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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Female to male transsexual talk (FTM) => Topic started by: Papillon on June 24, 2010, 07:55:58 AM

Title: Facial changes on T?
Post by: Papillon on June 24, 2010, 07:55:58 AM
This has prolly been asked and answered numerous times, but here we go again.

I know of all the expected physical changes that happen with T; lowered voice, increase in body and facial hair, fat redistribution etc etc  But some people also seem to experience changes to the planes of their faces, such that they look more masculine.

Now, I have no idea if this is just part of the fat redistribution thing or whether changes in bone structure actually happen.  But I would be interested to know as I have a very femmy face and would love to acquire a more masculine look if and when I transition.

Anyone know anything on this?
Title: Re: Facial changes on T
Post by: Lachlann on June 24, 2010, 08:12:37 AM
I know for certain that the bridge of my nose got wider.
Title: Re: Facial changes on T
Post by: Greg on June 24, 2010, 09:17:22 AM
Just for a laugh I'll post a before and after.

Pre transition
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1012.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faf247%2Fgregory_jerome%2Fold2.jpg&hash=47178f3629e8bdfd0fb8bf0bbe272111d1fcfd48)


4 months on T
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1012.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faf247%2Fgregory_jerome%2F072.jpg&hash=d779b3675f5dd5c6372b95a8332eb5ff435ad738)

Hard to say whats changed really, jaw is more square, cheeks are less chubby, nose is bigger. I think the pictures say more than I could.
Title: Re: Facial changes on T
Post by: Papillon on June 24, 2010, 09:26:43 AM
Bloody hell, Greg!  That is a HUGE change and very heartening.  You look great!  Thanks for that.
Title: Re: Facial changes on T?
Post by: Vin on June 24, 2010, 09:33:31 AM
That IS heartening. I would love a less female looking face too.
Title: Re: Facial changes on T?
Post by: zombiesarepeaceful on June 24, 2010, 12:43:24 PM
I think it's largely related to the change of fat patterns on T. Even if you don't think you have alot of "face fat" pre-T, you do have some. I didn't think I did but my facial structure would beg to differ.
Title: Re: Facial changes on T?
Post by: GamerJames on June 24, 2010, 12:55:31 PM
I too cannot wait for this change! Only 2-3 more months until I start T (yay!) and then we'll see how the face changes go after that. :)
Title: Re: Facial changes on T?
Post by: DaddySplicer on June 24, 2010, 01:21:52 PM
I should put up a newer photo for my avatar, as that one's from late last year and doesn't quite represent my face as it is now.

The bridge of my nose has definitely become more jutted. My jaw line has squared out, but my chin is still pointed. I lost some of the flab in my cheeks, and my eyebrows went from thick to bushy. Also, my neck thickened a lot, which gives a more masculine feel to the overall shebang.
Title: Re: Facial changes on T?
Post by: Papillon on June 24, 2010, 01:43:49 PM
Wow chaps!  This is wonderful news!  Yes, the changes may be subtle, but they add up to a great deal.

More, more, more!
Title: Re: Facial changes on T?
Post by: GamerJames on June 24, 2010, 01:57:38 PM
I agree: more pics! More! ;D
Title: Re: Facial changes on T?
Post by: DaddySplicer on June 24, 2010, 02:37:43 PM
@Ryan: Lulz. I wish I'd had the foresight to document my changes properly in photos. Good thinking, and the changes are definite.
Title: Re: Facial changes on T?
Post by: Radar on June 24, 2010, 10:40:53 PM
Your bones thicken up on T which also helps facial changes.
Title: Re: Facial changes on T?
Post by: Lachlann on June 24, 2010, 10:47:41 PM
Quote from: Kvall on June 24, 2010, 02:46:23 PM
A lot of guys also get puffy cheeks for a while when they first start T. Some have attributed this to water weight, so it can possibly be kept down by staying hydrated and avoiding high sodium. I didn't experience any facial changes besides puffy cheeks until about a year on T.

... I wonder if that's why my eyes are bit puffy sometimes.
Title: Re: Facial changes on T?
Post by: Brittyn on June 25, 2010, 12:32:07 AM
My face puffed up during the first 3 or so months.  More some days than others, but since then I haven't had a problem.
Title: Re: Facial changes on T?
Post by: accord03 on June 25, 2010, 02:35:28 AM
Bigger nose?  Shizzz. My nose is already big. Lol Don't want it too be bigger.
Title: Re: Facial changes on T?
Post by: Silver on June 25, 2010, 03:03:58 AM
Quote from: Kvall on June 24, 2010, 02:46:23 PM
A lot of guys also get puffy cheeks for a while when they first start T. Some have attributed this to water weight, so it can possibly be kept down by staying hydrated and avoiding high sodium. I didn't experience any facial changes besides puffy cheeks until about a year on T.

Bioguys seem to get this too, so at least we're not unusual.
Title: Re: Facial changes on T?
Post by: Brittyn on June 25, 2010, 06:01:39 AM
Quote from: accord03 on June 25, 2010, 02:35:28 AM
Bigger nose?  Shizzz. My nose is already big. Lol Don't want it too be bigger.

It'll just become more proportionate to your bigger face.
Title: Re: Facial changes on T?
Post by: accord03 on June 25, 2010, 06:10:26 AM
Quote from: Graham on June 25, 2010, 06:01:39 AM
It'll just become more proportionate to your bigger face.

That's alright then if my face is gonna go bigger and my head is too.

