Pretty much as the title says. Why do you want one, or not want one...what are the health risks associated either way. I've seen/heard alot of guys keep those bits and have no issues...we all know the story of some guys who have gotten pregnant long after starting T. Most famous would be Mr. Beaty.
So...what about you? I hear lots of talk about chests and dicks...but very little about this important surgery/step.
For me hysto is very important, knowing I have 'female' organs there makes me very dysphoric.
Getting a Hysto is one of the next things on my check list. I believe in order for me to change my gender marker in my state a i need to get a hysto.
Also my endo told me its really pretty important to get a hysto for medical reasons. I'm not really sure EXACTLY what they are because i wasn't paying attention like i should have been but I believe when taking T you have a higher chance of getting cancer (ovarian i believe). I'm sure some one knows more about the subject then myself and they will be able to help you better with those details.
Assuming your on T or planning on it, T works better and more efficiently when it doesn't have to fight off the estrogen being made or whatever. (def not a science person so my terms might be off) Theres a couple guys on youtube who talk about this, if you want a link to one of their videos, PM me.
Some people dont want to get a hysto because they want to have children, whether they want to carry it, or they just want their eggs harvested (which after you start T isnt that great of an idea anymore). Personally, I DEF dont want to carry a child. I will either adopt or my brother has offered to be a sperm donor to me, depends on my significant other really.
hope this helps, kind of got side tracked, if you have any questions PM and i can give you some extra info.
Personally, I want a hysto .... I so hate having a monthly reminder of my period ... I am pre-T but I just don't want those female parts in me. I am pass age to have children...so cut it out!!!
Personally I would love to get a hysto. The idea of having my female organs still in me doesn't seem like a pleasant idea at all if I transition. But I'm the kind of person that wants to get all the facts first. I mean I know people who have gone through hystos for non trans reasons and their hormones have been seriously messed with. I don't know if taking T would help stabilize some part of that or what but I would definitely have to do some research before I made any decisions.
I grabbed this info off a wiki for FTM SRS
"Some trans men desire to have a hysterectomy/BSO because of a discomfort with having internal female reproductive organs despite the fact that menses usually cease with hormonal therapy. Some undergo this as their only gender-identity confirming 'bottom surgery'. In other cases, sterilization may be required by the state in order for the sex marker on official documents to be corrected.
For many trans men however, hysterectomy/BSO is done to decrease the risk of developing cervical, endometrial, and ovarian cancer . (Though like breast cancer, the risk does not become zero, but is drastically decreased.) It is unknown whether the risk of ovarian cancer is increased, decreased, or unchanged in transgender men compared to the general female population. The risk will probably never be known since the overall population of transgender men is very small; even within the population of transgender men on hormone therapy, many patients are at significantly decreased risk due to prior oophorectomy (removal of the ovaries). While the rates of endometrial and cervical cancer are overall higher than ovarian cancer, and these malignancies occur in younger people, it is still highly unlikely that this question will ever be definitively answered.
Decreasing cancer risk is however, particularly important as trans men often feel uncomfortable seeking gynecologic care, and many do not have access to adequate and culturally sensitive treatment. Though ideally, even after hysterectomy/BSO, trans men should see a gynecologist for a check-up at least every three years. This is particularly the case for trans men who:
retain their vagina (whether before or after further genital reconstruction,)
have a strong family history or cancers of the breast, ovary, or uterus (endometrium,)
have a personal history of gynecological cancer or significant dysplasia on a Pap smear.
One important consideration is that any trans man who develops vaginal bleeding after successfully ceasing menses on testosterone, must be evaluated by a gynecologist. This is equivalent to post-menopausal bleeding in a cisgendered woman and may herald the development of a gynecologic cancer."
I plan to get a hysto, though I don't have any plans for bottom surgery or T (though T may change, probably not, but maybe). I'm not particularly bottom dysphoric, but the insides kill me (I've got killer PMDD, so I just want it gone).
