For guys who are on testosterone, and have been on it for a while.. how big does the dick actually get.. (from testosterone only)
Does the size it start off, effect the size it will be? When did it stop growing?
Are there any things that you wish you had done, that you didnt know about? Things to make it larger?
Has the growth helped your genital dysphoria?
and one last question.. When you are hard.. and in clothes.. can you still FEEL the erection, do you realize that it is happening? Even if it is small?
Growth varies with the individual
QuoteWhen you are hard.. and in clothes.. can you still FEEL the erection, do you realize that it is happening? Even if it is small?
Yes, at least I do.
I don't mean to sound graphic but does genetics help with your growth?
I'm not on T but I can feel myself get hard. Genetics among other things will determine how big you get. There's probably a whole crap load of factors.
I'd suggest a pump...I have one and it helps. I haven't actually measured mine so I can't say but I've definitly gotten some growth that's like...woah. Probably in the 1in range. 3 months on T.
Quote from: phx_rising on May 16, 2010, 11:35:56 PM
I'd suggest a pump...I have one and it helps. I haven't actually measured mine so I can't say but I've definitly gotten some growth that's like...woah. Probably in the 1in range. 3 months on T.
I also have a pump but it does not create permanent change, just temporary.
The pumping action definitly creates a size change at the moment which doesn't last, but I believe it's helped my growth over all. I TOTALLY don't keep the size I get from pumping...but I'm totally bigger than I was. Then again, I started pumping at the same time I started T...so it's hard to say what's what. Regardless...I like it. lmao. *blushes*
I mean...I like it because I see something that resembles a penis or looks more like a penis but I usually look down there and it gets way too sensitive. Plus over time it can cause nerve damage...T is what's really making the difference. Growth is really significant within the first year.
I've never talked to anyone whose whatnot grew any larger than 3 inches, and only heard that from one person. After about 2 years on T, I'm around 2 1/2 inches. I can feel when I'm aroused, but as Kvall said, it's embedded in tissue, so a hard-on, per se... just isn't the same as for bio guys. Just be glad you don't have to worry about potentially embarrassing woody situations like most guys do.
SD
I think "all of the above" is probably the only right answer when it comes to the "What are the factors" questions.
Size pre-T, age, genetics, etc. etc. etc.
And even with all that, your results may vary.
For me, I started out a little larger than "normal". (Okay, a fair bit larger than "normal" but still...)
And all I'm hoping is to reach 7 centimeters erect, as that is the length where "micropenis" stops and "normal" starts. It's very small, but "normal".
I'll be content with that.
At 6 now..
Quote from: Nygeel on May 17, 2010, 12:07:12 AM
Plus over time it can cause nerve damage...
Only if used for too long at a time or too frequently.
For a growing penis, the pump "can" make a difference. Not a terribly big difference, but in my case, every little bit helps!
I think it can get up to about 3 or 4 inches.. and that's if you're REALLY lucky.. and pumping, in addition to being on T.
I've seen some big ones.. but most are around 1 or 2 inches.
Mine is about 2 inches, I think.
It was about the size of half a grain of rice before.. now it's about the size of the top section of my thumb.. so that's a significant growth..
And it's definitely not done growing.
I suppose if you start off super tiny or nonexistent, it won't be as big as if you start off larger than average, but it grows pretty darn big either way. You'll be surprised.
I didn't really have genital dysphoria before, though. It's made my orgasms different, easier to achieve.. and just made sex of any kind better in general, however..
I can tell when I'm hard or aroused, but it doesn't really rub against my clothes.. because I have alot of fat in the way.. lol.. perhaps if I was more lean and didn't have such massive thighs, it would rub against my clothes..
why do i find this facinating lol runs back behind the door of the boys room
Quote from: jesse on May 17, 2010, 08:22:24 AM
why do i find this facinating lol runs back behind the door of the boys room
I'm with you. I kinda feel naughty haveing read this thread.....
Quote from: jesse on May 17, 2010, 08:22:24 AM
why do i find this facinating lol runs back behind the door of the boys room
Possibly because it IS fascinating.
Only 3 months on T, but I'm at 1.5inch at the moment. Growth started within the first few days. I think I was larger than average before T though.
I intend to buy a pump at some point to try and increase/maximise growth, perhaps along with DHT cream too. Neither of which have been proved to increase your finishing size, but it's worth a shot, eh?
Miniar: F you :)
I plan on starting pumping soon even if it isn't proven to work, I don't want to take any chances. I've found one but it's over $100, does anyone know of anything cheaper, not the baby syringe though, didn't work for me?
Quote from: Ryan on May 17, 2010, 09:46:43 AM
Miniar: F you :)
So... many... bad... puns...
Seriously though!
150 days = about 5 months ish?...
There's still plenty of time to catch up :P
Mine is near to 2inches now, I think it was around average size to begin with. It doesn't look much different when erect, might get a bit bigger but I don't measure it that often. I don't bother with pumping or anything, I trust it to do its own thing.
Also when its hard I can "flex" the ligament at the top which is kinda funky.
On pumping: Keeping a pumping regiment where you pump for a certain amount of time every day, or at least regularly, will give permanent results. Pumping is a proven body modification tool. How much is gained on it depends on the person. I'm not saying it'll get as big as it does when you pump if you keep at it long enough, but it will slowly make things bigger. As said above pushing it too hard (pun not intended) will cause damage, but you are creating a little bit of tissue damage each time by stretching it out.
I'm pre-T however I do have some length. There is a definite difference when erect, mostly in girth but some length is added too. As someone else mentioned it doesn't get as hard as a bioguy's penis but I most definitely feel the erection and often find myself trying to hide my crotch if it happens in public, even though I'm not big enough for anyone else to see it through my pants. :P
Im pre t, and idk if im normal or what... but I've heard im larger than normal... I can definitely feel when I get an erection &it does get bigger for me &harder. &I also do try to hide it even though no one can see lol I get em easily. :p
I was probably on the smaller side of average Pre-T now at about 5 and a half months on T its probably about an inch long soft and an inch and a half when hard. I can definitely feel it get hard. I plan on pumping and getting dht cream when I can afford it.
What is this thing u r talking about there ain't nothing down there but the thing u pee out of. I'm not on T but I hope whatever it is doesn't grow cause that seems kinda gross. It would be just another reminder that the junks not all there.
The clitoris grows when on Testosterone as that is the part of the body that develops into the penis on bio guys. Testosterone will trigger its development.
