RRRRRUGHH! >:( I'm so frustrated with all these STP packers! I've wasted hundreds of dollars on every single one and they all have problems. Either they arn't comfortable to wear all day or they break in a week. Seriously the best STP I ever used was the Pstyle but I'm sorry I just want a dick to stare down at when I'm peeing... is that really that much to ask for?
I've used the stand to urimate (both kinds), the fitz, the stud, the PPP, the mango...
Seriously guys does anyone have a stp PACKER that actually works, is comfortable, and LASTS longer then a few weeks?! I feel so desperate haha but there has to be a perfect packer out there somewhere....
i completely agree. if only the reelmagik had an STP........
I'll weigh in on this one, loud and clear: DJ KNOWS DICKS
I've said it before and I'll say it again: His are the best! I am so happy with these. I get one about every 6-7 months. This is with heavy use for many purposes, shall we say.
I got a note from him last week and he said he has the darker colors in now again as well. I get the 5 inch, packs so nice, JO like a dream, STP with a little practice.
DJ KNOWS DICKS 8)
My only complaint is they take a while to ship, but that may be because he is Up In Canada, EH? :laugh:
They are not for play (except solo), so my Dream Dick will be the REELMAGIK w/ stp and play option...I think....
(jqual, you are right, it does cost a lot to try out all these products!)
Looks like the DJ knows dicks site is down, though.
I agree that STP packers that are out there suck. I have tried almost all of them and they either don't work right or fit awkwardly packing.
As for DJ Knows Dicks, I can't get used to the medicine spoon for the life of me. That is usually the one most people try anyway, DJs, STP Fits, Urimate, STUD. After all those what choices do you even have in terms of an STP you can pack with. The best STP I had was the SNEE-KEE from PEE-ZEE but you can't pack with it.
I emailed REEL MAGIK to see if they are still making an STP option.
Yes, the learning curve w/medicine spoons is steep... TBH, I think it took me nearly a year of practice to be confident. But oh, so worth it.
Where there's a will, there's a way! ;)
Thanks for the reply guys... glad to know I'm not alone out there in the search for the perfect stp packer.
The problem I have with the med spoon is that they are uncomfortable as hell to pack with AND they always break in a few weeks. I had the STUD, it broke... the urimate, it broke... Dj's was better but again it was so uncomfortable to the point I couldn't do it anymore.
Anyone got a link to the reelmagik? maybe if enough of us e-mail them about making an STP they'll start doing it??
Andy: whats your secret man?!? How do you pack the PPP?
I flip the spoon and tube part up when packing and not pissing. I have the PPP. I've had it for a few years and it still works for me. The packer itself fell apart, but all I have to do is use the guts from the PPP and put it in a new packer.
Quote from: Nygeel on March 16, 2011, 09:55:14 PM
I flip the spoon and tube part up when packing and not pissing. I have the PPP.
yeah but then when you use the bathroom don't you have to do all kinds of adjusting before you can pee? like can you do it just from the zipper or do you have to half undress lol.
My goal is to walk up to a urinal, unzip, pull it out, and piss. Thats it. maybe I'm asking too much.
anyone try a self catheter? sometimes I feel like I'm just one step away from it! HAHA, j/k
Quote from: jqual on March 17, 2011, 06:36:05 AM
yeah but then when you use the bathroom don't you have to do all kinds of adjusting before you can pee? like can you do it just from the zipper or do you have to half undress lol.
My goal is to walk up to a urinal, unzip, pull it out, and piss. Thats it. maybe I'm asking too much.
anyone try a self catheter? sometimes I feel like I'm just one step away from it! HAHA, j/k
I tend to use stalls where I get all the time I need to fumble around. It takes practice.
i have a DJ knows dicks packer but i didnt get to use it for peeing cause i accidentally cut the tubing from the spoon end. DONT DO THAT. so now the spoon wont fit back on. but i took out the STP and now us the packer part with a jockstrap and it packs great! i will hopefully make a new STP soon.
i really wish there was a realistic prosthetic with an STP out there
You know, I never could get the hang of it without pissing down my leg (only tried at home -- never out in public). So I've kinda given up on this. There are a lot of non-trans guys who sit and piss. So I do that. No one has ever challenged me on it (especially since I tend to look all official on my iPhone 99% of the time).
jqual....I'm not sure why I have lucked out in this area, but I'm grateful. With a brand new DJ's PPP, I work the tubing out the tip until only about 1 1/2--two inches is left on the in side. Cut the end off (DO NOT do it from the spoon end as previously discussed).
