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What did you do as a denial to try to convince yourself you were not trans?

Started by Apples Mk.II, September 14, 2012, 09:17:37 AM

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DanicaCarin

 ::)  Joined the Army! "Yeah...  Baby...  You are a man! You look ->-bleeped-<-ty in camo! :P
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Beverly

Quote from: ashrock on September 17, 2012, 04:04:33 PM
Pretending I'm just a crossdresser: check (interesting sidenote, its easier for me to accept being transgender now than trying to convince myself I am a crossdresser)

This describes me too. I always hated the label of TV/CD but I am quite comfortable being labelled as TS / TG / MTF
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Padma

Quote from: DaniStarr on September 19, 2012, 09:00:12 AM
::)  Joined the Army! "Yeah...  Baby...  You are a man! You look ->-bleeped-<-ty in camo! :P
"I never thought I'd look good in khaki
It hurt the pride as well as it scratched the balls"
From a traditional Irish song ;D
Womandrogyneâ„¢
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Josie M

Quote from: Keaira on September 17, 2012, 08:04:39 AM
Just remembered something else I did. In high school, I went to the gym and lifted weights with a friend. I figured if I looked buff then the bullies would leave me alone. I also joined the Army Cadets but that lasted only a few weeks. I got into a fight with another kid who, surprise surprise, thought I was gay. I was shocked at my strength that day because they said it took 4 people to peel me off of him.

Looking back, I can't help but wonder if my long hair at that age along with my apparently feminine mannerisms only served to enhance what made me appear to be gay.

Wow...that one hit's home....I had a similar experience in High School, but it would be a while before I started to understand why.  I have a high-school yearbook photo where the other students doctored it to look female.  I remember being real upset about it and counselors and other school officials telling me it was "all in fun" and should be a "good sport" about it.   Meanwhile, I'm getting harassed and assaulted almost daily because everyone thinks I'm gay.

...turns out your average gay-basher doesn't really know the difference between sexual orientation and gender identity.....and I had no idea what was going on with me either.
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Apples Mk.II

I keep wondering about the gay / bi thing. I had that stage of trying to convince myself that I could be bi or gay, but... It took me some time to notice that when I was thinking about interest on men, I was not seeing myself as one. Surprise. Too bad there are too many good looking gays. I keep telling a friend that he'd enjoy more being bi. His reply... I'd love it, but looks like only one thing interests me.

The guy is a freaking chick magnet. Heck, I was even tempted to hit on him.
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Katie.D

ohh lets see
fasting, prayer, and penance (how Catholic am I)
Pentecostal sects, since the Catholic thing didn't pray away the gay
endurance exercise, weight lifting, high impact / full contact martial arts (I didn't like my body, so I didn't care if it got hurt, I figured out last year that the exercise to exaustion, and fighting were my version of "cutting")
Historic martial arts groups (medieval European sword word, very traditional Asian dojos)
Drunkeness, and black rage.
Hyper male jobs


didn't work though
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Beverly

Quote from: Abracadabra on September 24, 2012, 05:56:06 AM
Were you a role-model for "Christian" in - 50 shades... I say!
Unfortunately not. I never learned to make bucket-loads of money...  :(

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Beverly

Quote from: Abracadabra on September 24, 2012, 06:36:01 AM
"What do you pretend you don't know?"

Most folks looked plain stupefied at it... like huh?!?
Until two years ago I would have pretended I did not know what that meant. I would have said... "Huh?"

;D
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Violet Bloom

Quote from: Abracadabra on September 24, 2012, 06:36:01 AM
Telling about keeping busy like hell to keep the "lid" on things we don't want to "know".

This was me - keeping busy and living "responsibly", that is until I finally got too tired and depressed to do much of anything anymore.  I thought I'd 'take the hit' and do everything 'right' and eventually I'd have plenty of money and have the time to enjoy my life more.  In a sense that time is NOW.  Certainly though this wasn't the situation I consciously thought I was preparing for.