Quote from: mcalistershaun on May 17, 2010, 04:17:16 PM
What is this thing u r talking about there ain't nothing down there but the thing u pee out of. I'm not on T but I hope whatever it is doesn't grow cause that seems kinda gross. It would be just another reminder that the junks not all there.
The dick...which is in female terms a clitoris.
Here's an anatomy picture of somebody who is physically female/FAAB (female assigned at birth).
http://legacy.owensboro.kctcs.edu/gcaplan/anat2/notes/Image695.gif (http://legacy.owensboro.kctcs.edu/gcaplan/anat2/notes/Image695.gif)
Having read this I feel slightly guilty for wanting to get rid of something y'all would kill for.
Quote from: mcalistershaun on May 17, 2010, 04:17:16 PM
What is this thing u r talking about there ain't nothing down there but the thing u pee out of.
I don't mean to be rude or anything, but did you sleep through health class? There is a LOT down there besides the urethra.
Quote from: Devin87 on May 17, 2010, 04:41:53 PM
I don't mean to be rude or anything, but did you sleep through health class? There is a LOT down there besides the urethra.
agree'd
So what is this pumping you are all talking about? What I have down there at the moment is basically a toothpick and most of it is hidden away. However I can feel the difference from when I am aroused or not. It does get harder.
So clearly you are not talking about a penis pump because that just wouldn't work. Where would you get a clit pump from? How much would something like that cost?
Quote from: Devin87 on May 17, 2010, 04:41:53 PM
I don't mean to be rude or anything, but did you sleep through health class? There is a LOT down there besides the urethra.
I was thinking the same thing. It's just a shame because my dick, even so small is one of my best friends ...
Quote from: Squirrel698 on May 17, 2010, 04:48:08 PM
So what is this pumping you are all talking about? What I have down there at the moment is basically a toothpick and most of it is hidden away. However I can feel the difference from when I am aroused or not. It does get harder.
So clearly you are not talking about a penis pump because that just wouldn't work. Where would you get a clit pump from? How much would something like that cost?
Actually, yes.
We're talking about a "penis pump".
Only, home made versions more or less.
Modified flavour injectors and such.
I had a large syringe and purchased a regular penis pump and just detatched the pumping mechanism from the cylinder it came with and attached it to "half" of my syringe (took the plunger out, attached the pump on the other end) and voila! a fully operational penis pump...
... but now it's too small, so I'm using the big cylinder, cause it came with a rather small sleeve.
_
Also, you gents in possession of the DHT creme/gel/whatever.
I'm seriously considering trying to obtain some for myself.
Are you guys happy with the thing?
There are clit pumps available, but the one I found is over $100. I was looking for something professional, but less than $100. Let me know if anyone finds one.
Here's a vid, the link is in the description.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxbFP5qzBdg# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxbFP5qzBdg#)
Many pumps come with detachable cylinders and there are several different sizes available. There are also pumps specially designed for clitoris pumping but as said above it's expensive being a specialty item. Like Miniar said there are several options such as flavor injectors and glue syringes, etc.
Quote from: Maddie Secutura on May 17, 2010, 04:40:18 PM
Having read this I feel slightly guilty for wanting to get rid of something y'all would kill for.
We could trade parts, if it were only that easy.
i know theres more down there but maybe i dont have a clitoris ive never felt anything like that just the hole and the pee thingy. its not there if it is its microscopic or something.
I'm pretty sure you have one, it may be small but it's there. It's not down near the opening but up towards the front just below the pubic hair.
Quote from: mcalistershaun on May 17, 2010, 07:22:38 PM
i know theres more down there but maybe i dont have a clitoris ive never felt anything like that just the hole and the pee thingy. its not there if it is its microscopic or something.
For some people it's very small...if you want just get a mirror. Not exactly the best idea for most guys.
theres nothing there i looked with a mirror but all there is is flat tissue skin stuff unless its suppose to be flat then it aint there
Quote from: mcalistershaun on May 17, 2010, 07:36:43 PM
theres nothing there i looked with a mirror but all there is is flat tissue skin stuff unless its suppose to be flat then it aint there
You need to pull back the clitoral hood to see it... the clit is what will grow into a small dick.
Quote from: Elijah on May 17, 2010, 07:41:12 PM
You need to pull back the clitoral hood to see it... the clit is what will grow into a small dick.
Even the hood and the stuff behind that also grows to become the foreskin and shaft.
Quote from: mcalistershaun on May 17, 2010, 07:36:43 PM
theres nothing there i looked with a mirror but all there is is flat tissue skin stuff unless its suppose to be flat then it aint there
That's the clitoral hood. The clitoris is underneath it.
This is hilarious.
Quote from: Nygeel on May 17, 2010, 07:41:58 PM
Even the hood and the stuff behind that also grows to become the foreskin and shaft.
yep.. and they say that the labia skin is similar to the skin on the scrotum.. which can ease some peoples minds a bit
Quote from: Elijah on May 17, 2010, 07:53:52 PM
yep.. and they say that the labia skin is similar to the skin on the scrotum.. which can ease some peoples minds a bit
Yep. For myself I'm pre-T and I can feel the "shaft" part and what would be the head...like there's already penisy definition. Probably about the size and thickness of my pinky from the knuckle to the tip.
Quote from: Nygeel on May 17, 2010, 07:55:47 PM
Yep. For myself I'm pre-T and I can feel the "shaft" part and what would be the head...like there's already penisy definition. Probably about the size and thickness of my pinky from the knuckle to the tip.
lucky boy lol. Mine is like the size of a pencil eraser
Quote from: Elijah on May 17, 2010, 07:58:23 PM
lucky boy lol. Mine is like the size of a pencil eraser
I mean...the head-ish part is about that big? I don't know how to describe my genitals!
Quote from: Ryan on May 17, 2010, 07:53:27 PM
This is hilarious.
lol, I know right. I found my clit with an electric toothbrush around I'd say 8 or 9. I've never been shy about my body just wished it was different.
Quote from: Elijah on May 17, 2010, 07:58:23 PM
lucky boy lol. Mine is like the size of a pencil eraser
I'm feel inadequate now. Mine is even smaller than that. At least it gets the job done and thankfully it's not done growing yet
How is this hilarious? okay maybe to u smart folk it is but how was i suppose to no there was somethin else down there. its not like it does anything it just sits there. seriously u cant pee out of it and blood dont come out of it how r u spose to know. if i wouldnt have stubbled apon this topic i wouldve never of known any of the sort existed. i hope it dont grow cause like i said it dont do nothin if i could pee out of it then let her grow, but seriously it sounds gross kinda. maybe. might be kinda cool but still. its all clitoris like. reminds me of the time i had tea and was like what hell is this crap it tastes like tea this s*** is disgusting tastes like straght up tasty a** tea.
