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Am I the last person to have a dumb phone

Started by Christine, September 23, 2012, 01:30:14 PM

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tekla

Tongue in Cheek But true

That's why I said, 'just for fun' - it is an interesting set of notions about technological imperatives that are swirling about.  Me, hell I'm totally OG when it comes to that stuff.  I leave my phone on my desk at work and will not answer it, check it - nothing - until break time - or more usually lunch.*  And I make no secret of the fact that one of the reasons I'm telling people to get off the phone and do the work they are being paid for is because I get to be some form of 'the boss' because I"M NOT ON THE F**** PHONE ALL THE DAMN TIME.

And when I'm out and about, you pretty much have to be my GF or the union hall if you want me to answer the thing and talk into it.  So I doubt I've ever been so rude as to hold up a line because I'm on the phone.  Actually in day to day practice I am - as a friend of mine once said - "ruthlessly polite'.  Not because I'm a good person (I'm not).  But because being extremely polite is by far the easiest and best way to make other people do what you want them to do.  I pretty much save up all my rudeness to unload on people who do one thing (and it's something I've had to put up with for 40 years so my response is carefully crafted and rehearsed and practiced to the point that it looks completely spontaneous), and that's look me in the face and say: Don't you know who I am?  Whenever that happens hilarity ensues (for everyone except the person who said it).

Of course Cindy, you and I are of a tender age - awe hell, we're really old - and not tuned into this modern now a go-go world in which we live.  That, and you are blessed by your position (as I am with mine) with the ability (leisure really) to make that choice.  Sadly, many today are not - they are forced to always be available, on call, in touch and all that.  I'm sure it sucks to be them too.  But it's hard, people are trained to answer - like Pavlov's Dog - no matter what.  It took a long time to train myself through a lot of reverse conditioning to be able to sit in peace while a phone was ringing.  But it took a horrible and terrible lesson to get there.  Toward the end of college - when I was still all into being a modern guy, that 'self-starter' that 'go to person', that person who had to answer every call no matter what... - I (and for better or worse I can still picture this moment like it was yesterday) I was banging this really hot babe who I had been trying for the better part of four years to nail and right in the middle of giving her the best that I had, the phone rings and I pick it up...  Can you say "not impressed"?  Not just coitus interruptus, it was flat out - coitus never again if you were the last person on earth, I mean really, did you just answer the phone?  REALLY?  (in my defense I didn't miss a beat, now we'd just call that mulit-tasking)

But that is increasingly a luxury that few can afford.

I will give the smart phones this much - I do love how you can program calling group and give people individual ringtones so that you know who is calling without having to check, or worse - be unpleasantly surprised.  And if they are annoying enough -and you people know who you are - you can as someone above stated, program the sucker so that persons calls to go straight to voice mail, the modern equivalent of oblivion.


Beth, that may well be true where you are, but when I see these 24 hour a day phone people (and of course, get to listen to at least half the conversation) they are not on what used to be colorfully referred to as 'a personal phone call'.  And they are not -  self-important boobs - they are pretty important boobs.  The two-thousand dollar suit with the $120 Italian silk tie or scarf are dead giveaways.  Under all the hippie-dippy, Victorian houses and sourdough bread it turns out San Francisco is the financial capital of the Pacific Rim, the venture capital capital of the world, one of the world's largest corporate headquarters, and ground zero for most of the stuff that we're talking about here.  A whole lot of what goes on here in the Bay Area is basically inventing the future.  When they release their 'new and improved and updated' phone, like Apple did last week, they do it a couple of blocks from where I work in a lavish - read: decadent - multi-million dollar event/party/launch.  And since the phone sold over $5 million on the first day alone, I see the reasoning there.  So that 'self-important' boob is, in fact, a lawyer, stockbroker, big corporate (you know, corporate like Intel, Apple, Bank of America, Chevron) manager, and what they are talking about is worth a whole lot more money - to themselves and lots of other people too - then the price of the items there on the counter.