I do plan to do the whole egg harvesting thing pre-hysto though, since my SO and I do want children - and she's determined to have at least one who looks like me.
I might be one of the few that aren't too eager to get a hysto ???. For reasons that I might want to have biological kids one day (through ovarian tissue preservation) and that someone released an article on here that was on a lab test done on female rats. The test altered a gene in the female rats causing their ovaries to gradually "transform" into testes (I think the opposite happened to the male rats). The testes were able to at least produce testosterone, but I can't remember about producing sperm. For those reasons, I find myself wanting to hang onto them for a tad longer in case technology speeds up in this department ;D.
I've wanted one since I learned that female-bodied people could get pregnant. It's something I never ever want to happen to me. Since I have PCOS there may be health risks associated with keeping it (for you as well, since you're having problems), so I may be able to get it covered under insurance if I'm lucky.
There is also a lot of talk about things getting cancerous after being on T for a while, but as far as I know there is no medical evidence to back this up.
I want a partial hysto, I want the uterus gone. I never want to get pregnant. But I did read that article about the rats too, and it'd be great if that were possible for me one day.
Hysto was the first thing I did! ;D
All things considered, I do think that most guys should get it done at some point, especially if they have no attachment to it, don't plan to use it, and are healthier enough to get it done, and can afford to get it done.
My reason: cancer prevention. These parts do cause issues in women, and they can cause issues in us guys as well. And ovarian cancer is silent until it is advanced.
Jay
Here's the post with all the articles on the rats:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,69346.msg468873.html#msg468873 (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,69346.msg468873.html#msg468873)
Apparently it won't cover sperm-production, but it was said that it creates the sperm-producing structure (confusing :o). Some of the info on the articles are a bit off (the timesonline one seemed to have outdated/misinformed info on what FtMs experience with testosterone), but it's nice to see progress in this area ;D.
I hate them, have always hated them and want every bit out of me. I've felt this way even as a child once I learned I had those organs. It made me sick and felt very, very wrong when I learned about them. Then, when I learned what they did... :P.
FYI about the rat tests. If they could get sperm to develop in the old ovaries(?) they would most likely be dead or not live long at all. Human sperm dies at body temperature. That's why testicles are outside of the body- it keeps them cooler. The ovaries(?) could maybe produce enough natural T but don't get your hopes up on live, functioning sperm.
I want it gone! I just don't like the stuff comes out of it once a month. I don't think I've ever cared for it and I was horribly embarrassed when I first started puberty. My mom had a full hysto and other than having to take hormone pills, she's fine. She had something wrong with her ovaries and uterus to the point where parts of her uterus were falling out....something that turns out just might be hereditary and I also don't want to have to deal with that.
Mine is gone after a long battle to have it removed. It is the best thing I ever did. No more pain, iffy periods, lifelong backaches, dead body smell, fear, ....., it is just a great relief.
Quote from: Radar on September 22, 2010, 08:57:22 PM
FYI about the rat tests. If they could get sperm to develop in the old ovaries(?) they would most likely be dead or not live long at all. Human sperm dies at body temperature. That's why testicles are outside of the body- it keeps them cooler. The ovaries(?) could maybe produce enough natural T but don't get your hopes up on live, functioning sperm.
Yeah they said that they couldn't produce sperm (at this point ;D I'm just a wishful thinker). However, considering that they could be similar to bio-male testes, surgery could possibly be done to have the balls "drop" into where they would go for bio-males (labial skin = sack). So in other words, I'm hoping they can be put down there instead of the implants offered to FtMs for bottom surgery.
Quote from: Meepit on September 22, 2010, 10:52:51 PMHowever, considering that they could be similar to bio-male testes, surgery could possibly be done to have the balls "drop" into where they would go for bio-males (labial skin = sack).
I've thought about that too. Sadly, none of us will probably see it. It will take a long time for science to advance that far. Plus, our predicament isn't exactly one of the top priorities in science or medicine. :-\ Then if it can be done it probably won't be covered by insurance and will cost a
fortune.
