Do you cross dress just for the thrill or the fun of it?
Do you cross dress to get sexually aroused
Do you cross dress to get in touch with your feminine side?
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Do you find it difficult to go back in drab after a wonderful time out?
Do you dress as the target gender because it feels more normal?
Are you serious about your appearance in the target gender you are presenting?
What is your opinion on dressing properly according to your age for the gender you present?
Anyone care to give any tips and suggestions?
Cindy
Well cross dressing is fun in some ways but that's not the core reason. I do it to be feminine. It's something I want to express, and it's been that way since I was a child. It's hard for me to say CD feels normal. It feels like I'm out of place (in part b/c of my body). I am certainly serious about what I want to present, and I think you do have to dress age appropriate though from what I've seen many TV and TG on the MTF end have their slutty phase (like many girls go through).
Hi Cindy (we both luv the name ;))
I cross dress because I have to go to work as a male. When I'm at home I dress in female attire because that's what I am. As for age, difficult, yes I Try to dress my age - but- so many styles o short a time to try them ;)
Always worry about mother of the bride clothes when I haven't been the bride!
Love
Cindy J
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Do you cross dress just for the thrill or the fun of it?
A little.
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Do you cross dress to get sexually aroused
I have gotten aroused when dressing as a girl. Not sure if that counts.
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Do you cross dress to get in touch with your feminine side?
Absolutely. Or rather, to express my feminine side, which feels more natural to me.
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Do you find it difficult to go back in drag after a wonderful time out?
No.
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Do you dress as the target gender because it feels more normal?
Yes.
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Are you serious about your appearance in the target gender you are presenting?
Extremely.
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What is your opinion on dressing properly according to your age for the gender you present?
This is EXTREMELY context-dependent. Different people look good in different things during different situations. There is no definite answer for this.
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Anyone care to give any tips and suggestions?
Again, this is very context-dependent, but the best advice I can give in general is to go the extra mile. Take the time to really focus on your appearance and be critical of your looks. This could mean several different attempts to style your hair and finding just the right outfit for the occasion, even if it's just a stroll down the street in the middle of the afternoon. Put the extra work into it now, so you're not constantly thinking about it later.
Quote from: cindybc on February 06, 2009, 01:49:57 PM
Do you cross dress just for the thrill or the fun of it?
I do it because girls clothes are fun to wear (compared to boring man clothes).
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Do you cross dress to get sexually aroused
I dunno. I don't do it to get a physical arousal but I definitely do feel sexier in the womens clothes.
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Do you cross dress to get in touch with your feminine side?
Yes
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Do you find it difficult to go back in drag after a wonderful time out?
I'm not sure what you mean here
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Do you dress as the target gender because it feels more normal?
I dunno, I'm just beginning. Man clothes feel more 'normal' because I've been wearing them for 25+ years, but girls clothes feel 'right' in a normal way.
I'm kind of in a weird space about the thing, but its probably not that uncommon. When I put the man clothes back on, *that's* when I feel like I'm cross dressing now. Everywhere I go in public in the man-clothes, I have this nagging feeling that I'm being dishonest with everyone I meet. If I could pass at this stage, I'd probably not put the man-clothes back on again. I think.
Do you cross dress just for the thrill or the fun of it? No, except for maybe if I was to go out clubbing, which I don't do anyway
Do you cross dress to get sexually aroused? NO
Do you cross dress to get in touch with your feminine side? No, it is part of my everyday life now.
Do you find it difficult to go back in drag after a wonderful time out? I use to. I hated being in 'boy' mode.
Do you dress as the target gender because it feels more normal? Of course
Are you serious about your appearance in the target gender you are presenting? Yes. Very much so. I take pride in my appearance.
What is your opinion on dressing properly according to your age for the gender you present? It is what helps in blending into the rest of the female population.
Janet
Bingo!!! That is what it's all about Janet hon. ;)
No offence to cross dressers intended this is only my personal observation and not necessarily reflecting anyone else's.
Cross Dresser, I meant the type that just dress occasionally for the sexual thrill, or to play what ever sort of game cross dressers play, to be in touch with the inner self, or just wanna play pretend. They dress for the evening then go home and put their male garb back on and resume their lives as heterosexual males. No intentions of ever transitioning to become women.
Now there are those of us that did start out by cross dressing just for the fun of it in the privacy of our bedroom, then back to being in drab again when associating with male friends, family and wives. Then the time comes where the cross dressing becomes more serious as the GID progresses to the point where one can no longer hide that fact as to who they truly are within and the unavoidable urge to transition hits you big time.
I dress appropriately for who I am and no other reason. I dress as me 24hrs per day 7 days a week 12 months of the year because that is who I am. I am a woman just as woman as any other out there. I live and socialise with other women. Probably the only time I talk to a man is when Wing Walker and I take the Jeep into the dealer for servicing.
Let us just say I was filled with uncertainty and hesitation, both a good incubator for confusion. I am usually very strong and quite stable in my identity as who I present. After nine years I have no doubt as to who I am but sometimes I fear my limitations as to how to proceed with my feelings and convictions. Maybe sometimes it is good to be tested, because it keeps us on our toes and prevents us from being consumed into a vortex of complacency that leads to disillusionment.
