Warning, this is going to be a rant of me complaining.
So, idk where to start...
I have really bad dysphoria almost daily, worse when I go out in public/places with a lot of people. But my dysphoria isn't due to my chest or lack of the lower region like most guys... the thing that gets to me the most is my height. I haven't grown in like 10 yrs, and im 99.9999% sure im not going to be growing anymore any time soon. And there's no possible way ever for me to grow any taller.
:/
Id give anything for at least 4 inches.
Well in turn of my height, I have small hands and small feet. Short arms, short legs...
And due to the effect of my small stature, and babyface, I look half my age.
So my problem is, I will never be what I was meant to be. Ill never look how I was supposed to look. Even with T ill just look like an old little kid cause im so short.
And it sucks cause guys out there don't see what they have, they're not happy with being 5'5". It seems like we never appreciate what we have, we always want more. But id be happy with the normal height of a short guy. I know kids who are younger than me, and are taller. Both guys and girls.
Im like a midget guy, and my fear is that ill always be seen as a kid.
I just want to look my age, and more height would really help that. And the fact that there's nothing to help me gets me really down, and depressed, and I just want to give up. What's the point in trying to look like the guy I was supposed to be when I will never be tall enough..
My height really gets me down, it tears me up inside. Cause just a few inches all over and id be happy..that's it..and no one understands, cause everyone is taller than me.
This effects everything.
I can't hit on people that look my age, or even younger. Little kids are always checking me out & trying to get with me, its annoying and makes me feel like a pedophile.
I mean, if people don't know my age then I pass like 100% of the time(as a young boy). But once they know my age, they see a girl. Cause there's no way possible I could be my real age, at this height with this voice.
So in turn, this makes dating nearly impossible. If I go out with any friends they assume im the little brother, even if im with a group of people my age. I look so young that when its just me and my sister, they think im her kid. She's only 4 yrs older than me.
I have a fear, that with T, ill just look like a little boy with a beard.
:/
I've tried looking at the positives or trying to embrace my height. But I can't, I hate it. Yeah, sometimes I get things cheaper. Food, clothes, tickets. Cause I pass for the kids menu & fit into boys shirts. But nobody wants to be a boy forever, eventually we all want to become young men, then men. I don't mind having the spirit of a kid forever, but I do mind looking like one for life. Yeah it'll mean when im 10 yrs older ill still lokk young. But I don't want that. I've tried dying my hair, cutting it different ways, dressing with a different style..I've found that (according to others) I look older being just me, with my natural hair color.
Everyday I wish to be taller, but its just a silly hopeless dream...and everyday it gets worse and worse.
I don't know what to do, I just feel like giving up. There's no point to transition cause ill never be a normal guy. I've got everything else but that.
And height does make a big difference in life. I can't lift certain things to certain places, I can't reach high places. Most of the time wherever I sit, I can't reach the ground. Its just everything..and I can't date anyone taller than me, cause ill feel lesser..but everyone is taller!
>:/
Its sucks cause I 'pass' often, but I still look at myself negatively.
Idk, wow this was long..ill stop typing now..I think that's enough of my whining for you to read. Thanks if you read through it all.
Being short sucks.
While they might not help much, you may want to look into buying some shoe lifts. They can give you about +2", and every little bit helps! LesLoveBoat has some. http://www.lesloveboat.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=32&products_id=176 (http://www.lesloveboat.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=32&products_id=176)
They're pretty cheap too - like $10, which I definitely think is worth it, especially to help ebb dysphoria.
Hey thanks Aiden, maybe ill give those a try.
Quote from: Femboy on September 05, 2010, 07:39:44 PM
Hey thanks Aiden, maybe ill give those a try.
No problem. They recommend getting a size bigger for the best fit, since the lifts are insoles. They're best worn in boots or hi-tops so the shoes don't slip off your feet.
Just a suggestion, you could try looking taller by wearing huge ass boots like this: http://www.westernweddingboots.com/ladies/uniquebridalwear/images/menswomenbootsgothpunkbootspatpukneehimonsterplatformboot17i.jpg (http://www.westernweddingboots.com/ladies/uniquebridalwear/images/menswomenbootsgothpunkbootspatpukneehimonsterplatformboot17i.jpg)
Being short sucks, I know. I'm sorry. :(
I am sorry too! I so feel your pain..it's something myself struggle with...hopefully T will add some maturity look to me
Quote from: Aiden James on September 05, 2010, 07:48:36 PM
No problem. They recommend getting a size bigger for the best fit, since the lifts are insoles. They're best worn in boots or hi-tops so the shoes don't slip off your feet.
