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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Male to female transsexual talk (MTF) => Topic started by: Renate on September 08, 2009, 07:02:59 AM

Poll
Question: How hard is/was tucking?
Option 1: Easy and obvious, I discovered it myself votes: 34
Option 2: Easy and obvious once I heard about it votes: 19
Option 3: A bit uncomfortable votes: 12
Option 4: Pretty uncomfortable votes: 9
Option 5: Painful votes: 2
Option 6: Impossible votes: 9
Option 7: Other votes: 7
Title: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: Renate on September 08, 2009, 07:02:59 AM
How hard is/was tucking?
Did you discover it yourself?
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: GinaDouglas on September 08, 2009, 12:55:40 PM
Actually, my nuts were slow to drop in the first place.  It was a concern for my mother.  Several times, over the years, one would pop up on it's own.  The first time, I was rather concerned, wondering what happened to it, but it didn't take much poking around to find it, pop it out, and back again a few times, to make sure there was not something real strange going on.  So, I never had a problem with this element, and now, on hormones almost 3 years, with the shrinkage, there is no discomfort at all.

I answered it was something I had to learn, because the other elements (forming a tube with the empty scrotal sac to prevent the nuts from dropping out) did not occur to me.

I will say, I can tuck for days at a time with no discomfort.  Sit, stand, dance, with no slippage or discomfort.  It feels perfectly natural, and more comfortable than having that junk flopping around.
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: lizbeth on September 08, 2009, 12:58:23 PM
easy and obvious. discovered it myself (although it was totally by accident the first time, and it scared me!)
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: Autumn on September 08, 2009, 01:35:21 PM
Very difficult sometimes. I end up using two or three pairs of really small panties to tuck when I do it. I try to avoid it as much as possible as I'm not fulltime.
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: K8 on September 08, 2009, 08:41:18 PM
I've done it for many years.  It was just the way I was most comfortable physically (and psychologically, perhaps).  I even asked my doctor once if I was causing myself injury (no).  He already knew I was a crossdresser.  A few years later, when I asked him for hormones he was hardly surprised. :)

- Kate
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: sd on September 08, 2009, 09:15:49 PM
Extremely difficult.
It took me a while to find where they slipped into. I have heard a few people with stronger muscles in that area have trouble or can't. I have big muscled down there and they aren't exactly on the small side.

When I finally did find where, it wasn't the most comfortable thing. Very tight (almost painful) and keeping them there is a challenge. Extra panties, tape, Stephie Gaph... Nothing has yet to be proven effective for longer than 45 about minutes, especially if I am active at all. I can get by with just pushing things down with tight panties in most cases luckily.

I'm still really early but figured the sooner I got used to this and figured it out the better. Considering the trouble, it's a good thing I did.
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: aurora17 on September 08, 2009, 11:03:56 PM
Well, I don't tuck...
It's too small for that anyway  ;D
But, yes, it's still a bulge down there. Small, but still...
I usually wear girdles in addition to my panties, to flatten the area...
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: Hannah on September 08, 2009, 11:53:34 PM
I've noticed over the past few months that the hormones have made it both easier yet unnecessary from a cosmetic point of view. I think it's a combination of the growth in the mons fat pad and the shrinking of the malignancy. However there's something about the pressure from the girdle or support panties that I find reassuring, and even though 'it' has shrunk to no more than loose skin I still feel the need to wear those things.

Quote from: Dee_pntx on September 08, 2009, 09:30:30 PM
And honey, I plan to use it.  I'm not getting a twat just to store tumbleweeds, cobwebs and spare change.  Ya know?

You better believe it, preach on sister!
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: CharleneT on September 09, 2009, 10:42:58 AM
I'm with the minority on this one, it is hard for me to keep 'em up.  Getting there is easy, but they just do not like to stay tucked away.  I have tried many ways but it doesn't work well.  Lots of tape is the only way that I can get it to work for even 30 or 45 minutes.  If I'm dancing, not even 1 minute.
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: K8 on September 09, 2009, 03:35:43 PM
Quote from: CharleneT on September 09, 2009, 10:42:58 AM
I'm with the minority on this one, it is hard for me to keep 'em up.  Getting there is easy, but they just do not like to stay tucked away.  I have tried many ways but it doesn't work well.  Lots of tape is the only way that I can get it to work for even 30 or 45 minutes.  If I'm dancing, not even 1 minute.