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Jam

I didn't deny it, I just thought there was nothing I could do about it.
I figured well if im going to be miserable I may as well try and live up to what people wanted me to be.
At least then I could make them happy.
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EmmaS

My denial was extremely strong for the years that it lasted, but thankfully my denial was much shorter than others considering i'm only 20 now. I was always shy and awkward growing up and gender dysphoria kicked in around 8/9 for me. I repressed any thoughts concerning this and focused it on several things; from playing basketball to sexual gratification in my early puberty years. Although I thought I had a good handle on "my condition" I continued to struggle for years until I finally realized I couldn't fight it any longer and I started to unveil what was truly underneath. My denial may have been short but it was extremely strong and no one who knew me suspected a thing because I acted the role of a stereotypical male, but deep down I truly knew in my heart...I was a female.
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Dawn Heart

I've done that typical guy role too...never worked on me. I also tried keeping busy, getting caught up in life, suppressing it whatever way I could, and did the whole dating girls and getting married game. I tried to convince myself that it was just a fantasy, a way to run away from my misery. That backfired!

I have an update coming tonight, so keep an eye out!
There's more to me than what I thought
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RedFox

I almost discovered myself in my late teens but then I got my girlfriend pregnant and joined the Army.. that started a long cycle of proving my manhood.  Doing everything "manly" I could think of in the Army and out of it.  Riding motorcycles, jumping out of planes, bodybuilding, martial arts, heavy drinking in my youth. 

Ended up married twice with four kids between the two wives.  Thankfully my career is not a traditional male field (IT), so it shouldn't be overly affected by my transition.

Looking back I wonder how much was simply exploration of myself and how much was denial of what I found?

And I totally get the distraction thing repeated over and over again.  I've always been called a renaissance man (woman?)  because of the breadth of my interests and studies.  But my wife says I have serious ADD because I jump between things too quickly for serious study. I think that when things get too easy it frees my mind up to contemplate my inner identity issues.

So many commonalities here.


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Marcia

When I first had the thoughts that I was a female I just thought it was because of my overactive imagination. I just plain denied it. I now see how I was so wrong.
-Mark & Marcia
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JohnnieRamona

I told myself, at various points, that I "couldn't be trans" because

-I wasn't "effeminate" enough
-I was attracted to women
-I enjoyed many interests that are typically "male," like watching sports, etc.
-I was attracted to trans women and trans men... I told myself I was "just an admirer."

It took me a long time, but I finally realized NONE of that stuff mattered.
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Elsa

Well here's what I did and I am not proud of it and hated what I was becoming/doing:

Went to a gym - but instead of bulking up I became slimmer - which was weird, but was a blessing, since my dad used be a body builder who had huge muscular arms.
although my thighs and legs became strong and muscular  :-\

In college tried to date as many girls as I could but end up with a bad rep despite the fact that my GID combined with the fact that every girl I asked out had this weird feeling like something was not right with me, resulted in me getting rejected all the time.
one even figured out I was either gay or something which was the closest anyone has ever come to guessing my real sexual preference/gender identity.

Tried to act as manly as I could trained my body, voice, stance to be manly and slowly and painfully tried to separate myself from who I really was but only ended up getting depressed started drinking and smoking and became a shell of the person I once was. And lost several years of my life to it as a result.
Sometimes when life is a fight - we just have to fight back and say screw you - I want to live.

Sometimes we just need to believe.
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Taka

a norwegian documentary about transsexualism made me realize for real that i'm not a girl already before middle school, but at the same time managed to convince me that i'd never want srs since the result wouldn't be satisfactory at all. it didn't forget to mention that you don't have to go all out in transitioning, cause that's the only option in norway. unless i find a doctor who's willing to try helping me without consulting the authorities on trans issues

while growing up i tried to be that "good girl" that my parents expected me to be. and learned the worst possible way that this is the wrong way to be a girl, it only made me vulnerable to molesters. never gave me any understanding of what it really means to be a girl, or how to naturally and unconsciously act like one

in high school i rejected many good guys, then dated the girliest guy i could find, and got totally disappointed with him. he some times would want me to take the lead and i hated it because i thought it was "wrong". and all kinds of weird things. i wasn't too open for any experimentation of that kind, since i was in denial. dominant by nature, but trying to be submissive...

