I'm just wondering, masturbating reduces or triggers the rush of male hormones in the body? Is it good/bad/neutral to masturbate while on HRT (Estrogen+T & DHT blockers)?
It's nothing. Masturbate all you want or don't masturbate at all - it won't make any significant difference.
It's a normal body function. If you don't do it for a while, it might be painful when you do. That's normal. Some suggest that masturbating can increase the probability that you'll be able to orgasm after SRS. Bottom line, don't worry about it, but if you do worry, then ask your doctor.
I'm sorry, but really? Since when has masturbation been dangerous? Aren't there studies proving the benefits of masturbation...
Thank god, what a relief!! >:-)
lol
Quote from: Rini on January 12, 2011, 06:29:04 PM
I'm sorry, but really? Since when has masturbation been dangerous?
Well, masturbating while attempting to cross the Grand Canyon on a high wire might be considered dangerous, as is masturbating into the mouth of a tiger. Other than that I think that it's fine! :laugh:
Quote from: MillieB on January 12, 2011, 07:01:38 PM
Well, masturbating while attempting to cross the Grand Canyon on a high wire might be considered dangerous, as is masturbating into the mouth of a tiger. Other than that I think that it's fine! :laugh:
Oh great. Now i have to find new ways to masturbate safely ;D ;D Thanks alot Millie ;D
Is this dangerous?
Highliner (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90xfWYnz9KM#)
I mean, for pre-op trans women on HRT?
Quote from: MillieB on January 12, 2011, 07:01:38 PM
Well, masturbating while attempting to cross the Grand Canyon on a high wire might be considered dangerous, as is masturbating into the mouth of a tiger. Other than that I think that it's fine! :laugh:
Ok, I see your point. However I'm very picky with my dangerous masturbating sessions...I mean crossing the Grand Canyon WHILE masturbating into the mouth of an albino liger.
@Alyssa M
That gave me a cold chill all the way down my spine!
Masturbation is my preferred cardio workout routine.
:D :D
Well you know, men have been known to masturbate with the aid of hoover, steel pipe & I think I read once swimming pool water in/outtake hole, and ending up in aid of medics / firefighters. So you might want to afford those too. ;)
Quote from: Keroppi on January 12, 2011, 07:37:37 PM
Well you know, men have been known to masturbate with the aid of hoover, steel pipe & I think I read once swimming pool water in/outtake hole, and ending up in aid of medics / firefighters.
I blame this on a lack of education in basic human physiology. When there is too much pressure on the erectile tissue, the blood cannot circulate. This causes the tissue to swell, which puts even more pressure on the object putting pressure on the tissue in the first place. The end result is a very difficult and embarrassing explanation that most certainly will not fool the emergency medics.
From time to time I hear this question being asked. Women are concerned that they will excrete their estrogen when they ejaculate. Or they are concerned that ejaculating will induce testosterone iproduction. Endocronologically I don't feel that these concerns have merit.
I will admit though that when I was pre op, that the act of masturbating was angst producing, due to my gender dysphoria.
Quote from: peggygee on January 12, 2011, 08:27:20 PMWomen are concerned that they will excrete their estrogen when they ejaculate. Or they are concerned that ejaculating will induce testosterone iproduction.
I don't know about excreting estrogen, but I find it unlikely. If anything, the low quantity of ejaculate would lead us to assume that losing estrogen via ejaculation would be less of a concern than losing estrogen through urine. Then again, you know what they say about assumptions...
As far as ejaculation inducing testosterone production, there isn't any science that I know of that would support that conclusion.
What do you do about the warts? :D
-Sandy
YES!
very dangerous, you could go blind. :o
Didn't your Mother tell you! ;D
I do it out of necessity for pleasure very rarely.
I do it mostly because I don't want the little thing shriveling up, I still need it for better things down the road.
