My girlfriend can see a difference, but I'm not really sure if I do. Almost makes me wonder if T is doing anything to me...I've had plenty of other changes, but I'm not sure if I look any less female for lack of a better phrase. Opinions?

Pre-T :

3 Months on T :

You looked good even before you started T In your second picture, I cant really see any huge changes but that is pretty normal for only being 3 months. I think that your eyebrows look a little different and you look a little bit older

I personally think you look great, even before the T. I can notice small changes, but I guess the pictures can't really tell any detail. As you say, your girlfriend noticed changes so it is probably more visible in real life.

Plus, 3 months on T is not very long. It will take longer before you start to notice drastic changes.

Your eyebrows have definitely bushed out, but the angle makes it kinda hard for me to compare anything else.  Like everyone else said though, you've still got plenty of time for more changes.

I used to try to groom my eyebrows to not be so hardcore, now I just said screw it and take care of the unibrow haha. The only thing I really notice is I'm losing my chubby cheeks.

I'm impatient, and that doesn't really mix well with testosterone.

Holy cow. How did you grow a beard before T?

yor hairline changed for the better i think and your face looks ,ore male i just cant quite put my finger on it.

I can see a little change, can't really pinpoint what it is though. Maybe the haircut? You pass really well pre-T.  Ya look great!

Quote from: mangoslayer on September 26, 2012, 08:36:44 AM
Holy cow. How did you grow a beard before T?

I started shaving in 6th grade, I know everyone believes that you can't grow facial hair just by shaving, but I really am convinced that's what made it happen.

Quote from: AJarrah on September 26, 2012, 04:59:45 PM
I started shaving in 6th grade, I know everyone believes that you can't grow facial hair just by shaving, but I really am convinced that's what made it happen.

thats pretty sick that you had a pre T beard i dont think shaving made it happen as shaving just gives your hairs blunt ends as aposed to tapered ones maybe you just have really high natural T like me. still i couldn't grow jack except three tiny brown mustache hairs and some thick, vellus, peach fuzz in the side burn area, i still cant grow anything decent but it runs in the family. btw the beard in my avatar ifs fake.

Quote from: anibioman on September 26, 2012, 05:54:27 PM

thats pretty sick that you had a pre T beard i dont think shaving made it happen as shaving just gives your hairs blunt ends as aposed to tapered ones maybe you just have really high natural T like me. still i couldn't grow jack except three tiny brown mustache hairs and some thick, vellus, peach fuzz in the side burn area, i still cant grow anything decent but it runs in the family. btw the beard in my avatar ifs fake.

I think I have high T levels naturally, yes. I did labs last week and when they came back my doctor emailed to let me know that my Testosterone level was at the "high end of normal", so it's supposed to be between 300-1000 for a male and mine is 869. I wish she would have done one before I started, that would've been a cool comparison.
Part of me also thinks it was possibly a psychosematic effect, like for instance when a woman convinces herself she's pregnant, her body starts having all of the symptoms of pregnancy and even grows the belly. I think maybe I had so strongly convinced myself I was bio-male, maybe my body started trying to follow suit? I don't know, but I just find it hard to believe I would have grown THIS MUCH facial hair had I been staying female. That would just be too ironic.

Some people are born with a little extra T in their blood(there is actually a medical condition for this in biological females and sometimes it can be severe enough to warrant blocking it all together).  It could be your worst nightmare or your greatest asset, depending on angle you view it.

The golden genes for transition 

In all honesty between the top and the bottom, I fail to see any femininity AT ALL.  You have a softer face in the second image but to be honest it has to do with lighting, and angle more than you. 

Quote from: AJarrah on September 26, 2012, 04:59:45 PM
I started shaving in 6th grade, I know everyone believes that you can't grow facial hair just by shaving, but I really am convinced that's what made it happen.

It's true, shaving doesn't make you grow hair. Odds are you just had an unnaturally high T level.  Because you shaved every day, you couldn't see the hair growing and slowly spreading.  As you age any hair you have does naturally grow and cover more area. 

Quote from: Andy8715 on September 27, 2012, 01:47:28 AM
It's true, shaving doesn't make you grow hair. Odds are you just had an unnaturally high T level.  Because you shaved every day, you couldn't see the hair growing and slowly spreading.  As you age any hair you have does naturally grow and cover more area.

Yea, if it did most of us would be in trouble right now xD


Waxing can cause that kind of reaction though.  Any attack, especially if it causes you to bleed  can result in a little hair growth.  Doubt anything significant but food for thought    To prove that theory I got my arms waxed, my left arm took a beating and my right arm got away lucky.  My right arm atm is super thinned now now from hormones, while my left arm has been more resilient to change.

After 3 months, you shouldn't be worried about T 'not working,'
T takes a very long time to really show any 'signs' of working.
Sure, you'll notice little things bit by bit; voice, facial hair, the bloody fairy making her escape.
But it's going to take time :3 Just be patient with it,
And if several more months pass and you don't see any changes, have a chat with your doc

Quote from: GentlemanRDP on September 27, 2012, 09:04:25 AM
After 3 months, you shouldn't be worried about T 'not working,'
T takes a very long time to really show any 'signs' of working.
Sure, you'll notice little things bit by bit; voice, facial hair, the bloody fairy making her escape.
But it's going to take time :3 Just be patient with it,
And if several more months pass and you don't see any changes, have a chat with your doc

Thankfully my voice was already really deep, more than the average female at least. My voice is considerably deeper already which is nice. I'm not good at noticing changes, I lost 80 lbs a couple of years ago and would worry that I didn't look different LOL. Even more thankfully that God awful fairy left the first month...

Thanks for all the replies, I appreciate everyone's input

Quote from: Rita on September 27, 2012, 01:51:58 AM
Yea, if it did most of us would be in trouble right now xD


Waxing can cause that kind of reaction though.  Any attack, especially if it causes you to bleed  can result in a little hair growth.  Doubt anything significant but food for thought    To prove that theory I got my arms waxed, my left arm took a beating and my right arm got away lucky.  My right arm atm is super thinned now now from hormones, while my left arm has been more resilient to change.

Well, I chemical burned my face with Nair once thinking that would get rid of the little bit of facial hair I was growing back in middle school/high school...that definitely made me bleed. Haha. Shortly after I discovered they make Nair for faces....lesson learned

I see a difference in your hairline, and it looks like your jaw is filling out.  You pass really well even pre-T, so I wouldn't worry too much.  Like everyone else has said, it takes a while.

Quote from: AJarrah on September 27, 2012, 09:49:13 AM
Well, I chemical burned my face with Nair once thinking that would get rid of the little bit of facial hair I was growing back in middle school/high school...that definitely made me bleed. Haha. Shortly after I discovered they make Nair for faces....lesson learned

Yea, my mom saw I bought nair this one time she taught me how to use it so I didn't hurt myself xD  Oh yea nair burns I can only imagine your upper lip omg that would hurt so much.  For some reason you can poke it, pinch it, kiss it, or dip it in BBQ but once you sting it its like omg WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO ME xD

Quote from: Rita on September 27, 2012, 01:38:05 PM
Yea, my mom saw I bought nair this one time she taught me how to use it so I didn't hurt myself xD  Oh yea nair burns I can only imagine your upper lip omg that would hurt so much.  For some reason you can poke it, pinch it, kiss it, or dip it in BBQ but once you sting it its like omg WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO ME xD

LOL fact.
I did it on my chin and probably still have a scar from it. That burned SO bad. My mom's like "what's that from?" "NOTHING...."