What it does is give you wonderful orgasms. That is it's entire point which is way better than tea any day of the week.
Trust me dude I've been there. I didn't know I had one until I found a kind of "road map" on the internet then checked things out down there and was like "oh wow I didn't know I had one of those!"
But dude chances are it will grow on Testosterone, which isn't such a bad thing. As it gets bigger it becomes more penis-like.
Quote from: mcalistershaun on May 17, 2010, 08:04:03 PM
How is this hilarious? okay maybe to u smart folk it is but how was i suppose to no there was somethin else down there. its not like it does anything it just sits there. seriously u cant pee out of it and blood dont come out of it how r u spose to know. if i wouldnt have stubbled apon this topic i wouldve never of known any of the sort existed. i hope it dont grow cause like i said it dont do nothin if i could pee out of it then let her grow, but seriously it sounds gross kinda. maybe. might be kinda cool but still. its all clitoris like. reminds me of the time i had tea and was like what hell is this crap it tastes like tea this s*** is disgusting tastes like straght up tasty a** tea.
don't feel too bad.. i had a friend who didnt know that she had 3 holes.. and at least you have an excuse.. you are FTM
but the point of it growing.. is that it gives us guys more sexual gratification. makes us feel better. For me.. i cant stand the fact that there is NOTHING to grab, but one if grows, i will be able to get a grip on it and jack like a guy.
Like most oter people I found it while masturbating when I was little. And I second the motion that orgasms are much better than tea. I bet if you do some more research and allow yourself to... play around with the idea (literally)... you'll change your mind about it. :laugh:
Dude, just go look at some diagrams of the female anatomy on Google.
I don't mean to be a jerk, but either you have seriously deformed junk or you're just stupid.
well if it grows whatever but u know i think mine might be defective cause ive never orgasmed yep its broken maybe the doc accidently snipped it off when he cut the umbilical cord his hand might've slipped and in his panic decided it'd be okay if he just sewed it back on and by that time he got to it the nerves were damaged oh well i dont plan on having sex anytime soon, at all, ever. ill die a virgin its just so nasty. aids, clamidia, genital herpes, etc. doesn't sound to fun. having a tapeworm live inside of u for like 8 months and then naming cause ur so attached ur lifes over ur stuck with the thing. itll even ask u for money even when its 30yrs old.
Orgasms are mostly about your mental state with an extra push with sensations. I know some people that can orgasm without touching themselves. I know if I'm not in the right place mentally I won't be able to orgasm no matter how much I touch.
Quote from: mcalistershaun on May 17, 2010, 08:24:32 PM
well if it grows whatever but u know i think mine might be defective cause ive never orgasmed yep its broken maybe the doc accidently snipped it off when he cut the umbilical cord his hand might've slipped and in his panic decided it'd be okay if he just sewed it back on and by that time he got to it the nerves were damaged oh well i dont plan on having sex anytime soon, at all, ever. ill die a virgin its just so nasty. aids, clamidia, genital herpes, etc. doesn't sound to fun. having a tapeworm live inside of u for like 8 months and then naming cause ur so attached ur lifes over ur stuck with the thing. itll even ask u for money even when its 30yrs old.
I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry.
I think he be trollin'!
Quote from: Ryan on May 17, 2010, 08:28:22 PM
I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry.
I think he be trollin'!
I was just about to go make popcorn for this priceless show. Do you want some?
i try to put humor in my stupidness that way ppl will be laughing so hard theyll forget to call me stupid, i know im a genious yea ur jelous u didnt think of that first
I can't type for face-palming.
Quote from: Ryan on May 17, 2010, 08:36:47 PM
I can't type for face-palming.
you could do *head desk*
m(__)m
yall is jist jelous cause ur not as smart as me yea i passed human phys with a 96% but we never got to the reproductive organs so maybe thats why but ur still jealous and u know what its okay just take a deep breathe and get it all out. All that jeolusy can damage ur organs like ur liver and stuff cant live without ur gallbladder so dont wanna damage that just let it all out im here for u. u can vent on me its okay jelousy is a natural human emotion like being a genious. yea take that smart ppl with ur pent up jelousy cause ur not as smart as u thought apparently. my I.Q. was like a 23 so thats pretty intense. 8) really it was like a 110 but i like to make ppl laugh makes me feel good.
Lol yeah, I think we need a moderator in here.
I also looked back on his posts and some of the stuff he says there doesn't really match up at all.
Either way, it's bloody amusing.
And now I want a cup of tea.
Babeland carries a pump and cylinder kit online. It's not cheap, though, but it's very high quality.
wait how does it not match up? im kinda in a good mood today and i love messing with ppl i really arnt that stupid i didnt know the clitoris thing but all in all im not to stupid i hope. some areas are just a lost cause but i really enjoy making ppl laugh or even smirk to make someone forget about there problems for just one second will make my day.
Quote from: M.Grimm on May 17, 2010, 08:54:07 PM
And now I want a cup of tea.
Babeland carries a pump and cylinder kit online. It's not cheap, though, but it's very high quality.
I own it. The pump and cylinder is quality, fairly safe (you can see on a dial what the pressure is and know not to go too much too fast). Plus you can have just the cylinder on ya which I've been able to use for penetration.
Mine's grown a bit since I started the DHEA. The girth had been about as big around as my pinkie finger and now is closer to the width of my middle finger (no puns please :D ). Lengthwise, when hard, I've gone from about 3/4" to 1". I can't wait to get on T and see what happens.
Quote from: Ryan on May 17, 2010, 07:53:27 PM
This is hilarious.
lol that's what I was thinking.
Quote from: mcalistershaun on May 17, 2010, 08:24:32 PM
ill die a virgin its just so nasty.
we'll see how you think of it once you're on T. :laugh:
Don't feel stupid mcalistershaun, a lot of people don't know what's down there, especially those not interested in those parts.
As for those thinking this is hilarious, grow up. This is a serious topic and some people would appreciate a little bit of mature conversation and information. How about we get back to the point of this thread.
Being offically a week on T today ;D, I have noticed more girth than length, nothing substantial, but there is more there than when I was pre-T. I do plan on pumping, starting with the cheapest option then working my way up to the more expensive options. I would of consider myself in above average range pre-t, so we'll see how things progress.