and i had a kid, at a slightly young age. not long after high school... but this was probably one of the better choices i made. suddenly i didn't feel any need for relationships, and found more time to reflect upon myself and who i really am. it also gives me a feeling of having fulfilled my duties as a fertile member of society, so now i can think about doing things that would lose me my fertility without freaking out too much
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Lucky Peach

I don't think that I ever really tried to convince myself I wasn't trans. I had that bit figured out fairly quickly in life. I tried to hide it though. Thought maybe it would go away. I just desperately wanted to fit in and for nobody to be the wiser. I lied to myself a lot. Played the straight male game for a little bit.

Glad I wised up.
Follow your dreams, they know the way - Unknown
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michelle

I guess I tried the ostrich with her head in the sand approach.    When I started puberty I just fantasized about being some how magically turned into a woman.    I must have made up a gazillion day dreams.   They ranged from getting kidnapped by a woman or women who wished to turn me into one to finding a sugar daddy who made me his dream girl to volunteering for a medical experiment and giving them permission to make me as female as possible including giving me workable female genitals.   Outwardly I just stuffed it.   

Now I am the oldest in my family and usually the oldest in my play group so I went to school and drove into life without much of any kind of a life's mode.   As a child born just after the end of World War II adults had their world and children had theirs and many times the worlds did not exist in the same mentality.    My mom, dad, and stepdad knew well the life style of the wine, sex, and gambling nature of the Deadwood I grew up in before puberty kept my brother and I protected from it.    We weren't to go downtown at night.   As a family we only went to the Old Style Saloon a couple of times and my folk's idea of partying at home was a game of cards and small talk with an other couple once in a blue moon.

   I just ran in the hills, played softball on a narrow, street, and delivered newspapers.   I went out for baseball to sit on the bench and just existed as a boy scout never getting higher than first class by the time I was 19.   I was a mediocre male who day dreamed her way through life making very few connections and hardly ever getting any self satisfaction from the baseball, football, wrestling, track, where I practiced but was never quite good enough to play in many games.

  I never insisted or worked for owning a car and when I was given a 22 rifle by my step dad and later he took it back saying it wasn't his to give me, I never insisted on another.   I lived in the country and never insisted on having a BB gun to shoot at the birds.    I eventually taught myself to drive and bought my own car.    I earned my spending money delivering papers in all kinds of weather 7 days a week (male job then,  male or female now), shoveling snow, mowing grass, setting pins in a bowling alley, selling concessions at the rodeo,  etching pictures for newspaper, and mopping my stepdad's barbershop.   

   All of this didn't make me any more of a man or less of a woman.   In all of this I was a polite little girl who politely waited her turn which hardly ever came,  got no ego boost, and I lived in a daze wondering why when I put in the work,  I got so little reward, and was totally ignored by the coaches.    I spent my life trying to do things,  I had little idea of knowing how to do, and stressing myself out about not achieving an unrealistic level of success.    The adults worked with those who could, ignored those who struggled hoping they would quit which I was too block headed to do.   Maybe I was hoping the female would fade away and the male would kick in who knows. 

At home I had the female house chores of washing cloths in the old ringer washer and hanging them on the line, washing dishes, and general house keeping.   Both my stepdad and mother cooked but us kids never did.   I learned a little about cooking over campfires at boy scout camp outs. 

In high school I had two boy friends one of which was an intellectual preacher's kid and the other a mechanical, electrical whizz whose dad was a welder and auto mechanic.    At the time I thought I was one of the guys,   but I was probably the Platonic girl friend to each.   I watch my boy friend work on his car, but never jumped into work together with him.  I waited for him to ask, he never did.   I hung out with my other boy friend at his father's church and sang in the choir with him and went to youth group.    I learned to think but often felt like a tagalong.   

