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Title: Fem voice training.... examples
Post by: LynnER on January 19, 2007, 11:32:13 PM
heres my new voice... Its taken allot of work and practice and its still not polished... I know its kinda monotone, but Im not used to speaking for a minute straight and I do have a cold so...
http://home.earthlink.net/~hellpasopunk/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/LynnvoiceLoRez.mp3 (http://home.earthlink.net/~hellpasopunk/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/LynnvoiceLoRez.mp3)

heres the evil facimily of my old voice... I couldnt get it quite right...
http://home.earthlink.net/~hellpasopunk/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/barryloRez.mp3 (http://home.earthlink.net/~hellpasopunk/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/barryloRez.mp3)

Tell me what you think.... This was with out any speach theripy, or any formal training.... this was figured out after a brief look at what mellany<sp?> phillips had for free on her site a few years ago.... I didnt practice it then but I remembered, and bits and pieces Ive gleaned off the forums and chat  :)


and heres Bri's before and facimily after  :)

Our uber bouncy boy crazy IRCop now:
http://home.earthlink.net/~hellpasopunk/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/brianna.mp3 (http://home.earthlink.net/~hellpasopunk/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/brianna.mp3)

and heres her attempt at before.....:
http://home.earthlink.net/~hellpasopunk/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/hewhoshallnotbenamed.mp3 (http://home.earthlink.net/~hellpasopunk/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/hewhoshallnotbenamed.mp3)
Now what do you think of hers  :)


Id like to hear examples of any voices before and after that any of you would like to provide....
and the basics of how you found your female voice... I want to compile research on the subject and come out with a comprehensive  "This works" for just about everyone.....
Title: Re: Fem voice training.... examples
Post by: Elizabeth on January 20, 2007, 12:49:23 AM
Wow!!!!!!!

Lynn, that is great. I need to find out what you did, and do that. That for sure sounds like a woman's voice. Any help you can give me or point me in a direction, I would appreciate it.

Thanks in advance.

Love always,
Elizabeth
Title: Re: Fem voice training.... examples
Post by: LynnER on January 20, 2007, 03:41:52 AM
I got my voice where it is by speaking with Bri.... My home life in EP dosnt give me any time or chance to practice.... my family just wont tollorate it.....

We will be back together soon enough... and you know what that means...we will be takeing over the world muahahahahahahahaha!!

Thanks for the imput everyone.....

What Id like is for everyone else who has managed to get there voice up there to post here with examples of there then and now's and maby send an E-mail as to how they got there.... if you dont have a place to post it for upload, e-mail it to me in a low grade mp3 and I'll put them up....  LynnER@susans.org

Im trying to compile a list of practices and methods on how to acheave a female voice and sort through all the junk and the sucessful parts and maby write a book on it... (with each posters permission ofcorse) :)    *Hugs*
Title: Re: Fem voice training.... examples
Post by: katia on January 20, 2007, 11:48:31 AM
not really a professional on this but you both sound terrific.  lynnER's sounds [more relaxed] than brianna's.  i've heard that to keep your voice smooth, you need  [humidity and/or a humidifier] as well as plenty of water during sessions.
Title: Re: Fem voice training.... examples
Post by: RuthChambers on January 24, 2007, 07:12:54 PM
Lynn, your new voice is very impressive :)

I have sent you an email about voice samples.

I have used the free spectrogram program from http://www.genderlife.com/voicetutor/spectro_setup.htm which includes free instructions on how to set the programme up.

I found that I start OK but drop off the longer I talk. Practice, Practice ......

Ruth
Title: Re: Fem voice training.... examples
Post by: Melissa on January 25, 2007, 03:08:38 AM
Good idea for a thread.  I just got my microphone working, so here's mine:
http://www.melissagirl.com/sounds/melissa5.mp3

For references, here's my old male voice as best as I could get it (I think pretty close):
http://www.melissagirl.com/sounds/oldmale.mp3

Also, I recorded my laugh after the first encoding program I tried garbled my file up and it sounded like a chipmunk in a blender or something:
http://www.melissagirl.com/sounds/laugh.mp3

Also, I have to agree with Katia's assessment. :)

Melissa
Title: Re: Fem voice training.... examples
Post by: Owen on January 26, 2007, 11:40:24 AM
Lynn this is great what do ya mean not polished? Sounds very much female to me. More than myself at the moment, but I'm working on it. Good work....