Charlene,
When I asked my doctor about tucking he pointed out that I have a twisted something-or-other on one side of the scrotum and that it could be easily corrected with minor surgery.  He said that way they would both stay in their little caves by themselves.  He didn't do the surgery himself but recommended some kind of specialist (plastic surgeon?).  I wasn't interested because my underwear would keep them in place, so I've forgotten the details.

You might ask your doctor about this.  If you're interested I can give my doctor a call and see if I can get the information from him that he gave me those years ago but I forgot (sorry :P).

- Kate
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: Ms Bev on September 09, 2009, 08:39:47 PM
Quote from: Dee_pntx on September 08, 2009, 09:30:30 PM

............I'm not getting a twat just to store tumbleweeds, cobwebs and spare change.  Ya know?   :P


*Sputter.....choke...*
Dee, you know the ROFLAO?

When I read this.....I did.  I hurt my butt!  I also spewed espresso on the monitor!

Well, if you're wrong, you'll know where to find the car keys.....!



Bev
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: Cadence Jean on September 09, 2009, 08:45:23 PM
Rightey is always a good boy, but leftey never wants to play fair.>:I  I'm hoping HRT will improve matters, and if not, there's always an orchiectomy!
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: sd on September 10, 2009, 01:29:36 AM
Quote from: K8 on September 09, 2009, 03:35:43 PM
Charlene,
When I asked my doctor about tucking he pointed out that I have a twisted something-or-other on one side of the scrotum and that it could be easily corrected with minor surgery.  He said that way they would both stay in their little caves by themselves.  He didn't do the surgery himself but recommended some kind of specialist (plastic surgeon?).  I wasn't interested because my underwear would keep them in place, so I've forgotten the details.

You might ask your doctor about this.  If you're interested I can give my doctor a call and see if I can get the information from him that he gave me those years ago but I forgot (sorry :P).

- Kate
If a doc goes in there for anything, I'm leaving with 2 less organs. Best fix for those cords and tucking is removal.  :D
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: Chrissty on September 10, 2009, 02:16:43 AM
Back in the "old days" I discovered it for myself.. ::)

For years I thought I was weird, before I discovered how common it was in the community. ::)

I have no problem getting them up there.... ;)

.....but I have a problem with stopping their "tall" friend joining them... :o

..I even tried "superglue" once in desperation.. :o :o :o

Chrissty

Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: tgirljuliewilson on September 10, 2009, 11:33:47 AM
Tucking everything under, and then using a maxi pad to hold things in place until I could slip on the control top of an old pair of hose (once they would run, I'd cut the legs off and just use the top portion) on to seal the deal.  Sometimes needing two of the control tops, but hey, that helped keep my tummy flat anyway....

It felt perfectly natural, and to be able to sleep on my stomach without anything getting in the way was awesome.
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: MaggieB on September 10, 2009, 02:20:32 PM
I used light control panties and a mini-pad to keep everything in place. For a while, I didn't tuck the "twig" in between my legs because it acted like a turtle and barely showed but later I just moved what is left of it between my legs and it almost disappeared.  No tape and never had any popping out.  Now post orchi, it is a dream.  Everything is so much smaller and the skin is so much softer. I can wear any panties now but I am so used to a mini-pad that I feel naked without it.  With no bulges, in my underwear, nobody could tell that I wasn't a GG.  Not that I am going to go out and test it...

Maggie
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: lizbeth on September 10, 2009, 09:42:13 PM
I was never really well endowed to begin with, so that's probably why I consider it easy. like Dee I worry that this might be a problem when it comes to grs, but in the mean time, it makes my life much easier!

the first time it happened really freaked me out though. I was tucked the way you would see in silence of the lambs since that's the only way that I had ever heard it described and it was always VERY uncomfortable until one time I sat down and everything just sort of popped up into place. I totally paniced and thought I did some major damage or somthing, but then I stood up and everything just fell back to (what was then) normal. since it was an accident, I had no idea how to make it happen again for a few weeks until I finally figured out the method to do it again without causing discomfort. that was at around 14 or 15 I think, but maybe a few years later.

to the girls that get abdominal pain while tucked, I used to as well but found that if I worked on my posture more the pain would go away. YMMV of course.
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: Naturally Blonde on September 11, 2009, 07:20:52 AM
I don't 'Tuck' but I can understand the reason for it in some cases.
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: Cadence Jean on September 13, 2009, 12:47:52 PM
Quote from: Naturally Blonde on September 11, 2009, 07:20:52 AM
I don't 'Tuck' but I can understand the reason for it in some cases.