Cindy
OK Cindy..
....make of this what you will, remembering that I live stealth in "boy" mode at the moment. ::)
Do you cross dress just for the thrill or the fun of it?
No, it's more like a basic need I cannot ignore :-\
Do you cross dress to get sexually aroused
I can do, but I also get aroused in a female way while dressed as a guy, or naked >:-)
Do you cross dress to get in touch with your feminine side?
Yes, it's a form of expression of how I feel ;)
Do you find it difficult to go back in drag after a wonderful time out?
I hardly ever go in "drag" unless it is a fancy dress party. I present male or female, the only thing that causes a problem is the latter is my stealth situation. :-\
Do you dress as the target gender because it feels more normal?
I'm not really sure what "normal" is for me these days ::)
Are you serious about your appearance in the target gender you are presenting?
110% appearance and attitude :)
What is your opinion on dressing properly according to your age for the gender you resent?
Wicked....but respectful....I like to dress in style, but possibly challenge my age..
My therapist describes me as a "Power" dresser....take that as you will ;D
...OK, so maybe I'm just confused but I am honest about it....? :-\
I'm not really sure why someone who is clearly so confident in their appearence and life, feels the need to ask these questions ? :-\
Chrissty
Do you cross dress just for the thrill or the fun of it?
No.
Do you cross dress to get sexually aroused
No have been presenting as female from early age, maybe if i began later it would of though
Do you cross dress to get in touch with your feminine side?
Yes and no, enjoy looking as good as i can but doesnt make me feel anymore like a woman beyond a feel good feeling.
Do you find it difficult to go back in drag after a wonderful time out?
Didnt understand fully (is fulltime drag?) but if not then no i do not.
Do you dress as the target gender because it feels more normal?
It is who i am.
Are you serious about your appearance in the target gender you are presenting?
Yes very much
What is your opinion on dressing properly according to your age for the gender you resent?
Yes i agree to dress similar for your age if you appear that age but there are exceptions, im a catwalk, power, ethnic or vampy dresser...do not try to appear as dressed way beyond my years though
Do you cross dress just for the thrill or the fun of it?
When going out to parties/drag events, yes. But that was before transition.
Do you cross dress to get sexually aroused
No.
Do you cross dress to get in touch with your feminine side?
I'm in touch with my feminine side 24/7, whether I'm in men's clothing, women's clothing, or naked in the tub. :P
Do you find it difficult to go back in drag after a wonderful time out?
Yes!
Do you dress as the target gender because it feels more normal?
Honestly, I just think the clothes are more fun as a woman. I don't know if that counts. :P
Are you serious about your appearance in the target gender you are presenting?
I'm obsessed with my appearance.
What is your opinion on dressing properly according to your age for the gender you resent?
I think it's very important. Dressing outside of your age only draws more attention to you, which is never a good thing. I'm in my late teens though so I'm at that sweet spot where nothing is really too young or too old for me.
Hi Chrissty, I ask these questions because I was curious as to the answers that the questions would generate. There has been so many controversial thoughts and ideas expressed on this topic on different threads. Why not bring it all under one thread?
From what I have read thus far it is very much as I had suspected, all over the map but all the responses are not necessarily right or wrong, but unique. Everyone has a different way at looking at themselves, where their at, and where they are going.
I think it is helpful for those who still bear uncertainty about their gender identity. Even I sometimes have my bad hair days, not in doubt as to who I am but as to my credibilety and validity in the things I get involved in, as I mentioned in part in my above post. I believe all have responded to these questions honesty in their own way, It's all for the good.
Question #4 in drag, should be in drab. *Typo*
Cindy
Do you cross dress just for the thrill or the fun of it?
On some level, yes, and on some level, no. I primarily crossdress so that I can "feel female". I cannot look in the mirror and perceive myself to be female wearing dumpy men's clothes.
Do you cross dress to get sexually aroused
Up to this point, I primarily wore women's clothing to get "aroused". HOWEVER, the arousal I've always felt has been more of a feel good/sexy type of arousal, not an "I want to gratify myself sexually" arousal. I no longer automatically get aroused in women's clothing, and I try to spend as much time in female clothing as I possibly can right now (although I'm very deep stealth).
Do you cross dress to get in touch with your feminine side?
Crossdressing helps me feel more like "myself" which is a my 100% femenine side.
Do you find it difficult to go back in drab after a wonderful time out?
I HATE going back, because I have to switch back to acting like a boy :(
Do you dress as the target gender because it feels more normal?
Being stylish and sexy feels normal (it's more aesthetically pleasing), and female clothing is definitely both. I also like the fact that it's tighter/form fitting rather than droopy.
Are you serious about your appearance in the target gender you are presenting?
I try to look just like the other "normal" girls out there.
What is your opinion on dressing properly according to your age for the gender you resent?
Most women my age wear t-shirts and jeans, and it can look good if done right. I'm a t-shirt/jeans girl.
I'll take "cross dressing" to mean "dressing for the target gender."
Do you cross dress just for the thrill or the fun of it?
Not particularly. I guess I try to have a little fun with however I dress.