Quote from: Hurtfulsplash on May 18, 2010, 12:31:47 AM
Don't feel stupid mcalistershaun, a lot of people don't know what's down there, especially those not interested in those parts.
As for those thinking this is hilarious, grow up. This is a serious topic and some people would appreciate a little bit of mature conversation and information. How about we get back to the point of this thread.
I don't think you understand, mcalistershaun is a troll-- ie-- he is mocking us.
Devin87 has this been turned over to a mod yet
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Now on the subject of not knowing what or where the clitoris is, Here's a map of the area. (http://content.revolutionhealth.com/contentimages/images-image_popup-ans7_vulva.jpg)
Also, around 10-15% of all natal women have never reached orgasm.
Testosterone can help with that.
Hello, no I didn't get lost....
Just wanted to add not every vagina has a clit. I have encountered 2 women in my life who didn't have it. One was completely smooth there and the other had a partialy formed hood but nothing underneth.
just sayin'
For those who have tried pumping, does that hurt while you are doing it/afterwards and how long does the effect last for? I imagine it's a very slow change?
It shouldn't hurt during, but I find that it gets a little "extra sensitive" afterwards.
The idea is that one encourages "more" growth if one pumps it while it's growing. Mine tends to appear "fatter" after each pump but then that simmers down in 20 minutes or so.
However, I've noticed that it's "fully pumped" size has grown significantly during the period that's passed since the first time I pumped.
My pattern is.
10 minutes pumping, 10 minutes rest, 10 minutes pumping, every morning and evening. (When I get up, and when I get to bed).
I use a little alarm timer, and then read or meditate while I'm pumping.
Quote from: Miniar on May 18, 2010, 07:45:10 AM
meditate while I'm pumping.
Sorry, but this gave me a mental image that made me chuckle.
Quote from: Alessandro on May 18, 2010, 07:39:18 AM
For those who have tried pumping, does that hurt while you are doing it/afterwards and how long does the effect last for? I imagine it's a very slow change?
After it hurts because it's too sensitive. The size goes back to normal (since it's gradual change) after maybe 30minutes but being overly sensitive lasts a day at least. I pumped once a week for anywhere between 5-30 minutes for a few months. I didn't notice any change.
I know it goes back to normal for the most part after pumping, but what about when aroused? Does it appear bigger (without pumping right before hand) than it did before you started pumping?
Quote from: Greg on May 18, 2010, 11:01:36 AM
Sorry, but this gave me a mental image that made me chuckle.
No need to apologize, I know that it's an "odd" combination.
Quote from: Miniar on May 18, 2010, 07:08:11 AM
Also, around 10-15% of all natal women have never reached orgasm.
Testosterone can help with that.
How do you know if you reach orgasm for sure?
Quote from: ccc on May 18, 2010, 03:21:09 PM
How do you know if you reach orgasm for sure?
Uh...you know. The way I describe some of the stages of orgasm...there's this build up of tension either in your body or just crotch/bum/thighs. The tension builds up to a certain point before your muscles relax and you feel rapid contractions with some of the muscles within your crotch (being vague, here). That's pretty much it me thinks?
Quote from: ccc on May 18, 2010, 03:21:09 PM
How do you know if you reach orgasm for sure?
Usually if you have to ask that means you never have. :( Basically you lose control of your body for a good ten seconds at least. The contractions are powerful and pleasurable and unmistakable.
Try the shower head. Lay down, put your feet in the air, point the stream at your dick and be brave. It will blow your mind.
Actually, I wouldn't expect it to "blow your mind".
Orgasm works like this.
There's a build up of "tension" which reaches a point where everything get's a little blurry, and then tension is released. When the tension is released there is "usually" spasming in the kegels (pelvic floor).
The tension also releases "enjoyable brain chemicals".
It blows my mind every time and I'm at once or twice a day.
Perhaps my mind is just easily blown. I wouldn't be a bit surprised
Quote from: Squirrel698 on May 18, 2010, 03:27:09 PM
Usually if you have to ask that means you never have. :( Basically you lose control of your body for a good ten seconds at least. The contractions are powerful and pleasurable and unmistakable.
Try the shower head. Lay down, put your feet in the air, point the stream at your dick and be brave. It will blow your mind.
Well im pretty sure I have. I just wonder how do you know for sure that you have, or exactly what it feels like, or what's supposed to happen.
The objective physical sign of orgasm that you should notice is a series of (fairly rapid, at least one per second) involuntary pelvic muscle contractions. You may also notice sudden erection of the nipples, unless you're someone whose nipples become erect any time you're turned on. Your face might flush and you might break a slight sweat. But the muscle contractions are the primary sign.
Quote from: kyril on May 18, 2010, 04:34:05 PM
The objective physical sign of orgasm that you should notice is a series of (fairly rapid, at least one per second) involuntary pelvic muscle contractions. You may also notice sudden erection of the nipples, unless you're someone whose nipples become erect any time you're turned on. Your face might flush and you might break a slight sweat. But the muscle contractions are the primary sign.
Thanks guys, I must pay more attention next time. Look out for what's going on with my body, I get distracted.
Quote from: Squirrel698 on May 18, 2010, 03:51:15 PM
It blows my mind every time and I'm at once or twice a day.
Perhaps my mind is just easily blown. I wouldn't be a bit surprised
I dunno about easily, but my mind is blown a good 2-4 times a day. Yeah I have lots of me time. Shup. I'm almost afraid of what my drive would do on T.
Quote from: Rowan on May 18, 2010, 05:45:09 PM
I dunno about easily, but my mind is blown a good 2-4 times a day. Yeah I have lots of me time. Shup. I'm almost afraid of what my drive would do on T.
My mind is hardly ever blown. Orgasms just don't seem that WOW to me. Maybe do it once a week/once every other week. My sex drive is nil...I'm hoping T will fix that but I'm afraid of getting an overwhelming sex drive that I won't know what to do with myself.
This thread is hilarious, had me laughing for a good 10 minutes. I needed a good chuckle :laugh:
On the original topic, I've been on T for 5 months now. I got growth fast in the first week or two, but it's slowed down considerably. I didn't measure myself pre-T, but I would guess I was at half a centimeter, maybe slightly more than that. Now I'm 3 cm flaccid and about 3.5 cm erect.
