So I've been on oral E and spiro for just over 10 months now. I have finally decided to start on the injectable estrogen bandwagon to see if I get more results with both breast development and body fat redistribution.
My doc gave me my new prescription and I felt all giddy like I did when I started HRT almost a year ago, kind of funny. =)
Here's hoping I see some more and better development in the next 5 months before surgery.
I was on oral and patches for 10 months and I talked my doc into injectables 6 weeks ago. My wife swears I am rapidly changing now in comparision to when I was on oral and patches.
At 29 months on the oral, I doubt that injectables will do any more for me. Having my Orchie was the nest thing I could have done for my development.
Thanks Cynthia! Good to hear. That's what I'm hoping for hehe
Jerica you look fabulous as is. I doubt you have any need to worry. You will continue to get good results I am sure.
Quote from: cynthialee on October 05, 2010, 04:28:11 PM
Jerica you look fabulous as is. I doubt you have any need to worry. You will continue to get good results I am sure.
aww thanks girl =) I would mostly like to not have to wear these handicapped padded bras all the time. It's sort of disappointing taking off your bra for a guy and they're so much smaller than they looked :P
Hi sister Jerica, good luck to you, wish you have sexy body...hihi :-* :-* :-*
bye
Quote from: Sada on October 08, 2010, 12:09:13 AM
Jerica bow chicka wow wow~^^ Yes, injectables they hit fast and hard. The first week I still remember my nipples hurt so so bad. More risks, but faster results. I think though it depends on your age when you start HRT as to what they give you. Anyway let us know if you feel any difference since you were on oral. ;)
you know I will! =)
I'm on injectables I dunno about more development. :-\ I'm still not even an A 9 months in so *shrug* although I do have some small hips and alot of ass coming along.
In threoy it's supposed to develop your whole body equally but I swear in practice it's like this.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.transe-generation.com%2Fimage.php%3Fwidth%3D500%26amp%3Bheight%3D500%26amp%3Bimage%3D%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2Fmtfjoke23.jpg&hash=00ccb2f8538082c7ff0b0950a36afc54552e6a31)
I would gladly have a big butt like the second cartoon. At least it gets read female. I have like almost no ass whatsoever.
REALLY nice job on the cartoon, BTW...
oh the cartoon was from here
http://www.transe-generation.com/default.php (http://www.transe-generation.com/default.php)
Quote from: Sada on October 08, 2010, 12:09:13 AM
Yes, injectables they hit fast and hard. (...) More risks, but faster results.
Actually they are supposed to be more safe if you don't OD. This is because the coagulation factors, which are responsible for an increased risk of blood clotting is produced in the liver and the injectables don't go through the liver before the estrogen is spread in the body like oral medications do. Thus they are theoretically a lot less prone to side effects such as blood clotting.
Unfortunately many doctors don't use them for two reasons
1. is lack of knowledge on dosing injectables and lack of confidence in the transsexuals ability to administer the injections
2. is that anonymous studies have revealed some transwomen doing extraordinarily high dosing up to 30x what they agreed on with their doctors, which is plain stupid because OD'ing impairs the end result and causes severe health risks.
It is never advisable to OD on hormones. One reason being that your breast development will not get the same quality regarding fullness and shape as if you let it follow a slower pace. A transsexual development of usually 2-3 years is already way more fast than a natural pubertal development, which takes some 6-8 years! Quality takes time.
The exception for going slow may be if you are already 35+ years old or something like that because then your tissue sensitivity decreases rapidly, and it becomes a question of how much time you can afford on your development.
Tippe
Quote from: pebbles on October 09, 2010, 07:36:46 AM
I'm on injectables I dunno about more development. :-\ I'm still not even an A 9 months in so *shrug* although I do have some small hips and alot of ass coming along.
In threoy it's supposed to develop your whole body equally but I swear in practice it's like this.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.transe-generation.com%2Fimage.php%3Fwidth%3D500%26amp%3Bheight%3D500%26amp%3Bimage%3D%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2Fmtfjoke23.jpg&hash=00ccb2f8538082c7ff0b0950a36afc54552e6a31)
nice lol, very cute cartoon. I wouldnt mind a bigger ass though too =)
I've been on orals for 11 days, I see my dr on the 27 and I wanna ask to switch to injections cuz I keep getting confused with pills. She suggested I start with pills but I wanted injections from the start haha.
If my prescriptions arrive today, I can start tomorrow!!! Excited =)
Hopefully they arrive today! "D
Not today. Today is Columbus Day. Banks and the USPS are closed. As are Federal and probably state offices.