This seems to fit nicely in BVD tighty whities for packing. It's just the right size for me, feels very comfy. For whatever reason I don't seem to feel the spoon?....I am very active and can honestly say, the only activity that it ever bothers me is biking, in which case I can do a quick adjustment. I can't really think of ever breaking the spoon, maybe once? When it's time to whiz, whip it out, just a quick adjustment gets the spoon in the magic spot, and you're free to "go"! Gently press on the balls to seal the deal.
Someone (Sean?) correctly suggested that people may have trouble with the medicine spoon due to their dysphoria in that area, and I agree, you really do have to get to know your anatomy intimately to get it to work, but for me, there was no question I needed to do this DUE to my dysphoria. I actually had made my own realistic STPs for years and years before they were (or I figured out they were) commercially available (DJ actually complimented me on "making something useful for yourself!" LOL).
I usually don't wear boxers or boxer briefs, but if I get a hankering to, I use the PPP with a Stand to Urimate packer holder. Not as natural looking in the jeans that way, but oddly amazing for JO--something about it bouncing around with the elastic? Hope not TMI!!
I'm pretty small, average build with no hips to speak of, nothing special...? Just lucky, I guess! They work for me...and I hope you find one that works as well for you!!
Quote from: jqual on March 17, 2011, 06:36:05 AM
My goal is to walk up to a urinal, unzip, pull it out, and piss.
I agree, with the frustration of finding a good realistic stp packer that doesn't need a lot of hassling. We all want the same thing; but truth is its not out there yet, not even the prosthetic companies have it down. Theres this guy named rob on youtube who had taken a likereal stp version and messed with it, he said he was thinking about making and selling them. They look real, and all he had to do was pull it out and put some pressure on the balls..go, and no leaks.
From all the money I keep wasting on purchasing ones that fail, I am just going to give up and try to make my own too. :-\
I really wish I could find something that worked for me, too. I had luck with the medicine spoon style receptacles briefly but... I don't know how to really put this delicately, but due to downstairs growth on T, my anatomy is no longer congruent with how these things are designed and it no longer works for me. And the larger cup style receptacle ones also don't work anymore. So I think I'm out of luck and stuck with sitting down.
I've had luck making my own, but it wasn't at all comfortable to wear all day or when i'm climbing around at work. Seems like it's either one or the other
I don't know guys I feel so down about it. I'm still using the STP-Fitz but I have accidents all the time with it. I've watched youtube videos and these guys swear by it! They say they just flip it up and it does the rest... but when I flip it up I pee everywhere...
I'm starting to feel kinda retarded like, why don't any of these work for me?? It's not from lack of practice either... I'll use it for two weeks before I give up on one.
Maybe Jayunit has the right idea... If you want something done right you do it yourself. But I wouldn't even begin to figure out how to make something myself.
Quote from: Femboy on March 18, 2011, 12:46:43 AM
Theres this guy named rob on youtube who had taken a likereal stp version and messed with it, he said he was thinking about making and selling them. They look real, and all he had to do was pull it out and put some pressure on the balls..go, and no leaks.
Do you have a link? PM me if you do I would like to see...
If you're interested, I know a video of a guy who makes his own using Fimo. You mold it into the shape you want and heat it up in the oven for 30 minutes. The only potential problem I wonder about is if the clay gets stiff and crumbles but I have no idea what the clay feels like after so it's worth a shot.
I already have a few ideas in mind so I might make a couple and see how it works packing and going, just not really sure where to buy it but worst case I buy it online.