Do you cross dress to get sexually aroused
No, but it used to be arousing when I was a teenager. Then again, nearly everything was arousing when I was a teenager. Furthermore, having two sisters that I envied fiercly, and feeling terribly ashamed of it and of wearing their clothes made it all extremely fraught. The reason I did it, though, I can best describe as my starving attempt to gather the crumbs of girlhood that fell from their table.
Do you cross dress to get in touch with your feminine side?
No. But it's nice that the perceived expectation to act in a masculine manner isn't there.
Do you find it difficult to go back in drab after a wonderful time out?
I find all normal daily transitions difficult -- waking up, getting out of the house, coming home, going to bed, etc. But I find it difficult every morning I have to go out in guy mode. It's a burden.
Do you dress as the target gender because it feels more normal?
I guess "more normal" is a bit contradictory. "More" usually means "farther from normal." I'd say it feels less awkward, even though there is awkwardness at the same time as I'm feeling out the social implications.
Are you serious about your appearance in the target gender you are presenting?
Yes, and I always was. Seeing myself in the mirror and not "passing" to my own satisfaction has always been painful.
What is your opinion on dressing properly according to your age for the gender you present?
Dress how you want. Understand that it will affect how people will treat you.
Anyone care to give any tips and suggestions?
For what? Dressing appropriately? I guess I already answered that.
Cross Dress, me? Never! Why in the heck would I do that? I have no desire to look like a man. ;)
Do you cross dress just for the thrill or the fun of it?
No
Do you cross dress to get sexually aroused?
No, but it may arouse others around me, and I'm OK with that.
Do you cross dress to get in touch with your feminine side?
No, I only have a feminine side IMO
Do you find it difficult to go back in drab after a wonderful time out?
No - Sweats and a tee are comfortable.
Do you dress as the target gender because it feels more normal?
It feels comfortable, but so don't sweats and a tee. I guess I haven't noticed
a difference
Are you serious about your appearance in the target gender you are presenting?
I am always serious about my appearance, too much sometimes.
What is your opinion on dressing properly according to your age for the gender you present?
I try damn hard not to grab at the clothes in the young miss' dept. But it is
difficult. I guess its the kid in me. so my opinion is...I can understand it.
Anyone care to give any tips and suggestions?
I suggest the word 'crossdressing' be added to the
'ugliest word you know' thread if it hasn't been already. ;D
Nicole
Oh I like that. I don't understand the word cross-dressing. When I'm wearing female identified attire I'm wearing my normal sex orientated clothes. Since I am recognised physically as male at work - and I cannot change that until I leave, I have to cross-dress to work. But I think that has lost in the thread.
Do I feel sexually aroused, no, but sometimes I feel very sexy; like to turn a guy on! I think that's normal female response.
Cindy James
Yes I want it all - Even if I cannot have it
Quote from: Nicole_M on February 17, 2009, 11:22:07 PM
What is your opinion on dressing properly according to your age for the gender you present?
I try damn hard not to grab at the clothes in the young miss' dept. But it is
difficult. I guess its the kid in me. so my opinion is...I can understand it.
Isn't that the truth? :laugh: I love looking, their just so dang cute, but I know I'm way too old for that style.
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Nicole
Oh I like that. I don't understand the word cross-dressing. When I'm wearing female identified attire I'm wearing my normal sex orientated clothes. Since I am recognised physically as male at work - and I cannot change that until I leave, I have to cross-dress to work. But I think that has lost in the thread.
Do I feel sexually aroused, no, but sometimes I feel very sexy; like to turn a guy on! I think that's normal female response.
Cindy James
Yes I want it all - Even if I cannot have it
Anyone who is comfortable referring to cross-dressing as something that they do is fine.
I see it as I am dressing masculine (like you, I also have to at times), or I am
dressing feminine, which is my preferred attire and reflects how I feel.
But even if I wear masculine clothes I still feel feminine, the clothes are just clothes
and don't change how I feel...Except when it comes to sexy, You said exactly what I
meant with the second question, I like to feel attractive...I like to be attractive.
I like sexy....
Post Merge: February 18, 2009, 06:56:12 PM
OK... I like to answer the questions before I read the rest of the posts, now I understand this threads intent....
...guess you know where I am on the gender spectrum. :)
Hi Nicole
Yes I still feel completely female in guy's clothes. But it's not want I want to be. It's really strange; I wear female underwear always, I wear "female" jeans. Have too, for the hip size! I often wear female blouses instead of a shirt. Conservative ones, so I don't frighten the squirrels.
But .............
Maybe I'm weird
Cindy James
I think these types of questions are good they help foster communication imo.
Having said that I wear what ever I feel like wearing @ the moment.
Today since it is only 17° it will be jeans sweater boots and a scarf.
Just to be certain that I am not misunderstood,
I do not have anything against people who switch between gender roles,
whether it be by clothing, expression, attitude, etc...
I just wish there was a better word to use besides 'cross dressing'
It sounds so forbidden, and as strange as it may sound I would be more
offended being called a cross dresser than I would being called a transsexual...
but I don't like to be called that either....reality bites :(
Sorry Cindy James if you thought I meant something else. :icon_flower:
Hi Nicol, I understood what you said. But you are right, some here have got a mite hot under the collar on the subject of cross dressing and thank you for coming back to explain. It is a topic that needs discussing and I do pray that there are no misunderstanding, so that we may continue the discussion.