I want to try pumping, but I just don't have the money to buy a quality pump. I've thought about getting a brake fluid pump and attaching that to a syringe. Should be cheaper than buying a pre-made pump from a sex shop. Anyone ever tried that or heard of someone use that method?
Quote from: Miniar on May 18, 2010, 03:47:31 PM
Actually, I wouldn't expect it to "blow your mind".
Orgasm works like this.
There's a build up of "tension" which reaches a point where everything get's a little blurry, and then tension is released. When the tension is released there is "usually" spasming in the kegels (pelvic floor).
The tension also releases "enjoyable brain chemicals".
yea it doesnt blow my mind either.. it feels good.. but its not amazing
Quote from: Adio on May 18, 2010, 06:06:12 PM
This thread is hilarious, had me laughing for a good 10 minutes. I needed a good chuckle :laugh:
On the original topic, I've been on T for 5 months now. I got growth fast in the first week or two, but it's slowed down considerably. I didn't measure myself pre-T, but I would guess I was at half a centimeter, maybe slightly more than that. Now I'm 3 cm flaccid and about 3.5 cm erect.
I want to try pumping, but I just don't have the money to buy a quality pump. I've thought about getting a brake fluid pump and attaching that to a syringe. Should be cheaper than buying a pre-made pump from a sex shop. Anyone ever tried that or heard of someone use that method?
You should probably find out how much force is exerted by a brake fluid pump before trying that.
Quote from: SilverFang on May 18, 2010, 11:03:07 PM
You should probably find out how much force is exerted by a brake fluid pump before trying that.
I wish I knew. That's why I asked if anyone had heard of that before. I got the idea by looking at a picture of a pump and thinking the equipment looked familiar.
This is the clit pump from babeland:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi48.tinypic.com%2Foa23a1.jpg&hash=f1bcb6da04d1e4d27dd2022a8bf5c14c51d8fc02)
Price: $113-147 (sorry, couldn't get a larger pic)
This is a vacuum pump/brake bleed kit from amazon:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi48.tinypic.com%2F3535pcp.jpg&hash=a365d673a49c08ef9308ad89b5dba74e352ff798)
Price: $44 (plus $1-2 for the syringe)
I figure if they are basically the same thing, and I stayed within the limits of a normal pump, it would be okay.
hmmm me thinks sombady just modified a brake pump and put a higher price tag on it but i still think you need to know the pressure excerted by the brake pump because i dont even want to know how bad that will hurt if it latches on with massive pressure.
jessica
I don't think I could spend money on a pump, I just don't really have an interest. Something about pumping just gives me the creeps and I'm not sure why.
Quote from: Lachlann on May 19, 2010, 02:07:30 AM
I don't think I could spend money on a pump, I just don't really have an interest. Something about pumping just gives me the creeps and I'm not sure why.
Same, it seems painful and a little odd to me. I doubt it makes any significant difference anyway.
Okay, About the difference a pump makes.
I know it's a while since someone asks, but I'm slow to respond to certain questions, DWI.
I don't get hard often.
This is "probably" due to a combination of low blood-pressure, chronic pain, chronic fatigue, and depression.
This means I do actually have a chance of comparing erection to erection as they're "maybe" twice a week.
The difference between "flaccid" and "hard" has been expanding far faster since I started pumping.
There's a clearly visible/noticeable difference in size now, whereas about 2 months ago, the difference was almost solely one of "how squishy it is". (I am aware that I'm wording things poorly, my English is less good at early morning without sleep than it is in early afternoon with sleep, DWI.)
This "might" just be the T, but the damned thing gets harder, longer, a little wider, and sticks out a fair bit more now when hard than when not hard.
Seeing as I'm too busy being all ;D and playing with my husband every chance I get in that particular state, I haven't brought the measuring stick out for checking exactly what the difference is, but I'm getting increasingly interested in doing so.. for rather obvious reasons. (I'm a dude, I wanna know the numbers and brag where possible!)
ok i have to ask after all this is the dang thing useable or is just about the feeling that its there i hope im not offending but i have no clue. i mean i know you would still have sensation but is it usable like a penis i really dont understand why this topic facinates me speacially since i would gladly hack off mine and give it to any of you guys the most totally useless piece of tissue the human body ever wasted cells on
jessica
It can get big enough to have some "penetrative" use yes. Though most gents need some surgical work done in the area to be able to use it that way "comfortably" even if size allows for it without the surgical work.
And it is functional for sexual gratification even if it doesn't get to that size.
But just having something that one can look at and say "well that sure looks like a penis to me" even if it's "very small" is definantly a plus, at least for me.
I was just going to ask the same thing!
If it ever got big enough or w/e to where u can penetrate...
Cause that would be a big plus to make me want to go on T.
I will say that with the pump I have I can use it for penetration. Pump up my dick disconnect the pump to leave just the cylinder and take an altered cyberskin packer and put that around the pump. Put a condom around it to keep everything clean. TA-DA, something I can screw with, looks semi-realistic and does not need any sort of harness or support.
The dick I have can't be used to penetrate on its own...but I'm pre-T.
Serious!? You can penetrate your girl with it? Would it pleasure her? So I can jerk off aswell?
Well, I'm late to the party, as usual.
RE: the original post - I've been on T for a year. Started out roughly 1 1/2", now I'm up to around 2". Even though I started pretty larger than average, I haven't had much growth. All of that growth was in the first few months. It doesn't get much, if any longer when hard, but does get a fair bit thicker. It feels pretty much the same as it always did, except that now the end pokes out from under the hood, which leaves it a little over-sensitive.
If you'd like some more measurements, search for a thread I started a while back called , "slapping 'em on the table".
Quote from: jesse on May 19, 2010, 04:28:47 AM
ok i have to ask after all this is the dang thing useable or is just about the feeling that its there i hope im not offending but i have no clue. i mean i know you would still have sensation but is it usable like a penis i really dont understand why this topic facinates me speacially since i would gladly hack off mine and give it to any of you guys the most totally useless piece of tissue the human body ever wasted cells on
jessica
I think it varies a lot from person to person. Personally, all but about half an inch of mine is firmly tied down by the hood, so without surgery, it's not going to be of much use in that area. Even if I could, though, it's only about as thick as a thumb, even at its biggest, so I doubt it would do a partner much good, except, maybe, on a psychological level.
Quote from: accord03 on May 21, 2010, 05:22:01 AM
Serious!? You can penetrate your girl with it? Would it pleasure her? So I can jerk off aswell?
Late reply due to no internet for a few days. With what I've done I can jerk off (it feels pretty darn good) and use the whole thing to penetrate.