Oh yeah, and about that whatever the latest drama is in Hollywood.  Do you realize - and I say it because most people don't - that 'arts and entertainment' is the second largest American export, coming in behind food/agriculture, but well ahead of weapons, technology, automobiles, pet rocks, and all the other stuff we export.  SECOND, out of everything else.  So that 'latest drama' is, in fact, worth millions, billions, trillions.  And it's also the largest US employer in terms of payroll.  Simply put, more people make more money in arts and entertainment than in any other economic sector.  In LA, where Hollywoodland actually is, they don't call it "Hollywood" - they refer to it simply as 'The Industry.'  But hey, go ahead and make light of it, that is, after all what you've been told to do.  If the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was to convince the world he didn't exist, then the greatest bit of fictional entertainment is convincing everyone else that it's not work, and it's not serious.


* - I already have - because the first thing I do when I get to work is strap the very tool of the devil on - a radio sitting a few inches from my ear so that all the bosses, managers, idiots et.all at work can reach out and touch me whenever they feel the need, and that's more than enough annoyance/interruption for any one day, without putting everyone else in the world in the que too.
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Stephe

Quote from: tekla on September 24, 2012, 12:47:22 PM
  So that 'self-important' boob is, in fact, a lawyer, stockbroker, big corporate (you know, corporate like Intel, Apple, Bank of America, Chevron) manager, and what they are talking about is worth a whole lot more money - to themselves and lots of other people too - then the price of the items there on the counter.

So what? That doesn't give them the right to be rude, waste other people's time or in any way make it right. If what they are talking about is so flipping important, step out of the line.

Where I live 99% of the people doing this are talking to their boy friend or a neighbor about some total BS, not the head of Exxon making a deal that will affect the future of our nation.
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Pica Pica

I have a dumbphone, cost me five pounds three years ago. It doesn't have a camera or games and when I was mugged they gave it back.

That said it costs me ten pound every two/three months to run, the battery lasts nearly a month without charging and the quality of sound is better than any smart phone to use and, given the company I keep, the quality of conversation far better than most I overhear.

My spare money goes on books, food, the pub and the odd live show/exhibition. I'm happy like that.

That said, I am helped because the job I have requires that I turn my phone off and keep it in a cupboard so I can have real-time, three-dimensional interaction with the thirty-odd five year olds I am paid to keep my beady's on.
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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BlonT

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twit

My phone is about 3 years old and it does take pics and I have a text package that I really don't use. Heck I use it so little that my battery is still the original battery that came with it and it still lasts a few days every charge. I don't care for internet on a phone or all that other crap and I ditched the landline a few years ago because it was a huge waste of money.  And honestly. unless a name pops up on the caller id when it rings, then I must not know the caller, so I don't answer.
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Nicolette

My semi-smartphone just died. I need it for the car parking in Westminster in London tomorrow morning. So I've had to dig out my year 2000 mobile phone.

Alas:


If I get any looks from strangers, I'll demand what the current year is...
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Disgusting

My phone's not a smartphone; I feel a little left out, but eh.  I don't feel like I'd have much use for a fancy little computer-phone if I had one.  I cannot afford it anyway.
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Jayne

I've had my phone for several years now, it cost £7 & came with £10 free credit & is still working fine.

For some reason I don't feel the need to update facebook every 5 minutes & if there's something I want to know it's never urgent enough for me to look it up there & then, i'm happy to wait until i'm sat in my comfy chair infront of my big TV to go surfing.

Until I saw this thread I was starting to worry that there was something wrong with me
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Jayne

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electric sheep

After accidentally dropping my touch-screen smartphone predecessor in the toilet earlier this year and completely frying the thing (it was on the verge of being broken anyway) I decided that phones weren't worth it so I bought the cheapest dumb phone I could get.

Sure, one day I'd love an iPhone, but not for the price they go at now, not with my unemployment check.
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tekla

not with my unemployment check.

Using my phone to its greatest ability pretty much keeps me off unemployment.  For me and how I work, it's how business is done.
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Stephe

Quote from: tekla on October 10, 2012, 08:06:09 AM
not with my unemployment check.

Using my phone to its greatest ability pretty much keeps me off unemployment.  For me and how I work, it's how business is done.


Yeah, I guess this poster is too stupid to know if a smart phone is needed for the type of work they do or not...
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Apples Mk.II



Mine is not a dumb phone. It's a TOUGH PHONE. Not Sonim or Militartec, but hey: Two weeks battery life, and better sound and reception quality than most smarphones. Even the battery lid is bolted and is certified as dust resistant. In the test they put it inside a beer of glass and make a call to it.