I was going to ask about that, I don't wear tall shoes. :|
Devyn, lol yeah I think that would just make me feel worse. :d
Rob,
Yeah I hope that for me too.
Quote from: Femboy on September 05, 2010, 08:49:10 PM
I was going to ask about that, I don't wear tall shoes. :|
They'll work better in skater shoes than in shoes with shorter backs if you wanna avoid hi tops or boots - so you should still be able to use them if you wear Vans or the like. It'll make them kinda Croc-like in that there's no back.
If you're handy, some well-placed velcro straps in the back could fix the problem pretty well.
I've struggled with this A LOT as well :-\. I was going to suggest the elevator shoes as well, but you guys beat me to the punch ::). If it's any consolation, some of the most powerful men in history have been under average in height: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6_cnfpfNUD8/SqsqEF540bI/AAAAAAAAANs/ygRWzLll2gU/s400/090911+World+Leaders+Heights.jpg (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6_cnfpfNUD8/SqsqEF540bI/AAAAAAAAANs/ygRWzLll2gU/s400/090911+World+Leaders+Heights.jpg)
It helps me to realize that even in sports I'm interested in (football, MMA) there are guys that are around 5' 6" and not only compete but excel in their fields.
Though I agree that our societies' picture of the ideal male is "tall, dark, and handsome" I saw something about women not trusting these types of men as much (so maybe we get the same amount of attention from women just a different kind of attention ::)). Besides, societal ideals come and go. Back in the day, the most attractive women were those who would be considered overweight by our standards today. Not saying that societies' picture of the perfect man will change overnight, but it's definitely something to mull over.
(Wow, there was so much I wanted to say at the same time I think that came out EXTREMELY cluttered xD excuse me)
Quote from: Aiden James on September 05, 2010, 09:21:38 PM
They'll work better in skater shoes than in shoes with shorter backs if you wanna avoid hi tops or boots - so you should still be able to use them if you wear Vans or the like. It'll make them kinda Croc-like in that there's no back.
If you're handy, some well-placed velcro straps in the back could fix the problem pretty well.
Hmmm okay. Thanks for the info!
Meepit,
I see short guys all the time. Even some with taller girls. I just hate to be so short, it sucks!
I hope I can find the confidence to get over it though.
Trust me, you won't look like a little boy with a beard. I think it's important to remember that things like height seem so much worse pre-T, because we tend to seize on smaller issues to avoid the pain of the big picture. I had my own issues as well. The point is, you are going to look like a male your age someday. Pre-T guys almost always look younger than they are, regardless of height.
I had a transman who mentored me as I went through the process of transitioning. I stood a good 7 inches taller than him, but the way he carried himself always made me feel three inches shorter. And he looked completely male and had a lot of luck on the dating scene. A little testosterone and a lot of attitude go a long way!
I personally would skip the shoe lifts as well--it's only delaying the inevitable need to confront your discomfort with your height, since at this point it's probably not going to change much. Plus, there are no shoe lifts that are tall enough to completely eliminate self-consciousness about height. Just keep the long-term in mind--one day you are going to be on hormones, and one day the only thing people will see when they look at you is a man your age!
Quote from: Quicksand on September 06, 2010, 12:14:57 AM
Trust me, you won't look like a little boy with a beard. I think it's important to remember that things like height seem so much worse pre-T, because we tend to seize on smaller issues to avoid the pain of the big picture.
Echo.
The prez of our local FTM group is quite short--about five feet, I believe. Maybe less; he's way shorter than I am, and I'm a little over 5' 6". He has been on T for more than five years, and absolutely nobody ever mistakes him for a woman. He's all guy.
I know that doesn't help you now, but try to look to the future. I still have to do that myself because even though nobody mistakes me for a woman, I'm impatient about everything, like the facial hair that I don't have.
Thanks guys.
I guess it is all in how you carry yourself, and you level of confidence..I just don't really have any right now.
But ill try not to focus so much on it, but its really hard.
Hello,
5'1" here. Yes, you read it right. 5'1". (My dad is 5'3", so your size).
Most guys are taller than me here, even most women are taller than me. Germans tend to be quite tall.