Quote from: Britney♥Bieber on October 11, 2010, 12:46:24 PM
I've been on orals for 11 days, I see my dr on the 27 and I wanna ask to switch to injections cuz I keep getting confused with pills. She suggested I start with pills but I wanted injections from the start haha.
If you have trouble remembering if you have taken your pills I'd advice you to talk to your pharmacy. They have special pill boxes split in seven slots as an example. This way you can prepare pills one week at a time and it is easy to see if you have already taken your medication a certain days.
Injectables may be more trouble for you since it is important that you take them at a specific interval, like every fifth monday or something like that. If you have a habbit of forgetting medication your levels will not be stable and you'll get mood swings.
Tippe
Quote from: Tippe on October 12, 2010, 09:14:58 AM
If you have trouble remembering if you have taken your pills I'd advice you to talk to your pharmacy. They have special pill boxes split in seven slots as an example. This way you can prepare pills one week at a time and it is easy to see if you have already taken your medication a certain days.
Injectables may be more trouble for you since it is important that you take them at a specific interval, like every fifth monday or something like that. If you have a habbit of forgetting medication your levels will not be stable and you'll get mood swings.
Tippe
I don't mean I forget. I mean like a few times I've woken up at like 7 and fell back asleep till 10 ish and I was like wait did I take them when I woke up!? Haha
That is where the pill containers help. You just look and see if the days section is gone. I have one that breaks down the day in to for sections.
Quote from: Janet Lynn on October 12, 2010, 11:03:18 AM
That is where the pill containers help. You just look and see if the days section is gone. I have one that breaks down the day in to for sections.
I got one of those also.
Saves me alot of grief.
Yes me too! Day and night slots for every day of the week. I just refill it every saturday night.
I HAD to do this considering all of the vitamins and stuff I'm taking with hormones.
Never missed a dose in 10+ months ;) Today was the first day I didn't take my E pill....cuz my injectables arrived! So my adopted mom is coming over to inject me tonight. =)
Jericaaaa congrats! Tell me how it goes, how the pain is etc. :D
Quote from: Jerica on October 12, 2010, 05:38:31 PM
Yes me too! Day and night slots for every day of the week. I just refill it every saturday night.
I HAD to do this considering all of the vitamins and stuff I'm taking with hormones.
Never missed a dose in 10+ months ;) Today was the first day I didn't take my E pill....cuz my injectables arrived! So my adopted mom is coming over to inject me tonight. =)
I am excited for you.
(wierd, I dont even know you, lol)
Quote from: Britney♥Bieber on October 12, 2010, 05:44:33 PM
Jericaaaa congrats! Tell me how it goes, how the pain is etc. :D
I can tell you the pain varies depending on certain factors. thus is anywhere between a 3 (sharp nip) or an 8 (big bubba tearing you an new a-hole)
Factors in order of the pain they cause.
1: Coring issues (dull needle low gauge, think pushing a straw through a potato) :o
2: Inserted wonky pulled out straight (thus scratching open the entry wound.)
3: Tensing the muscle (this also makes it go in wonky don't do it standing up)
4: impaling a blood vessel (thus requiring you to do it all again! lol)
5: inital insersion too slow (most sensation is in the top 4mm of your skin)
6: impaling a minor nerve
7: Injecting too fast or too slow
Quote from: pebbles on October 13, 2010, 06:10:28 AM
I can tell you the pain varies depending on certain factors. thus is anywhere between a 3 (sharp nip) or an 8 (big bubba tearing you an new a-hole)
Factors in order of the pain they cause.
1: Coring issues (dull needle low gauge, think pushing a straw through a potato) :o
2: Inserted wonky pulled out straight (thus scratching open the entry wound.)
3: Tensing the muscle (this also makes it go in wonky don't do it standing up)
4: impaling a blood vessel (thus requiring you to do it all again! lol)
5: inital insersion too slow (most sensation is in the top 4mm of your skin)
6: impaling a minor nerve
7: Injecting too fast or too slow
Damn it seems so hard. Idk if I'd be able to do it but I guess the dr will teach me all about it if I switch. Thanks haha
Quote from: pebbles on October 13, 2010, 06:10:28 AM
Factors in order of the pain they cause.
1. Hitting a bone?
Tippe
Well it went off without a hitch. I felt a slight poke and was more surprised than anything, semi-flinched but other than that it was just fine =)
My butt's not even sore today. My lower back hurts though but I'm guessing I did something wrong in yoga.
bye
So Day 2: I started to feel soreness on my butt where the shot went...but it just felt like muscle soreness, like I'd worked out.