I did not date, except to take another girl, to my senior prom.   I was just living one life in the world an another in my head.   Others may have seen this, but I never did.   

I was picked on by the toughies but I always held my ground without fighting,  but never called names.   I lived on the edges with two other nerds.   

As far as sex goes, its fun, I like it,  but I was a wuss about it.   I am extremely shy in talking and joking about sex, a dismal failure at putting myself in a situation where sex could occur,  I am extremely shy female and ignorant in initiating sex, and I have a male sex organ.    I enjoy sex and have fun at it, but only if I feel that I am a woman in the relationship.    Sex for me evolves out of a relationship with another person which so far has only been with another female.   Sex and love for me are matters of sharing sex and not one person forcing it upon another.   However if some one I liked was sexually aggressive with me, I would surrender to it.     

I struggled like this most of my life.   I got married, had kids, worked in the female world of elementary teaching, ducking male responsibilities whenever possible.   Being married meant that I could acquire female clothing without breaking the barrier of buying them myself.  It also meant that I spent lots of time shopping with her in the female departments of stores and became more and more comfortable there.

Struggle with being female yes.   When I tried to crush my day dreaming about being a woman, it popped up in my dreams.    As I grew older I grew bolder about wearing woman's clothing under my male clothing especially during the summer while I was out of town as a state bee hive inspector.    So gradually femininity was moving from my fantasy world to my physical world and my fears and apprehensions grew less. 

It took along time to accept the fact that I was a woman and not a man.   It also took me along time to realize that there was nothing wrong with me being a woman.   Then as I have gotten older I have learned that at least with myself the world didn't care that I was a woman.   Then as of lately just being a woman as a matter of course.   Now I have not taken any hormones or had any surgeries.   I have worn woman's underclothing for at least 13 years 24/7/365.   I wear make up constantly.    I have three padded bras which have given me visible breasts which I wear 24/7/365.   I have ghost breasts like a ghost arm which an amputee still feels.   

I came to the conclusion a long time ago after my first wife left me and I was alone that it was better for me to try living and developing my femaleness in a family and in society rather than being a hermit.    If I just lived in my shell in my corner of the world I would just be a fantasy dream woman of the 1950s and live a paranoid life in fear of other people.    I am living with another female now who knew from the beginning that I preferred to dress as a female and she now accepts my public presentation as such.  Right now I think we are just friends who share a son together, but we live as a married couple with all of the ups and downs of such a relationship.

I guess I have gotten long winded as I am want to do.    I guess I just tried to ignore and live in ignorance of the fact I was a trans female and stumbled through life as a unenthusiastic male who gradually made life choices to live more in the female world until I finely surrendered to my femaleness in my middle 60's.

In many ways I have lived naive complicated life  which is grounded in a very deep liberal religious faith.   I guess every time I get into writing like this I am trying to rethink my life to put into perspective.   I envision my life as a sweet little girl, with the body of a boy,  who daintily tips her dainty toe into the male world waiting to be invited in.   Some times she dresses male and wades into the male world and daintily tests out different aspects of it,  but is so totally unwilling to commit herself to it.   She spends many years hiding her beautiful pink dress under the camouflage of maleness while she gradually over the years does a strip tease until the femaleness is revealed and the male facade is thrown away.
Be true to yourself.  The future will reveal itself in its own due time.    Find the calm at the heart of the storm.    I own my womanhood.

I am a 69-year-old transsexual school teacher grandma & lady.   Ethnically I am half Irish  and half Scandinavian.   I can be a real bitch or quite loving and caring.  I have never taken any hormones or had surgery, I am out 24/7/365.
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ReverseRainbow

I gave in to my mother's constant push for me to wear make up. I wore lipstick for about 2 weeks, and I hated it. Every time I looked in the mirror, all I could see was a boy in bad drag make-up.
Everyone gave me these 'oh you look so much prettier now' comments. Pretty is not the adjective I want. All the compliments for something that made me feel so wrong.
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