Moreover, when I was physically a woman, I looked 6 to 8 years than I was (female mode, I always had very "cute" physical attributes - imagine Meg Ryan transitioning, it comes close to that). Meanwhile, I have had enough testosterone shots to sometimes pass as an adult, but like many transguys, I look 7 or 8 years younger than my age - plus the additional 7 or 8 years effect from before have added to this and may remain. I am often mistaken for a 16-20 year old boy though I'm in my mid-thirties, and when I tell people my real age, they go like this :o and ask - how is that possible? Well, it's my little secret. But I know that with more testosterone shots, I'll look older than that. I already "grew" from a girl (no chance of passing) pre-t to a 14-year old boy to a 16 and now mostly young adult boy after 1,5-2 years on testo.
Women my age usually don't flirt with me on their own cause I could be their son, but they feel flattered when I flirt with them and sometimes respond to the flirting. Trouble is, it's almost always those women who are attracted to me who want a kind of surrogate son in a relationship, which sucks. One mom is enough for me. Maybe I could find exceptions here, but it's too much of a hassle for me. Young women don't flirt with me cause they want a guy bigger than them. But I'm bi, and "option B" works very well: young guys flirt with me as they think I'm cute, elder guys flirt cause I look cute and young (same as before transition, only now it's the gay guys, not the straight ones). Well I only date people about my age or elder, so young people are fun to flirt with, but nothing results from it. Before transition, I also had almost no chances with women as soon as they knew I'm bi, so at least nothing has worsened here.
First of all, you won't end up looking like a midget boy with a beard, but like a small man. The "boy" phase might take longer for you than for taller transguys, though. A small size causes some delay, but does not mess up anything. You'll look older and older with each testo shot. The good thing about it is that you can really "grow" into the adult male role and people won't be too angry at you if you mess things up when they think you're still a teenager and still need to learn how to behave as a man. It's very useful actually, and most of us go through this "boy" phase as the physical changes take a while (unless you're old, then you might look just weird during the transitioning phase but will look okay after a couple of years on T). I know a couple of other transguys about my size or only a bit taller, and they all look like small adult guys, not like midget boys with a beard.
I'm still happier than before, as the "age dysphoria" is much less awful for me than the "gender dysphoria". And it helps me to know that my dad is not much taller than me.
I wouldn't suggest wearing high shoes as it will not change much for you and make people wonder if you don't wear them every single day.
I was recently introduced to a tumblr blog called "->-bleeped-<- Yeah Short Guys." So far it's been pictures of actors, singers, and athletes who are all under 5 foot 6.
http://->-bleeped-<-yeahshortguys.tumblr.com/ (//http:///)
Prince is guessed to be about 5 foot. I sometimes go on that site and think "wow...masculine guys around my height that do awesome stuff do exist." Me...I'm 5 foot 2. All of my brothers and sisters are 2-13 inches taller than me, and some of them aren't finished growing.
Quote from: Nygeel on September 06, 2010, 01:07:29 AM
I was recently introduced to a tumblr blog called "->-bleeped-<- Yeah Short Guys." So far it's been pictures of actors, singers, and athletes who are all under 5 foot 6.
http://->-bleeped-<-yeahshortguys.tumblr.com/ (//http:///)
Prince is guessed to be about 5 foot. I sometimes go on that site and think "wow...masculine guys around my height that do awesome stuff do exist." Me...I'm 5 foot 2. All of my brothers and sisters are 2-13 inches taller than me, and some of them aren't finished growing.
That.Is.AWESOME :o. That blog really lifts my confidence. Thanks for that!
Quote from: Nygeel on September 06, 2010, 01:07:29 AM
I was recently introduced to a tumblr blog called "->-bleeped-<- Yeah Short Guys." So far it's been pictures of actors, singers, and athletes who are all under 5 foot 6.
http://->-bleeped-<-yeahshortguys.tumblr.com/ (//http:///)
Prince is guessed to be about 5 foot. I sometimes go on that site and think "wow...masculine guys around my height that do awesome stuff do exist." Me...I'm 5 foot 2. All of my brothers and sisters are 2-13 inches taller than me, and some of them aren't finished growing.
That link gave me the boost I needed today, thanks Nygeel.
Quote from: Nygeel on September 06, 2010, 01:07:29 AM
I was recently introduced to a tumblr blog called "->-bleeped-<- Yeah Short Guys." So far it's been pictures of actors, singers, and athletes who are all under 5 foot 6.
http://->-bleeped-<-yeahshortguys.tumblr.com/ (//http:///)
... I flicked through that for a bit, found Thom Yorke, and melted into the sofa...