Since we are aware that this topic could be like walking on thin ice we all need to tread easy, at least until someone can come up with some more trans appropriate labels. Even the word transsexual has been kind of trashed by the media.
I believe that the labeling should be left up to the professional medical researchers. at least you could count on them coming up with some antiseptic word to be added to the medical dictionary that would be a mile long and takes you a day or two to untangle the tongue after trying to wrap your tongue around it. There would be no way of missing that word as being unique to trans people. ;)
Cindy
I dunno about leaving the naming up to the researcher types. They are to blame for "transsexual" (ick) and many of the others. The problem with the labels, besides being silly labels, is they are too clinical sounding, imo.
This is marketing, baby. We need a better image and it all starts with branding. What we need is a cute name, and I believe this task should be given to poets, or writers of beautiful prose- not nerds in labcoats.
Not that I have anything against nerds. In fact I find them cute as hell :P.
Do you cross dress just for the thrill or the fun of it? No now that I'm in transition for me cross dressing would be if i dressed as him. Even when i have to be him i wear woman's jeans, sneakers, clear polish, rings, etc, you get the idea. I'm a little more than androgynous in appearance.
Do you cross dress to get sexually aroused ? No
Do you cross dress to get in touch with your feminine side? Doesn't matter how I'm dressed my feminine side is there 24/7.
Do you find it difficult to go back in drab after a wonderful time out? Yes and after a not so wonderful night out too.
Do you dress as the target gender because it feels more normal? Yes and woman's clothes are more fun and colorful, guys clothes are dull.
Are you serious about your appearance in the target gender you are presenting? Absolutely, i worry if I'm going to pass but never have any problems.
What is your opinion on dressing properly according to your age for the gender you resent? I think it's really important, it allows me fit in better.
Do you cross dress just for the thrill or the fun of it?
No. I dress because it lets me outwardly present the image I feel inside.
Do you cross dress to get sexually aroused
No. That's not to say I have not been sexual while dressed.
Do you cross dress to get in touch with your feminine side?
In a way I suppose. I think I am always "in touch" with my feminine side, dressing lets me express it more and maybe feel more female.
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Do you find it difficult to go back in drab after a wonderful time out?
Oh yes.
Do you dress as the target gender because it feels more normal?
Yes.
Are you serious about your appearance in the target gender you are presenting?
I try to be, though am certainly not passable.
What is your opinion on dressing properly according to your age for the gender you present? As much as I would like to dress as a cute 20 yo, I know that I can't! LOL.
Jen
QuoteThis is marketing, baby. We need a better image and it all starts with branding. What we need is a cute name, and I believe this task should be given to poets, or writers of beautiful prose- not nerds in labcoats.
I do so agree. Wasn't aware it was the researchers that came out with the present labels we have to begin with, but anyway that was what I meant. We need something that is unique and can't be misinterpreted except for what they presently label as M to F trans. transforming into having body and soul congruent to one another. At peace with who we are.
Cindy
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Do you cross dress just for the thrill or the fun of it?
Do you cross dress to get sexually aroused
Do you cross dress to get in touch with your feminine side?
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Do you find it difficult to go back in drab after a wonderful time out?
Do you dress as the target gender because it feels more normal?
Are you serious about your appearance in the target gender you are presenting?
What is your opinion on dressing properly according to your age for the gender you present?
Anyone care to give any tips and suggestions?
Cindy
This is obviously a ->-bleeped-<- aimed thread as transsexuals do not 'dress' to get sexually exited or for a thrill. My clothes are my everyday clothes and I don't wear male clothes or have thoughts about clothes in general.
I present as female at all times for many years and to me it's natural and instictive, but then again I'm not a ->-bleeped-<- so I find the thread quite insulting by appearing in the M to F section.
Cindy, if a person has a female neurological gender identity (female mind/brain), and she wears the attire of her gender identification...is that "cross-dressing"? ;)
tink :icon_chick:
Hi Tink hon :icon_wave:
Nope we are who we knew ourselves to be within from earliest age in memory.
I separated the two categories with a dotted line above, is CD oriented questions, and below is TS. I sometimes wonder if anyone truly knows the difference and it appears that all who have responded to this thread know the difference.
Just speaking for myself I would classify myself an alien in a strange land under the TG umbrella, just as much as having transitioned from TS to woman, except that I do know what having been TS is about because I have experienced the GID before in my past anatomic history.
Cindy
Quote from: Tink on February 25, 2009, 07:41:05 PM
Cindy, if a person has a female neurological gender identity (female mind/brain), and she wears the attire of her gender identification...is that "cross-dressing"? ;)
tink :icon_chick:
Not at all Tink and you are absolutely right. I've never been percieved as a cross dresser and wear my normal everyday clothes which are female.
There seems to be many people confused as to wether they are a ->-bleeped-<- or transsexual. I think this thread should be in the ->-bleeped-<- section.
Considering the nature of the questions, and the depth of responses, I think there's very little confusion. Quite the opposite, actually. I think the thread is rather clarifying, and fine where it is.
Dress because it is very enjoyable and it definitely allows me to be in touch with my feminine side. Wish I could do it daily. Mostly I dress according to my age (54) however, I did go out once recently in a miniskirt and fishnets. Genevieve
Do you cross dress just for the thrill or the fun of it? - Sure, why not!