Brianna sounds great....

Linda Ann

Love being female :angel:
Title: Re: Fem voice training.... examples
Post by: tinkerbell on January 27, 2007, 02:24:50 PM
Quote from: charlotteNH on January 27, 2007, 01:21:28 PM
I decided to throw my hat in the ring so to speak and upload my voice  :)  Let me know what you think and keep in mind that I have only practiced for a total of maybe 2 hours.

New Voice:
http://h1.ripway.com/karmatic1110/voicefem.mp3

Old Voice:
http://h1.ripway.com/karmatic1110/voiceold.mp3

Comments appreciated  :)

Charlotte

Quote from: Charlotte's fem voiceI think I'm doing allright

Allright?  are you kidding? you are very modest, hon.   you are doing WONDERFULLY WELL.  Congratulations Charlotte!  I know the effort it takes to get there; therefore, you get a karma star from me today.  Keep it up, and don't force it too much, you don't want to ruin that beautiful voice of yours.  You sound perfect! :)

tinkerbell :icon_chick:
Title: Re: Fem voice training.... examples
Post by: karmatic1110 on January 27, 2007, 03:07:26 PM
Aww!  Your so sweet!  Thank you for leaving a comment and I appreciate the praise.  I suppose we are our worst critics and I am one that is not satisfied with less than the best of my ability.  It takes me a little effort to find just the right pitch.  I hope with a little more practice I can find the exact point at will and therefore not strain my voice  :) 

Charlotte
Title: Re: Fem voice training.... examples
Post by: LynnER on January 28, 2007, 03:45:14 AM
Allright... Heres Megan  (aka MeganRose)  She asked me to go ahead and post this one up for her... Im going to run out of webspace here pretty soon LoL....  anyways

And heres Megan Rose: http://home.earthlink.net/~hellpasopunk/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/megan1.mp3 (http://home.earthlink.net/~hellpasopunk/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/megan1.mp3)




PS: you sound awesome Charlotte.... Keep up the practice and youll do great.... oh, and women do tend to speak allot faster then men (atleast where Im from) so dont worry about your speed  :)
Title: Re: Fem voice training.... examples
Post by: tinkerbell on January 28, 2007, 04:10:10 AM
Quote from: LynnER on January 28, 2007, 03:45:14 AM


And heres Megan Rose: http://home.earthlink.net/~hellpasopunk/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/megan1.mp3 (http://home.earthlink.net/~hellpasopunk/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/megan1.mp3)


I think she definitely sounds great as well.  I love the accent.  It helps when you have an Australian accent. :D

tinkerbell :icon_chick:
Title: Re: Fem voice training.... examples
Post by: MeganRose on January 28, 2007, 04:58:09 AM
Thanks for hosting that for me Lynn :).

And thanks, Tinkerbell. I don't know why, but I swear my accent has become a bit stronger since I started using that voice. Well, except for the times where I accidentally start using a New Zealand accent instead - I have no idea how I picked it up seeing as I've never been there, I didn't even realise I was doing it until a lot of customers at work started asking if I was from the north or the south island :).
Title: Re: Fem voice training.... examples
Post by: LynnER on January 28, 2007, 05:11:55 AM
LoL, speaking of accents.... I have to try really hard not to have a valley girl, semi british, or scotch irish accent when I speak.... Before killing the boy voice Id frequently sound semi british or scottish... sometimes irish....  It was allot of fun on the phones or at the bars.....  would have been really embarasing if I had done the valley girl back then  ;D
Title: Re: Fem voice training.... examples
Post by: cindianna_jones on February 06, 2007, 06:08:03 AM
OMG, you guys sound sooooo good!  I am soooo jealous!  Charlotte, Lynn, and Megan.... sheeesh!  You are sooooo good.  Bri doesn't count... cause she's a girl to begin with.  The rest of us have to <larn> this stuff.  And Megan!  I love the accent!  You'd get by famously here in the states my dear. 

okay you guys... you have kept me up all night trying to figure this stuff out... and you have coaxed me to do something I haven't done in years... pull out the ole infamous you know who.  It's only appropriate I suppose with things that have happened recently.  I had to check it out and see if it still worked.... turns out it's not hard at all.  No, the ole voice is far to easy to recall... bummer!