That guy... so hot... what a voice...
*drifts off*
I feel your pain. I am 5' and I also look about 10 years younger than my age pre-T. I am almost 40 and people think I am in my late 20's and early 30's. I have a ring finger that is a size 2 in women's. I have to shop in the boys section of the store cause men's clothes are way too big on me. So, that also adds to me looking younger. The clothing I have to wear. Unless I become rich sometime soon and can have things custom made for me but I don't see that happening any time soon. I've struggled with it for years myself till I started seeing more and more men come into the store I used to work at and they were as small as me. That gave me confidence that there ARE some hetro men that are actually just as small as me and they are never mistaken as girls or even boys. They look like men and are treated like one. Once on T awhile I think things change in the facial structure and body enough to actually make us look less like little boys and more like men regardless of our height.
On a note to that tumblr. blog, I am SO following that now for inspiration! That's a great find and thanks for sharing it! I am so showing that to my girlfriend. She knows the struggle I have with being a short man...=) All I can say is hang in there. One day your shining day will come and you will look back and say..wow! I can't believe it. I made it!
Quote from: Bones on September 06, 2010, 01:10:46 PM
I feel your pain. I am 5' and I also look about 10 years younger than my age pre-T. I am almost 40 and people think I am in my late 20's and early 30's. I have a ring finger that is a size 2 in women's. I have to shop in the boys section of the store cause men's clothes are way too big on me. So, that also adds to me looking younger.
My father has almost the same problem as you, he's a little bit taller but chubby. He goes clothes shopping in Strasbourg (France) as French male clothes tend to have smaller sizes. Maybe you can find an online shopping solution from a French, Italian etc. online shop. Mediterranean guys are often small.
Quote from: Femboy on September 05, 2010, 05:40:26 PM
Id give anything for at least 4 inches.
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No really, don't do that. Your face will mature on T. It would be very hard to find someone who looks like a boy with a beard, that's very unlikely phenomenon. In the way that it's unlikely to find a woman with a large chest and skinny body otherwise.
Being taller doesn't necessarily make you look older. I'm 5'9", and people regularly guess that im 18-20, when I'm actually 26. There's plenty of 14-15 year old guys who are taller than me, so height doesnt really help me much.
Quote from: Nygeel on September 06, 2010, 01:07:29 AM
I was recently introduced to a tumblr blog called "->-bleeped-<- Yeah Short Guys." So far it's been pictures of actors, singers, and athletes who are all under 5 foot 6.
http://->-bleeped-<-yeahshortguys.tumblr.com/ (//http:///)
Prince is guessed to be about 5 foot. I sometimes go on that site and think "wow...masculine guys around my height that do awesome stuff do exist." Me...I'm 5 foot 2. All of my brothers and sisters are 2-13 inches taller than me, and some of them aren't finished growing.
Ha that's awesome! Someone needs to put Frank Iero on there http://mcrfan.co.uk/images/band/frank.jpg (http://mcrfan.co.uk/images/band/frank.jpg) (guitarist in MCR ... 5'4" tops)
5'2" here ... usually if I stand up straight and have shoes on I can get to 5'3" though, so I usually just run with that ;) (aren't guys famous for "adding a couple inches" anyway? hahaha)
And there are some badass dudes that are short ... Danzig for one. heh On that same type of vibe I found this: http://www.thegauntlet.com/article/1225/13576/Top-10-Shortest-Guys-In-Metal.html#axzz0ymgZQLSO (http://www.thegauntlet.com/article/1225/13576/Top-10-Shortest-Guys-In-Metal.html#axzz0ymgZQLSO)
To me, a lot of it doesn't have to do with attitude. Personally when someone says attitude and short guys I think of guys our size who are trying to compensate too hard (like they have giant raised trucks and big speakers lol). That kind of attitude is just whack. It's the "chip on the shoulder" type of attitude and to me, that makes me view you as more of just a general prick than someone who's short but confident!
So to me, confidence is way more important. I definitely do not look my age. 10+ years younger in fact. There's times I wish I was taller, but my dad is 5'5" and my mom is 5' and it's very rare in my family for any guy to even reach average (5'9") so I was pretty much screwed on the height thing as well.