Day 1 and 2 I have noticed some more emotions flowing, even started getting choked up during my latest Autotransography video but that was also due to the content.
Day 2 I also felt some soreness in other places, my love handle area for some reason and my left hand feels like tendinitis felt. Not sure if that's related or from yoga or something.
Day 3 today: We'll see , this is supposed to be the peak of the week before it starts coming down.
I'm wondering if I'm going to really see a difference in either an E high or E Low.
today I got my 3rd shot (every three weeks)
The first two I noticed emotional changes by the second day after my shot.
I will try and remember to post here about any emo changes I have.
I have noticed that my face looks more femme than ever over the last 2 months.
Nice Cynthia!!!!
I just started injectables as well. Its nice to not have to remember a pill everyday, and I do feel a little more stable emotionally, somewhat. Also the ladies have been getting tender again and I swear getting a little bigger, and they havent felt that way since i started HRT. i just think that the absorption and availability to the body is better, as your liver catches the first pass from orals and breaks alot of it down.
I also get a little sore there after the shot but it goes away within a few days. Im lucky as my sister is a nurse practitioner and can do my shot for me, shes awesome too, barely feel it.
Do any of you start to get crazy hot flashes before your next shot? Ive been getting that way for the last few days and im due for my shot in a few more. lol. oh the joys of womanhood.
Quote from: Tippe on October 13, 2010, 11:00:37 AM
1. Hitting a bone?
Tippe
Hitting bone shouldn't hurt surprisingly enough. In nursing school I gave a someone a shot in the deltoid and was super nervous and nailed the bone. :o She didn't hardly even flinch, and didn't know i hit bone at all. Holy Crap though I sure know I felt it. scared the crap out of me, lol.
For about the first month or so I always felt some kind of soreness back there somewhere after my shot. Lower back pain or butt pain and even thigh pain before. Now I get no pain at all. Not sure what that is all about but glad it stopped. Gave my shot to myself yesterday and feel nothing from it.
Do you have to give the shots in the butt?
Quote from: Britney♥Bieber on October 15, 2010, 04:05:40 PM
Do you have to give the shots in the butt?
any of the large muscles would work. Butt, or thigh is most comon.
Sevan gives me my shots, she is good. I do not even feel it and it was just this morning.
Quote from: cynthialee on October 15, 2010, 04:45:42 PM
any of the large muscles would work. Butt, or thigh is most comon.
Sevan gives me my shots, she is good. I do not even feel it and it was just this morning.
Ohh okay. :D Thanks
and I definitely see a huge "improvement" since I first joined susans and saw your avatar. You look so much prettier and feminine in your current avatar :D Not to say you looked ugly and manly before though lol.
Quote from: Audrey on October 15, 2010, 02:03:46 PM
Hitting bone shouldn't hurt surprisingly enough. In nursing school I gave a someone a shot in the deltoid and was super nervous and nailed the bone. :o She didn't hardly even flinch, and didn't know i hit bone at all. Holy Crap though I sure know I felt it. scared the crap out of me, lol.
Great to see more nurses in here :) Wow that surprises me too, because my teacher said it would be very painful. I haven't done it yet, however.
Quote from: cynthialee on October 15, 2010, 04:45:42 PM
any of the large muscles would work. Butt, or thigh is most comon.
I've been tought to use the butt, because the muscles there move less than in the thigh, which should cause less soreness and because the correct site is further away from nerves and blood vesels. Another thing is that with insulin - which is supposed to go into the fat - if you use a long needle and accidentally hit the muscle underneath studies have shown that the release rate is highly dependant on how active the muscle is. Therefore I would use the butt.
For self-administering I don't know however, because I find it kind of difficult to rotate my hand so much as to do the site measurement on myself.
What do others think about this?
Tippe
hmm i run my ass off at work lol. no wonder im getting hot flashes. prob used my shot up within 2 weeks lol. butt....ya more blood flow would cause increased rates of absorption.
ok that was lame. i better get some sleep.....
Quote from: Audrey on October 16, 2010, 08:14:43 AM
hmm i run my ass off at work lol. no wonder im getting hot flashes. prob used my shot up within 2 weeks lol. butt....ya more blood flow would cause increased rates of absorption.
ok that was lame. i better get some sleep.....
Ha ha, I spoke to a nurse in cardiology about fitness some time ago and she too said nurses don't need any extra exercise :)
Sleep tight.