Hey, Naturally - I'd like to hear your reasoning for this.  Tucking for me is kind of pain in the, well - nuts, and I keep thinking: what's the big deal?  If I go out somewhere, how many men or women would actually admit to looking at my crotch anyway?  Of course, this would be assuming that everything else in my image was passable.  It seems like tight jeans kind of keep everything in place and allow for only a small bulge(which, for whatever bizarre reason, I think is kind of cute), but with dresses it's a bit too obvious not to do something about it.  I'm just starting to fully explore dressing and stealthing(if that is a word!), so this post might scream to the world my ignorance, but I'd like to hear the opinions of some of the girls here.  Why tuck if you're in a safe environment(like a LGBT bar, or a house party where you're with friends and they know your history), or if you're "in the wild" but have strength in numbers?
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: Hannah on September 13, 2009, 12:55:51 PM
It just feels right. It's not even really necessary anymore and I still do, just for the security I guess. Even though an unexpected erecton is next to impossible through the hrt shield, can you imagine being out in your nicest skirt and getting one, Omigawd. Just don't trust that thing, never will.
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: maidenprincess on September 13, 2009, 01:00:58 PM
I used to not in the beginning because I thought it'd be uncomfortable, and I'd just wear a long tank top to cover that area.  But now I don't go anywhere without tucking.  It just feels wrong to have it all just there like that.  It's not the most comfortable thing in the world but I don't even think about it when I'm out and about.  It's necessary to me.
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: K8 on September 13, 2009, 06:56:24 PM
I've done it for years.  It is habit.  It is how I am most comfortable.  I do not resent the fact that I have that junk, but the idea of any bulge there is repugnant to me.  I don't do it for others or for presentation but to be comfortable with myself.

As always, your results may vary. :-\

- Kate
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: Jeneva on September 14, 2009, 01:02:01 PM
I "found" it around 10 also.  I used to push everything back and try to hold the scrotal skin over top to hide it.

They push back up with no pain at all.  I always try to pin between my legs but a lot of the time it retracts also.  If I wear looser clothing then sometimes when the other part retracts they are able to fall back down since the scrotum isn't pinned back anymore.  I try to stay tucked all the time.

How does everyone else with the invert/retract issue deal with it?  When retracted the other part is only a small lump, but it still isn't as flat as tucked between and if they fall down its totally obvious.  Its not that I'm worried about discovery since we've agreed that no one seems me properly dressed, but its mentally uncomfortable.
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: Steph2003 on September 14, 2009, 02:37:40 PM
I've been tucking since I was a kid.  BTW, did any of you girls have "that thing" get a bend to it?

I always tucked one way, and it seems that "its" bent in that direction!
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: Janet_Girl on September 15, 2009, 03:08:38 AM
I just fell into it by complete accident and it was so natural.  I have done it for years now, in and out of dressing.


Janet
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: Cadence Jean on September 15, 2009, 08:25:47 PM
Quote from: Becca on September 13, 2009, 12:55:51 PM
It just feels right. It's not even really necessary anymore and I still do, just for the security I guess. Even though an unexpected erecton is next to impossible through the hrt shield, can you imagine being out in your nicest skirt and getting one, Omigawd. Just don't trust that thing, never will.

Whew!  Yeah - good point, Becca.  I hadn't even thought of that!  I knew there was a reason I asked that question!:)
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: CharleneT on October 12, 2009, 10:43:38 AM
My minority status has just changed (prev post). 

I've not even tried to tuck in a few months due to lack of success.... went to an art opening last Friday evening.  I wore a close fitting dress and so had to do something... tried it again and voila'  worked just fine.  I guess the HRT has shrunk my testicles enough that they now will stay up ( before they just pushed down no matter what).  Well... that was very cool !!  I used tape and all, over the weekend I tried it again and now it seems it will work with just panties sometimes ( depends on how long and movement).

WOW, totally cool !!

Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: wabbit2 on October 16, 2009, 11:45:12 PM
Can't say its hard (Excuse the pun); especially having been on HRT for some years now.  Probably helps that I was never particularly big in the first place.  Also pays to pick the right underwear!! Boyshorts I find are generally the best for this :)
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: Coatl on October 16, 2009, 11:52:27 PM
Quote from: K8 on September 13, 2009, 06:56:24 PM
I've done it for years.  It is habit.  It is how I am most comfortable.  I do not resent the fact that I have that junk, but the idea of any bulge there is repugnant to me.  I don't do it for others or for presentation but to be comfortable with myself.

