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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Post operative life => Topic started by: Dorothy on January 29, 2009, 03:36:11 AM

Title: Urine stream
Post by: Dorothy on January 29, 2009, 03:36:11 AM
I've been post-operational for 2 months but my urine stream hasnt normalised.  When I go to the toilet, it goes all over the place.  Nasty. Have you experienced anything like it? 
Title: Re: Urine stream
Post by: Buffy on January 29, 2009, 05:06:07 AM
Two months is nothing Pia, there will still be some swelling and all the healing will not have taken place.

Also try some different sitting positions on the toilet, I had similar issues until I learned to lean forward a bit and tilt my pelvis.

Rebecca
Title: Re: Urine stream
Post by: Sandy on January 29, 2009, 05:49:06 AM
Swelling can still be an issue as well as other anatomical issues that are still changing.

Also Buffy has a point.  All girls have to learn how to urinate without wetting themselves too much.  And each woman is different but leaning forward is a good rule of thumb to start with.  It took me a bit as well.

The first time I urinated it was like holding your thumb over a garden hose. :o  It went everywhere!

-Sandy
Title: Re: Urine stream
Post by: Sheila on January 29, 2009, 12:44:51 PM
When the swelling goes down a bit you will find that the stream will be more consistant. You will learn. It is all about growing up.
Title: Re: Urine stream
Post by: perfectisolation on January 29, 2009, 07:23:23 PM
Yes Pia and I have a bio one  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Urine stream
Post by: Nicky on January 29, 2009, 07:35:09 PM
My daughter is 2 and it seems to go everywhere. I always assumed it just worked like you would expect, but it does not look like it.

On a side note most guys I know can't help but get it everywhere either.
Title: Re: Urine stream
Post by: tinkerbell on January 29, 2009, 07:49:51 PM
I concur with the others.  Although the neo-vagina may appear "healed" after three months, this is not usually the case internally, for it may take up to year for everything to normalize gradually, including your urine stream.  But I totally understand your embarrassment and disgust *hugs*  It is just one of those things that comes with the package of being newly post-op.  At least at home one can deal with these sorts of "problems" but they are quite bothersome when they happen elsewhere.  ::)


tink :icon_chick:
Title: Re: Urine stream
Post by: Ms.Behavin on January 29, 2009, 09:05:13 PM
Mine got better over time and after 6 months it was pretty straight.  Now 8 months later its straight as an arrow.  Like ever one else said it just takes time.

Beni
Title: Re: Urine stream
Post by: Jeannette on January 30, 2009, 05:15:40 AM
Emailed Marci about this & the incontinence problem I talked about before.  I find it gets worse when I laugh & or get nervous.  Marci says this is normal the first six months after GRS but shoud improve so I'm hoping.
Title: Re: Urine stream
Post by: Nero on January 30, 2009, 06:18:54 AM
Quote from: Jeannette on January 30, 2009, 05:15:40 AM
Emailed Marci about this & the incontinence problem I talked about before.  I find it gets worse when I laugh & or get nervous.  Marci says this is normal the first six months after GRS but shoud improve so I'm hoping.

Just a note, hon: A LOT of women have this problem when they laugh or sneeze. Or even exercise. Not fun, but pretty common.  :)
Title: Re: Urine stream
Post by: Sandy on January 30, 2009, 09:16:34 AM
Quote from: Jeannette on January 30, 2009, 05:15:40 AM
Emailed Marci about this & the incontinence problem I talked about before.  I find it gets worse when I laugh & or get nervous.  Marci says this is normal the first six months after GRS but shoud improve so I'm hoping.
I was warned about possible post operative incontinence as well.  I was advised to practice muscle control.  It's the well known Keegle exercise.  I'm sure that it can be googled for specifics.  But primarily starting and stopping your flow as you urinate will help rebuild muscle tone.

Having SRS is an incredible trauma to the groin.  Swelling and incontinence are understandable.  If you talk to women who have had cesareans you'll find that many of them may be incontinent for months following their procedure.

I wish you all the best Jeannette.  I hope that everything gets back to normal for you soon!

-Sandy 
Title: Re: Urine stream
Post by: Natasha on January 30, 2009, 10:23:38 AM
Quote from: Pia on January 29, 2009, 03:36:11 AM
I've been post-operational for 2 months but my urine stream hasnt normalised.  When I go to the toilet, it goes all over the place.  Nasty. Have you experienced anything like it?

