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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Female to male transsexual talk (FTM) => Topic started by: JakeGrimm on March 20, 2009, 11:54:04 PM

Title: Quick question
Post by: JakeGrimm on March 20, 2009, 11:54:04 PM
I have this anal habit about needing to have every last detail planned. LOL. Well, I was wondering how much it will all cost? In general/a guestament. not counting therapy. So, for the T, and the top surgery, and... I dunno what I'm gonna do for down there.
Sorry if this is a hard/annoying/impossible question.
Title: Re: Quick question
Post by: Dennis on March 21, 2009, 01:35:19 AM
It depends. Where do you live? In the US or elsewhere. If in the US, then you gotta pay for it all. If in Canada or the UK, you get to take your choice of waiting lists or paying.

Me, Canadian, I paid about 16k for chest surgery, (CDN$) including flights to the US for me and a caregiver and accommodations. Everything else was covered. I only paid for the chest surgery because it was a four year waiting list. Oh, except that I pay for T, which is about $40 for 10 weeks worth.

Dennis
Title: Re: Quick question
Post by: JakeGrimm on March 21, 2009, 01:47:46 AM
I live in the US. Would I have to live in Canada to get on the waiting lists? lol
How much T would I be buying?
Title: Re: Quick question
Post by: Lachlann on March 21, 2009, 02:47:21 AM
Quote from: Jake Grimm on March 21, 2009, 01:47:46 AM
I live in the US. Would I have to live in Canada to get on the waiting lists? lol
How much T would I be buying?

Waiting list in Canada means that you're going through it by using the government paid healthcare, aka 'free'. Only way to do that is to be a citizen, but that doesn't apply to private practise which is faster but you have to pay.

I don't know if we're allowed to give out numbers on how much T you would be buying. Hormones, aren't expensive, it's the therapy that is.
Title: Re: Quick question
Post by: JakeGrimm on March 21, 2009, 03:00:05 AM
Ohhh. That makes sense. Lol.
And, that does too. But thank you anyways, ^.^

so, in general, I'm looking to put in about maybe 17k for all of it?
Title: Re: Quick question
Post by: icontact on March 22, 2009, 01:22:55 PM
You can find costs of T at ftmtransition.com, keep in mind it's just costs for one guy, but I'd assume your costs are similar.

16k for a top surgery is ridiculous, I don't know where the heck Dennis needed to pay that much. Top surgery will run you 10k AT THE MOST, generally they're about 8-9k.
Title: Re: Quick question
Post by: JakeGrimm on March 22, 2009, 01:33:42 PM
I'm on my way there *nods* Ty ^.^
Well, he said he also paid for flights and accommodations for him and his caregiver. So the flight and sleeping arrangements on top of the surgery could push it that high up I guess... o.O lol.
Title: Re: Quick question
Post by: Dennis on March 22, 2009, 04:25:22 PM
Quote from: Asher on March 22, 2009, 01:22:55 PM
You can find costs of T at ftmtransition.com, keep in mind it's just costs for one guy, but I'd assume your costs are similar.

16k for a top surgery is ridiculous, I don't know where the heck Dennis needed to pay that much. Top surgery will run you 10k AT THE MOST, generally they're about 8-9k.

The exchange rate was really bad when I had top surgery - that's Canadian dollars. And it includes airfaire for two (which is insane in Canada) and accommodations for two in SF in the high season. The actual surgery was 7.5k USD.

Dennis
Title: Re: Quick question
Post by: Luc on March 22, 2009, 07:06:44 PM
I don't know anything about costs for bottom surgery, since I never intend to do anything about that. However, my testosterone costs $60 for 4 months, and that's from Costco, not from mail-order; of course, you have to factor in that you'll have to see the doctor a couple times before getting the initial scrip, and quite possibly will be back in the doctor's office every time you need a refill. If you're anywhere near a low-income clinic and are low-income, you could pay anywhere from nothing to $50 for each visit.

As per top surgery, I hear Brownstein charges $8000; the two I'm looking into, Johnson and Garramone, charge $6000 and $5700, respectively. There are plenty of very qualified top surgeons in the U.S., so you don't have to worry about the prohibitive costs of international travel... and U.S. flight costs have been gradually declining over the past year or two. Overall, we're a lot luckier than MtFs on the cost of transition... without bottom surgery factored in for us, anyway.

SD
Title: Re: Quick question
Post by: JakeGrimm on March 22, 2009, 08:14:47 PM
Costco sells T? o.O Lol, that's interesting. I think we have a free clinic around here somewhere. I'll just have to ask around. I wasn't sure if they would prescribe me.