Tippe
I think I cried like 3 times yesterday. Mostly over just silly ->-bleeped-<-.
I found that it was fairly easy to give myself a shot in the butt. Next week will be slightly more entertaining cause I get to use my other hand but it was kinda fun giving myself the shot!
Well here I am at Day 6 and I noticed my eyebrow hairs had grown in like crazy and my armpit hairs seemed hairer than usual and I had a major hair spot on my chin for the first time in a few months. Not sure if this is related to it being the low end of my shot or not but I found that interesting.
Haven't found a whole lot of mood changes yet but that could happen tomorrow. Tomorrow night, I'll get my next shot of the lower dose again and then next Tuesday, I'll go up to what will most likely be my primary dose.
Note: This weekend, I did feel some breast tenderness and even up to the armpits. I'm also still having soreness in my hands for some reason and I'm not sure if that's related.
bye
Quote from: Sada on October 18, 2010, 11:14:52 PM
You may want a good moisturizer ;) With injections the skin tends to get a little more dry for some reason. Why didn't they start you at the full does? Oh and did you like the 21 gauge needle ^^ I remember my first time. . . I felt like I was at the piercing factory watching that bad-boy going all the way in. :o
I lotion my whole body about every other day...or at least I started to once I heard about the dry skin.
My doc just likes low doses to start with....going from oral to injections is quite different dosage-wise.
Hitting the bone shouldn't hurt, former nurse myself. Puncturing through the bone and sucking out the bone marrow now that hurts. (Had a bone marrow biopsy once)
Anyway back to the topic, can you start on injections? Everyone seems to start on oral and then switches to injections. I am wondering if that is standard procedure or something?
Thanks for clearing that up.
I guess the reason to start on oral hormones is partly to give you time to find out if you like the hormones and to give your doctor time to see if you take them according to prescription or overdose, because it's more difficult for them to control what you do with injections and overdosing is unfortunately rather common among MtF's.
Since they are depot medications you'll find estrogen in the body for as long as half a year after the last dose. That's a long time if you find out that this was not the threatment for you. For this reason starting on oral seems reasonable.
Tippe
Quote from: Sadie on October 19, 2010, 03:04:39 PM
Anyway back to the topic, can you start on injections? Everyone seems to start on oral and then switches to injections. I am wondering if that is standard procedure or something?
Yes I have friends that have started on injections without ever trying oral. It's more of a preference and how comfortable your doctor is.
Quote from: Jerica on October 20, 2010, 09:18:47 AM
Yes I have friends that have started on injections without ever trying oral. It's more of a preference and how comfortable your doctor is.
It took a heart attack and a year of bitching for my doc to switch me to injectables. (lower clotting risk with injectables and transdermals than oral)
So the latest:
As I said in my Hair Extensions video....at the end of my week on the day of my shot but before my shot, I had an all-time low. Course I got hair extensions and they didn't look great at the time and so I was a bit crushed. Cried my eyes out, etc.
Got my E shot and I'm back to normal. My doc suggested taking an E pill on the last day or 2 of the week esp on this lower dosage so I'll be doing that next week.
Today is day 3 of week 2. My bum is more sore than it was last week (left cheek this time). I'm looking forward to the higher dosage next week.
Yes I want to start directly on injections, no messing around with clotting risks.
Watched your video Jerica, liked what you did with the extensions. The curl looks great. :) The Zumba comment cracked me up too.
Quote from: Sadie on October 22, 2010, 11:19:15 AM
Yes I want to start directly on injections, no messing around with clotting risks.
Watched your video Jerica, liked what you did with the extensions. The curl looks great. :) The Zumba comment cracked me up too.
Thanks! hehe. Yeah I was like Zumba *hands wave in the air*...um yeah that's not zumba. lol
Hi Jerica, I am a little late in finding you have started injectables. I give myself a shot in the thigh because it is easy to reach. I have found that I have to be really relaxed so as to avoid flinching muscles which will be sore afterwards and go very slowly while inserting the needle. I push a bit while breathing out and stop while breathing in. It takes a couple of minutes this way but I havent had any pain for some time. I have also noticed the 'hot flashes' from time to time when my levels get low. The other pain in my breast I have grown to like most of the time-except when I am carrying something heavy or bump into something hard-OUCH!
Later Girl,
Randi
Hmm, on injections...do you have to make sure you hit a vein or does it not matter?
Quote from: Aidan_ on October 22, 2010, 03:01:21 PM
Hmm, on injections...do you have to make sure you hit a vein or does it not matter?
