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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Male to female transsexual talk (MTF) => Topic started by: Chaos_Dagger on October 30, 2009, 10:43:57 AM

Title: Now I'm Just F**Ked
Post by: Chaos_Dagger on October 30, 2009, 10:43:57 AM
I apologise ahead of time for the long boring post, please feel free to skip it, and just let this thread die, I just needed to get it out.


  *sigh* Now what do I do?  I'm so bloody confused.  As much as I know what I am on the inside, for my wife's sake I'm fine living in a male's body as long as we're together (which is hopefully forever, but I hope that if I die and there is a heaven that I will have a proper body up there and not the one I died in).  That said one of the main reasons I'm ok with it is because as it stands right now I feel that SRS is nothing but an EXPENSIVE and time consuming costume.  Which can provide the same resaults to the public as dressing up can.  I don't say that to offend anyone or to try and change how they feel about themselves or anything like that!  If it works for you great, your most likely stronger than me!  To me, however, it seems like a waste of time and money as I want the impossible!  I want a truly female body, where as it seems to me that SRS is only a body that looks female.  I'll never have the naturally ocurring hormones, I'll never have a uterus or overies (Yes I know how painful and discusting the monthly is, but still I'd love to expierence it), I'll never have mammory glands (maybe I dunno).  Maybe all those thoughts would be put aside during therapy who knows.

  This brings me to the meat of my problems right now.  I have a membership at Carol Baker now, which means I can get my make-up done professionally once a month for free.  This means if I don't want to spend any money I can dress up and look drop-dead gorgeous once a month (twice in Novemeber thanks to my birthday).  That is a wonderful prospect to me!  However now Erica wants to move to Barrie... she's already given the Land Lord notice, and we'll be moving in with her father.  Issue number one is moving in with her father.  Sure we'll have our own little aparment type place and we don't actually HAVE to mingle with the other people of the household, but it's rude not to, and living in the same house causes issues of chances for me to dress up.  Number Two is the whole reason why we're moving to Barrie.  I hate small towns, she wants to move back home (Orillia), Barrie is a city and is close to Orillia.  This causes and issue because she'll want to be in Orillia VERY often.  Orillia is one of those towns, where EVERYONE knows you by name and can spot you from a  block away.  Ontop of that, if someone who you THOUGHT didn't know you sees you doing something, give it a day, maybe a day and a half and her whole family knows. Grandparents, Mother, Aunts, Uncles, Cousins, Neices, Nephews, Friends, EVERYONE lives there and is interconnected... and well I couldn't handle it.  Sure her family is accepting of the gay members of their family, but that doesn't mean anything.  Her grandparents (whom are basically her parents and everything to her) would say "it's just a phase" if they found out (and were accepting), but I couldn't handle the looks.  That's if they were accepting.  Thing is I'm not blood family, I'm married to their "daughter" and they are very "Man goes out and works, woman stays home an cleans the house" kinda people... it'd be disastorous!  You may ask "well what if you didn't live there, and transitioned, they would still find out."  Asnwer: They wouldn't, they aren't very good and putting two and two together unless it's happened right before their eyes, and I could (at the point that it would be needed) just bind my chest and forgo makeup and they wouldn't think anything of it when I visited... they already thought I was gay when they met me since I am more than a little feminine in the way I act.  Finally, Erica wants a baby, and well I do too!  Which means I can't start HRT until after it's born anyway lol.