When I'm out in public though, I notice there's a lot of guys who are short. It's less rare than people would think in my opinion. Yeah a ton of guys make it 5'9 or over but a lot don't.
You just have to get past the self-hate thing and turn that energy into confidence. If you are going to be taking T and getting the facial hair thing that will for sure help too.
Personally I never had a problem with looking younger than I was. The older I get the happier I am when I get carded somewhere lol. Seriously, we're all gonna look fabulous when everyone else looks like a dried prune :)
Yeah I'm 5'1"..sometimes it really bothers me, but not so much at the moment. I do look younger, people read me at about 19-21 but I'm actually 27. Sometimes I don't want to give away stuff that indicates me age because people think I look too young to remember certain things.
Oh yeah, I go to therapy near a middle school and when I leave they're all finishing school. One time these two girls giggled and said hi to me as I walked past...kinda weird. And another time one of the boys fist bumped me. Weird!
T does amazing things though. I can't wait. And since I'm short I'm always hardout on the lookout for other short guys and there are heaps. And they look like men, not kids.
To be honest up front, I didn't read more than even 3 responses. I myself have a height issue, I hate my height. It is really one of the only things about my body that makes me uncomfortable. I have days that I call "tiny man" days. These are days filled with issues of being annoyed and angry about things like my height. It only happens once or twice a month, but they put me in a hell of a bad (and/or whinny) mood.
I wear cowboy boots most of the time, helps add a couple of inches and I plan to get some lifts. In fact the pair we were all pointed to early on in the thread is exactly what I've been looking at but I'm waiting another month so I can just purchase some other items all at the same time.
I HATE being short. I'm about 5'5 without my boots and even with my boots guys who do know I'm trans have had strange talks with me about how I'm so "petite" Yet women never seem to notice. Does that seem common to anyone else? Like girls never notice or don't comment on my size, in fact when I come out as trans they are always shocked. Guys pick up on it easier although the ones who realize I'm trans tend to be more open minded guys who actually have GLBT friends, other men just assume I'm young.
I should add too, one of the few things that annoys me about my partner is that she is tall. At least for someone born physically male she is actually short, maybe around 5'9 or so. However nothing is more annoying than having to ask your girlfriend to get something off the top shelf for you :(
Quote from: Silver on September 06, 2010, 03:18:11 PM
Anything? (http://"http://www.makemetaller.info/")
Oh my peppers I think you've officially made me a little more thankful, haha... I'm a short guy too, around 5'1" or 5'2" on a good day, but I'm Asian so everyone says that is to be expected. ::) (Certainly did not help that my love was a good 6' flat... bio female, too.) A lot of my dysphoria has to do with my height, so I'll echo what most other guys have already said.
Here's a little something to amuse y'all though: While I was in Japan with my family, we went to visit an amusement park. When we finally got up to the front of the line to get some wrist bands, we had to correct the woman because she was going to put the "adult" one on my 13-year-old sister, and the "child" one on 17-year-old me. :'( Sadly, that was not the
only time people have been confused... They kept thinking we were lying. .__.
I'm joining the club :/ I hate being short but lately I've been trying to make myself feel better by noticing all the guys just as short. And yea I think confidence is a big factor (not to be confused with doucheyness) sometimes it overpasses the height issue. I guess it helps that my gf is slighty shorter anyways and she doesn't care about height.
And to get off topic, cowboi what kinda dog do you have?
Hey I went out with a tall girl. She was like 5'11" and we looked ridiculous walking down the street together. But good god, in other ways it was totally hot.
I have a total boner for tall girls tho..I kinda like being towered over.
Quote from: James42 on September 06, 2010, 07:41:30 PM
I'm joining the club :/ I hate being short but lately I've been trying to make myself feel better by noticing all the guys just as short. And yea I think confidence is a big factor (not to be confused with doucheyness) sometimes it overpasses the height issue. I guess it helps that my gf is slighty shorter anyways and she doesn't care about height.
And to get off topic, cowboi what kinda dog do you have?
My dog is an Italian Greyhound, sometimes called Iggys, IGs or miniature greyhounds. They are very interesting dogs actually, not very typical in behavior or personality. He's more like having a small child than a dog. Sometimes I think I just got a large goofy looking cat who is very needy lol. He prefers cats for company and play over dogs and is best buds with my fiancee's cat. They cuddle and sleep together, play together and even take food out of their dishes and deliver it to one another as treats lol.