Edit to add: and I do not have a girl (gah, that phrasing is so odd)...can't say if it would work.
Quote from: Jamie-o on May 21, 2010, 06:38:40 AM..except that now the end pokes out from under the hood, which leaves it a little over-sensitive.
Yeah, it's a bit weird when it's always rubbing against your packer or underwear. It does toughen up though.
Nygeel - You said you can penetrate but it might not be possible on a girl? So, I'm confused. Wouldn't you just penetrate a girl? When you jerk off, what do you actually jerk off? I'm gonna sound noob but is it sperm? Which I highly doubt it but my girl was wondering and it made me curious too
:-\
Quote from: accord03 on May 23, 2010, 07:41:01 PM
Nygeel - You said you can penetrate but it might not be possible on a girl? So, I'm confused. Wouldn't you just penetrate a girl? When you jerk off, what do you actually jerk off? I'm gonna sound noob but is it sperm? Which I highly doubt it but my girl was wondering and it made me curious too
:-\
Perhaps I'm not into girls?
I don't know what you mean by "what do you actually jerk off" and "is it sperm"
Quote from: accord03 on May 23, 2010, 07:41:01 PM
Nygeel - You said you can penetrate but it might not be possible on a girl? So, I'm confused. Wouldn't you just penetrate a girl? When you jerk off, what do you actually jerk off? I'm gonna sound noob but is it sperm? Which I highly doubt it but my girl was wondering and it made me curious too
:-\
lol I wish injecting testosterone would make magical sperm
Me too :'(
Hmm Jerking off... sperm? Those are either some mighty big sperm or mighty small hands.
accord...
the clit will usually get large enough to jack off.. it wont be exactly the way a male does.. but it wont be a female way.. bio guys jack off with their hand in the shape of an O. FTM guys who have had growth on T usually do it with their index finger and thumb, but in the same motion a bio guy will.
and no, it will not produce sperm.. but I have heard that the lubrication from the vaginal opening begins to taste, smell like pre-cum on a bio guy, but it wont get anyone pregnant, because there is no sperm in it.
might be TMI, but I've always done thumb-and-forefinger. The girl method never felt right even when I didn't necessarily know what the problem was down there.
Quote from: kyril on May 23, 2010, 09:55:43 PM
might be TMI, but I've always done thumb-and-forefinger. The girl method never felt right even when I didn't necessarily know what the problem was down there.
you are lucky.. I have tried.. but its too small lol
bleh ok im done with this thread the guys just turned into guys big time bleh bleh bleh lol
jessica
Im with kyril lol.
Annah, just my reaction who is this maxipark anyway. Whoever it is doesn't belong here.
Yeah what a joke. If it were true we would have heard about it from 43094830 Oprah episodes and documentaries.
Quote from: Da Monkey on October 24, 2011, 01:51:16 PM
Yeah what a joke. If it were true we would have heard about it from 43094830 Oprah episodes and documentaries.
what i find mildly offensive is the fact that he writes it as if we will actually fall for it!
Quote from: Annah on October 24, 2011, 02:03:38 PM
what i find mildly offensive is the fact that he writes it as if we will actually fall for it!
Hahah I know eh, derrrp. we're not that dumb.
Quote from: Annah on October 24, 2011, 01:18:30 PM
I guess the next post you will be Jesus, the Christ?
I believe he is the reincarnation of Buddha. However, I have been wrong before.
(Sorry original post has been deleted, no quotes therefore)
Pix or it didn't happen
Sorry for the confusion, I deleted Maxiparks post, but for some reason I just saw it was there again. So I just deleted it again.
yeah that was confusing with the deletions
now I am wondering what was said....
The quotes still happen to be on another thread. The one about how tall everyone is.
LOL it wasn't a matter of falling for it, I am sharing my experience. I live in holand where being transgender is very common and very well looked in to. You could say in this subject we have the best technology and technics. The reason "Oprah" or anybody else doesn't know about this is because I don't want them too. I am perceived as a biological male, no one knows I am who I am but this forum and my family. Honestly that really was a stupid statement, do you know how many transgendered people there are out there? And only probably 1 in 20 people are open about it. The rest just want to move on with there life as if that's how they were born to be. For those of you that think this isn't possible.. They have regrown a man's penis back with stem cells, made infertile men fertile again by recreating the insides of their testes and they have grown penis' on female mice. They can also switch off you're foxl2 gene and it starts producing testosterone instead of estrogen and the ovaries become testes. This is why I no longer need testosterone treatment. I had no idea people in other countries were so ignorant and un informed. Wow.
Quote from: maxipark on October 24, 2011, 11:38:54 PM
LOL it wasn't a matter of falling for it, I am sharing my experience. I live in holand where being transgender is very common and very well looked in to. You could say in this subject we have the best technology and technics. The reason "Oprah" or anybody else doesn't know about this is because I don't want them too. I am perceived as a biological male, no one knows I am who I am but this forum and my family. Honestly that really was a stupid statement, do you know how many transgendered people there are out there? And only probably 1 in 20 people are open about it. The rest just want to move on with there life as if that's how they were born to be. For those of you that think this isn't possible.. They have regrown a man's penis back with stem cells, made infertile men fertile again by recreating the insides of their testes and they have grown penis' on female mice. They can also switch off you're foxl2 gene and it starts producing testosterone instead of estrogen and the ovaries become testes. This is why I no longer need testosterone treatment. I had no idea people in other countries were so ignorant and un informed. Wow.
maxi
Any person with an IQ over 63 knows people cannot create testicles in a flask and then make them fertile. I don't care if you live in Holland or in the Large Hadron Collider.
If it was true, barren men and women would be a thing of the past and to genetically synthesize the sperm in the artificial testicles would take decades of more genome and DNA re constructional searches that would effectively create the perfect child before it is even conceived into more than four cells. Genetic related sicknesses would be a thing of the past.
Currently, making stem cells to create sex organs is impossible. Furthermore, you asking questions on growth medications on a prior thread does not make sense since you are privy to medical advancements of science the growth question would have been easy peasy for you. Sorry. No one's falling for it. If I were you, I wouldn't keep on defending the position on this one.
Surely with such great medical advances there would be an article you could link to, to back these statements up.
Quote from: Sharky on October 24, 2011, 11:45:35 PM
Surely with such great medical advances there would be an article you could link to, to back these statements up.