Actually Jay that gave me an idea! you could mold a shape out of clay... cast a mold of it then set it in a soft plastic like silicone. Then it would comfy enough to be down there and would fit better to my anatomy.
I'm gonna give it a shot. I should be able to get mold making stuff at an art supply store.
Let me know how your ideas work out for you... maybe if ones a success I'll buy it off you haha.
Quote from: jqual on March 18, 2011, 11:14:26 PM
Actually Jay that gave me an idea! you could mold a shape out of clay... cast a mold of it then set it in a soft plastic like silicone. Then it would comfy enough to be down there and would fit better to my anatomy.
I'm gonna give it a shot. I should be able to get mold making stuff at an art supply store.
Let me know how your ideas work out for you... maybe if ones a success I'll buy it off you haha.
Actually yeah that's not a bad idea. I wonder how I would go about doing that though. I will be working together with an FTM friend so that way it's not as entirely biased. Though him and I are equally as frustrated with STP packers. I'll let you know how it goes.
Quote from: jqual on March 18, 2011, 09:16:08 PM
Do you have a link? PM me if you do I would like to see...
Well that's the thing, youtube deleted his account and all his videos. He showed too many "pissing" videos, and his junk too much lol. It sucks cause he had the right idea.
damn i wanted 2 c it also. o well.
i hav an open question (i dont rly think any1 can answer very well) ok:
the reelmagik has the flex tube in it so coudnt they just replace that with a STP device? like a small simple one?
Just an update...
I made my own stp that is similar to the shewee (and when I say similar I mean that I made a mold out of it and re-cast it out of rubber with a few changes size-wise)
Its working REALLY well for me! I added leg straps so all I do is walk up to the toilet, unzip, and pee... It stays in place like 95% of the time... and even when it slips I can still adjust it from the shaft of the packer because its all one piece (not like a spoon PLUS tubing... if that makes sense)
SO! It's totally one handed and I can finally pee through the zipper! HAHA! and they say it couldn't be done! EAT THAT CRAP!
Quote from: jqual on April 02, 2011, 01:17:19 AM
Just an update...
I made my own stp that is similar to the shewee (and when I say similar I mean that I made a mold out of it and re-cast it out of rubber with a few changes size-wise)
Its working REALLY well for me! I added leg straps so all I do is walk up to the toilet, unzip, and pee... It stays in place like 95% of the time... and even when it slips I can still adjust it from the shaft of the packer because its all one piece (not like a spoon PLUS tubing... if that makes sense)
SO! It's totally one handed and I can finally pee through the zipper! HAHA! and they say it couldn't be done! EAT THAT CRAP!
oh ->-bleeped-<- I wanna see, if you make another I will buy one off you hahahah.
Quote from: jqual on April 02, 2011, 01:17:19 AM
Just an update...
I made my own stp that is similar to the shewee (and when I say similar I mean that I made a mold out of it and re-cast it out of rubber with a few changes size-wise)
Its working REALLY well for me! I added leg straps so all I do is walk up to the toilet, unzip, and pee... It stays in place like 95% of the time... and even when it slips I can still adjust it from the shaft of the packer because its all one piece (not like a spoon PLUS tubing... if that makes sense)
SO! It's totally one handed and I can finally pee through the zipper! HAHA! and they say it couldn't be done! EAT THAT CRAP!
Quote from: JayUnit on April 02, 2011, 07:21:30 AM
oh ->-bleeped-<- I wanna see, if you make another I will buy one off you hahahah.
Me too! I would like to see it. And maybe would you make one for me to buy off you too?
ditto 2 wat evry1 sed i totally want one.....NOWWWWWWW......sry for the outburst
Wow this sounds good ;D I would love to see it also 8)
Photos! Must see.
Yeah, pics would be great.
Have you guys used the stand to urimate? I know it's pricy but people seem to really like it, I'm looking into getting one myself
Quote from: lexical on April 03, 2011, 05:48:12 PM
Yeah, pics would be great.
Have you guys used the stand to urimate? I know it's pricy but people seem to really like it, I'm looking into getting one myself
I too am curious about this one. I would like to know if anyone has had luck with their Whiz packers/STP devices. I wanna hear some reviews before dropping $60 on something that may end up being a disappointment. I'm wondering about ease of use (as opposed to medicine spoon styles), comfort of wear, and realistic look when packing.