As always, your results may vary. :-\

- Kate

My thoughts exactly, it is a great way to be a little more comfortable with myself to compensate for the disgust of having it. i haven't done it very long, but it is becoming more and more comfortable. Just seeing the difference in that area makes it worth while, its also decently comfortable for some reason.
And to answer how i learned.. well the concept of it was obvious to me for years, but i waited till i knew someone who could give me advice so i didn't accidentally do something ide regret later from inexperience.
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: mzmartipants on October 17, 2009, 01:02:25 AM
Quote from: beth~chella on September 10, 2009, 09:42:13 PM
I was never really well endowed to begin with, so that's probably why I consider it easy.

That's my worry too. I've never tucked (never had to) because I'm so small to begin with. Upsides when I have it but when i have surgery I know it'll be graft time for sure.
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: Nigella on October 17, 2009, 03:36:29 PM
Like some here, I found out by accident around the age of ten and been doing it for years with no problems and when I wear tight pants they seem to go up by themselves, lol. Also the long thing can be pushed in side and kept there with pants, I may be perculier in that respect and I have not had the nerve to ask anyone in my support group if they can do the same. Would be interested if any one else is able to tuck in that way. So estentially everything is inside with my nickers on and I can even wear bikini bottoms and of course top when not sunbathing topless, lol.

Stardust
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: Chrissty on October 17, 2009, 03:38:53 PM
Quote from: stardust on October 17, 2009, 03:36:29 PM
Also the long thing can be pushed in side and kept there with pants, I may be perculier in that respect and I have not had the nerve to ask anyone in my support group if they can do the same.
Stardust

Shhh.. I have the same "problem"... ::)

Chrissty
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: kytheragraves on October 19, 2009, 03:58:12 PM
Pre-op I was really paranoid about tucking. I wore panties that were a size too small, since they held things down a bit better. On top of that, I wore Spanx all the time to hide any hint of a bulge. Before I found Spanx, I wore Hanes Body Beautiful capri shapers. Before the shapers, I wore pantyhose one size too small and cut off the legs.

But no matter what I wore, I still felt like my pelvis didn't look quite right. I couldn't smooth everything away. I walked around slightly hunched because I was afraid of people noticing something.

Post-op, for a short time I found myself reaching to tuck as I stood up from the toilet. A split second later, I'd realize there was nothing to tuck and feel extremely relieved by this fact.

Now my pelvis looks right in jeans, and I stand up straight, but I have all these redundant pairs of Spanx.
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: Autumn on October 20, 2009, 07:53:47 PM
I was never small of stature, so tucking didn't really work. I tried a few times. I spent like $60 on gaffs. I duct taped (AURGHHHH.) I wore 2-3 pairs of panties. I wore undersized panties. I gave up.

An acquaintance is returning from overseas and made clear that he likes to see girls in g-strings. I kind of laughed to myself knowing that the two or so pairs of XS ones that I bought from Forever21, hoping that they would aid in the tuck, failed miserably and more made the appearance of a pair of coconuts hanging from a banana.

I went to the corner of my closet where "Girl things that do not fit because your body isn't girly enough" go and pulled them out, and... I wore one today. I did not think I could ever wear a pair of underwear that small. Where the hell does everything go to?

Before pulling pants on and moving about for a while, the appearance looked *really* comforting. Almost realistic. Eventually on side sort of slipped out, but they've only shrunk a little since I started HRT. What an exciting thing to look forward to.
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: Naturally Blonde on October 21, 2009, 07:46:08 PM
Quote from: calliope on September 13, 2009, 12:47:52 PM
Hey, Naturally - I'd like to hear your reasoning for this.  Tucking for me is kind of pain in the, well - nuts, and I keep thinking: what's the big deal?  If I go out somewhere, how many men or women would actually admit to looking at my crotch anyway?  Of course, this would be assuming that everything else in my image was passable.  It seems like tight jeans kind of keep everything in place and allow for only a small bulge(which, for whatever bizarre reason, I think is kind of cute), but with dresses it's a bit too obvious not to do something about it.  I'm just starting to fully explore dressing and stealthing(if that is a word!), so this post might scream to the world my ignorance, but I'd like to hear the opinions of some of the girls here.  Why tuck if you're in a safe environment(like a LGBT bar, or a house party where you're with friends and they know your history), or if you're "in the wild" but have strength in numbers?