Do you cross dress to get sexually aroused - To do that to others sometimes!
Do you cross dress to get in touch with your feminine side? - Not really, don't need clothes for that.
Do you find it difficult to go back in drab after a wonderful time out? - Don't get the question...? What's "drab"?
Do you dress as the target gender because it feels more normal? - The so-called target gender dresses in many different ways, there is no normal way for anyone to dress IMO.
Are you serious about your appearance in the target gender you are presenting? - Never serious about most things. :)
What is your opinion on dressing properly according to your age for the gender you present? - Couldn't care less!
Anyone care to give any tips and suggestions? - Sure, dress to feel good and make others feel good whatever that may be. For example at the moment I'm at home wearing a really beautiful Indonesian sarong from Kalimantan (Borneo), it's very feminine, dark purple, indigo blue with stylised pink and purple flowers. It happens to be a man's tube sarong (!), so is that cross dressing or just being comfortable?
It doesn't matter IMO, any man could walk into any Mosque in Indonesia wearing a sarong like this and no one would even notice. Everything is subjective.
I saw this topic and read through it. I was going to pass on a reply as it had some things in it that I didn't think were worded in a way to get a valid response. Then I noticed, Cindy, you were following the postings fairly closely so it seemed a reasonable thing to toss in a few opinions.
I am MTF and transitioning, and finishing my third month, so I am not anexpert by any means on the transitioning part. I DID crossdress for over 50 years and so I can address that. I also have a very good friend who claims to be androgyne so we have discussed a lot of the quetions you cover, just in working her through the idea if she is or isn't really transsexual. Here goes:
Do you cross dress just for the thrill or the fun of it?
Easy answer - no, I stopped "cross dressing" when I found out my true nature was transsexual, and I went through my cross dressing wardrobe with a new understanding and removed all the clothing and items I felt were not appropriate to me as a woman. I have determined to dress appropriately for my gender, my age, for modern styles, and for the seasons. Its fun to finally be able to dress as I want, yes. I am thrilled to be able to dress as I see myself. But I dress and forget I have on anything else except what I feel is appropriate.
Do you cross dress to get sexually aroused.
I will admit, when I started puberty, I would become aroused when dressed. But it was because I saw myself in the correct gender at last, and it was exciting to think I was actually female enough appearing to pass and attract male attention. I never thought to masterbate when I was younger and dressed - that came after I left college. As I started what I thought was cross dressing at age eight, there was no arousal at first. There is no arousal now.
Do you cross dress to get in touch with your feminine side?
No I dress to express myself as female, my birthright. There is no real feminine side to me, only me as a person. I feel more feminine when dressed appropriately, but its not the reason I dress.
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Do you find it difficult to go back in drab after a wonderful time out?
I don't really understand this question as I never have 'a wondeful time out.' I can say when I have to dress Monday morning in what I affectional now call 'male drag,' it hurts. I am out at work to my bosses, but because of job concerns I am asked to be subtle. I am really awaiting the HRT to finish its work so I can remedy this. I dress appropriately and go out. But it is not to display, its to buy groceries or mail a package. I do try to look nice at restaurants and such.
Do you dress as the target gender because it feels more normal?
Target gender? I dress as a woman because I am a woman. The male body I live in is under remodel. Feel more normal? My mother would dress in old jeans, boots and sweatshirts to work in the yard. She would dress in slacks and blouse and comfortable shoes to clean the house. She would put on a better grade of clothing to go to the store,and add a little color to her face. Thats normal. That's how I look at normal. I don't have a target gender I suppose, as I am me.
Are you serious about your appearance in the target gender you are presenting?
Do I want to be considered a woman when I dress? Yes. Do I like being mistaken as male? No. I would be a fool if I didn't want to be considered an attractive woman, I mean that is what a woman likes to be. So I try to make certain the cues are there. I just want to be a woman and not a curiosity.
What is your opinion on dressing properly according to your age for the gender you present?
Absolutely essential. Plus women will defend a well dressed T-woman who is doing her best to be a credit to her gender. Dressing as a tart or as a sex-pot will get the scorn of womankind regardless of who is doing it. Women dress to impress other women and to feel good about ourselves.
Anyone care to give any tips and suggestions?
Yes. Buy good quality clothing and accessories. Dress appropriately , and if you need to, watch all those women around you about your age and social level to see how to dress and act. ALWAYS be neatly groomed. Smile as you are a beautiful woman and proud of it. No person but you can bring you down. It is your birthright to be yourself
Elizabeth
You answered all the questions fairly closely as I would have.
The questions were geared for beginners and others who claim and believe they are TS but may be a little confused as to what being TS, GID and what transitioning to be the target gender truly entails.
Target gender, simply means the gender you are transitioning to be.
It is easy to become mired or confused in the terminology of being TS and other terminologies such as you will encounter in other classifications under the TG banner.
In drab means to be dressed in male clothes.
Cross Dressing is to cross dress from female to male clothes or from male to female clothes. Being transsexual I believe we all did the cross dressing thing up until the time we come out and live full time dressed for the proper gender we present.