Hmm. Okay, so, it just depends on who I go to and where. Lol. Thank you. ^.^
Title: Re: Quick question
Post by: Luc on March 23, 2009, 07:42:49 PM
Yep, Costco sells T. Their pharmacy is available to anyone, whether you have a Costco card or not. But don't quote me on the price... when I was living in California, I bought my T at Costco for $90. In Colorado, it's $60. It's possible they have different prices at stores in different states... but I'm hoping they just lowered the price. Oh, and make sure they give you the generic brand. It's quite likely no different from any name brand, and certainly cheaper.

Oh, another thing (yeah, I'm all over the place today)... I don't know if they do this where you are in Cali, but when I was living in Santa Cruz, the Planned Parenthood offices there offered free healthcare to transfolk. That's how I got my T scrip in the first place, as well as all the bloodwork that was required to start it. There's a particular set of Planned Parenthood offices in California that participate in that program, all grouped under the name Planned Parenthood Mar Monte. Might want to check it out... otherwise I'd advise the nearest free clinic.

SD
Title: Re: Quick question
Post by: JakeGrimm on March 23, 2009, 09:43:31 PM
Interesting. Lol. I'll be sure to check them out when ever I get that far. ^.^

hehe, that's alright. Uhm, I can ask around and see if we have one of those in town. I'll ask tomorrow after getting finger printed for the foodstamp thing... o.O But, thank you very much. I'll check it out. <3
Title: Re: Quick question
Post by: Jamie on March 24, 2009, 05:01:33 AM
I know a lot of guys from USA and other countries in Europe come in Belgrade to do the surgery. I could find out how much it costs, if you want...

In Belgrade we have some of the top surgeons for transsexual people...
And I don't know how many surgeries you have to perform to finish the bottom, but our team do it all at once.... I've heard that is one of the reasons why a lot of people come here to do it...
Title: Re: Quick question
Post by: JakeGrimm on March 24, 2009, 11:55:36 AM
http://www.medical-tourism-in-thailand.com/sex-change-gender-transformation-ftm.html (http://www.medical-tourism-in-thailand.com/sex-change-gender-transformation-ftm.html)

^ those guys?
Title: Re: Quick question
Post by: Andrew on March 25, 2009, 12:07:24 AM
Some pharmacies will let you fax a prescription in and then mail it to you. I use Strohecker's Pharmacy in Portland -- I think a lot of transpeople do, since hormones/fertility are their specialty. I live in Oregon when I'm not in college, but when I am, I have them mail it to me. They're cheap, too. Forty-five bucks gets you a four-month supply.

The therapy will be a bit more expensive, although if you have health insurance, it'll probably cover it. (If so, your therapist won't bill it as trans-related, of course.) Chest surgery? Hoo boy. Save those pennies. Mine cost around six or seven thousand, not including travel and accomodation.
Title: Re: Quick question
Post by: JakeGrimm on March 25, 2009, 12:32:41 AM
Well, checked them online http://www.stroheckersrx.com/htf.html (http://www.stroheckersrx.com/htf.html)  are these the same people you got yours through?

I've been looking for an online therapist to go to, since theres none here in Hesperia, CA that specialize in gender... But, my search in a therapist is really... bad. LOL
I  "think" I'm going to http://www.transgenderflorida.com/ (http://www.transgenderflorida.com/) for the top surgery. Not sure. Lol. But, yeah, I'm expecting to pay a lot for the surgery and all that.

<3
Title: Re: Quick question
Post by: Jamie on March 25, 2009, 05:39:16 PM
Quote from: Jake Grimm on March 24, 2009, 11:55:36 AM
http://www.medical-tourism-in-thailand.com/sex-change-gender-transformation-ftm.html (http://www.medical-tourism-in-thailand.com/sex-change-gender-transformation-ftm.html)

^ those guys?

Yes, Dr.Sava leads one team of surgeons in Belgrade... He works in both Belgrade and Thailand. He's just great! There's also Dr. Miroslav Dj.
Title: Re: Quick question
Post by: Andrew on March 25, 2009, 06:09:12 PM
Quote from: Jake Grimm on March 25, 2009, 12:32:41 AM
Well, checked them online http://www.stroheckersrx.com/htf.html (http://www.stroheckersrx.com/htf.html)  are these the same people you got yours through?

Yep, that's them. They'll mail it out to you with needles and everything.
Title: Re: Quick question
Post by: JakeGrimm on March 25, 2009, 06:24:29 PM
Ah, well, it'd be fun to travel out of country. Lol. But I doubt I'd be able to.

Lol, alright. Well, I'll keep them in mind. Ty. ^.^
Title: Re: Quick question
Post by: Randy on March 26, 2009, 09:40:35 AM
According to my calculations (I'm pre-op), so far I've spent in the neighborhood of 3,000 bucks.