I don't tuck and would fund it pretty painful hon. I have a different method which I use for tight jeans etc (PM me for details). I always prefer to wear tight jeans and I've been stealth for many years.
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: ohRikki on October 24, 2009, 07:43:14 PM
my testicles have alwayswent back in so tucking was easy for me and worked really well. After 7 months of HRT things have gotten a lot smaller so tucking is almost not an issue
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: Washu Chan on October 27, 2009, 03:55:36 AM
I saw the stephiegaff article on the wiki and I made one, it is a great deal more comfortable than all the tape and tight panties I used before. Now I only need a small piece of tape and that invention and everything stays put.
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: El on October 27, 2009, 05:48:36 AM
At the risk of sounding full of fail ive never really managed to tuck successfully, the gruesome 2-some just dont seem to have holes to go back into. I must be missing something lol
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: K8 on October 27, 2009, 06:06:34 PM
Sometimes those openings either close up a bit or don't enlarge as the testicles themselves grow.  Don't feel alone: Many male-bodied people can't push those things back up inside.

- Kate
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: sd on October 28, 2009, 01:20:13 AM
Quote from: El on October 27, 2009, 05:48:36 AM
At the risk of sounding full of fail ive never really managed to tuck successfully, the gruesome 2-some just dont seem to have holes to go back into. I must be missing something lol
It took me quite  while to find them, keep searching.
Relaxing is the only way, and forcing will only cause problems.
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: lpfix2009 on October 29, 2009, 07:15:18 AM
Quote from: Renate on September 08, 2009, 07:02:59 AM
How hard is/was tucking?
Did you discover it yourself?

Oh my Renate, which kind of topic did you start!

I found out by myself different things, the best pre-hormonal tucking was to wear one panty with pantyhose cut off at the leggings to flatten and hide everything

Post-Hormonal, a simple thong and panty overlay does fine..

I willl not have that problem in April 2010 no more O_o

:)
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: cynthialee on October 29, 2009, 11:15:30 AM
There is no way this lady can tuck. Just isn't gonna happen. my assests are to bountiful to try that ever again.
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: jeanhervey on December 23, 2009, 11:01:50 AM

I have practiced tucking for many years. When I first started, the practice was shrouded in mystery. I found out the basics from the autobiography of a drag artist.
At first it was difficult to push and  keep the balls up and painful to push them up. However with practice it has  become easier.
and I now suffer no pain  I wear a gaff 12-16/24 7 days a week. Being on finasteride has caused a certain amount of size reduction and it has reduced arousal. I wear gaffs from The Breastform Store which I find to be effective and comfoftable.
I should point out thatI do not dress 7/365 but I tuck under my male exterior clothes, under which I wear tights,a thong or control briefs.
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: PamelaKim on December 28, 2009, 04:19:48 AM
I find tucking is easy once you develop your own way of doing it.
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: june bug on December 28, 2009, 06:42:05 AM
Even after orchi, tucking has been _impossible_ for me unless I wear an extremely form fitting girdle (which is totally uncomfortable, and a hassle to take off when out and about and having to pee).

I can get everything tucked no problem, but it always slips right back to the front.  Maybe it's because I'm skinny and don't really have a lot of fat to hold things in place... or maybe I'm just not finding the right kind of underwear... but yeah... I've just given up and wear long t-shirts and a big belt that kinda hide what little bulge can be seen.

Not to mention I don't go out anymore now that I'm working all the time, and with GRS hopefully right around the corner... I just gave up.  :laugh:
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: inoutallabout on December 28, 2009, 09:38:07 AM
This is like asking someone if they figured out how to blow their nose on their own, or, if they were shown.  Personally, I don't like tissues, or cheifs.  I like to use a wash rag, nice and sturdy to clear the sinuses out during a run or when it's cold outside.  That or, I just pick it.

Some people have soft noses that are easy to discharge, and can use tissues.

Some people just snort it back and never blow their nose.

See?  :D  Once you get the hang of it, then as long as it works then why not.

I never double layer as far as tucking, I don't mind the bulge, and I wear mostly skirts anyways so it's not a big deal to me.  I suppose there's methods to sitting and walking that help a whole lot, I couldn't refer to anything specific though.  Once again, just something that's picked up.

I wear small regularly, so I usually just buy extra small panties.  I've been trying to get into thongs more, but I always feel that the, "long thing," rides up a lot in them.
Title: Re: How hard is/was tucking?
Post by: K8 on December 28, 2009, 07:20:06 PM
Quote from: PamelaKim on December 28, 2009, 04:19:48 AM
I find tucking is easy once you develop your own way of doing it.

Welcome to Susan's, PamelaKim.  :icon_flower:

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