To dress in the gender we present can be in jeans and sweat shirt and rubber boots for working in the back yard. Heck, I love working in the back yard, I have seen me work in the back yard wearing such garments as sweat shirt jeans and rubber boots well as a sun dress when pushing a lawn mower during the hot weather.
Going into town for appointments or grocery shopping or going to meetings of course I'm like any other red blooded Canadian girl, I love dressing up nice like. We just dress for what ever the occasion is. It's nice to make some men's heads turn as I walk by for an old bird like me that is good ;D
Like for me this was one of the things that tore me apart, having to switch back to male mode, in drab, after living 70% of the time as female. It got to the point of being suicidal and this was where I came out full time.
The final part of our physical transition from TS to be as much a woman as medical science can make you comes in the form of SRS our friend GID will not relent until we have gone through all of the phases of transition including the final process of psychological transition.
Cindy
Not all male clothes are that bad.
I do draw the line however at suits, shirts and ties and at dressing male to go to a club etc.
That said I did dress up in a suit and cut cut my hair short for the first time in my life last summer. Got married in a Muslim country in front of 1,000 guests with a proper traditional religious ceremony (Akad Nikah). Had a "choice" of a suit or being bare chested Javanese style, the suit seemed the safer option! ;D
At this point I feel kind of gross if I *don't* have at least one piece of feminine clothing on. I don't have a whole lot though so it's hard. Luckily a bunch of new stuff is coming in the mail tomorrow. I really love sales.
Quote from: Vesper on March 10, 2009, 06:58:59 PM
At this point I feel kind of gross if I *don't* have at least one piece of feminine clothing on. I don't have a whole lot though so it's hard. Luckily a bunch of new stuff is coming in the mail tomorrow. I really love sales.
I do, a Javanese male sarong!
A label thread, how fun. But now that I've written this I notice the thread is quite old. So I'll just go ahead and post this-and see, as there is some things that have not been written, so maybe I'm different. Then it is probably a good idea to post this. But generally I find these questions to be difficult. Since I feel there is multiple answers to each question. And not one thing that is constant. As reasons and feelings change. So this is just what popped down in my head.
So first my short answers, then the long ones, explanations you can say(more serious and depressed).
Do you cross dress just for the thrill or the fun of it?Fun part was way higher when I as a teenager, not so much now. Mostly comfort.
Do you cross dress to get sexually arousedNope, but might be aroused if dressed.
Do you cross dress to get in touch with your feminine side?Just that the clothes I use fits better
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Do you find it difficult to go back in drab after a wonderful time out?Hmm-usually use mens clothes, read pants, when it is needed for preservation of some peoples feelings. I do find it difficult to change just for this. Maybe pointless, like why, something like that.
Do you dress as the target gender because it feels more normal?Yes, it is a question of comfort.
Are you serious about your appearance in the target gender you are presenting?Try to, but my weak colorvision make me often mismatch things. But try my best.
What is your opinion on dressing properly according to your age for the gender you present? I dress casually, in a feminine way. Mostly skirts-that is so liberating-and my
right has always been stolen. I find on womans forums that my taste is often the same as most. Like shorter skirt means thicker pantyhose. Things like that, I follow those
rules as they make sense to me.
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QuoteDo you cross dress just for the thrill or the fun of it?
I dont really crossdress. I use clothes, what fits best for me. Fun is always important. But that is just to figure out what. That is forgotten when I am dressed. But I can spontaneously laugh if my skirt swirls around me, by wind or just the fabric. The sensations does good for me.
QuoteDo you cross dress to get sexually aroused
First time I masturbated was not in woman clothes. And I have used those as long as I can remember. But I did find out somewhere that orgasms came easier if I was dressed. And related to that part I discovered was that for a few hours after having orgasm, I did not mind being around people, and so aware of my gender issues. So i'd be able to function. So I always do an orgasm before I go out to meet people. Then I am much more pleasant and relaxed. And I stay disconnected from the body. But oh, is it tiring..
But generally I cant remember that dressing pretty have made me
excited. That only happens when I sit down and start to fantasise. And to get excited I need to have a certain feeling, Clothes help get this feeling, like a catalysis. With other people it is usually only if I sense that they truly are exited with ME, the mental connection. I'm very little concrete in this regard. But I like having orgasms. I thought for the longest time, I discovered on this board that this was not the case, that I would loose my ability to have orgasm if I transitioned. And sometimes that is the only thing that make me get past the days. It is quite normal for me to nothing else the whole day, maybe up to 10 times. The penis might be bleeding, but don't care about that. It is like a decease at times. It is also that I am afraid of the testosterone working on my body. So if I continue doing this it does not work on my body, but goes out instead.
I notice that when I am on these boards, and others and there is interesting discussions. Then this masturbation feeling mostly go away, and I can stay away from it for maybe days. That is a wonderful feeling. I'm probably coming of as a perverted ->-bleeped-<- now. But that is just the way it is. I have to do this, and way to often, to get it out of my system. The actual orgasm I enjoy, since it is an electric thing that go through my body, I can feel it in my toes, fingers and everywhere. The ejaculation is kind of pathetic, it just comes out a little. I'm seriously unsure if it even works properly. And the hours after it is like bliss.
QuoteDo you cross dress to get in touch with your feminine side?
