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I answered 50/50, but didn't we have a poll like this not too long ago?

People I don't know surprise me.

I seem to pass well enough despite my voice, but there are many times nobody really has to refer to me in the third person when talking to me so I'm not sure about those.

I pretty much pass all the time with people I don't know. Except a few weeks ago in a shop when I was crouched down looking at something on a low shelf and the security guard said "thanks love" when I shuffled out the way for him to get past. I must crouch/shuffle like a girl.

Extraordinarily rarely.
Though at target yesterday this one guy looked shocked when he got a good look at my glasses(I can't get new ones until the insurance kicks in again...Which sucks, 'cause I can't see with or without them right now!)
Baggy sweaters that hide your chest FTW!

I'll get an older person calling me "boy" if they didn't hear me talk. Again, rare (mainly 'cause I talk to myself too much. I'm not that nutty, right? lol). Stupid chest.

When i wear a frog bra, a vest, and i don't speak (hard for me i can assure you lmao) then i get stared at HARD before people (mainly employees of various stores who approach for the "how can i help you" speech) decide to use no labels.

Then i speak and it's usually "ma'am" or "miss"  :(

People walking by occasionally stare or look twice. I passed better in the fifth grade than i do now lmao - i remember running around with friends and hearing people say "is that a guy or a girl?!" and i thought it was cool as hell.

*sigh*

Still waiting for my referrals.....

I'm actually surprised my mother hasn't said anything yet - when i've got a vest or baggy sweater on over the Frog i look flat. She usually can't keep her mouth shut about stuff like that (she comments "oh, that looks too small around your chest honey" when i wear too tight shirts to bed....)
::)

Quote from: FolkFanatic on December 30, 2009, 08:45:54 AM
I'm actually surprised my mother hasn't said anything yet - when i've got a vest or baggy sweater on over the Frog i look flat. She usually can't keep her mouth shut about stuff like that (she comments "oh, that looks too small around your chest honey" when i wear too tight shirts to bed....)

Ya gotta love oblivious mothers...

I've only ever passed twice as far as I know.

I don't really pass as either usually, i never get a sir or mam
(sigh)
I would at least be happy if i got one and not nothing at all, am i right?

I donno, before T I woulda been thrilled to have nothing over a 'ma'am'. At least then in my head I could say I passed.

Random adults see me as a guy just by looks, for example one lady said "oh he (me) has the time, ask him". I also get "what's up dude" at some clothing stores by the sales people. At school I don't pass because mostly everybody already knows me, but some people admit to being confused by my gender before they met me.

I pass 98% percent of the time all of a sudden, a few months ago it was about 50/50 but now I pass all the time and people think that I am actually the age that I actually am. Haha I don't really know what happened all of a sudden but yeah, it's awesome .

100%. I come off very flamboyant gay guy. :) Been bout 1.5 years since I transitioned.

Quote from: Sameth on December 30, 2009, 03:23:25 PM
100%. I come off very flamboyant gay guy. :) Been bout 1.5 years since I transitioned.

And no testosterone?

None. I have reasons to believe I naturally produce more than average, though. My avatar is me today, and probably very similar to how I looked at the beginning of my transition, facewise at least. Absolutely no vitamins, hormones, nada. Just a binder and a haircut.

Quote from: Sameth on December 30, 2009, 03:50:07 PM
None. I have reasons to believe I naturally produce more than average, though. My avatar is me today, and probably very similar to how I looked at the beginning of my transition, facewise at least. Absolutely no vitamins, hormones, nada. Just a binder and a haircut.

That's pretty lucky then. Glad it works for you.

Yeah. Dunno, you look 100% passable in your avatar. Then again, just a pic and just a profile, but that's my opinion. Might wanna clean up the details on the haircut though. Pay close attention and there are loads of little details that you can easily change to help you pass. I've really got to start that blog about it...I've meant to for a long time now.

Quote from: Sameth on December 30, 2009, 04:05:29 PM
Yeah. Dunno, you look 100% passable in your avatar. Then again, just a pic and just a profile, but that's my opinion. Might wanna clean up the details on the haircut though. Pay close attention and there are loads of little details that you can easily change to help you pass. I've really got to start that blog about it...I've meant to for a long time now.

Thanks. Yeah, I started cutting my own hair and it's not perfect. Hey, if you start a blog send me a link then. You can't on this site (no space) or tgspot.com (bug) though.

I cut my own hair as well, don't worry, practice definitely helps. And straight hair must be infinitely more difficult, so kudos for tackling that.

Sure thing, may as well get on it right now. Ain't vacation for nothing. I remember when an older member on here started a topic about his similar blog, so I think there are ways to get around it. I'll ask the mods. And if you ever need to talk, feel free to PM and ask for other ways of communication, since I'm on Susans's very sporadically. That goes for any lurkers reading this conversation as well. :) I need to have more ftm friends.

Almost never.  Especially when I speak.

But now and again people get me right because of the way I dress (shirts and waistcoats FTW)  :laugh:

I get a lot of second looks and staring (which is kinda embarrassing) from people who don't know me (but if I speak, it's usually m'am, though sometimes they mumble it).  I passed yesterday ;D (which I posted about) so hopefully I'm doing something right.

I'd venture to say 50/50, but I've honestly got the sneaking suspicion a lot of other people don't know what gender I am.

