Hello peep :)
I am currently making a video project debunking the most famous myths/stereotypes about transguys/girls. I am wondering if you could give me your opinions :) thanks you!
For starters:
Myth: All Trans-girls like men only.
Myth: We chose to transition to get laid.
etc.
Pls.help!
Thank you in advance.
EDIT: I've decided to play it safe and remove this post out of concerns what I said may violate the ToS
I can think of a couple that happened to me
MTF dress slutty tight mini skirts and stuff like that when I told my wife I needed to go back to wearing the girl clothes that is what she brought me. I did set her straight with that one but she stills brings some home from time to time.
I was sterotyped as a hooker (street worker) by another MTF just because she was one
One of my ex girl friends thinks that MTF only like girl stuff, movies, TV shows. I don't watch the soaps all my children, general hospital, etc... I like watching the science chanel and sci-fi chanel. Ok I do sew but I also build model railroads. I can not even think of a girl flick the last movies I saw in the theatures was 2012, angels and demons, and star wars III.
Myth: Transwomen can not do typical male stuff. i.e. Auto mechanics
Myth: Transwomen get dumb when they transition
Quote from: Janet Lynn on March 18, 2010, 12:15:24 PM
Myth: Transwomen get dumb when they transition
Got it right on that one, Janet!
I swear that I must have lost about 20 IQ points considering the way that some sales types talk to me!
I went to Radio Shack the other day to buy a new GPS and fortunately there was a woman there who was on duty and gave me all the information I needed. I had already done the research and knew which one I wanted.
I thanked her when I bought it and said that I was glad that she was there, because if it had been a man he would have felt obligated to show me how to work it! She agreed and said that the guys in the shop do that all the time and you can see the look on the females faces just wishing them to shut up and let them get what they wanted.
What is really unusual are the guys who think I have lost my hearing. They actually speak louder to women than men. That I find really weird. And irritating.
I get a kick out of sucker punching them sometimes when I out geek them.
To stay on subject:
A very common myth that I've had to contend with is that switching genders automatically changes my sexual orientation; "So, you're a girl now, how many guys have you dated?"
Another one is: "This is some sort of sexual thing for you isn't it?"
-Sandy
Myths
men become transsexuals because they are queers and want to trick you to pick you up.
Transsexual men and homosexual men are so desperate for any sex they will do it with anyone.
Any gay guy will do.
You can always tell. ;)
It's OK to beat up a transsexual because they aren't real women.
They're just perverts who fancy their mothers.
They get it cut off!!! :D
The one obvious one is all MTF Transsexuals are escorts. even girls in the community are surprised when you tell them you graduated from college and have a very good job.
That and were all dirty sluts that we sleep around with diffrent men.
Myth: There's no such thing as a trans man (FTM)
Myth: All trans men are former butch lesbians
Myth: All trans people are straight in their adopted gender
Myth: All trans people have or want genital surgery
My top myth is that "All transpeople think the same way and believe the same things about their condition" Honestly you only have to read some of the, at times almost violent discussions on here to realise that we have many very different approaches and takes on this.
My second top myth is that "being trans is a single medical condition with a single cause, and a single one size fits all approach to treatment." That's about as stupid as thinking that every single cancer sufferer should take the same drug. We aren't all the same, we may have similar symptoms, but I'll bet almost anything that in the future when the whole thing is better understood it will be realised that being transgender can be caused by a number of different things, and in some case several of them working together.
Myth: people get a "sex change;" before surgery, they're one gender, and after surgery, they're the other gender. It's all in the genitals.
Myth: All trans women are ultra femme, and like lipstick, long hair, and nail polish.
Myth: Someone being trans makes it okay to discuss their genitalia casually, in public.
Myth: Trans men are really just lesbians, and they're a tiny minority anyhow.
Myth: Someone's body is the same as their gender.
I think it is a myth that all trans people are transexuals. Just take a look at the andro section.
Straight trans men turn gay after hormones.
Trans women are just men in dresses.
Here's a few I've faced already:
Gender and sexuality are interchangeable. (Most notably with vicar going on to think this is about sex)
Transsexuals aren't/can't be true Christians.
Your birth sex determines who you are.
And, my favourite:
You just need a relationship with [opposite gender] >:(
Transwomen:
- liked boys when growing up
- played with dolls
- didn't have a father figure in their life
- are too hung up to have gay sex so they change genders
- it's all about the clothes
- it's all about the sex
Myth: Transition = Sex change surgery. (truth: a long and slow process of therapy, multiple surgeries, and hormone therapy. The hormones are for life.)