$2500 in transition-related doctor's appointments
$330 in name change/new ids
$100 in hormones
$60 in binders

That's not including a probable 6-8 thousand in top surgery plus however many billions of dollars bottom surgery will run me. BUT, it's worth every penny. :)

Sorry, re-reading...
Minus therapy that brings the total down to...
about $600 so far... Damn I never really thought about how much all this is really costing me until now  :-\. If I'd been born cis-gendered I'd be rich!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cost of transitioning
Post by: julia2640 on March 26, 2009, 10:41:32 AM
Hi,

I am a fully transitioned MTF.  This is not a simple question, because there are so many options.  For instance, you may or may not find that you need/want breast enhancement surgery.  If you have a light beard, you will need less electrolysis.  If you aren't going bald that will save money.  I will give you a range and assume that you have not yet begin gender identity therapy or hormones.  I will also assume that you do not need facial feminization surgery (but will show that cost separated out).  It will cost you a minimum of about $50,000 going the cheapest possible way.  FFS is a different story.  I had mine done in two steps by Dr Ousterhout in San Francisco for about $68,000 total.  For my transition, I needed everything except breast enhancement and I ended up spending close to $200,000.  Hope this helps.
Julia
http://www.transsexualconsultingandreferrals.com (http://www.transsexualconsultingandreferrals.com)
Title: Re: Quick question
Post by: JakeGrimm on March 26, 2009, 03:01:19 PM
Randy: Lol, sweet. Thank you! What was the $600 for? Sorry, I'm slow. lol.


Julia: Well, I'm not sure if this helps. I'm going the opposite direction than you went. I'm FTM.
Title: Re: Quick question
Post by: Randy on March 26, 2009, 09:28:09 PM
Quote from: Jake Grimm on March 26, 2009, 03:01:19 PM
Randy: Lol, sweet. Thank you! What was the $600 for? Sorry, I'm slow. lol.

My original total with therapy came to about $3,000. If you cut out the therapy, that goes down to about $600. But that's just me, if you're not like me (i.e. not screwed up in the head  :D) therapy probably won't cost you that much.

So, minus any surgeries, for me about:
Transition without therapy = $600
Transition with only required therapy (how much I needed to get hormones) = $1380
Current transition in total = $3000

But of course things will vary, like how much your therapist charges, how much your county charges for a name change, and how much hormones will run you.
Title: Re: Quick question
Post by: JakeGrimm on March 26, 2009, 09:47:03 PM
Ohhh, okay. Kewl. Thank you! ^.^
Title: Re: Quick question
Post by: Kayden on March 31, 2009, 06:05:49 AM
I would like to note that everyone is giving a one time purchase T price.  You're likely going to be paying for T for the rest of your life unless you go off of it at some point so how much you spend on T will depend on how long you live.

So, if a vial of T costs $100 for example, that's until you run out and buy more.  No one seems to be mentioning this.  You've got to factor way more in for testosterone that one vial/bottle/tube/whatever.
Title: Re: Quick question
Post by: Randy on March 31, 2009, 09:05:06 AM
I only wrote in one because I was noting how much transition has cost me so far. I've yet to use up the first vial.
Title: Re: Quick question
Post by: JakeGrimm on March 31, 2009, 01:54:59 PM
Quote from: Kayden on March 31, 2009, 06:05:49 AM
I would like to note that everyone is giving a one time purchase T price.  You're likely going to be paying for T for the rest of your life unless you go off of it at some point so how much you spend on T will depend on how long you live.

So, if a vial of T costs $100 for example, that's until you run out and buy more.  No one seems to be mentioning this.  You've got to factor way more in for testosterone that one vial/bottle/tube/whatever.

Ohhh. Right. Yeah, wasn't sure how long I'd need it. But, makes sense that it'd be forever. Lol. ty.
Title: Re: Quick question
Post by: Kayden on March 31, 2009, 03:51:27 PM
Quote from: Randy on March 31, 2009, 09:05:06 AM
I only wrote in one because I was noting how much transition has cost me so far. I've yet to use up the first vial.

I wasn't picking on you specifically.  I just looked back and the fact that I picked $100 for hormones was completely arbitrary to the fact that it cost you $100.  I chose it because someone I know pays that much.  Many other people only included the one vial of T.
Title: Re: Quick question
Post by: Luc on April 01, 2009, 06:50:42 PM
Yes, but if you're paying $60 a vial, and each vial lasts 4 months (unless you're using too much), that means you're only paying $180 a year. My wife pays about $300 a month when she's on HRT... that's $3600 a year. Massive difference.

SD
Title: Re: Quick question
Post by: JakeGrimm on April 01, 2009, 08:39:20 PM
woooo, math. o.O lol!