Never thought about it like that. I usually go out to monitor other peoples reactions. To find out what people notice, what they don't notice and so on. And feel disgust about, generally what is normal and what is not. I just know what clothes I like, so the rest has to do with other people. And then me finding a compromise.
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QuoteDo you find it difficult to go back in drab after a wonderful time out?
Clothes are clothes, but it is something you use every day of your whole life. So I am under no illusion that it does not have a huge impact on you as a person. But for most people I think lots of these things go past in the unconsciousness, but the impact is just as big-they dont seem to have the awareness-since they have not been confronted with it-and that is usually what make you thing about stuff. And this is an awareness that is very unhealthy for me at least-it is not how it is supposed to be, this I have found out from observing other people. I have some men clothes I really like. But I don't have much mens clothes left. As male clothes I normally just use some addidas jogging pants, or something similar. They are practical, but I dislike them none the less, since I don't think they are pretty. And I think they make me more ugly then I really am.
QuoteDo you dress as the target gender because it feels more normal?
Yes, that and they hide and enhance on the right places. Like I have a slim waist. And all male clothes I've tried I swim in. Clothes should fit, that is the most important thing in my opinion.
QuoteAre you serious about your appearance in the target gender you are presenting?
I'm serious in the way that I try not to be offending. And I hope that the first impression give the other one a good feeling, something pleasant to put their eye on. That is always what I try to do. I don't have any other agenda. I like to feel sexy also. They can make sexual connections. But then they are on thin ice and must be very careful for not scaring me away. I try to not give of sexual vibes, but still be pretty. So I guess there should not be a open sexual connection before they have managed to take my dress of. I notice there is girls that play openly on sexuality. I don't do this. But maybe I could if I was more secure. It does look like those that do have fun with it.
QuoteWhat is your opinion on dressing properly according to your age for the gender you present?
Well, I'm 31, I look at those the same age as me. And I find that most of those that have same taste as me in clothes dress similar. I'm more modest. I don't use skirts just below the ass. Or pants showing everything. Almost like pantyhose without a skirt. I don't mind them doing it. But I would not do it. Some things are pretty, some are not. Seems to be fairly universal, I go for the pretty things. Other people have different agendas. I'd probably change if I go through with this, and want more. But so far, all I need is for people to relate to me, that is all I ask. And for that to happen I guess I need to change what is between me and the clothes. Or maybe I can say the first set of clothes, throw those and get some appropriate.
Maybe one comment on the end. I dress approximately 50% for my self and 50% for others when I can. As I actually like and enjoy dressing with a feminine style. Something I notice lots of ordinary woman dont do, but not all, many dress mostly for others it seems. So even if I am alone, i'd like to look pretty. But comfy first.
I have lots of clothes in my closets, but just some few of it I use regularly-and my style has been remarkably similar the whole time. I even have a good portion of sexy lingerie that I have gotten on impulse. But never use it. I have tried garterbelt and stockings under the skirt outside a few days. But I dont know. It was fun the first time. But I've found it is no point when no one can appreciate it or know about it. So much prefer a normal thick pantyhose. I like the idea of having them though, since I hope I will mature one day, to use these stuff, but still I feel like a child, but maybe someday I'll grow up :)
I don't cross dress. I dress appropriately for my female gender.
Quoteut generally I cant remember that dressing pretty have made me excited. That only happens when I sit down and start to fantasise. And to get excited I need to have a certain feeling, Clothes help get this feeling, like a catalysis. With other people it is usually only if I sense that they truly are exited with ME, the mental connection. I'm very little concrete in this regard. But I like having orgasms. I thought for the longest time, I discovered on this board that this was not the case, that I would loose my ability to have orgasm if I transitioned. And sometimes that is the only thing that make me get past the days. It is quite normal for me to nothing else the whole day, maybe up to 10 times. The penis might be bleeding, but don't care about that. It is like a decease at times. It is also that I am afraid of the testosterone working on my body. So if I continue doing this it does not work on my body, but goes out instead.
Hmmmm It might be that many TS are to embarrassed to talk about this topic with others, even other TS.
I was as you mentioned lived for the orgasm before I began transitioning. It actually felt like a curse more then anything I could call a release. It felt more like I was a slave to the holy weenie.
After I began HRT, hormone therapy, the urge eased up and I was no longer a slave to the holy weenie. Mind you after a couple of years on HRT the weenie tends to remain limp, but still get some honest to goodness out of this world orgasms, dry orgasms. Even now post-op I get some really intense orgasms. You don't need a limp weenie to have orgasms.
QuoteI have lots of clothes in my closets, but just some few of it I use regularly-and my style has been remarkably similar the whole time. I even have a good portion of sexy lingerie that I have gotten on impulse. But never use it. I have tried garterbelt and stockings under the skirt outside a few days. But I dont know. It was fun the first time. But I've found it is no point when no one can appreciate it or know about it. So much prefer a normal thick pantyhose. I like the idea of having them though, since I hope I will mature one day, to use these stuff, but still I feel like a child, but maybe someday I'll grow up :)
Hun I don't think that makes you much different then most other Tgirls on this board during their early part of their transitioning. You learn in time more about the styles an fashions that suit you through experience observation and comparison as you progress along during transition
Cindy
Re: Cross Dressing or dressing for the target gender? what does that mean?