I told Bianca about this thread and she got a big kick out of it. She is very amused by my "tiny man syndrome" as I call it. I get very whiny or very pissy at random points in time over my height. I have at least one day a month where I suffer from tiny man syndrome.
Oh, man, I get that feeling a lot. I know I should be grateful that I grew a few inches recently (went from 4'11"-5'0" to 5'2"-5'3" when I was 19), but I still feel awfully short, and even when people think I'm a girl, they mistake me for being 8+ years younger than I am. My insecurity with my height has been the biggest thing that makes me second-guess transition largely because I'm worried about being a short man for the rest of my life, as if that's such a terrible thing to be. I should have plenty of experience from being seen as a short girl all those years! But somehow that reasoning only makes me feel worse, that and thinking that if I were shorter, as in <5', people would just assume I was a Little Person and it wouldn't be as bad as being just plain short. It helped that I found out not too long ago that Angus and Malcolm Young of AC/DC are approximately my height, and they're major badasses, so being a short man doesn't mean I can't get respect, etc. I'm really pleased to see lots of other kickass short guys featured on those blogs/sites. (-:
Quote from: Ilan Reshon on September 06, 2010, 10:50:13 PM
It helped that I found out not too long ago that Angus and Malcolm Young of AC/DC are approximately my height, and they're major badasses, so being a short man doesn't mean I can't get respect, etc. I'm really pleased to see lots of other kickass short guys featured on those blogs/sites. (-:
Very true, check out actors and professional wrestlers, it is very common for men to be short surprisingly and some of the men that society has claimed to be the sexiest alive are around our heights in reality. It's just a matter of putting them on screen next to people who match them lol. Maybe it's all just about finding someone the perfect height to stand next to forever.
Quote from: Cowboi on September 06, 2010, 11:37:34 PM
Maybe it's all just about finding someone the perfect height to stand next to forever.
Ahh, true love!
I served with a guy in the Navy who was, and I am not kidding you, 4'6". Five inches shorter than Judy Garland. Shorter than I was in sixth grade at age 11. He didn't even come up to my armpit...or most guys' waists. I could lean on his head. And did. He was born physically male, there wasn't a thing wrong with him, he isn't a dwarf or a mutant, and nobody mistakes him for a little boy. We gave him ->-bleeped-<- about his height because...well, because we were in the military, and if we hadn't, that would have been remarkable. But he was totally cool with it, brimming with confidence, and got as many girls as any other guy there (i.e. a lot).
Believe me, you can be a man and be short.
I also hate my height. Just a couple inches, two or three really. The funny thing is that all the guys at my work are around the same height and we all hate it, though more different reasons. My co-worker is exactly my height, my manager at most two inches taller, and my master is only an inch taller than me.
None the less we've found people judge your age more by personality than looks, unless we're talking first impression. My manager and I get mistaken for being usually three years older than we are, my co-worker five years younger (he's kinda an obvious party person along with other things) and my master is always thought to be exactly his age. The best thing, any of these guys are so completely capable of beating the crap out of anyone who may try to ->-bleeped-<- with them despite other various social stereotypes or stigmas for being less than masculine.
Quote from: JosephKT on September 07, 2010, 01:59:30 AM
None the less we've found people judge your age more by personality than looks, unless we're talking first impression.
This always seems to work strangely for me. I have piercings (facial), facial hair and tattoos that are completely visible on my arm and neck but still get mistaken for a teenager. I don't really understand that. How many 17 year old guys have all of that going on? It isn't like I ran out on my 18th birthday, got 2 visible tattoos (4 depending on how I'm dressed) and 4 facial piercings within a week.
To top it off I dress in clothes that fit well, aren't a common teenage style (like button up shirts or plain tshirts and pants that fit me) and don't really give off any kind of party vibe beyond the tats/piercing thing. I have normal hair cuts, normal dye jobs, etc.
It always blows my mind. I know with most things people are required to ID you... but for example, when I buy a lighter? A LIGHTER?!?! Or a can of spray paint? At that point I just want to smack some people.
Quote from: Cowboi on September 07, 2010, 03:06:40 AM
This always seems to work strangely for me. I have piercings (facial), facial hair and tattoos that are completely visible on my arm and neck but still get mistaken for a teenager. I don't really understand that. How many 17 year old guys have all of that going on? It isn't like I ran out on my 18th birthday, got 2 visible tattoos (4 depending on how I'm dressed) and 4 facial piercings within a week.