It is an IM shot. You dont go for a vein.
Under no circumstances should IM meds be put into a vein! They are only for injection into muscle tissue for GRADUAL release into the bloodstream. Hormones are dangerous if not used in the prescribed manner.
If anyone has any doubt that they are capable of administering the meds properly they should avoid injections altogether.
Randi
Quote from: Gabrielle_Nicole on October 16, 2010, 12:01:52 PM
I found that it was fairly easy to give myself a shot in the butt. Next week will be slightly more entertaining cause I get to use my other hand but it was kinda fun giving myself the shot!
How do you measure out the correct site on yourself? The way I've been tought to measure it would require me to turn my hands 180 degrees around, which is possible, but difficult.
And you're supposed to withdraw a little before injecting - watching for blood - to make sure you didn't hit a vein. But how do you actually watch a syringe which is behind your back? Do you use a mirror for that?
Lastly the muscle should be relaxed all the while...
Injecting in the behind is not difficult in itself, but doing it according to professional standards is I think?
Tippe
Quote from: Randi on October 22, 2010, 05:16:43 PM
Under no circumstances should IM meds be put into a vein! They are only for injection into muscle tissue for GRADUAL release into the bloodstream. Hormones are dangerous if not used in the prescribed manner.
If anyone has any doubt that they are capable of administering the meds properly they should avoid injections altogether.
Randi
Oh, no wonder they go for the rear then.
The thing about injecting in the back is avoiding the Sciatic nerve! You will know when you get there! That is one reason I use the thigh. If you don't know exactly what you are doing consult some who does know. A bit of advice from my martial arts days-a little bit of knowledge will get you killed but more dilligent effort will save your life!
Randi
Wow. Are all girls suddenly switching to IM now??!!!
I just got a prescript for injectables today! I originally planned on going in to meet my new Doc and get my levels done today. :)
I was on Premarin for the longest time and have been wanting to switch for the longest time. I went to check out prices and just about fainted! My Rx is for the estrogen and Prometrium (switching from Spiro). Instead of doing the IM on my own I'll be going to Docs office and one of the nurses will do it for me. Now to find some reasonable prices for my Rx b/c the monthly price for my Rx made my jaws drop!
yeah I have my adopted mom do it. she does a few of my friends too.
At some point I'm going to have to buck up and figure out how to do it in my thigh.
I did flinch both times she's done it, it was involuntary. I'll have to concentrate better next time
Quote from: Jerica on October 23, 2010, 12:51:57 PM
yeah I have my adopted mom do it. she does a few of my friends too.
At some point I'm going to have to buck up and figure out how to do it in my thigh.
I did flinch both times she's done it, it was involuntary. I'll have to concentrate better next time
I can give them to someone else but not myself. If I ever loose Sevan I will have to go back on transdermals.
The emotional lows that you can get go away somewhat by tweaking the doses to your needs and also with time your body becomes more accustomed to the ebb and flow that shots give. It took me about 3-4 months to not feel down, or low energy etc... on the last day. Then when I changed to injecting every two weeks I felt even better. I still get scared and need a moment to chill when injecting myself even after 1.5 years!
Before I learned what worked for me, I was tense and seemingly in a bit of a hurry to get it over with-so I was not relaxed when I did it. Then I realised(after a painful twitching episode) if I used the breathing techniques I learned years before I could control the level of pain if any AND the response of the muscles in my thigh. As long as I am breathing out when I push to insert the needle I am completely relaxed and feel no pain at all. That's not to say the muscle won't jump occasionally-they will but by taking it very slowly and controlling my breath I can stop before I go forward into a tensed muscle. That allows for avoiding putting sideways pressures on the needle and making the muscle sore because of that. It is really not so bad after you work out a routine that works for you.
Randi
Thanks I'll try the breathing thing on Tuesday. Go up to the normal dose this week, yay! My doc said to take an oral E tonight and tomorrow night though so I dont run into that low again
I was blessed with being one of those people who enjoy watching myself get a shot. I give them to myself and it takes about 15 secs total to fill it to the right dose and get it injected in.
I am on a really high dosage, and don't notice any change or lowering of my hormones at the end of the week. For some reason my doctor put me on a weekly shot rotation.
I have noticed significant changes over my entire body over the last two weeks and the lil girls are ALWAYS insanely sore now.
I wonder if anybody have experience with polyestradiol phosphate? It's the only injectable form of estrogen marketed in my country since estradiol valerate was discontinued.