Quote from: Miniar on March 18, 2010, 06:23:43 PMhormones are for life.)
Not just for Christmas.
Sorry, I'll shut up now.
Quote from: Nemo on March 18, 2010, 06:02:38 PM
Here's a few I've faced already:
Gender and sexuality are interchangeable. (Most notably with vicar going on to think this is about sex)
Transsexuals aren't/can't be true Christians.
Your birth sex determines who you are.
And, my favourite:
You just need a relationship with [opposite gender] >:(
Isn't "true Christian" (or "true Hindu," or "true woman," or "true American," or "true vegetarian...") a myth?
It seems to me that everyone goes at these things in their own way. All too often, the idea of a "true" this or that is just an excuse for people to put each other down.
Quote from: Julie Marie on March 18, 2010, 06:15:13 PM
Transwomen:
- liked boys when growing up
- played with dolls
Hey some of us really did you know! Me for a start. :embarrassed:
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- didn't have a father figure in their life
- are too hung up to have gay sex so they change genders
- it's all about the clothes
- it's all about the sex
With you all the way on these four though :)
Myth: transsexuals have transsexual friends only
Myth: Transsexuals are perverts.
Quote from: PanoramaIsland on March 18, 2010, 06:55:25 PM
Isn't "true Christian" (or "true Hindu," or "true woman," or "true American," or "true vegetarian...") a myth?
It seems to me that everyone goes at these things in their own way. All too often, the idea of a "true" this or that is just an excuse for people to put each other down.
Actually - I agree with you.
My definition of "true Christian" is one who remembers the teaching to love each other, not judge each other or reject anyone on background, that kind of thing. Something my vicars exercised brilliantly when I spoke to them, even though they didn't understand what this is really about. But in the main, yes, we all interpret it slightly differently, be it religion or even gender. I've never seen myself as butch or whatever, but I still identify as a bloke.
Hey, that's a good one: All trans-men are butch :P
transgender/transsexual myth: there is no right or wrong way to transition.
after transitioning openly at walmart---yes there is!!! it finally came out that my transitioning WAS the REAL reason i was fired!!!
Myth: all transsexuals are Drag Queens.
Regards
Sarah B
Myth: All transsexuals aspire to become Jedi Knights.
This is not true. Some of us aspire to become Sith.
Seriously though I must not turn to the Darkside but hey give me the chance to use Force lightning and I just may turn.
Quote from: Natalie3174 on March 20, 2010, 11:56:07 PM
Myth: All transsexuals aspire to become Jedi Knights.
This is not true. Some of us aspire to become Sith.
Seriously though I must not turn to the Darkside but hey give me the chance to use Force lightning and I just may turn.
Lol.
Also: FTMs don't all transition for the male privilege.
Surgeons cannot just "make a penis." (I wish lol)
Not done for amusement/curiosity generally.
Fact: It can happen to anyone.
Myth:TG's are just like the people you see on Oprah, Springer etc.
Fact: TGs are just human beings who want to live as one.
You can not "try this out", it's not easy, it's not simple, and it's not fair.
Myth: Tg's are mythical creatures who are about as real as a fictional story character. You can treat them like dirt and they won't get hurt b/c remember... they're not real! Oh and they wear huge wigs that you could hide birds in, all like neon pink, fishnets, and listen to nothing but Madonna and disco music.
Fact: We are indeed flesh and bone. Translation: real. We have feelings just like everyone else does. We also have dreams, aspirations, and are highly f*n intelligent :)
Some myths might include: the idea that all MTFs are overly emotional and loose it in a crisis, that they are very shallow and superficial and can only talk about hair, makeup and fingernails and what Spears and Lohan have been up to lately, the worst of all - that it's ok to hit a TS because after all they are really men and should be able to take a punch.
Myth: I transitioned specifically to hurt YOU and make YOU miserable.
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Myth: If you haven't been gender dysphoric since earliest childhood, you're not a real transsexual.
Myth: "Straight" Transsexuals are not real transsexuals and are just transitioning because they want to look like the women/men they are attracted to.
Fact: Just as genetic men and women can identify as a gay or lesbian so can transpeople. Also it is ignorant and rude to call a transwoman who likes woman or transman who likes men straight, because you are linking their sexuality to their birth sex and not the gender they feel they are.
Myth: Transsexuals only transition for attention.
Fact: You mean negative attention? Like discrimination, harassment, physical abuse? And lets not forget lost friends, and the risk of your relationships and family life falling apart. Transsexuals don't want this attention (and anyone who would needs to get their marbles in check). They want to live and be accepted as the person they are on the inside.