Quote from: Heath on April 03, 2011, 07:04:14 PM
I too am curious about this one. I would like to know if anyone has had luck with their Whiz packers/STP devices. I wanna hear some reviews before dropping $60 on something that may end up being a disappointment. I'm wondering about ease of use (as opposed to medicine spoon styles), comfort of wear, and realistic look when packing.
i dropped the money for a whiz packer and was really disappointed. it wasn't that realistic looking and the hole for the tube was tearing at the tip so it looked like i had a very painful injury to my privates. it's easy enough to use but you have to have a fly that goes down pretty far to be able to get the right angle without pulling your pants down. the strap that keeps it in place is really flimsy and if you move around at all at work it doesn't do a great job. i wasn't satisfied at all.
I tried to take some pictures but something is really messed up with my camera, like every time I take a picture its really blurry and fuzzy? Anyway, I'll post pictures as soon as my friend lets me borrow his camera... for sure by the end of the week.
The only problem I've encountered with the one I made is glue. I can't find a good glue to hold the tubing to the packer... everything I've tried has either been to stiff and flaked off when the packer bends or has actually been to strong and eaten away at the packer material.
What do you guys use for you homemade stps?
I'll consider selling when I get it perfect, I dont want to sell you guys a crappy product (like every other STP out there).
And I've tried the Whiz packer from urimate. I HATED it. It wasn't very well made and the whiz was actually really hard to use. It was super flimsy and awkward shape and I couldn't get it right for the life of me and even when I could do it I had to be completely naked to position it right.... which, needless to say, makes using it in public not really ideal.
Well, you two both saved me from making a bad purchase. (((grateful)))
Jqual: can't wait to see what you've made dude.
ACK! dude I hear you!!! I just pack & keep my P-Style either in my cargo shorts pocket (which i wear a lot) or my messenger bag (which I carry a lot). I am too afraid to spend a ton of $$$ on a pack-n-pee mainly because I haven't heard a totally positive review of one....
I could never get the medicine spoon down and kept having reactions to the latex from the tubing. So, I've filed STPs as lost causes in my case. :( I would love to be able to pee standing up though.
Quote from: M.Grimm on March 18, 2011, 02:31:09 PMI don't know how to really put this delicately, but due to downstairs growth on T, my anatomy is no longer congruent with how these things are designed and it no longer works for me.
I know
exactly what you mean. The bigger it gets the harder it is to use these STPs (IMO anyway). However, I'd prefer the growth over successfully using STPs anyday. ;D
I might try my hand at making an STP/packer at some point. I'm not familiar with any of the styles but I've made a packer for a friend out of some materials I had laying around my house. It was texturally realistic (as in feeling it through underwear or pants) but visually not great. I imagine y'all would want something fairly realistic looking.
Quote from: jqual on April 02, 2011, 01:17:19 AM
Just an update...
I made my own stp that is similar to the shewee (and when I say similar I mean that I made a mold out of it and re-cast it out of rubber with a few changes size-wise)
Its working REALLY well for me! I added leg straps so all I do is walk up to the toilet, unzip, and pee... It stays in place like 95% of the time... and even when it slips I can still adjust it from the shaft of the packer because its all one piece (not like a spoon PLUS tubing... if that makes sense)
SO! It's totally one handed and I can finally pee through the zipper! HAHA! and they say it couldn't be done! EAT THAT CRAP!
I really hope you can post a picture soon. I'm totally excited to know more about this.
I second the need for pictures dude, don't keep us hanging >:( :P
Quote from: Andy8715 on April 24, 2011, 01:28:27 AM
I really hope you can post a picture soon. I'm totally excited to know more about this.
Agreed, if it's cheap to make you might even be able to sell them and make some profit for your top surgery
andrew: thats actually a very good idea for him!
Radar, you shouldn't give on STP's all together. I know there are companies out there that make a totally latex free STP.
