i work at a church school, it's an anglican one but linked to so high an anglican church they are more like Catholics, they even have a picture of the Pope.

Most of the children, however go to churches with nutty names like 'The Church of God who does miracles and will revitalise your soul if you send us money'. Or "The Church of Christ the thrice blessed and all his angels who are in eternal war against satan" and other such crazineness.

Today we did the feeding of the five thousand and we were talking about the story and the message of sharing (my class is of five-year-olds, learning to share is very important to us). One of the girls decided to inform me of what her daddy said. Her daddy said that if a girl wears men's clothes or a boy wears women's clothes that they will be punished. I know this is in the Bible but it did spark a question, which I asked the girl.

1) Why would God; an all-powerfull, all-knowing, all-benevolent being far removed and above the psychology of the human mind be offering fashion tips?

May I ask what you would consider a non nutty name for a church?

ive never heard of names like those before...

They are a largely African import to London.
Mine are slightly exaggerated but not much. There is also a church called GodZone.

I doubt that god gives fashion tips - at least based on the way I see most priests, nuns, and ministers dressed.  Yeesh. 

Really, doesn't it trivialize god to think that god would care about fashion?

pff i dress good on Sundays lol. This is the set I own (the Chausible is during Advent....so we wear different colors depending on the year)





One of the reasons why I love Sundays because i love what I wear!

Also, if God were "perfect", then would it have technically made a mistake by creating trans people in the first place?

Quote from: DianaP on October 02, 2012, 05:47:01 PM
Also, if God were "perfect", then would it have technically made a mistake by creating trans people in the first place?

that's in the eyes of the beholder. I find my trans status a unique blessing in which I have experienced both male and female lives in every way possible.

So, for me, it was not a mistake.

May I ask how the child's question got from "sharing" to "what people wear"?

Also (I'm curious), where is it in the Bible that it says "...a girl wears men's clothes or a boy wears women's clothes that they will be punished"?

Quote from: Beth Andrea on October 02, 2012, 08:54:55 PM
Also (I'm curious), where is it in the Bible that it says "...a girl wears men's clothes or a boy wears women's clothes that they will be punished"?

I doubt it says that anywhere. A lot of religious folks take things out of context and make stuff up to get their way. Annah here is one of the good ones.

Quote from: DianaP on October 02, 2012, 08:59:52 PM
I doubt it says that anywhere. A lot of religious folks take things out of context and make stuff up to get their way. Annah here is one of the good ones.

It is in the OT. It would take me a while to look it up, so give me a bit.

Quote from: Beth Andrea on October 02, 2012, 08:54:55 PM
May I ask how the child's question got from "sharing" to "what people wear"?

Also (I'm curious), where is it in the Bible that it says "...a girl wears men's clothes or a boy wears women's clothes that they will be punished"?

Dueteronomy 22:5  KJV


5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God.

Quote from: SarahM777 on October 02, 2012, 09:15:07 PM
Dueteronomy 22:5  KJV


5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God.

Thank you, SarahM777 (she of the same "last name" as Brooke777  ).

Good thing that when I was Christian (pre-TS), I saw the Bible (with the exception of the 10 Commandments and the Salvation) as more of a "guide" than actual, literal Thou Shalt/Shalt Not's. That is just me, though. To each his/her own, just don't kill me.

Quote from: Beth Andrea on October 02, 2012, 09:24:11 PM
Thank you, SarahM777 (she of the same "last name" as Brooke777  ).

We must be related 

Quote from: Beth Andrea on October 02, 2012, 08:54:55 PM
May I ask how the child's question got from "sharing" to "what people wear"?

"I doubt that god gives fashion tips - at least based on the way I see most priests, nuns, and ministers dressed.  Yeesh.

Really, doesn't it trivialize god to think that god would care about fashion?"

Quote from: Beth Andrea on October 02, 2012, 08:54:55 PM
May I ask how the child's question got from "sharing" to "what people wear"?

She's 5, it could have gone anywhere.

Her father is a bigot and the god his mind has created is a bigot against all the same things.

Imagine that.

Quote from: Brooke777 on October 02, 2012, 09:45:03 PM
We must be related 

Could be 

Quote from: Beth Andrea on October 02, 2012, 09:24:11 PM
Thank you, SarahM777 (she of the same "last name" as Brooke777  ).

Good thing that when I was Christian (pre-TS), I saw the Bible (with the exception of the 10 Commandments and the Salvation) as more of a "guide" than actual, literal Thou Shalt/Shalt Not's. That is just me, though. To each his/her own, just don't kill me.

It's harder coming the other way for sure.

Don't worry it's not something I even want to get involved with.

Biblical speaking i think men and women wore the same things. Robes. Except women's  head coverings and Men's soldier armor.