I'm vegan. No meat. No milk. No egg.

I think buying meat is not diferent from torturing a human baby all his life and killing him.

Quote from: insideontheoutside on October 05, 2012, 12:56:25 AM
What made me want to start eating meat again was the continual "better than you" attitude I saw in the veg/vegan community.

As people here have already pointed out, that goes both ways. Some non-veggies seem to pick fights, poke fun, etc. I was vegetarian for 3 years and I'm glad for the experience. I tried a lot of great foods that I still eat that I might not otherwise have tried if I hadn't needed to expand my choices. But I can relate. One time I was just chatting at lunch in college and was having some kind of croissant stuffed with spinach. I mentioned that spinach had the highest protein of any vegetable. I just thought it was an interesting bit of trivia. I hadn't even mentioned that I was vegetarian and I certainly wasn't at all preachy about it or trying to convert anyone. Some guy took it upon himself to be preachy about meat-eating and started "schooling" me about amino acids or some such and why I needed to eat meat to be healthy. 

I remember it was also during that 3-year time when I was at a fairly progressive party. The host was trying to be vegetarian-friendly by having two different soups available: one vege and one with chicken and he was asking people which they wanted. One guy who was VERY preachy about it said "I won't eat anything with eyes." Remember, I was vegetarian at the time. I said, totally deadpan serious and playing dumb to the hilt, "I'm pretty sure they cut their heads off. There are no eyes in that chicken", referring to the soup. Oh, the evil eye he shot me...

Quote from: insideontheoutside on October 05, 2012, 12:56:25 AM
I had been vegetarian for some 15 or so years mostly because of the reasons Tessa mentioned above ^

What made me want to start eating meat again was the continual "better than you" attitude I saw in the veg/vegan community.

I've never known any other vegetarians/vegans (remember I am from the south) but I've heard this is a huge problem.

I'm currently in the South and have been my most successful at being Vegan here! Who knew! We happen to have a couple of really great vegan restaurants run and frequented by mainly punk / Anarchist folk--my peeps! I've cooked in both places and learned a ton that I've brought home and incorporated into my daily life over the past 8 years.

It's just like anything else; some folks will be dicks and have a holier-than-thou attitude, no matter what their pet cause.
xo

In all those years I was veg the most attitude I got was from other veg/vegan people. Like I always took fish oil caps for the omegas and I would continually get crap from other veg's saying I wasn't veg if I took a fish oil supplement. Or they would feel "safe" to talk openly around me and then just let loose with the meat-eater hatred and how they're all killing the planet, blah blah blah. I would usually just suddenly have to go if I got talking with someone like that. I did get poked fun of by meat eaters in those years but I never got the feeling that there was a hostility behind it (it was more like they had the attitude, "well that's your problem ... more meat for me to eat huzah!"). And when I moved from Southern California I thought I'd be in big trouble going to a more rural area but everyone was cool. It was only when I'd go to specific veg places, health conventions, etc (Portland was a main offender of this!) that I'd feel that attitude again.

I am a vegetarian. I am told that I should be vegan. That vegetarianism is pointless. I eat diary but no animal products besides. I have tried rice milk and like it but I'm too stubborn in my ways to fully give milk up. The person who said I should be vegan instead eats meat. I have no judgements on people who eat meat or fish. I don't mind, it's their choice. My mate was worried about eating meat in front of me. I thought why worry? It's my views I am not offended and won't impose anything on anyone. I do repeat myself unintentionally.

I wish I was a Vegeta! I think I'd rather be him than a female(joking), only cause he is the only awesome guy I can think of in this world. (on my computer anyway, this appears as "anyone else a vegeta . . ." and me being a Dragonball Z fan, Vegeta being my favorite, o well, maybe someone will get this!)

Yes, I am a vegetarian though. I am one because I care about animals and could never think of eating one. I make sure to buy products that include animal byproducts, such as milk, from sources that treat the animals well. 

I'm a DBZ fan also. Vegeta was my favourite. Nice to meet another person who likes him.

When I was younger I wanted Vegeta for Christmas. I wrote Santa a letter asking for the real live Vegeta, but he never gave me him.   