Tippe
Yeah just to re-iterate whats been said above; Make sure you hit the muscle with the right length needle or expect some bad results ;P
When I was self medicating before my final diagnosis that gave me a prescription I did my first injection of Progynon Depot(inject-able peanut oil based estrogen) subcutaneously(under the skin like insulin) instead of inter-muscularly(IM) and ended up with the following levels that were taken 16 hours after the injection:
Estrogen: 5865
Testosterone: 0.6
If you dont know blood levels, thats waaaaaaaay to high for Estrogen & was in fact the highest he had seen, thankfully got good advice from my endo & swapped to 1.5" needles for the following injections so i actually hit the muscle ;p. (btw for reference I was of course on estrogen before the first injection, oral - estrofem - but at very normal dose.)
Oh and yeah when I injected it I broke out in a cold hard sweat, had some fairly intense symptoms for about 15mins but all went down by 30mins later; Thank god im not to old and croaky at 25 but I guess being a smoker cant help and he said that would of really shocked an older persons body :/
Quote from: JasminB on November 03, 2010, 06:46:32 AM
Yeah just to re-iterate whats been said above; Make sure you hit the muscle with the right length needle or expect some bad results ;P
When I was self medicating before my final diagnosis that gave me a prescription I did my first injection of Progynon Depot(inject-able peanut oil based estrogen) subcutaneously(under the skin like insulin) instead of inter-muscularly(IM) and ended up with the following levels that were taken 16 hours after the injection:
Estrogen: 5865
Testosterone: 0.6
If you dont know blood levels, thats waaaaaaaay to high for Estrogen & was in fact the highest he had seen, thankfully got good advice from my endo & swapped to 1.5" needles for the following injections so i actually hit the muscle ;p. (btw for reference I was of course on estrogen before the first injection, oral - estrofem - but at very normal dose.)
Oh and yeah when I injected it I broke out in a cold hard sweat, had some fairly intense symptoms for about 15mins but all went down by 30mins later; Thank god im not to old and croaky at 25 but I guess being a smoker cant help and he said that would of really shocked an older persons body :/
Oh wow....How would you even know if you've hit a muscle? Do you pull back the syringe some to see if a lot of blood comes out..or what?
I talk about my latest experience in this video:
When you know it's a dream (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZnS2-XIP_8#)
Quote from: Aidan_ on November 03, 2010, 08:34:58 AM
How would you even know if you've hit a muscle? Do you pull back the syringe some to see if a lot of blood comes out..or what?
You need some training to find the correct site safely.
Ask your nurse or doctor to teach it to you.
Tippe
Quote from: Tippe on November 03, 2010, 09:19:30 AM
You need some training to find the correct site safely.
Ask your nurse or doctor to teach it to you.
Tippe
Okie. I'm not sure if they're going to put me on injections or not...but I will volunteer for them!
Oh and I know this is a bit off-topic Jerica, but if I may say so, your voice is very neat! I like it! Did you go to a voice therapist or did you achieve that on your own? o.o
Hi,Jerica
I'm a newbie so I just noticed this post. I was recommended by my Dr to administer in the thigh muscle (largest) or the bicep muscle. The reason being, is there is more fat deposits in your rear and some of the fat may absorb the Estradiol making it not as effective. just some FYI
I have been on IM for about 6-months now, every two weeks. I have just gotten use to giving myself injections, but still a bit nervous at times.
I have never been one to fear shots, but that first one I gave my self must of took 45 minutes. I tried 4-5 times to poke my leg but my reflexes stopped me. :o
Mine is in caster oil, it literally takes 7 minutes to fill the syringe, and then you have to inject slowly. Oh and YES don't hit a bone :o
Shelly
bye
I think things are under control at this point. I've been getting these for over a month , almost 2 , now. Just need to get the dosage right....hope my doc comes out of paternity leave soon.....
I seem to have found my right dose and timing. Just needed to mess with it a bit to find out.
bye
Quote from: pebbles on October 09, 2010, 07:36:46 AM
I'm on injectables I dunno about more development. :-\ I'm still not even an A 9 months in so *shrug* although I do have some small hips and alot of ass coming along.
In threoy it's supposed to develop your whole body equally but I swear in practice it's like this.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.transe-generation.com%2Fimage.php%3Fwidth%3D500%26amp%3Bheight%3D500%26amp%3Bimage%3D%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2Fmtfjoke23.jpg&hash=00ccb2f8538082c7ff0b0950a36afc54552e6a31)
Dude I don't care at all about boobs. B, max. A booty on the other hand, is the only thing I've ever actually dreamed of consistently throughout my life.