And of course... I am not paying for a data plan every month. I already spend 8 hours per day replying to e-mails and browsing the net, so not really interest in getting all sorts of notifications outside my job. I like to relax and feel disconected. If you need to tell me something, just talk. No whatsapp or random cr*p programs.

Damn, More than five years in the IT business and I already am either a ludite or a technophobe.  The only problem is that I am seen as awkward, when people ask me what is the best smartphone to get (expecting that I already have it) and I show them my poor Nokia... No smartphone, no table, no mac, not even a laptop. Just a phone and a netbook I only use in travels. On the other hand, I won't leave home without a notebook and a pen...


PS: Yes, I had a bad experience with a crappy Winmo 6.1 Smartphone. Not wanting to repeat the experiencie.
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JessicaH

Rudeness and the oblivious were with us long before telephones.  I'd rather someone chat while waiting on a cashier (they better have their debit/credit card or cash ready) than wait for the polite person in front of me to not even get their check book out until the cashier tells them the total. It is one of my top pet peeves and has caused me to REALLY hate check-writing. If you are writing a check, it only makes sense to have it signed and filled out as much as possible when the cashier tells you the total. But really, get a debit card...

I carry two smartphones at all times and sometimes have two other phones (depending on what country I'm in) and a satellite phone in my bag in case I need to make calls where there is absolutely no other coverage. I really need to buy a smartphone that will hold 2 or three sim cards so I can reduce the number of phones I need to carry.  I also carry 4 different USB dongles for internet service on my laptop and can tether from my smartphones as well.

Being "connected" is an important part of my job but I am mindful of manners and always put the conversation on hold while interacting with cashiers or anyone else.  IF I must remain in a conversation, I apologize to a cashier and quickly explain that I must take this call and they can tell by the conversation that it's all business (I also have my debit card ready and watch the cashier closely). 

I have noticed that some people are better at multi-tasking while on a phone and they can easily be identified. Simply ask them a question while they are on the phone or ask them to pass a message to the other person. If they can't pass this basic test then they shouldn't drive or anything else while on the phone.  I have to be good at multi-tasking and can use a laptop, talk on the phone and eat, all while driving. I don't recommend that for most people but I do it well. It gets frustrating sometimes when I have calls on two cell phones and someone else trying to call as well. 
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Christine

I always thought Nokia had the best sound. The current generation of dumb phones just don't have the sound quality.
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Nicolette

I'm within metres range of a PC, 23/7. I was definitely going to get a Galaxy Note 2, but then I asked myself: why? Cool is not enough to justify it.
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Elsa

wait till you try the new xperia series - I was blown away by the sound quality.

anyways, my parents hate phones so they are sticking to the old nokia and sony ericsson dumb phones.
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tekla

If they can't pass this basic test then they shouldn't drive or anything else while on the phone.

I don't care how good you are at mulit-tasking, no one should be driving and be on the phone, there is just too much at stake - mostly for the innocents in your vicinity.  I'm not all that bent out of shape about being on the phone and doing a grocery check-out, but that's not in the same league as moving a ton of metal down a public street, particularly if your driving in an urban area.

And I'm finding that increasingly if you want to tell me something important - or vice-versa - text it, that way I'll have proof as to what was communicated.


Yeah, I guess this poster is too stupid to know if a smart phone is needed for the type of work they do or not...
But your not doing any work, hence the unemployment check.  The way business is being done is changing fast (again), and lots of people are being left behind.
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Pica Pica

I lost the back and my phone is now being held together with a rubberband.



I've decided I will stick with it until the rubberband breaks, then I'll upgrade - to a new rubberband.

(That said, were I to have got that curator's job, I'd have been straight on an iphone and synching my diary on it with my computer.)

Also, Hannah, to need to be that contactable you must be the ruler of the world or something.
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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Elena G

I've never seen the slavery and hollowness of modern life disguised so well behind a shroud of self-assurance.

Business here, business that... but 18k long-*** posts on an internet forum.

If this is the future, I'd rather be dead...



...and lovely post, Cindy, BY THE WAY.
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or treat me mean...
I'll make the most of it,
I'm an extraordinary machine
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