal dress shoes on the outside and inside they got the platform to raise you up. Here are some pictures of mine.
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In this pic my thumb is at the top of the inner platform so that you can get an idea of how much is hidden inside:
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you know those are great. An easy fix to a problem thats cheap and effective. how much were yours
Quote from: Jack Daniels on August 26, 2008, 02:06:38 PM
you know those are great. An easy fix to a problem thats cheap and effective. how much were yours
In the $85 range. They sold a model for $75ish but those were out of stock at the time that I ordered them and I REALLY wanted them in time for graduation (I did not want to look stupid at the podium giving my speech with the audience only able to see the top of my mortarboard :embarrassed:).
Omfg! I love those shoes. Not because they're raise, but the style.
Unfortunately, I am a BOY'S 3. That's really small. I can never get custom shoe jobs like this. Not for an affordable price.
I personally do not want to be taller "in comparison to other people's heads," so the shoe's won't help. I want to have longer limbs and a wider shoulder span. I really just want to be bigger with the same proportions.
My ex-wife is 5'10" and her new fiance is 5'3" if that helps.
Quote from: Melissa on August 26, 2008, 06:17:26 PMMy ex-wife is 5'10" and her new fiance is 5'3" if that helps.
That does help. SHORT PEEPS GET MARRIED! ;D Yay.
That doesn't really look like 5 inch, more like 3 inch tops.
With the incline, probably less, how much higher you are depends
on wear the ball of your foot resides, not the back of your foot.
Measure yourself with and without shoes to see how much it
really makes you look taller.
Quote from: Keira on August 26, 2008, 06:48:38 PM
That doesn't really look like 5 inch, more like 3 inch tops.
With the incline, probably less, how much higher you are depends
on wear the ball of your foot resides, not the back of your foot.
Measure yourself with and without shoes to see how much it
really makes you look taller.
They make you 7.5 cm not 5 in. I should have clarified in my other post, but I forgot to put it in when typing this the second time around. It actually does make you taller because it is like stepping on tip-toes (which I do often when taking group pictures because I am vertically challenged ;)). If I had someone else to help me take some pictures to compare the difference with and without the shoes, I would not mind posting some, but I had a b*tch of a time trying to get enough of my body in a pic for both the binder review thread and the style thread.
It occurred to me, the irony is, if I bought a pair of these shoes, I'd have to learn to walk in heels. :D
Actually, I have one pair of high-heeled boots, which I really like because they make me taller. But, I find that the position they put my feet in gives me a more feminine walk. Do you find that happens with your lifts?
I'm not too worried, mind you. I'm O.K. with poncing around like Mr. Humphreys. ;) "Walk this way, Sir."
It is not as hard as walking in heels, because the heel is not some little point that you balance on but something that is just as wide as your regular heel. But, yes, you do have to alter your stride a bit to be more masculine. It is not too hard though once you get used to the change in your center of balance.
Meh. It only adds a little bit, and it doesn't make you actually bigger. I want to be a larger size keeping a reasonable proportion. Average. Putting blocks on my feet won't make my bones bigger.
I have, however, learned one technique of height increase that is proven to work under certain circumstances. It does NOT make you grow. It does, however, decompress the spine. If your spine is a horrible mess, then you might have a couple inches hiding in there. If you've always had good posture, this probably won't do much about your height, but it still good for you.
Remember: If you intend to try this exercise do it very carefully and slowly. Do not pull or strain. You should only allow gravity to pull down and the movement should be effortless. If you feel any pulls or tightness, something is wrong. Also, remember to breathe. Don't hold your breath during the process.http://www.thirstyirishrunners.org/Articles/taking_care_of_your_spine.htm (http://www.thirstyirishrunners.org/Articles/taking_care_of_your_spine.htm)
QuoteTaking care of your spine
By Brian Dorfman
For Active.com
August 18, 2006
Running clears the mind and compresses the spine. The spinal cord is the brain's messenger. It lives in the center of your vertebra and finds peace when given just the right amount of twist and torque.
With long term stress, problems of the spine can range from uncomfortable to painful to excruciating. The good news is that the relationship between running and compression is not all bad.
Our system responds to compression with strength, repair and adaptability. However, long training can cause break down and fatigue. Help the back muscles to release and the spine to recover faster using the following stretches. They will hydrate fluid in the disk, release tight spine muscles and promote recovery of the nervous system.
Lower back elongator
The pros like this stretch because it is easy, but deeply effective. It may be just the answer for a sore back after a long ride -- particularly if climbing is involved. The lower back elongator will relax lower back muscles, extend the spine and increase nutrition and recovery to the brain.
This stretch is most effective when you use your inhale to expand your ribs. Recall that if the ribs move, the spine moves, then the brain moves.
1. Start on your hands and knees.
2. Then lower your hips to your heels and your chest to your knees.
3. Rest your forehead on the floor.
4. Use your inhale to expand the ribs.
5. Stay for 10 - 20 breaths.
The elongator is most effective when step four is implemented. In this and all stretches, find a position that feels comfortable, then direct your attention to the areas that you want to access. And finally, use your breathe to expand into the deep internal muscles.
Spine roll
The nervous system has a mass of 2 kg/4.5 pounds and accounts for three percent of our body weight. It does more work than a triathlete, knows more about the body than a doctor and is responsible for food and waste removal to the brain.
The spine roll uses the ever-present force of gravity and the weight of the head to bring balance to your nervous system. This balance includes decompression of the disks, cerebral spinal fluid to the brain and stress response of the nervous system.
1. Interlace your hands behind your head, keeping your fingers and elbows relaxed.
2. As you exhale, bend your knees; relax your elbows toward your face and round forward.
3. Stay and inhale into the ribs.
4. When you exhale, keep the chin in toward your chest and roll up.
5. Repeat five times, moving on the exhale and staying on the inhale.
6. This is a great position to stay in for 5 - 10 breaths.
Take your time with the spine roll. After moving up and down four to six times, move to a position that feels extra tight, stop, expand the area with your inhale and wait. Then slightly shift your position and find the next tight area, breath and wait.
Experience these simple stretches. Find the depth of your recovery. Stay strong. Feel good.
Race and train forever.
Brian Dorfman's proven techniques keep many triathletes performing at their peak. Brian can be reached at www.briandorfman.com.
Quote from: Elwood on August 24, 2008, 07:25:10 PM
Here's an animation of the procedure:
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Here's a graphic photo of what it does to your legs: http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y168/penguin_furuba/61.jpg
damn! :icon_yikes: :icon_yikes: 5'6'' aint that bad 4 a dude like me :D :D dunno if I wanna do that. :D
The procedure takes forever and leaves horrific scarring on your legs. It also contributes to bone weakness. Even though I'd be happy with being 2-3 inches taller... I just don't think it's worth the scarring and pain it causes. Plus I'd be out of work for like 3 years or however long it takes.