I don't have any piercings or tats but I do rock somewhat longer hair, wear skinny jeans, t-shirts, converse, etc. So yeah I may dress younger than I am but hell there's lots of old people that wear converse at least lol. People as a whole make so many judgments just based off of looks or attire. That's the real problem there.
Wow, im glad im not the only one that has anxiety about their hieght.
Its was bugs me most, cause I can't help it. I can't change it, I always be a little man, a short guy and I mean SHORT. Not short for a guy, short for a girl.
:(
Everyday I deal with everybody being taller than me, having bigger hands, bigger feet, longer arms, longer legs...and some days its gets me so down I just hate it...
I feel that because of my lack of height, I have to do other things to make up for it.
Like I work out, but mostly on my upper body, to have big muscles to make up for my shortness.
In high school I had gotten this little person big personality award, but I've changed a lot and idk if I still have that charming charisma everybody liked.
I try to be confident, but its so overpowering it gets me way down.
I see guys around my height, but they're still taller than me. And I don't look asian enough to blame it on that. One thing that made my day yesterday was I was actually taller than a biomale! He was older, like 40s, and asian but not hunched over or anything. But it still wasn't enough to make me feel good about myself, or just be ok.
That blog is somewhat of an inspiration, but those guys aren't short to me. Short is under 5'3" to me, for a guy.
Quote from: Fencesitter on September 06, 2010, 02:44:25 PM
My father has almost the same problem as you, he's a little bit taller but chubby. He goes clothes shopping in Strasbourg (France) as French male clothes tend to have smaller sizes. Maybe you can find an online shopping solution from a French, Italian etc. online shop. Mediterranean guys are often small.
Yeah, My father's French. So, he's small too, only about 5'4" or so...but that's a good idea to look online for French stores that might sell clothing in smaller sizes for smaller men! Thanks for that!
Quote from: insideontheoutside on September 07, 2010, 12:30:37 PM
I don't have any piercings or tats but I do rock somewhat longer hair, wear skinny jeans, t-shirts, converse, etc. So yeah I may dress younger than I am but hell there's lots of old people that wear converse at least lol. People as a whole make so many judgments just based off of looks or attire. That's the real problem there.
People are going to go on reading messages in what others wear so long as people insist that what they wear is a form of self-expression. You can't have it both ways: either what you wear is a unique expression of your individuality, or what you wear doesn't mean anything.
Quote from: kyril on September 07, 2010, 07:58:34 PM
People are going to go on reading messages in what others wear so long as people insist that what they wear is a form of self-expression. You can't have it both ways: either what you wear is a unique expression of your individuality, or what you wear doesn't mean anything.
Self expression has a very broad definition. I like wearing what I wear, I feel I look good in what I wear and if I feel like I look good it gives me confidence. I'm personally not trying to be outlandish or make a statement, so it's not exactly an extreme form of self expression for me. I also change attire when appropriate. I wouldn't wear a printed t-shirt to a business meeting but I'll certainly wear that for regular daily activities. Some people out there consider t-shirts, hoodies, tight jeans, sneakers, etc. "young people" attire. I can't change their minds. When you're 16 and you're going out of your way to dye your hair a wacky color, get obvious piercings and dress a certain way, that's also a form of self expression just like dressing in cardigans and tweed jackets is too. The point is, people look at someone and all they have to go by is physical looks and attire until they start to talk to them, interact, and get to know them. So therefore tons of people make initial judgments on that. Whether you let those people's judgments affect your daily life is more the issue I think.
Quote from: Femboy on September 05, 2010, 05:40:26 PM
And it sucks cause guys out there don't see what they have, they're not happy with being 5'5". It seems like we never appreciate what we have, we always want more.
I've tried dying my hair, cutting it different ways, dressing with a different style..
It's true, we always want more. I'm 5'7", which is average I guess, but it doesn't stop me wishing I was just a few inches taller. Partly because I feel like I'd have ended up a few inches taller if I'd had T in my system during puberty. But what's done is done, so I find it's best not to dwell on things I can't change.
If it's any consolation, my height doesn't help me 'pass' for my age. I always get read as a tall 13-14 year old. Cutting my hair and changing my clothes hasn't made a difference either. Ah well, I get to embarrass people when they ask a 20 year old if their parents are there to sign paperwork at the doctor's office. (I try to look on the bright side of things.) :laugh: