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Started by MarcoMacabre, October 14, 2012, 10:07:08 PM

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MarcoMacabre

Alright I'm going to be going to the hearing in a few days and I was wondering if there was anything that I should bring to the hearing? I highly doubt they will change my name because I'm in a very small and conservative town. But I'm thinking of just trying at least. Any help? Anything at all?
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spacial

You mean, suggestions for a new name?

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Cindy

Quote from: MarcoMacabre on October 14, 2012, 10:07:08 PM
Alright I'm going to be going to the hearing in a few days and I was wondering if there was anything that I should bring to the hearing? I highly doubt they will change my name because I'm in a very small and conservative town. But I'm thinking of just trying at least. Any help? Anything at all?

Not sure what you mean, a little bit of an explanation would be useful.
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JenniL

sounds like they are asking what documentation to bring to court when they see the judge I am guessing, if that is the case, letters from therapist and or doctor probably. As for what the letters  contain I have no idea honestly.

I live in Washington state, so I just showed up as female,the  judge looked at me and asked me the few questions needed and that was that. Told me to have great afternoon.

my two cents.

Jennifer






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Brooke777

Since you stated you are in a conservative place, I would bring a letter from your therapist saying you are being treated by them and require a name change to properly transition.

Also, it does not depend so much on the town as it does on the state and county. From what I understand about where I live, the process is the same in every county.
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MarcoMacabre

Oh yeah xD I was looking for documentation as to what to bring. Sorry if it wasn't clear. Well I don't have a letter of T yet as I have to complete one more session. But this is just for the name change. I'm not at the gender yet (Because I thought it was a different process and just found out it was different).
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Cindy

It seems to vary a lot from country to country. I did find good old Google helped when I asked for name change -where I live- it had quite detailed instructions so that may be a help.

Good Luck by the way

Hugs

Cindy
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Jamie D

Quote from: MarcoMacabre on October 15, 2012, 03:59:11 PM
Oh yeah xD I was looking for documentation as to what to bring. Sorry if it wasn't clear. Well I don't have a letter of T yet as I have to complete one more session. But this is just for the name change. I'm not at the gender yet (Because I thought it was a different process and just found out it was different).

As long as you are not trying to defraud anyone, there is no reason why you can't change your name.
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MarcoMacabre

Quote from: Jamie D on October 16, 2012, 03:11:36 AM
As long as you are not trying to defraud anyone, there is no reason why you can't change your name.

Thank you!!

Also, does anyone know if there is allowed to be people in the court room? My father is going to try to get them to deny me even though I am 18, and in the state of Michigan that is considered an adult.
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tgchar21

Just because it's a conservative area doesn't mean that your name change is doomed. What matters (and this varies from state to state) is how much leeway the judges are given, and the main reason they have for denying a name change is if you're suspected to be committing fraud. Since you're 18 it is highly unlikely that they'd suspect that (since you probably wouldn't have had time to commit a felony and be released, or have large amounts of debt). Likewise it may be different in MI, but where I'm from someone can challenge a name change only on account that they think you're trying to defraud them, so an anti-trans parent wouldn't have standing where I live to challenge a name change.

You've probably already filed the petition so it would then be irrelevant for you, but I often suggest those changing their names in less-than-ideal-for-trans jurisdictions not even attest their trans status in the petition (and instead give the reason as something like personal preference, they wish to assume the name they've been informally known by, etc.). By doing that (as opposed to giving your gender change as the reason) it forces the judiciary if they deny your name change to possibly start a precedent on what constitutes a "male" or "female" name legally, which could have effects well beyond the trans community they want to avoid (as in potentially affecting anyone choosing a name for their baby). (By contrast a case deciding something like the validity of a trans marriage will have little effect beyond the trans and intersex communities, so a judge would have more freedom at making an unfavorable ruling with a case like that.)

There is a bit of a benefit of changing your name in a rural area if privacy down the road is a concern for you, because if you have to publish your name change it's more likely to remain off the Internet and other easily searchable means if it's published in a small-town newspaper as opposed to a major big-city one.
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MarcoMacabre

Quote from: tgchar21 on October 16, 2012, 07:44:08 AM
Just because it's a conservative area doesn't mean that your name change is doomed. What matters (and this varies from state to state) is how much leeway the judges are given, and the main reason they have for denying a name change is if you're suspected to be committing fraud. Since you're 18 it is highly unlikely that they'd suspect that (since you probably wouldn't have had time to commit a felony and be released, or have large amounts of debt). Likewise it may be different in MI, but where I'm from someone can challenge a name change only on account that they think you're trying to defraud them, so an anti-trans parent wouldn't have standing where I live to challenge a name change.

You've probably already filed the petition so it would then be irrelevant for you, but I often suggest those changing their names in less-than-ideal-for-trans jurisdictions not even attest their trans status in the petition (and instead give the reason as something like personal preference, they wish to assume the name they've been informally known by, etc.). By doing that (as opposed to giving your gender change as the reason) it forces the judiciary if they deny your name change to possibly start a precedent on what constitutes a "male" or "female" name legally, which could have effects well beyond the trans community they want to avoid (as in potentially affecting anyone choosing a name for their baby). (By contrast a case deciding something like the validity of a trans marriage will have little effect beyond the trans and intersex communities, so a judge would have more freedom at making an unfavorable ruling with a case like that.)

There is a bit of a benefit of changing your name in a rural area if privacy down the road is a concern for you, because if you have to publish your name change it's more likely to remain off the Internet and other easily searchable means if it's published in a small-town newspaper as opposed to a major big-city one.

I actually wrote down that I was changing my name for ethnic purposes because there are many reasons as for me getting my name change rather than just because I'm transgender. Will that have any effect? Well at least there is some benefit for it being changed in a small town. xD
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Zoey

If you'll be appearing in court as your chosen gender, then look your best so that it will sort-of be a "no brainer" that the judge would accept the new name. I looked very cute and feminine and I smiled humbly and was friendly and the judge seemed bemused and sweet, and was happy to change my name.

If you will not be presenting as your chosen gender, then hopefully you will be trying to change your name to a unisex name, like Robin, Jamie, or Pat, so that the judge will not know the reason.
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