So, I expect nothing and want everything removed. I'm not going to wait on a possibility that will probably never happen or something I can't afford.
Kvall, they can do a complete removal now (including ovaries) through the vagina. No invasive surgery and quick healing time. My manager at work had this done. There's big advances now with hysterectomies.
I'm pretty sure Beatty went off T to get pregnant.
Anyway, yes, I want to get rid of those parts. I doubt I'll be able to get something like that in my lifetime. They just disgust me, to think about them and know they are there. Also, if I get the ovaries removed I could lower my T dose. Don't want there to be any chance of pregancy, and ASAP I would like to get the vagina removed. It disgusts me so much and serves absolutely no purpose beyond that.
All the usual surgery risks are involved with this.
I want mine out out out as soon as possible...I certainly don't plan on using it again after this :P
I just want the ovaries out, well, at least. They're the ones causing all the trouble anyway. They release female hormones causing me to bleed every month. that's the only time i really have bottom dysphoria.
I just got home from mine...
I am so tired and swollen and sore that ever moment spent moving is horrid.. (and sneezing is like a knife to the gut!)
But I'm so happy to be rid of these parts!
The safety of being rid of the parts... the reassurance that these, the most feminine of things.. are gone!
Never have to hop up into the gyno chair! Ever again!
Your results may vary!
Full hysto AND vaginectomy.. got rid of it all! Thats what i did, best thing i ever did. In my experience i'm finding that T is fastly more effective once rid of the ovaries.
I'd like the ovaries out, but the uterus can stay as long as it doesn't cause any problems. I don't know how the rest of my organs would react to the sudden empty space, and if the ovaries are gone it's not going to function anyway.
Quote from: j83 on September 24, 2010, 02:12:35 PM
Full hysto AND vaginectomy.. got rid of it all! Thats what i did, best thing i ever did. In my experience i'm finding that T is fastly more effective once rid of the ovaries.
I am curious how you managed that since your urethra is actually tucked up inside the vagina be a bit. When I asked about it I was told the risk of bleeding with a vaginectomy was pretty high and that I wouldn't find someone to do it unless there was a medical need other than GID.
Quote from: LordKAT on September 24, 2010, 04:08:22 PM
I am curious how you managed that since your urethra is actually tucked up inside the vagina be a bit. When I asked about it I was told the risk of bleeding with a vaginectomy was pretty high and that I wouldn't find someone to do it unless there was a medical need other than GID.
I had urethral hookup via phallo, from what i can remember though in the first stage they removed a 'cuff' of the vagina along with the hysto and phallo, then 2nd stage was vaginectomy and urethral hookup. It's not the norm, i asked specifically to have it removed cause i really didn't want it being there. There is indeed a high risk of bleeding with a vaginectomy though, as well as the risk of bladder and/or bowel perforation. I lost a fair amount of blood but thankfully didn't need a transfusion in the end.
Fair enough. You hadn't mentioned having a phallo nor meta so I mistakenly assumed you did not have either done. My apologies about that.
I'm gonna come back to this...
And there'll be a bit of TMI, so.. read at your own risk.
I had my ovaries, womb, and cervix, all removed.
I still have the bonus hole, and in fact, at this moment, it doesn't really bother me.
One of the weirdest things however.
I get home.
I'm drugged.
I'm hurting like hell.
I'm half unconscious.
And I'm horny.
I mean.
I had a libido pre-T, but when I started T, my libido dropped to "nil".
I can't explain how or why, and in fact, I think it's at least partially psycho-somatic.
I've been "Terrified" of the theoretical possibility that I could get preggers.
I've been Incredibly stressed by the prospect that I would have to get pap smears.
Now those two are gone.
I don't think I realized even how stressing those parts were for me.
My current operational theory is that removing the parts = dropped the stress = relaxed restraint on libido.
And now I'm in a hurry to heal up cause I can't do anything about it yet, cause "everything" is too sore.