Anyways it takes FOREVER to climax but, when I do ITS WORTH IT :o
I dont know if it is dangerous. But since I started spironolactone almost a month and a half now, I never had the feeling that I want to do it. Lolz . .I mean, it's not a part of my stuff now. I dont even get hard at all.
Quote from: Rini on January 12, 2011, 06:29:04 PM
I'm sorry, but really? Since when has masturbation been dangerous?
Chaffing. ...and all that friction could start a fire, too. How do you think they came up with the idea of starting a fire by "rubbing two sticks together"?
Quote from: n00bsWithBoobs on January 12, 2011, 10:43:41 PM
Chaffing. ...and all that friction could start a fire, too. How do you think they came up with the idea of starting a fire by "rubbing two sticks together"?
I seem to be immune to that effect, as my skin is smooth enough that it doesn't cause much friction.
Also, you won't start a friction fire by masturbating. Human skin isn't very flammable. You would cause yourself very painful friction burns before you could build up enough heat to ignite anything.
I doubt very seriously that it is dangerous. In fact if you have been in HRT for quite a while you will get shrinkage. You may wish to "use it or lose it". Remember it may become your neo-vagina. And you don't want to "come up short". ;D
@ Alyssa. OMFG. :o :o :o :o
Being a very mechanical type of girl I will just say, "changing your oil on a regular basis, keeps the motor running and happy for the long haul"
As already mentioned, masturbating is a very good way to ensure you will be orgasmic after vaginoplasty. If you don't keep those nerves exercised, they will "forget" their function and you may find yourself unable to orgasm at some point.
Quote from: peggygee on January 12, 2011, 08:27:20 PM
I will admit though that when I was pre op, that the act of masturbating was angst producing, due to my gender dysphoria.
The only time this was the case for me was when I went to the sperm bank immediately before taking my first dose of HRT to save some, er, stuff. The clinic had stalls with porn (Hustler mags) and no where to lie down, and no pillows. It was wrong wrong wrong; I never once masturbated with my hands in my life. Eww. Never that way. I had big time dysphoria trying to get myself to produce stuff for them to save.
Quote from: girl_ashley on January 13, 2011, 12:00:07 PM
As already mentioned, masturbating is a very good way to ensure you will be orgasmic after vaginoplasty. If you don't keep those nerves exercised, they will "forget" their function and you may find yourself unable to orgasm at some point.
That doesn't sound medically accurate. Nerves will only atrophy if they don't have sufficient blood supply; they are unable to 'forget' their function, as they are little more than conductors (like a piece of copper wire).
Quote from: TraciMC on January 13, 2011, 07:14:58 PM
The only time this was the case for me was when I went to the sperm bank immediately before taking my first dose of HRT to save some, er, stuff. The clinic had stalls with porn (Hustler mags) and no where to lie down, and no pillows. It was wrong wrong wrong; I never once masturbated with my hands in my life. Eww. Never that way. I had big time dysphoria trying to get myself to produce stuff for them to save.
At least yours had some simulating material for the majority of its clients, the one I went to didn't have anything and you have the choice of a toilet or the neighbouring small rooms with big windows right across other offices... :o
Wow I thought mine was bad. It wouldn't kill them to set up private stalls, I would have thought.
Quote from: Vexing on January 13, 2011, 07:34:53 PM
That doesn't sound medically accurate. Nerves will only atrophy if they don't have sufficient blood supply; they are unable to 'forget' their function, as they are little more than conductors (like a piece of copper wire).
I think this is largely anecdotal.
"Many post-operative people report that the ability to have orgasm as a woman is directly related to whether your body remembers how to orgasm at all. It appears that having orgasms up to the time of surgery allows orgasms to continue after surgery." (https://www.susans.org/reference/hormones/hormoneb.html (https://www.susans.org/reference/hormones/hormoneb.html))
If anything, I could imagine that the inability to orgasm would be caused either by nerve damage or was a mental block. Any area can be an erogenous zone given time, patience, and conditioning. Just like how people in paraplegics can have sex by having their earlobes caressed (I'd say this is bull too if I didn't have a girlfriend who dished about her boyfriend). However, since all I have is anecdotal evidence myself, I can't do anything but conjecture.
Quote from: Janet Lynn on January 12, 2011, 11:41:09 PM
I doubt very seriously that it is dangerous. In fact if you have been in HRT for quite a while you will get shrinkage. You may wish to "use it or lose it". Remember it may become your neo-vagina. And you don't want to "come up short". ;D
@ Alyssa. OMFG. :o :o :o :o
Yep, I heard the same thing... some say it's good to 'stretch' it every now and then as it's said to combat shrinkage.. but the thought of it is kind of silly.
Masturbation can kill...especially if you insist on doing it in your car at 70mph and it goes off explosively, getting in your eyes and causing you to swerve across 3 lanes of traffic.
Quote from: Helena on January 14, 2011, 12:48:24 PM
Masturbation can kill...especially if you insist on doing it in your car at 70mph and it goes off explosively, getting in your eyes and causing you to swerve across 3 lanes of traffic.
I *hate* when that happens!
-Sandy(at least I don't have to worry about *that* anymore)
Thank God for masturbation! LOL. Actually it kind of sucks now. The good orgasms only seem to happen with partners now =)
Quote from: Helena on January 14, 2011, 12:48:24 PM
Masturbation can kill...especially if you insist on doing it in your car at 70mph and it goes off explosively, getting in your eyes and causing you to swerve across 3 lanes of traffic.
ahahahaha
I also heard something regarding masturbation by people on HRT helps increase the likelihood of being fertile if HRT is halted. I can't afford sperm banking. :(
Quote from: Nobuko on January 18, 2011, 03:02:55 AM
I also heard something regarding masturbation by people on HRT helps increase the likelihood of being fertile if HRT is halted. I can't afford sperm banking. :(
I seriously doubt that as masturbation (pre-op or post-op) should've no or little influence on hormone levels. It is said that fertility will usually be lost within a year of HRT. For those having HRT from the beginning of puberty there will be no fertility at all.
Quote from: sweetie87 on January 18, 2011, 11:08:17 AM
I seriously doubt that as masturbation (pre-op or post-op) should've no or little influence on hormone levels. It is said that fertility will usually be lost within a year of HRT. For those having HRT from the beginning of puberty there will be no fertility at all.
The reasoning behind it didn't have anything to do with hormone levels.. It involved something like the "Use it or lose it argument", with the reason function being lost permanently being due to gradual atrophy from lack of use.
Interesting. That would also suggest that men who often masturbate have a higher fertility rate than men who do not masturbate frequently.
You mentioned not being able to afford sperm banking, but if you really do want to have children then it's better to bank sperm instead of guessing on the 'use it or lose it-theory'.
Quote from: sweetie87 on January 18, 2011, 12:32:08 PM
You mentioned not being able to afford sperm banking, but if you really do want to have children then it's better to bank sperm instead of guessing on the 'use it or lose it-theory'.
I *may* want children, but i'm all for the idea of adoption and/or donor children if I do want them down the line. The question of permanent infertility is just one of options; whether or not that option is available down the line after HRT. But it's not a huge deal, and sperm banking is out of my price range currently to spend for an option.
Yeah I've had friends tell me it was good to masturbate at least once in a while to keep the skin stretched. Not sure if it's true but I can no longer do so the "old way"....and only do so with it tucked. And even then it just sucks.
I need a partner now for it to be good lol
Quote from: Nobuko on January 18, 2011, 11:23:40 AM
The reasoning behind it didn't have anything to do with hormone levels.. It involved something like the "Use it or lose it argument", with the reason function being lost permanently being due to gradual atrophy from lack of use.
Masturbation has nothing to do with the production of sperm. Sperm forms long
before orgasm and the production is unrelated to sexual intercourse in any way.
sooo, is there anything good about masturbating? i haven't really ever felt like doing it, so huh. that people actually feel a need for it still baffles me!
Quote from: Layn on January 19, 2011, 02:34:12 PM
sooo, is there anything good about masturbating? i haven't really ever felt like doing it, so huh. that people actually feel a need for it still baffles me!
Since I was 14, the longest I was able to go w/o it was 2 weeks. After I started oral E, that changed to more like 2-3 months....and it was just...different. Injectables made my libido shoot up though and for a while I was doing it every other day again with no real relief. Since my date on Friday, I haven't felt even the slightest urge...weird =)
when i was 14 the only thing i couldn't go without for longer than 2 weeks was ... maybe chocolate?
Quote from: Layn on January 19, 2011, 03:19:37 PM
when i was 14 the only thing i couldn't go without for longer than 2 weeks was ... maybe chocolate?
When I was 14 we had to walk 15 miles to school in the snow - barefoot - standing in sauroposeidon dung to keep our feet warm; with only sharp sticks to fend off the meganeura vischerae.
Quote from: Vexing on January 19, 2011, 03:25:55 PM
When I was 14 we had to walk 15 miles to school in the snow - barefoot - standing in sauroposeidon dung to keep our feet warm; with only sharp sticks to fend off the meganeura vischerae.
And you were thankful to get it.
Quote from: Vexing on January 19, 2011, 03:25:55 PM
When I was 14 we had to walk 15 miles to school in the snow - barefoot - standing in sauroposeidon dung to keep our feet warm; with only sharp sticks to fend off the meganeura vischerae.
When I was 14 I had no idea what masturbation was. Then that age 14/15 my best friend told me what it was and I was confused. I tried it out and fell in love lmao
Bless me Father for i have sinned
It has been ___ since my last confession
i just read 3 pages of responces of people talking about masturbating at an online site for transsexuals
Father :o ??? You want me to do WHAT FOR PENNANCE :o :o ???
Will you all please stop it, or else you will go blind!
Kind regards
Sarah B
Quote from: Sarah B on January 19, 2011, 04:08:37 PM
Will you all please stop it, or else you will go blind!
Please use text-to-speech, as I wasn't able to see this message.
You guys are killing me!!! Yes there is something good about it! If you do it too much & if you don't go blind your toenails will rot! Ok maybe that's a stretch.(Sorry, I couldn't resist & yes I wear glasses)
Seriously, if it works for you then it's good. If not then I guess don't do it.
LOL Ok this thread just turned hilarious =)
Speaking of.....
A dad walks into his son's room and says "Son you have GOT to stop masturbating or you'll go BLIND!"
The son says: "Dad....I'm over here."
=P
Quote from: Jerica on January 20, 2011, 10:30:35 AM
LOL Ok this thread just turned hilarious =)
Speaking of.....
A dad walks into his son's room and says "Son you have GOT to stop masturbating or you'll go BLIND!"
The son says: "Dad....I'm over here."
=P
:D :D :D
ah! i've always wondered why most guys i knew in school wore glasses. that explains it all, of course!
Actually, my toenail did rot off. But I think it was from a fungus.
Quote from: Shades O'Grey on January 19, 2011, 04:22:36 PM
Please use text-to-speech, as I wasn't able to see this message.
Using text to speech is not the appropriate solution in this case at the moment.
Take one carrot a day for the the next 10 days and if the symptons persist, I will write a referral for you to see an ophthalmologist. Next..
Kind regards
Sarah B
errrrr.... what is masturbation please? :laugh:
No - don't bother, It's ok, I read about it in school once. ;D
Man to woman "Do you know the the difference between conversation and intercourse?"
Woman "I'm sorry but I have no idea."
Man "lay down then I want to talk to you."
Quote from: rejennyrated on January 21, 2011, 03:26:44 AM
errrrr.... what is masturbation please? :laugh:
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Masturbation is a conversation with yourself...
-Sandy
"Hey, don't knock masturbation! It's sex with someone I love."
- Alvy Singer