I'm sure he'll say it is either top secret or was experimental and it is not available to the public. ;)
Yes, there is a similar article I have linked on my post in the other thread. Also I have now given proof to two people on this site.
Orgasm's: I have been a good friend with my clitoris since I was 10 years old, and I also am good friends with my G-Spot. So here's a few tips for those just starting out on their journey with their dick.
Its not just the pelvic floor muscle that contract when you orgasm your dick also spasms creating a rolling intense high feeling of pleasure, and most certainly once you get the hang of things, blow your mind. You can also in time learn to ejaculate. I didn't learn to do this until I was in my late 30's and I didnt even know I had a G-Spot until I met someone who knew what they were doing, and I can now stimulate it myself. It is partly in the mind as well guys, if your slightly horrified at what your doing its not going to be as good, and nerves will play a big factor.
Assuming that you can make yourself orgasm in varying degrees. Things to try to enhance your orgasm Holding your breath, for 10 secs then letting it go, old your breath, then let it go, keep doing this and then hold your breath longer as you feel the orgasm approaching. Your legs will feel tense RELAX the muscle! The more tense your leg muscles the less intense your orgasm. If your closing your legs, open them as you get closer to orgasm,this will slow down the orgasm and give it time to build up. You can touch your feet together to stop yourself accidentally closing your legs.
If your going to come too quickly stop for 30 secs and then start again, the more you do this the stronger the orgasm. You can increase the pressure to your dick by bearing down using your abdominal muscles (as if your going to pee), you do this is 20 secs spurts, you will find that this can bring on the orgasm qucikly so follow my tips to slow it down. Abdominal bearing can lead to ejaculating, so be prepared, use a towel.
Everyone is capable of ejaculating, the problem is sometimes it feels like your gonna pee yourself, and if you can get your brain to get past that thought, you can ejaculate. Now you can ejaculate up to 2 litres, which is why I suggested a towel, but its more normal for it to be less.
I am quite happy to talk about this in a frank way, so please don't hesitate to ask questions, anything I can do to help you guys is cool.
Quote from: Elijah on May 16, 2010, 06:58:32 PM
1) Does the size it start off, effect the size it will be? When did it stop growing?
2) Are there any things that you wish you had done, that you didnt know about? Things to make it larger?
3) Has the growth helped your genital dysphoria?
4) and one last question.. When you are hard.. and in clothes.. can you still FEEL the erection, do you realize that it is happening? Even if it is small?
1) still growing so cant answer,
2) hmm I guess I wish I had take homones by injection alittle sooner, dont know if it will infect my growth of it but maybe..?
3) I think somehow, I dont really have much disphobie, but it have helped abit the fact I feel I can say "yes I got a penis its just small and im proud of it" it somehow make me feel better that I got something even if its very small.
4) I can fell something like as it hurt alittle and it turns more stiff, but its not really something you notice, it might get alittle bigger but there no way you will see it with my clothes on.
Quote from: maxipark on October 25, 2011, 01:56:22 AM
Yes, there is a similar article I have linked on my post in the other thread. Also I have now given proof to two people on this site.
you showed me
1. A blog written by someone and not an article from the medical community
2. A blog about vaginas and stem cells is COMPLETELY different than making a functional testicle that creates a complex genetic and DNA structure with a living sperm.
troll feeding is my job!
;D
do not feed trolls, it leaves little for a Cyndi to do
Okay, I'm going to have a go at this, because I've been watching this debate a little while and I'm in one of my moods.
Quote from: maxipark on October 24, 2011, 11:38:54 PM
LOL it wasn't a matter of falling for it, I am sharing my experience. I live in holand where being transgender is very common and very well looked in to. You could say in this subject we have the best technology and technics.
First of all, Holland is a region in the Netherlands, if you're referring to just that region, then fair enough, but most Dutch people or people living in the Netherlands do not refer to the Netherlands as Holland.
Secondly, there are only two types of available information on transgender people in the Netherland,
One refers to a recent call for (and from what I can read, successful) repeal of an older law that required transgender people in the Netherlands to have undergone both hormone therapy as well as sexual reassignment surgery before they could change their documents.
The other refers to "the Dutch protocol" which is the practice of using hormone blockers to delay puberty from the age of 10-13 to the age of 16. The Dutch protocol is less than 10 years old.
If you are honest about having undergone the Dutch protocol then it is very unlikely that you're more than approximately 20 years old. How old are your kids?
Quote from: maxipark on October 24, 2011, 11:38:54 PMThe reason "Oprah" or anybody else doesn't know about this is because I don't want them too.
The reference to Oprah is not to you specifically but to the technologies available.
Previously infertile people would be interviewed left and right, not necessarily trans ones.
Quote from: maxipark on October 24, 2011, 11:38:54 PMI am perceived as a biological male, no one knows I am who I am but this forum and my family. Honestly that really was a stupid statement, do you know how many transgendered people there are out there? And only probably 1 in 20 people are open about it. The rest just want to move on with there life as if that's how they were born to be.
The statement is not stupid as it doesn't refer to you specifically but to the medical advances you're stating have happened.
Quote from: maxipark on October 24, 2011, 11:38:54 PMFor those of you that think this isn't possible.. They have regrown a man's penis back with stem cells, made infertile men fertile again by recreating the insides of their testes and they have grown penis' on female mice.
Now, here's where my google-fu will prove you wrong.
"Scientists Grow World's First Engineered Urethra, Created From Patients' Cells (http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2011/03/08/scientists-grow-worlds-first-engineered-urethra-created-from-patients-cells/)"
This article was posted last March.
March, 2011. That is less than 8 months ago.
It's been less than 8 months since doctors were, for the first time in human history, able to grow a human urethra (just one tiny part of the complicated organ that is the penis) from stem cells. Therefore, it's utterly and completely impossible that they've been able to grow a complete penis from stem cells because a complete penis contains a urethra and they've only been able to create that part thus far.
Stem Cells used in the downstairs department have thus far been used only by a handfull of doctors in the form of penis enlargement (girth, not length) methods where they take fat from your body, load it with stem cells, and inject it into the site where they want growth, penis for men, breasts for women. Or so the theory goes.
There's no scientific data on research on this matter that looks remotely reliable. Therefore, this is yet again another sign you're lying about lab-grown penises.
That leaves the testicles. Have they restored fertility to human beings through regenerating the internal parts of testicles with stem cells? Short answer is no. Or at the very least, if they have, then no one knows about it as no documented research on the matter is available anywhere. What they have however done is restored fertility to mice by creating sperm generating cells from stem cells and then injecting them into the already fully formed testicles of infertile male mice.
[urlhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/08/infertility-stem-cells-sperm-mice_n_919622.html]"Infertility Treatment Advances Through Stem Cell Science"[/url] is an article about this. You know when it was published? Last August.
This means that this scientific break through, the first ever made in this manner, on MICE, was accomplished less than three months ago. (Three months, which means that it's still a good 3-10 years before we see any human application what so ever.)
So here again is uncontroversial evidence that you're lying.
There is actually however one truth. A scientist has been able to grow an entire penis in a lab.
Not on a female mouse however, nor was it human.
It was a rabbit's penis.
A group of scientists has been working on this for over 20 years now actually and only in 2009 were they able to grow a functioning replacement for a male rabbit who's penis had been removed allowing it to mate normally again.
"Lab-grown penis helps rabbits mate ... like rabbits" (http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/11/09/us-penis-artificial-idUSTRE5A85L220091109) and to quote the article "Atala is hoping the procedure will work with people, perhaps starting with adult men who have had damage to their organs."
Hoping, will, starting with.
Unless they perfected the technique in two weeks and told no-one, except you, this is not available to human beings, let alone transgender ones, at this time.
Quote from: maxipark on October 24, 2011, 11:38:54 PMThey can also switch off you're foxl2 gene and it starts producing testosterone instead of estrogen and the ovaries become testes. This is why I no longer need testosterone treatment.
Nope, they can't.
Let me explain why they can't by once again linking you to a piece of news.
"One gene stops ovaries from turning into testes" (http://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience/2009/12/one_gene_stops_ovaries_from_turning_into_testes.php)
This is an article from 2009 where it is described how it was possible to turn the ovaries of mice into testicles.
Step one was to "develop a strain of genetically engineered mice, whose copies of FOXL2 could be deleted with the drug tamoxifen."
Note the word "could" as well as the word "develop" and the term "genetically engineered".
Unless you're a genetically engineered strain of human who's specifically been altered to make it possible to turn of your FOSL2 gene, you're not being honest with this either.
It is not currently possible to turn off the human FOXL2 gene.
Quote from: maxipark on October 24, 2011, 11:38:54 PMI had no idea people in other countries were so ignorant and un informed. Wow.
Calling people ignorant and uninformed while having no scientific basis to back up your claims is impolite at best.
We here make it our business to read every article of every scientific breakthrough that could benefit us in our transition and as such we are generally better informed on these subjects than other laypersons.
I'd hardly call it ignorant.
If you have any links to any information however that'll back up your claims and trump the links provided I'll happily admit that I was uninformed on this issue, but as no such links have turned up even with the repeated calls for them I'm not holding my breath.
I'm going to say a quick thanks to silvermaneUK for the awesome info, I'm sure some guys on here will find it really helpful. I know I always avoided looking up the best way to get the most from an orgasm because of the female body parts mentioned left right and centre, so thanks heaps. :)
Also, right on Miniar. >:-)
Quote from: maxipark on October 25, 2011, 10:06:57 AM
For the record, non of you pass.. I can tell from a mile away.
This would be something coming from a 14 year old. Not a super mega millionaire rich person who discovered medical advancements in bio molecular technology that can change the face of our world through DNA restructuring.
But thank you for your observation. I will
be sure to take your advice on my pass-ability skills.
Ok this thread seriously needs to be locked and Maxi should have his/her account suspended.
I think if the topic can get back on the track that Elijah started it on things will be fine.
Maxiparks will not be posting in this thread again, so lets all just move on and start fresh.
Yup. maxipark has left the building.
Thank you.
Now if we could impose on the mod team a smidge and get this thread cleaned up?
Quote from: Elijah on May 16, 2010, 06:58:32 PM
For guys who are on testosterone, and have been on it for a while.. how big does the dick actually get.. (from testosterone only)
Does the size it start off, effect the size it will be? When did it stop growing?
Are there any things that you wish you had done, that you didnt know about? Things to make it larger?
Has the growth helped your genital dysphoria?
and one last question.. When you are hard.. and in clothes.. can you still FEEL the erection, do you realize that it is happening? Even if it is small?
1. I'm not sure as I haven't really looked into such things much.
2. Eh... not really
3. Nah, Thats one of the reasons I don't regret not looking into ways to enlarge it further.... I'm certainly not trying to offend anyone but to me an enlarged clit does not a dick make.
4. Sort of...
Omg, you people are so dumb! My penis is 43 inches long. Where I come from that's normal for a male to have a penis that long. (It's useful as a kind of "tripod" leg to lean on when our other legs are tired.) This is just average, 21st century medical science! I can't believe you people are so primitive. I feel like I'm talking to a group of cavemen from thousands upon thousand of years ago and we should be communicating in cave drawings--maybe then you would understand! I can't believe people from other planets--er, I mean, other countries are so stupid and ignorant and poor and unenlightened and so unfamiliar with
basic, everyday penis-enhancing technology. It's so frustrating because for some reason I feel the need to go on forums and yell at people about this instead of enjoying the supposedly awesome life afforded by my 43-inch penis!
No, but in all seriousness...
Quote from: GnomeKid on October 25, 2011, 03:24:14 PM3. Nah, Thats one of the reasons I don't regret not looking into ways to enlarge it further.... I'm certainly not trying to offend anyone but to me an enlarged clit does not a dick make.
Perspective. No matter how big a dick is (heck, even if there's testicles beneath it), if you think of it as a clit, it may as well be a clit.
(Eventually, personally, I realized it was
on me to change the way I thought about my dick, not on my dick to change so I would be less dysphoric. It changed anyway, but all of that would have been for nothing had I not thought of it as a penis in the first.)
I can feel it get hard, yes. It doesn't gain any length when I'm hard, it just sticks out a little more and feels hard...I love the ability to feel that I have a boner. It depends, but if I'm aroused enough it does rub against my clothes.
Quote from: Leek on October 26, 2011, 05:39:25 PM
Perspective. No matter how big a dick is (heck, even if there's testicles beneath it), if you think of it as a clit, it may as well be a clit.
I think of mine as a clit. It may as well be one. It's so difficult for me to ejaculate now, or even to maintain more than a semi-erection in many cases, that I don't see any point in calling it a "penis" since it rarely acts like one. The only thing it's good for anymore is stimulating it just to have fun. But in terms of "male" biological functioning, it doesn't really do that anymore.
VeryGnawty
You are aware this is the FTM board?