Myth: Transwomen all die their hair bizzare colors, get piercings all over and cover themselves in tattoos and dress very provocatively.
Myth: Transwomen all want to be/ or are drag queens or butch lesbians.
Myth: TGs are just sexual deviants and child molesters
Myth: ->-bleeped-<- is a proven fact and explains everything about transsexuality.
Actually, I think the term myth isn't strong enough, I think the term "Outright, baldfaced, lie!" comes close, but there may be more descriptive terms...
-Sandy(still pissed off)
Looks like a lot has already been mentioned, but I'll say it anyways, they really bother me :laugh:
Myth: It's ok for someone who hardly knows you to ask about your sex life, your genitals, you favorite colour, whatever, just because you're a transsexual.
NO NO NO! Only people close to me can consider asking me this stuff, even then it's really none of your god damn business! You'd find it rude, well we're people too and it's rude to us also!
Myth: Transsexuals can't be gay/lesbian.
Gender has nothing to do with sexuality, completely separate. I'm a girl that likes girls, just like any other girl can be *gasp* mind-boggling I know.
Myth: Bisexual just means you're confused.
Myth: Yeah. I've heard that too. Um, I don't know, I just like both some of the time you know. But it's cool, whatever.
Myth: My brothers are gay and they told me that so it must be true.
Myth: Oh hi, I'm gay too and I also think nobody can be bisexual because I'm %100 gay. Never had a straight fantasy, not me, nope never. If you're bi, you're either closeted or confused for sure. I'm gay of course so I have a very informed opinion about this.
Myth: Yeah that's cool, I understand. I mean like everyone can have their own opinion or whatever. I don't care.
Quote from: Deanna_Renee on April 09, 2010, 10:49:38 AM
Myth: Transwomen all die their hair bizzare colors, get piercings all over and cover themselves in tattoos and dress very provocatively.
I always wanted to be a mythical creature. hehe
This thread just reminded me of something my electrolyses said to me, "I not the typical transsexual." I had to laugh, we get on really well so I asked what did she mean, she said "well, looking like men in a dress, man's voice." that's a myth I said. There's no such thing as a typical transsexual.
Now where's my pink nail polish, pink lip stick, pink shoes and pick dress,
Stardust
Myth: HRT works on everyone
Myth: Transgender is the result of absense of a father figure, and/or childhood sexual abuse.
What I believe to be the Fact: This happens to so many people that the world would have many, many more transfolk if it were the case.
Top top myth of all time;
We are sooo brave for transitioning. Because god knows we had it so good beforehand.
Before I transitioned, thats when I was brave. Thats when I had to work up the guts to go outside and face the world, to keep up an act as a male, and to ignore the nasty stares from those who were not buying it. After I transitioned, thats when life became easy and I didnt have to second guess every action beforehand and/or take deep breaths to work up the nerve.
Quote from: Danacee on April 10, 2010, 05:51:42 PM
Top top myth of all time;
Before I transitioned, thats when I was brave. Thats when I had to work up the guts to go outside and face the world, to keep up an act as a male, and to ignore the nasty stares from those who were not buying it. After I transitioned, thats when life became easy and I didnt have to second guess every action beforehand and/or take deep breaths to work up the nerve.
Amen sister!
-Sandy
hmm I didn't see this one mentioned yet (sorry if it was), but to me the biggest myth of all is that we choose to be this way, that it is nothing more than a lifestyle choice and we can just as easily choose to be "normal". Related to this is the myth that says we can be "cured" by religious intervention.
How about this one...
Myth: We were 'recruited' by other gays and/or TGs.
Thanks to the teabaggers and Sarah Palin
My fave myth is , if you come out, then anyone who has ever or will ever exist had the right to openly discuss and question your body and mind and medical history/opinions with all your friends , co workers, family and the odd guy walking down the sidewalk on a tricycle collecting cans.
Quote from: FairyGirl on April 10, 2010, 10:12:49 PM
hmm I didn't see this one mentioned yet (sorry if it was), but to me the biggest myth of all is that we choose to be this way, that it is nothing more than a lifestyle choice and we can just as easily choose to be "normal".
Boy, every time I see the word "normal" in association with trans anything, I have to laugh. My therapist says I'm normal--a normal transsexual. I'm still struggling not to think of myself as a hideous perverted freak (for being a gay trans man, not for all of that other perverted freakish stuff I do ::)) that, to me, the concept of a normal transsexual is a bit like a normal freak. Yeah, no such thing. Sigh. I guess it will take time before I think the way he does about being trans.