Quote from: Jeannette on January 30, 2009, 05:15:40 AM
Emailed Marci about this & the incontinence problem I talked about before.  I find it gets worse when I laugh & or get nervous.  Marci says this is normal the first six months after GRS but shoud improve so I'm hoping.

who's "marci"? think you mean dr. bowers.  i'm also a "marci's girl" btw & she's right. it gets better.  just give it time. 
Title: Re: Urine stream
Post by: Valentina on January 31, 2009, 03:19:18 AM
Quote from: Pia on January 29, 2009, 03:36:11 AM
I've been post-operational for 2 months but my urine stream hasnt normalised.  When I go to the toilet, it goes all over the place.  Nasty. Have you experienced anything like it?

We went to the same surgeon.  Practically we missed each other by days.  Yup I've experienced the same thing.  :)
I've got nothing more to add but reiterate what everybody's said. Don't want to cloud your thread with the same advice.  Check your e-mails. You've got mail.
Title: Re: Urine stream
Post by: klodefm42 on February 04, 2009, 07:05:21 AM
You learn something everyday and I just did! You people are so awesome!  :D
Title: Re: Urine stream
Post by: Mister on February 04, 2009, 10:12:21 AM
Quote from: Nero on January 30, 2009, 06:18:54 AM
Quote from: Jeannette on January 30, 2009, 05:15:40 AM
Emailed Marci about this & the incontinence problem I talked about before.  I find it gets worse when I laugh & or get nervous.  Marci says this is normal the first six months after GRS but shoud improve so I'm hoping.

Just a note, hon: A LOT of women have this problem when they laugh or sneeze. Or even exercise. Not fun, but pretty common.  :)

And trampolines!

my normal advice would be to do Kegel's....   but now I'm sitting here and trying to figure out if MTFs have the appropriate musculature.  help!
Title: Re: Urine stream
Post by: Sandy on February 04, 2009, 10:20:52 AM
Quote from: Mister on February 04, 2009, 10:12:21 AM

my normal advice would be to do Kegel's....   but now I'm sitting here and trying to figure out if MTFs have the appropriate musculature.  help!
Short answer is "Yes we do!"

Actually there is quite a bit of similarity between the male and female genitalia.  The differentiation occurs in the womb near the end of the first trimester, I believe.  But up to that point we all start out as females.

-Sandy
Title: Re: Urine stream
Post by: Mister on February 04, 2009, 10:23:17 AM
thx, sandy.

Kegels! do Kegels!
Title: Re: Urine stream
Post by: BiirthaZ on March 01, 2009, 12:27:46 PM
I talk to my female doctor about my peeing. She said, All woman pee differently since they all have a different vagina. Some spray and some do not. You are a woman a unique woman with a unique vagina, allow it to be unique, I wipe my self after every pee myself. Think of it you have a sterilization unit to clean you after you go pottie.
Title: Re: Urine stream
Post by: Jeannette on March 01, 2009, 01:07:12 PM
Quote from: BiirthaZ on March 01, 2009, 12:27:46 PM
I wipe my self after every pee myself.

Isn't that what every woman supposed to do after they go pottie anyways?

Quote from: BiirthaZ on March 01, 2009, 12:27:46 PM
I talk to my female doctor about my peeing. She said, All woman pee differently since they all have a different vagina. Some spray and some do not. You are a woman a unique woman with a unique vagina, allow it to be unique

It's normal if the problem's minor but we were more concerned about making a mess every time we use the toilet.
Title: Re: Urine stream
Post by: Hazumu on March 01, 2009, 02:14:37 PM
Even after recovery, it can still vary over time.

NOTE: Urine is normally sterile when it exits the body.  But, loaded with nutrients, it's easily colonized by bacteria, which are what produce the odors.  So blotting up the moisture after peeing is more than sufficient if you're already healthy 'down there'.

=K
Title: Re: Urine stream
Post by: BiirthaZ on March 01, 2009, 05:14:38 PM
"It's normal if the problem's minor but we were more concerned about making a mess every time we use the toilet."

Well I assume you sit down to pee. It will go into the toilet. Wipe yourself off maybe carry a pack of baby wipes with you for cleaning your butt off.
Title: Re: Urine stream
Post by: Jeannette on March 07, 2009, 02:28:30 PM
Quote from: BiirthaZ on March 01, 2009, 05:14:38 PM

Well I assume you sit down to pee.

??? don't you? or do you pee standing up?
Title: Re: Urine stream
Post by: BiirthaZ on March 07, 2009, 02:33:33 PM
Yep all the time.
Title: Re: Urine stream
Post by: Dorothy on March 17, 2009, 12:06:20 PM
Many thanks to everybody for their moral support & experiences. It helped a great deal.
Title: Re: Urine stream
Post by: Lin on March 21, 2009, 02:44:05 AM
Quote from: BiirthaZ on March 01, 2009, 12:27:46 PM
I talk to my female doctor about my peeing. She said, All woman pee differently since they all have a different vagina. Some spray and some do not. You are a woman a unique woman with a unique vagina, allow it to be unique, I wipe my self after every pee myself. Think of it you have a sterilization unit to clean you after you go pottie.

I'm 2 years post-op, and my my urine stream has been straight and constant since a few monthes after the op, but now I still always wipe myself after every pee. That's pretty normal. I think most women do like this. So, Pia, don't worry too much, and hope things are going well for you.
Title: Re: Urine stream
Post by: Dorothy on March 22, 2009, 10:45:31 PM
Quote from: Asianrose on March 21, 2009, 02:44:05 AM
I'm 2 years post-op, and my my urine stream has been straight and constant since a few monthes after the op, but now I still always wipe myself after every pee. That's pretty normal. I think most women do like this. So, Pia, don't worry too much, and hope things are going well for you.

Many thanks for the encouragement.  Can I ask after how many monthes it normalised?
Title: Re: Urine stream
Post by: Lin on March 23, 2009, 03:31:12 PM
Quote from: Pia on March 22, 2009, 10:45:31 PM
Many thanks for the encouragement.  Can I ask after how many monthes it normalised?

You're more than welcome. I don't remember exactly how many monthes, but I think it's something between 4-6 monthes.
Title: Re: Urine stream
Post by: Yvonne on April 10, 2009, 03:27:45 PM
What peeps don't understand sometimes is that everything's repositioned during GRS so it's going to take time for your body & pelvic muscles to adjust.  I'm too a Bowers' girl btw, had GRS in 2005 & took me a whole year for my urine stream to normalise. 
Title: Re: Urine stream
Post by: Dorothy on April 11, 2009, 09:45:10 AM
Quote from: Yvonne on April 10, 2009, 03:27:45 PM
What peeps don't understand sometimes is that everything's repositioned during GRS so it's going to take time for your body & pelvic muscles to adjust.  I'm too a Bowers' girl btw, had GRS in 2005 & took me a whole year for my urine stream to normalise.

Don't think there's a lack of understanding there.  But why do some peeps have got different results?.  I know everybody's different but even so it makes me wonder.
Title: Re: Urine stream
Post by: sd on April 11, 2009, 02:28:01 PM
Quote from: Pia on April 11, 2009, 09:45:10 AM
Don't think there's a lack of understanding there.  But why do some peeps have got different results?.  I know everybody's different but even so it makes me wonder.
All it takes is one stitch to be in a different place I would imagine. Considering the differences in everyones anatomy down there just in nature, it's reasonable that after major changes that there would bean even greater variance.
Title: Re: Urine stream
Post by: Jeannette on April 18, 2009, 06:17:10 AM
Quote from: Leslie Ann on April 11, 2009, 02:28:01 PM
All it takes is one stitch to be in a different place I would imagine. Considering the differences in everyones anatomy down there just in nature, it's reasonable that after major changes that there would bean even greater variance.

I'm beginning to contemplate this is true.  I know a few gals that have also gone to Marci for their GRS & unlike me they didn't have any problems with their urine stream being "erratic" the first few months post-op.
Title: Re: Urine stream
Post by: Blanche on April 18, 2009, 09:16:36 AM
My experience's been the same as AsianRose's.

Quote from: AsianRoseI'm 2 years post-op, and my my urine stream has been straight and constant since a few monthes after the op, but now I still always wipe myself after every pee. That's pretty normal. I think most women do like this. So, Pia, don't worry too much, and hope things are going well for you

My urine stream normalised after only two months post op. 
Title: Re: Urine stream
Post by: Fer on April 19, 2009, 05:49:30 PM
Never had a problem with urine stream. It's always been direct to the point since the first time after sugery. ;)
Title: Re: Urine stream
Post by: Dorothy on April 25, 2009, 04:13:22 PM
Quote from: Fer on April 19, 2009, 05:49:30 PM
Never had a problem with urine stream. It's always been direct to the point since the first time after sugery. ;)

Consider yourself lucky. It isn't something you want to experience. Can I ask who your surgeon was?
Title: Re: Urine stream
Post by: lisanicholeb on December 11, 2010, 08:36:50 AM
uh huh....lol  by now that has been corrected eh? the swelling usually causes that to happen and it takes some time.  I uses to p al over til the swelling went down. now it is normal
Title: Re: Urine stream
Post by: missyzanta on December 17, 2010, 07:06:04 AM
I am 7mths post and my stream JUST got better.  I close my legs and lean forward.  It will get better.  You are still swollen down there for up to a year.