I'm transsexual, therefor I don't cross dress and female atire is the normal proceedure for me.
As do I Naturally Blonde, but in previous years before coming out full time and dressing in privacy as the (target gender) the desired gender (female). Then going out dressed or presenting as male for the rest of the world, this is called cross dressing. I believe most of us have cross dressed on ocasion at one time or another before coming out full time.
After nine years living in the female role it is also normal for me to dress as a female without second thinking it, except for what should I wear today? Like something that is pleasing to me but also what I know will be attractive or pleasing to others. It is wonderful feeling to get compliments from others about our appearance, and there aint nothing wrong with that, it's woman thing eh. ;D
Cindy
I'm not trying to point fingers or cause controversy, I was just lurking and thought this was interesting! :D I was thinking, "Okay, so what IS crossdressing" (at least in my terms, not the dictionary definition, or whatever) and I came to a conclusion that 'crossdressing' is pretty much just a term for wearing clothing that is opposite to the clothing that the stereotypical male or female 'should' wear.
So I'm a born female, I own a lot of clothes from the young women's department, I own quite a bit that would be considered "unisex", like T-shirts and hats and stuff, but I also own some clothes from the young men's department (Hey, sometimes I want a pair of pants that actually COVER my rear end and are comfortable!)
So my thinking is, why get so caught up in what is stereotypically 'right' for you to wear? I understand that many women's tops are made to fit women's curves or whatever, but let's face it, some of us are a lot more curvy than others, or curvier in different places, not everyone has the same body ratio. Heck, my mom doesn't understand how I can wear men's jeans 'because they aren't made to fit your hips like women's are', but somehow I make it work, and it's more comfortable for me than a lot of women's jeans that are made SO tight and LOW! Why not just wear what YOU are most comfortable in? Why worry if something is feminine or masculine and just wear what makes you feel most like YOU?
Just my two cents!
But of course hun, wear what you feel comfortable in, I feel comfortable in stereotypical women's clothes, always did, for a good many years when i was in the comfort of my home or visiting another town where no one knew me. I believe I passed quite well, no one paid me to much attention.
But even when I wore men's clothes it was dress pants and dress shirts or sports shirts, and patent leather shoes or Oxford shoes. Even when I was going through the lowest point of my life living on the street I was meticulous about being clean shaved, and wearing clean dress pants and dress shirts, Oxford shoes and of course my brief case, I carried everything in that brief case like a purse.
Unfortunately there is also the fact that some TS have difficulty passing as females and wearing, not overdone but something that is more appropriately female looking goes a long ways of helping them to appear more like the female gender.
For example I was at a voice therapy class with my mate last night and one of the girls was crying and said that the security person called her a sir. She said she was getting it all the time. Well I takes a look at her and she's wearing jeans that looked much like men's jeans when you really don't have that much hips anyway. She was wearing a halter top but didn't have much in the way of boobs. She also wore a sweater over it, a sweater that could have been a mans sweater in appearance. And the voice.... well at least she was in the right place to do something about that. Stereotype shmereotype, if you wish to look like a horse then you better wear a horse suit at least.
Some TS girls may have an the advantage of looking incredibly like the gender they have chosen to be and still look like they are girls even if they were wearing farmers coveralls and knee high gum rubber boots, a straw hat, and chawin the chawin tobaccie and walking like a lumberjack holding a Mcculluck chainsaw over their shoulder and driving a monster truck.
Some of us are not that lucky.
There is no target gender. could care less
Quote from: colormyworld on April 21, 2009, 11:40:37 PM
I'm not trying to point fingers or cause controversy, I was just lurking and thought this was interesting! :D I was thinking, "Okay, so what IS crossdressing" (at least in my terms, not the dictionary definition, or whatever) and I came to a conclusion that 'crossdressing' is pretty much just a term for wearing clothing that is opposite to the clothing that the stereotypical male or female 'should' wear.
So I'm a born female, I own a lot of clothes from the young women's department, I own quite a bit that would be considered "unisex", like T-shirts and hats and stuff, but I also own some clothes from the young men's department (Hey, sometimes I want a pair of pants that actually COVER my rear end and are comfortable!)
So my thinking is, why get so caught up in what is stereotypically 'right' for you to wear? I understand that many women's tops are made to fit women's curves or whatever, but let's face it, some of us are a lot more curvy than others, or curvier in different places, not everyone has the same body ratio. Heck, my mom doesn't understand how I can wear men's jeans 'because they aren't made to fit your hips like women's are', but somehow I make it work, and it's more comfortable for me than a lot of women's jeans that are made SO tight and LOW! Why not just wear what YOU are most comfortable in? Why worry if something is feminine or masculine and just wear what makes you feel most like YOU?
Just my two cents!
Have to say I agree with you :)
I live with two lesbians and they dress pretty much anyway as do I.
Personally I think a mixed or androgynous look looks cool and sexy and in my case far more feminine than if I was to dress up in what's generally considered a "traditional" female way.
The only time I really dress feminine is to go out to a club with friends and then it's more for a laugh than anything else.
Being male, female, masculine or feminine is more than just about gender specific clothes IMHO.