JQUAL ... I've got to see this too! That would be fantastic! I think you may have a good money maker here. Lol. Because I know I would absolutely be interested in doing bussiness with you.
I'm completely dying for those pictures!
-dies quietly in the corner-
Alright, sorry to leave all you guys hanging but the STP that I made out of a flexible material started to fall apart after about two weeks. I was so frustrated and upset about it at the time that I kind of gave up for a while. I am still at least searching for another material I could use instead, but it's really hard to find something that is durable, flexible, AND waterproof.
Anyway, I thought I could at least show you guys what I'm using in the meantime... it's really nothing fancy, just the actual "shewee" that I used to model my custom stp after. The only difference with mine is it was shorter, didn't have the long scoop in the back and it wasn't made of this crazy hard material that the shewee is made from.
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All I can say about this STP is that it works. I don't have leakage and I don't really have problems with it. I can still use a urinal no problem but it isn't as comfortable as I would like it to be. Don't get me wrong it kind of works with my anatomy so it's WAY more comfortable than getting poked with a medicine spoon believe it or not, but you can for sure still "feel" it down there which is what I was trying to illuminate with my custom STP.
So all that being said I'm still going to try and perfect my stp, it's just still going to take a while.
Thanks for the patience guys!
JQual,
With the flexible material you were previously trying to use, was it a gogirl/similar to a gogirl? Right now, I'm trying to make a similar stp with a gogirl and a packer and the problem I'm having is that the gogirl slips out of the back of the packer and doesn't stay put. It could be because the gogirl is very flexible and it sounds like the shewee is hard plastic. Either way, I'm curious if you used any certain method to get the sheewee to stay put.
Quote from: jxpx on June 12, 2011, 11:17:44 AM
JQual,
With the flexible material you were previously trying to use, was it a gogirl/similar to a gogirl?
It wasn't like the go girl... it was a little tougher than that. It was soft and flexible to the touch but it stayed in place easily. I have a million problems with the gogirl design and the main one is that it would collapse on me when I would try to use it. That and the funnel system was to low down and pointed down, which didn't make sense to me. When I put a packer on it and tried to "aim" it would cause a kink in the tube, overflow, then leak out the back.
But maybe that's just me, I've come to find that everyone likes something different.
Quote from: jxpx on June 12, 2011, 11:17:44 AMRight now, I'm trying to make a similar stp with a gogirl and a packer and the problem I'm having is that the gogirl slips out of the back of the packer and doesn't stay put. Either way, I'm curious if you used any certain method to get the sheewee to stay put.
Which packer are you using? The GV sailor? I've had a lot of problems about "slipping" with that packer not sure why maybe its the material but the mr. limpy tends to grab the material more. I've tried a hundred different kinds of glues and nothing works with that cyber skin stuff, even the toughest glue will just flake off. Anyway, my only suggestion is to make sure the hole that goes into the packer is much smaller then the tube you put in it. For example when I make a hole through a packer I do it with a piece of heated metal that's no bigger then the size of #2 pencil lead, after that the a quarter to a half inch tube should fit really snug.
Quote from: jxpx on June 12, 2011, 11:17:44 AMIt could be because the gogirl is very flexible and it sounds like the shewee is hard plastic.
Alright so here is the original shewee
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and here is mine without the packer
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as you can see I cut off most of the tube to the shewee and glued my own tube on, for two reasons. One, the packer will not hold onto the shewee tube, it will just slide around. Two, because its hard stiff plastic and will totally make you look "hard" all day, and there is no way to adjust and pack it to make it not look that way.
Anyway, I hope some of this info helped. Let me know if you have anymore questions I'm happy to try and help you out.
does the glue u used stay? if so what type of glue? i think i might try to make the same thing.
it's just gorilla glue... and yes it totally stays, doesn't leak or anything.
ok awesome. also just wondering i looked into the SheWeeGo have u looked at/have it? Im not sure how similar it is.
i just got an idea. do you guys think it would work if you made a freshette but with the material they use for the Whiz STP? it would make it wayyy more comfortable to have in your pants all day. just an idea.