So here I am

http://www.cindijones.com/myvoice/PinusContortus.wav (http://www.cindijones.com/myvoice/PinusContortus.wav)

And one more of me for good measure.... you know before you get to the ahem.... other thing.

http://www.cindijones.com/myvoice/DriveOfYouth.wav (http://www.cindijones.com/myvoice/DriveOfYouth.wav)

And the old me

http://www.cindijones.com/myvoice/TwoOfUs.wav (http://www.cindijones.com/myvoice/TwoOfUs.wav)

I'm sorry they are wav files...  I haven't figured out how to convert them and compress them, so if you don't have a high speed connection, they might take a bit to download.

Cindi
Title: Re: Fem voice training.... examples
Post by: Dennis on February 06, 2007, 09:08:13 AM
Wow, you all sound amazing. I tried doing a woman's voice and I just sound like a cartoon character. And I can't get nearly as high as some of you.

Dennis
Title: Re: Fem voice training.... examples
Post by: Owen on February 06, 2007, 10:31:25 AM
Charlotte you sound wonderful. You are doing Aok. I can do a female voice for about 20 min now. I have been praticing a lot and when ever I am on the phone I get mamed. A nice feeling.  Keep it up your doing fine.


Linda Ann

Love being female :angel:
Title: Re: Fem voice training.... examples
Post by: Melissa on February 06, 2007, 10:40:52 AM
Quote from: Cindi Jones on February 06, 2007, 06:08:03 AM
OMG, you guys sound sooooo good!  I am soooo jealous!  Charlotte, Lynn, and Megan.... sheeesh!  You are sooooo good.  Bri doesn't count... cause she's a girl to begin with.  The rest of us have to <larn> this stuff.  And Megan!  I love the accent!  You'd get by famously here in the states my dear. 
I'm going to assume you didn't mention me because you've heard my voice before, although I think it's improved so much since I put up my voice a while back.

Melissa
Title: Re: Fem voice training.... examples
Post by: karmatic1110 on February 06, 2007, 10:42:16 AM
Thank you for the compliment :)  Its funny, but I still hear quite a bit of my male voice when I listen to it.  I don't expect it to be drastically different, but I would love to tweak it just a bit more.  MY GF and friends didn't believe it was me when they heard the recording over the phone.  I suppose others have more of an ear for change.  I find self evaluation very challenging in all aspects of transition.  I have been quite impressed with everyone who has posted how far they have come.  It's quite inspirational really.

Charlotte 
Title: Re: Fem voice training.... examples
Post by: cindianna_jones on February 06, 2007, 02:56:54 PM
Quote from: Melissa on February 06, 2007, 10:40:52 AM
Quote from: Cindi Jones on February 06, 2007, 06:08:03 AM
OMG, you guys sound sooooo good!  I am soooo jealous!  Charlotte, Lynn, and Megan.... sheeesh!  You are sooooo good.  Bri doesn't count... cause she's a girl to begin with.  The rest of us have to <larn> this stuff.  And Megan!  I love the accent!  You'd get by famously here in the states my dear. 
I'm going to assume you didn't mention me because you've heard my voice before, although I think it's improved so much since I put up my voice a while back.

Melissa

But of course Melissa.  I've talked to you on the phone.  You do very well indeed.

Cindi
Title: Re: Fem voice training.... examples
Post by: Melissa on February 06, 2007, 03:01:17 PM
Quote from: Cindi Jones on February 06, 2007, 02:56:54 PM
But of course Melissa.  I've talked to you on the phone.  You do very well indeed.
You mean even with all that crying I was doing? :P

Melissa
Title: Re: Fem voice training.... examples
Post by: cindianna_jones on February 06, 2007, 03:05:01 PM
That's when we are our best... when we are sobbing!  Just kidding.  I think that you were very credible on the phone.  In fact.... .that was my very first impression.