I rather be Videl, she is really really cool! And a stronger fighter than her dad.  If she wasn't bound by human limitations she would be insanely powerful to.

She went up against fighters that beat the snot out of Goku, and somehow managed to look cool and last longer than most humans.  Even if she did no damage.

I idolized her as a kid O-o

I'm actually not a bacontarian . I'm paleo, which tends to bring to mind a high-meat diet. That's not quite accurate though meat is certainly allowed. It's more about replacing bizarre, processed, modern foods with their more natural traditional forms. A big part is actually avoiding unhealthy carbohydrates, which often get overlooked as a health hazard, and replacing them with healthy fats for energy, and fat often gets overly demonized (according to paleo folks, anyway). Occasionally it even overlaps with vegetarian diets which made me thought you guys might like to try this recipe. You can even be both vegetarian & paleo and I personally know some people doing that.

http://paleospirit.com/2012/paleo-chocolate-chip-cookies-gluten-free-vegan/

And there are probably a lot more vegetarian recipes in this list.

http://paleospirit.com/2012/paleo-chocolate-chip-cookies-gluten-free-vegan/

To be completely honest, I need to qualify that I'm paleo-ish. I don't abide by it completely strictly. I find that dairy in many forms doesn't seem to cause me any problems and I love too many dairy products (heavy cream, ice cream, cheese) to give it up. I don't do any milk though and I have been doing more raw milk products, though they're expensive so not too much. I even cheat with gluten (usually from wheat-based products) occasionally in small amounts. It seems my body can handle it in small amounts. If I over do it, I practically end up in a miserable gluten coma for half a day.

I'm not a vegetarian but I do try and do vegetarian meals (I mean no dairy but probably not strictly vegan) every couple weeks. Afaik there are no sources of omega 3s that work quite like fish oil. There is flax seed oil but it is processed in the body differently. But since it is from fish it is not strictly speaking vegetarian. I think some fish are smarter than chickens.
:-)  But anyway, I think you have to make your choices. I think if you are eating lots of high fat cheese it probably defeats the health benefits of being a vegetarian but there are people who do it just because they don't want to eat meat. I think there would be many health benefits to vegetarian over vegan, as you would have an easier time with certain nutrients.
I don't like any "milks" (soy, almond, etc.) and I hate soy pretty much. I don't think that I'd do well as a vegetarian, but the health benefits are really great.


--Jay J

i'm not vegetarian, but have no problems eating only vegetarian food. i'm pretty good at cooking, but can't cook meat right, so when i make food it usually ends up vegetarian. i even bake vegetarian pizza that beats most of the ones with meat.

i don't have any philosophy when it comes to food other than not kill more than i intend to eat. but i can't eat animal fat, not because i don't like it, but my body seems intent on rejecting it for some reason. very inconvenient when trying to eat meat, because so many factory animals seem to only have fat on their bodies. the animals we keep at my parents' farm are so much tastier, since they get to walk around freely before it's time to butcher them.

I eat meat substitutes which meat eaters think is weird. Quorn meat substitutes are great my favourites are chicken,beef ,mince and sausages which I use in place of meat when I cook does anyone else use substitute meat?

Quote from: big kim on October 21, 2012, 02:18:05 AM
I eat meat substitutes which meat eaters think is weird. Quorn meat substitutes are great my favourites are chicken,beef ,mince and sausages which I use in place of meat when I cook does anyone else use substitute meat?

I do similar things sometimes.  The Morning Star brand is really good.  When I lived with my sister meals were heard because I was a vegetarian (but eat seafood) and she's allergic to seafood so I'd get the Morning Star Meatless Meatballs and make Spaghetti and Meatballs sometimes.

Quote from: Paul on October 21, 2012, 05:30:15 PM
I do similar things sometimes.  The Morning Star brand is really good.  When I lived with my sister meals were heard because I was a vegetarian (but eat seafood) and she's allergic to seafood so I'd get the Morning Star Meatless Meatballs and make Spaghetti and Meatballs sometimes.

I don't know what I'd do without Morning Star Farms Bacon... Even when I ate meat I preferred it over real bacon. I put it on a bagel with a chunk of scrambled egg and it's heaven, haha!