The funny thing is that I think I'm a freak, but I don't think other trans people are freaks just because they're trans. Yeah, I'm obviously special.
Yep Arch, you're special. We all are.
Quote from: Danacee on April 10, 2010, 05:51:42 PM
Top top myth of all time;
We are sooo brave for transitioning. Because god knows we had it so good beforehand.
Before I transitioned, thats when I was brave. Thats when I had to work up the guts to go outside and face the world, to keep up an act as a male, and to ignore the nasty stares from those who were not buying it. After I transitioned, thats when life became easy and I didnt have to second guess every action beforehand and/or take deep breaths to work up the nerve.
I totally agree with you Danacee. I got that 'your so brave' line from someone the other day. My experiences mirror your own and the male persona was the hardest thing for me to try and portray and impliment.
Myth: Prayer and finding the right scripture will cure you. You are only sinning or possessed by the devil (or something like that).
That we are porn objects who only exist to satisfy male sexuality.
Men either treat me like kryptonite or pull out a list of demands and requirements that I am supposed to fulfill, no questions asked. And sex is a given for them. If they are excited, it means that I must be excited too.
Quote from: FairyGirl on April 10, 2010, 10:12:49 PM
hmm I didn't see this one mentioned yet (sorry if it was), but to me the biggest myth of all is that we choose to be this way, that it is nothing more than a lifestyle choice and we can just as easily choose to be "normal". Related to this is the myth that says we can be "cured" by religious intervention.
Amen, FairyGirl. A couple of decades of trying to be what others expected me to be, 10,000 purges, countless hours of therapy, and resenting everything that forced me into the 'male' box, before saying "I'll risk it all to be who I am for the rest of my life"
Oh, and as Calpernia smugly states, "No, it's
not ok to ask me what my name
used to be."
The two top ones I know of are:
-->-bleeped-<-s change sex because they're confused gay people.
and
-You are male before SRS, and female afterward. (Speaking in terms of MTF, that is.)
Quote from: Firelight on April 12, 2010, 09:21:00 AM
-You are male before SRS, and female afterward. (Speaking in terms of MTF, that is.)
Actually, I thought it was more that you are male before SRS and still male after (though conspiring to make other straight guys into gays by having sex with you).
True. It's one of both of those.
Quote from: rejennyrated on March 18, 2010, 04:50:07 PM
My top myth is that "All transpeople think the same way and believe the same things about their condition" Honestly you only have to read some of the, at times almost violent discussions on here to realise that we have many very different approaches and takes on this.
My second top myth is that "being trans is a single medical condition with a single cause, and a single one size fits all approach to treatment." That's about as stupid as thinking that every single cancer sufferer should take the same drug. We aren't all the same, we may have similar symptoms, but I'll bet almost anything that in the future when the whole thing is better understood it will be realised that being transgender can be caused by a number of different things, and in some case several of them working together.
QFT (I agree totally)
Quote from: Frances on April 11, 2010, 09:16:50 AM
That we are porn objects who only exist to satisfy male sexuality.
Men either treat me like kryptonite or pull out a list of demands and requirements that I am supposed to fulfill, no questions asked. And sex is a given for them. If they are excited, it means that I must be excited too.
This is a particularly frustrating one for me. Patriarchal othering ends up shaping the image of trans people to the point that we become viewed purely as exotic sexual commodities - and this makes transmen almost entirely invisible, of course, because most men are straight and do not hold much of any interest in transmen, sexual or otherwise.
Myth: All transsexuals want genital surgery.
Recent definitional myth: Transgender people identify as the sex opposite to their birth sex.
myth: a transsexual is still a transsexual if he keeps his penis.
hm, lilacwoman, I wonder what you think of FTMs then...
Not all transexual people want lower body surgery. They are happy to live as a woman without it. This can be for many reasons, some medical. It is a pretty wide assertion to say someone is not a transexual because they have not had their bits removed. I am pre op but I am a transexual
off topic: omg! trista!! zomg!
I've watched some of your vlogs! remember the person who told you something your HD screen and a video game? xD that's me! LOL such a small world I guess n.n Did you buy MW2 to your sister?
On topic:
Myth: ALL transwomen are working on the Sex industry and are desperate for getting laid.
Myth: Transwomen are confused gay men who on't have the cojones to walk out of the closet and live as male gay people.
Myth: Transwomen can't success in life... wut?
Quote from: kyril on April 14, 2010, 12:41:20 PM
hm, lilacwoman, I wonder what you think of FTMs then...
I think FtMs with attitude who hang out in MtF forums are funny.
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myth: all FtMs who hang out in MtF forums are funny