Cindi
Title: Re: Fem voice training.... examples
Post by: Melissa on February 06, 2007, 03:07:21 PM
Quote from: Cindi Jones on February 06, 2007, 03:05:01 PM
That's when we are our best... when we are sobbing!  Just kidding.  I think that you were very credible on the phone.  In fact.... .that was my very first impression.

Cindi
Awww, thanks. :)

Melissa
Title: Re: Fem voice training.... examples
Post by: Barbara Ann on April 03, 2007, 04:30:56 PM
I know that this thread has been around a little while, but I just came across it and I just had to reply. OMG! All of you sound terrific! Lynn, Cindy, Megan, Charlotte - I am in awe, girls. :o  Working on my voice is a top priority for me this summer. After hearing all of you, I am newly inspired.
Thanks so much-
-Barbara Ann
Title: Re: Fem voice training.... examples
Post by: Andre on April 03, 2007, 04:44:32 PM
I was seraching for ftm clips... but found also this one about developping female voice for MTFs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sopK5AUYAw

Maybe it'll be useful...





Andre

Title: Re: Fem voice training.... examples
Post by: stephanology on April 06, 2007, 02:02:00 AM
This thread is SO inspiring!

FYI, I record and listen to dialogue all the time as a part of my livelihood, and I'm so impressed at how great everyone sounds!

When I record myself, I am always dissappointed, but now I'm thinking that may be because my expectations are not in line with reality.  I have a big mouth and a wide chest and so my voice MUST contain more low frequencies.  Just like a cello resonating more deeply than a viola, right?

But listening to you girls, I can hear lower tonalities, but when the inflection and "melodiosity" (That's not a word, but it means what I want to say!) are there, the depth doesn't matter, the voice sounds feminine!

I'm reeling!

I'm going to go sing some Bangles records now!


Steph A
Title: Re: Fem voice training.... examples
Post by: LynnER on April 06, 2007, 02:08:56 AM
Heyyas Stephanology,  the trick is all in the harmonics and the inflections of tone... pitch has nothing to do with sounding female...

try this... place your fingers on the bottom of the voice box and speak... you'll feel the vibrations... now place your fingers on the top and again youll feel them....
KK, now speak in a falseto voice till youve killed the vibrations on the top of your voice box... here comes the hard part.... learn to speak so you dont vibrate the top of the box, but dont use the falseto either... just vibrate the bottom...it takes allot of practice but it gives you that female harmonic...
Title: Re: Fem voice training.... examples
Post by: cindianna_jones on April 06, 2007, 02:49:03 AM
Hey! Where's the voice box? (I mean... where do you put your fingers exactly?)  I wanna try that!


Cindi
Title: Re: Fem voice training.... examples
Post by: Attis on April 06, 2007, 11:14:33 AM
Quote from: Cindi Jones on April 06, 2007, 02:49:03 AM
Hey! Where's the voice box? (I mean... where do you put your fingers exactly?)  I wanna try that!


Cindi

The way I've found is by just doing a random set of 'cartoon' voices with my hand on my trachea to see where it vibrates the most. About there is where the voice box is located. Remember it's more like voice cords than a box, so it will feel more along the length of the trachea than in one spot alone. I've tried Melanie A Phillips method and it does work to a degree, but it takes practice before you can actually hit the general location of what she calls the 'back' of the voice. It can be frustrating at times because I'll hit it dead on one night and the next night, no joy. >_<

-- Brede
Title: Re: Fem voice training.... examples
Post by: Melissa on April 06, 2007, 11:38:39 AM
Quote from: stephanology on April 06, 2007, 02:02:00 AM
"melodiosity" (That's not a word, but it means what I want to say!)
Perhaps you meant melodiousness, which is a word. :)

Melissa
Title: Re: Fem voice training.... examples
Post by: debisl on April 06, 2007, 12:42:20 PM
Sounds GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Are you sure you are not GG

Deb
Title: Re: Fem voice training.... examples
Post by: LynnER on April 06, 2007, 06:32:18 PM
Who?  Me?  I'm not sure of anything anymore LoL.  I'm supprised I remember my name most of the time.... being a blonde is horrable... J/K   ;D >:D