I have passed once in my life. To a starbucks employee. And that also might have been a mishearing. :\

I usually get people staring and using no pronouns. I did pass once though, a couple days ago at a restaurant.  :P

QuoteOccasionally, happens once in a while

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Quote50/50 half of the time.

That is my honest opinion before T. Sorry I broke the rules  :-X

Jay

Hi Guys!
Just to interest you, older poll of the same:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,65895.0.html (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,65895.0.html)

I pass maybe once in 5000 times *sighs*  Hard to pass when you got DD chest crap. I don't bother binding...it ain't gonna help enough to matter.  My voice is a dead give away too :(

I pass most of the time, like 95%.  ;)

I pre-everything, don't bind...

Most of the people who see me first time call me boy and young man, stuff like that...
But I also get a lot of second looks and staring from people who are not sure in my gender.
And some people just ask (usually older people): "Are you a boy or a girl?" I hate to answer to that question... :/

Quote from: Jamie on January 03, 2010, 03:41:09 PM
"Are you a boy or a girl?" I hate to answer to that question... :/

I'd be so happy to get that question.  Better that than the constant assumption I identify as female just cos I look like one  >:(

Well seeing that I've been going to college as a guy for a whole semester now, and no one in my class has even guessed I'm trans, I put all the time.

i seem to pass when i'm not actually trying to but if i'm consciously trying to then i fail. but most people who don't know me call me sir or young man before sometimes correcting themselves

Probably about %85-%90 of the time.
Most think that I'm just a short, skinny boy.
I attribute this to the awesome fact that I am almost flat chested.
I'm also young, so nobody questions it if I look prepubescent or feminine.
When I don't pass, it's usually because I'm not wearing sunglasses (my eyes..very feminine) or they're all up in my face and staring at it.

I'm going with most of the time.

I picked "Most of the time" and 50/50.

I feel bad and lucky at the same time. I passed as a boy long before I even knew I was trans. I just look like a boy and act like a boy, the long hair before just made me look like a metal head or something of the sort. Even with chest, it was usually the chest that gave me away. Then I started binding, which I think caused some confusion and then realization that I was female when I used the girl's restroom or I was called by name.  :-\

Nowadays things are great. Binder flattens me out perfectly, short hair pushes away some doubt and then I've got a wonderfully androgynous voice to go with. I hate how good I am sometimes.  ::)

Now I understand why I'm being punished with breast growth and more female like fat distribution. YUCK!  :o

Quote from: Alessandro on January 03, 2010, 04:23:53 PM
I'd be so happy to get that question.  Better that than the constant assumption I identify as female just cos I look like one  >:(

Oh, trust me, it's not always nice...
Because most of the time I'm with some friends/family member and I hate to hear that question when I'm with someone.
I just smile and say "Girl"...   :(

And I usually hate everything and everybody for the rest of the day...  ;D

Maybe you should try to work on your appearance.
I changed just a small things, and I pass lot more now. :)

Quote from: Adam on January 03, 2010, 04:54:32 PM
Well seeing that I've been going to college as a guy for a whole semester now, and no one in my class has even guessed I'm trans, I put all the time.

this too, I am completely stealth at college.

Might I ask you college goers how you pass? I'm in college and for the most part things are impersonal and names needn't be exchanged, but it most definitely cannot be avoided. Do you have your names changed or how did you pass completely when a name was necessary? Especially with what you were called by your professors in the non-forum, meaning roughly 20-50 people sized, classes where they would learn and call your name.  ???

I would love to go stealth for Spring semester at the end of this month.    :D

Quote from: No-Name on January 05, 2010, 11:57:14 PM
Might I ask you college goers how you pass? I'm in college and for the most part things are impersonal and names needn't be exchanged, but it most definitely cannot be avoided. Do you have your names changed or how did you pass completely when a name was necessary? Especially with what you were called by your professors in the non-forum, meaning roughly 20-50 people sized, classes where they would learn and call your name.  ???

I would love to go stealth for Spring semester at the end of this month.    :D

I have passed a few joyfull times here in college... but I just dont look like an 18 year old guy, I am usually called ma'am.. *barf* I probably get pegged as a butch lesbian.. which is funny b/c I'm actually a gay guy.  I do go by Elijah at school though.

I put 50/50 and 'most people don't know'. More and more often, I get long, hard looks lately, and no pronouns used at all. I find that people who don't know me have been pegging me as male more and more often lately (still with no T). It really pays to watch your tone, inflection, manner of dress, and mannerisms.

Also, I was deflected out of a women's bathroom at a movie theatre today. Very glad at the time that none of my family was with me.

Quote from: No-Name on January 05, 2010, 11:57:14 PM
Might I ask you college goers how you pass? I'm in college and for the most part things are impersonal and names needn't be exchanged, but it most definitely cannot be avoided. Do you have your names changed or how did you pass completely when a name was necessary? Especially with what you were called by your professors in the non-forum, meaning roughly 20-50 people sized, classes where they would learn and call your name.  ???

I would love to go stealth for Spring semester at the end of this month.    :D

My college (community college) actually asked for a preferred name on the application and actually registered me as Carson instead of my legal name, so when they take role they say a male name. I would actually ask the administration of they can put your "nickname" on the role or registration instead of your legal name.

I mostly pass because of my mannerisms, I have worked really hard on my voice and can carry on a full length conversation with a bio male my own age and no one suspects anything(hah even if I screaming at my professor about how wrong he is).