  Unfortunately Erica's MPD is starting to become and issue again.  If she ends up reading this post I'm sure she'll take that sentence the wrong way >.<  so to her: "There's is nothing wrong with you, I love you all and wouldn't change a thing."  That said, the issue as such; All known personalties (save for one[unless she's changed her mind]) are ok with the thought of me transitioning, they will take me either way.  Savannah is the issue.  Not because she doesn't want me to change, she's the lesbian!  She wants me to change so badly and I love her so much.  We want to be together how we really are on the inside!  She of course... wants to hog me all to her self and not share me with any other personalties... which who could blame her but it's easier sad then done.  I have to try and keep everyone happy!  I love them all... well mostly, that brings me to MPD issue two.  A new male personalty has surfaced.  The last two were easy to deal with, as the first wasn't so much a personalty as an aparation created because one personality felt left out and lonely.  The second was EVIL (no really like, hitler Evil), and with the help of the other personalties was delt with quite quickly.  This new guy though... well I don't know much about him.  He's been out once that I know of, but he didn't say a word to me.  One of the girl's says he loves me, the problem is since he hasn't spoken (to me anyway I don't know if he's had conversations with them) it's hard to tell if he loves me like Gay love from male to male, loves my female self, or is just jealous because I have a male body.  My god is it ever confusing.  It might be ok if he loved my female self.. maybe, Savannah would be pissed lol.  Thing is the thought of being with a dude kinda irks me... even if he is occupying the body of a woman... I'm just not romantically interested in men.
Title: Re: Now I'm Just F**Ked
Post by: Dana Lane on October 30, 2009, 10:56:45 AM
I feel for you. Wouldn't moving there be a joint decision? I would probably have a panic attack or something if someone told me I was moving into that situation.
Title: Re: Now I'm Just F**Ked
Post by: Chaos_Dagger on October 30, 2009, 11:56:29 AM
Well I kinda convinced her to move down here in the first place.  She never wanted to live Orillia.  So when we moved down here I told her that if it didn't work out we could move back.  Sadly we both hate Hamilton (which we only moved to from Oakville because it was the cheapest place we could find) so I guess that counts as not working out and since I don't go back on my promises... I'm stuck
Title: Re: Now I'm Just F**Ked
Post by: Dana Lane on October 30, 2009, 12:03:17 PM
I wish there was an alternative that you both could be happy with. hugs
Title: Re: Now I'm Just F**Ked
Post by: Julie Marie on October 30, 2009, 12:33:29 PM
Quote from: Adrianna on October 30, 2009, 10:43:57 AM
That said one of the main reasons I'm ok with it is because as it stands right now I feel that SRS is nothing but an EXPENSIVE and time consuming costume.  Which can provide the same resaults to the public as dressing up can...  To me, however, it seems like a waste of time and money as I want the impossible!  I want a truly female body, where as it seems to me that SRS is only a body that looks female.  I'll never have the naturally ocurring hormones, I'll never have a uterus or overies (Yes I know how painful and discusting the monthly is, but still I'd love to expierence it), I'll never have mammory glands (maybe I dunno).  Maybe all those thoughts would be put aside during therapy who knows.

(I first want to say I thought transitioning was impossible.  No way!  No how!  I would never pass and I'd end up looking like a freak.  I'm happy to say I was wrong.  ;D)

To address physical transition -

Yes, there's a compromise.  You don't get to have your cake and eat it too.  None of us do.  But, based on my own personal experience, physical transition can, in time, accomplish an awful lot in giving you the features you want.  It just takes time (and money).

I still find myself surprised at how the changes are continuing.  I've been on HRT around 2 years & had GRS last March.  The changes are subtle but when I look at older pictures, they are noticeable.

A lot of us have said HRT is a miracle and I feel the same way.  But it takes time. 

Surgery can also have just as satisfactory results.  I had BA and I don't think anyone could tell without a thorough examination.  They look and feel totally natural.  As for the bottom, yes, there are concessions you have to make, most burdensome is dilation.  But there's a good side too, you can do anything a natal female can do, all the way to changing in a women's locker room, without funny looks or worse, like getting arrested!  :o

If transitioning is what you feel you need, don't let superficial expectations get in your way.  You won't be perfect but you could be much happier.

And remember, just as starting HRT now will take your physical development towards the feminine, not starting it now will continue your physical development more into the masculine.  HRT - the earlier, the better.

Julie
Title: Re: Now I'm Just F**Ked
Post by: K8 on October 30, 2009, 07:18:15 PM
I don't know what to tell you.  I can tell you, however, that I live in a town a bit smaller than Orillia.  At least 1,000 people here know that I am TS – or at least that I used to present male but now present female.  It is a place of few secrets, so I've had to transition in public view.  I've had no problems and doing it openly has probably helped me.  It may also help that I am considerably older than you, I don't know.  And this is a different place.  (YMMV)

Life is full of compromises.  I'll never menstruate.  I'll never get pregnant.  I'll never suckle a baby at my breast.  But every day I feel more and more that I am the woman I always thought I should have been.  I'm luckier than many.

I'll give you the standard answer.  (You don't have to listen.  Just skip to the end now.)  Talk to someone you trust about this.  Explaining your problems to another person helps you work through them.

I wish you the best in working things out, dear.

*hugs*
Kate
Title: Re: Now I'm Just F**Ked
Post by: Zelane on October 31, 2009, 12:58:12 AM
Regarding the body: You take what you can if you want to. Nothing wrong with it even if your body isnt perfect.

Its all in how you feel and need.