I can also start wearing hats.
Title: Re: Facial changes on T?
Post by: zombiesarepeaceful on June 25, 2010, 02:13:18 PM
Yeah, you'll probably retain a bit of water til your body gets used to the T. Happened to me and a friend of mine. I never realized that under all the stupid fat on my face (which I didn't think I had alot of)...that my jawline and stuff were actually squarer than I thought.
Title: Re: Facial changes on T?
Post by: Carson on June 25, 2010, 02:53:06 PM
Pre-T

http://s741.photobucket.com/albums/xx54/carsonftm/?action=view&current=Photoon2009-10-09at1155.jpg (http://s741.photobucket.com/albums/xx54/carsonftm/?action=view&current=Photoon2009-10-09at1155.jpg)

Today (Almost 6 months on T) (excuse the unwashed gross hair)

http://s741.photobucket.com/albums/xx54/carsonftm/?action=view&current=Photoon2010-06-25at1547.jpg (http://s741.photobucket.com/albums/xx54/carsonftm/?action=view&current=Photoon2010-06-25at1547.jpg)

Title: Re: Facial changes on T?
Post by: GamerJames on June 25, 2010, 05:57:56 PM
Carson: Amazing changes for only 6 months, I think I may have commented likewise on one of your Facebook pics as well. You have definitely taken well to the T, I can only hope to be so lucky when it's my turn! :D
Title: Re: Facial changes on T?
Post by: Carson on June 25, 2010, 06:25:01 PM
thanks! yeah I meant to comment back on my profile pic but sometimes it doesn't work on my phone and then I forget about it.
Title: Re: Facial changes on T?
Post by: GamerJames on June 25, 2010, 06:27:52 PM
Quote from: Carson on June 25, 2010, 06:25:01 PM
thanks! yeah I meant to comment back on my profile pic but sometimes it doesn't work on my phone and then I forget about it.

I hear ya, I do that a ton too. I'll tell myself "comment back when you get to a real computer" and then it never happens... lol ;D
Title: Re: Facial changes on T?
Post by: Carson on June 25, 2010, 06:29:05 PM
lol exactly
Title: Re: Facial changes on T?
Post by: Greg on June 25, 2010, 06:35:03 PM
OK, I'm not posting any more embarassing old pics (I think one is enough)

So here I am today pretty much exactly 5months on T

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1012.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faf247%2Fgregory_jerome%2F036.jpg&hash=7643b0e5fa29e2ff452473d866efd48311858cba)
Title: Re: Facial changes on T?
Post by: Chamillion on June 25, 2010, 06:58:45 PM
Me Pre T
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi33.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fd54%2Fcitrus_fruit%2Fl_39d2246b06034cc7af089ecfd7ee36db.jpg&hash=752266a49b21140a31be0e76542537c3f9e0226b)

Me about a month ago, a year on T
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi33.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fd54%2Fcitrus_fruit%2Fphpsj68LIPM.jpg&hash=17f45b3c11b9ed78492f97f038841502244dd841)

I think there's been a lot of change.  And ironically I'm wearing the same shirt in both pics lol
Title: Re: Facial changes on T?
Post by: Miniar on June 25, 2010, 07:18:00 PM
I'm possibly loosing it, but I swear my nose has changed a bit, and my chin's a little less pointy...
Title: Re: Facial changes on T?
Post by: Crypt77 on June 25, 2010, 09:49:22 PM
Haha reading through this topic makes me conclude one thing for sure:

Your nose will change.

Man, I will confirm that when I get on to T (In 124 days!)
Title: Re: Facial changes on T?
Post by: DaddySplicer on June 25, 2010, 10:28:51 PM
This thread got me in the mode for actually searching for old photos of myself, of which I have very few, and most of those have my face obscured. So I apologise for the small size. But:

Pre-T:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi227.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fdd257%2Funaesthetik%2FBlackFatigue.jpg&hash=12e8cf4336654f54a50d696222348b59c2cc52b1)

A year and a half-or-near-half:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi227.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fdd257%2Funaesthetik%2Fc15930db.jpg&hash=f5db894ef813e4f84813720a83296cec15b1dd3a)


Title: Re: Facial changes on T?
Post by: Jamie-o on June 26, 2010, 12:47:04 AM
Pre-T
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi674.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv110%2FJamie-O7%2F10mopre-T.jpg&hash=78cf59339fa89d1f4a12668a12cd3bc64bf4b683)

3 months
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi674.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv110%2FJamie-O7%2F3monthsSmall.jpg&hash=4bbcee53bc42119a3199ce5ed5740d60307b8876)

4 months
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi674.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv110%2FJamie-O7%2F4Mo.jpg&hash=e157979ef32a72f337eb23663ce5bd679622a843)

1 Year
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi674.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv110%2FJamie-O7%2FIMG_3967.jpg&hash=dc887edba006c6015d0777877ad620804ad33fd2)

As you can see, there wasn't much change in the first 3 months, but then the changes really seemed to start hitting around 4 months.
Title: Re: Facial changes on T?
Post by: M.Grimm on June 26, 2010, 12:53:40 AM
It's fascinating to see how T changes people. In all of the photos shown, you guys go from looking male to looking VERY male. It's so awesome.
Title: Re: Facial changes on T?
Post by: zombiesarepeaceful on June 26, 2010, 02:53:14 PM
Chammilion...your face squared out...ALOT. I'll post updated pics when I get them uploaded.

Post Merge: June 26, 2010, 12:53:52 PM

Chammilion...your face squared out...ALOT. I'll post updated pics when I get them uploaded.

Post Merge: June 28, 2010, 01:03:08 PM

Pre-T:

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi47.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff178%2Ffthssn42%2Fl_93241a65d6214a20af1c106f9b50f72d.jpg&hash=d0b26646b62ce6cbda8333352248e3fdb7f075c6)

Day 43:

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi47.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff178%2Ffthssn42%2FDay42_2.jpg&hash=6be9cade1e00ce67284d0898e42af51c46c66d17)