It's so wired Inside. I have messy hair by default. I seriously can't get rid of it. I really want it gone sometimes, but you really want it... Couldn't it just be easier if I could give you some of my messiness?

Quote from: Henri on October 07, 2012, 05:10:49 PM

You look great!  Your chest is definitely in the male range.  One thing that might help is to get a tank top with a higher neckline.  Something like this can make you look even more masculine.

http://www.amazon.com/GUESS-Daedalus-Tank-BLACK-SMALL/dp/B008OIT2JK/ref=sr_1_33?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1349764573&sr=1-33

Hello! My name is Tom and I'm newbie here. I'm ftm since last year. I think that I'm look awful like female. I'm 19 years old and haven't started T yet. Could you tell me what I should do to make my body more male?
here is my photos

Tom I wouldn't say you looked female.  There are one or two female traits about you, mainly just the lack of facial hair and the fact that you do have some hips, but other than that you pass perfectly.  I don't really think people take into account things like hips unless they're very observant, I know that I never look at that part of a persons body unless there's a specific reason, all my judgement goes off the face and if I'm really struggling, chest -- and you're perfectly flat in that area.  Actually, when I saw your first photo I immediately thought, "->-bleeped-<-, that's my mate from college!" before looking closer and remembering that Tom is his last name not his first name!  Your last photo looks like a different guy from college as well, so all in all you look pretty male.  I'd put your age as between 16 and 18, as although you've not got facial hair and have a bit of a baby face you look more mature than a young teen.

Tom: i agree with alex and i also think different glasses frames would actually help, perhaps frames that are thicker or just darker in color (not sure if you've tried this or not though) and as for the hips i think the shirt in the last photo really accents your hips, if you wear those types of shirts/shirts with that type of fitting i'd suggest something else that doesn't hug your sides as much. I hope I helped!

Thank you guys for your advices. Really, my face and my hips makes me worry about my pass. I usually wear jeans or trousers bigger on the size, then it is required for me. Than the legs seemed thicker and the body looks more like a male.
Alex I really liked to read your post. I think all of those female traits could dissapeared, when I start tаking a testosteron. And I know one 22 y.o. guy who is biological man and haven't got facial hair yet. I have now my third year at the college and most of people think that I'm going to the high school.
pretty male it is pleasant to me, but my baby face...How can I improve that? I'm fat and worry about it.
ty.to.the.man thanks for the frames of glasses, I think it really could help. This shirt really looks unsuccesfully on me.

I don't really know how you can make your face look older without T, female and younger boy's faces just tend to be rounder than male ones.  Without T I'm not sure what you can do to help, losing weight might help a bit, but it's not guaranteed that you're going to lose weight off your face.  T tends to age people pretty quickly, so if you're planning on starting T soon that shouldn't be a problem for much longer.  You still look a reasonable age though, I look fourteen, and while all of my mates my age have no problem buying filters, rizlas or lighters from a certain shop near us, I have no hope at all.  None of us are actually old enough but they're lucky enough to be full of testosterone while I'm not.

I just knocked up a few bad edits on photoshop showing you with different glasses/stubble.  They're not very good but thought I might as well, you can't achieve the stubble without T but it's something to look forward to I suppose.  The glasses aren't actually as pink as they look, the photo I stole them from had pretty poor lighting.

Tom - plenty of people have the "baby face" problem. At some point you'll get on T and that will most likely not be a problem anymore.

For a lot of people I don't necessarily think it's the shape of the face, it's the lack of facial hair. As Alex and his photoshoping skills show, the fake stubble makes a world of difference.

I've decided to concentrate more on my body lately. I had to give up working out as hard as I was for about 6 months because of a shoulder injury, but I'm finally on the mend from that and hoping to build a bit more muscle. I was wondering if you guys thought my body passes as is in the photo below (not looking for outfit advice here just body shape). Thanks

@tom probably a no or iffy currently but it is mostly skin tone and face fat profile so once you get on T for a while you should def. pass.

@inside from what I can see I would say yes but you have to be a little careful 'cause those mirror shots will be a little flattering (on shoulder-hip ratio) due to the position and angle of the camera!

Quote from: pretty on October 15, 2012, 01:29:10 AM
@tom probably a no or iffy currently but it is mostly skin tone and face fat profile so once you get on T for a while you should def. pass.

@inside from what I can see I would say yes but you have to be a little careful 'cause those mirror shots will be a little flattering (on shoulder-hip ratio) due to the position and angle of the camera!

Thanks. My shoulders actually are wider than my hips without the mirror ratio so I think I'm ok in that department

Quote from: insideontheoutside on October 15, 2012, 11:56:06 PM
Thanks. My shoulders actually are wider than my hips without the mirror ratio so I think I'm ok in that department

I figured lol. I love owl shirts btw!! 

Alex Thanks for the picture, it looks really cool, and only with thinker glasses I can look older. I look unusually with stubble and I prefer a more light version of that but it can explain how can change my appearance. Unfortunately, I'm planning starting T through 2 years, caurse I can't tell that I'm Ftm at the university. I want to make it very much, but I don't have enough courage. Our universiry is very conservative and I'm afraid that people there couldn't understand me.
I also have problems with buying cigarettes - no one can believe that I'm older than 18.
inside you look excellent, I think that your body is almost male
pretty I have just noticed that skin tone is pink

New pics and new hair! I have a stupid smile. Oh well. Still pre-T, but that will probably change after new years. Also, acne is a beeyotch

Quote from: LilRingo on October 16, 2012, 07:27:43 PM
New pics and new hair! I have a stupid smile. Oh well. Still pre-T, but that will probably change after new years. Also, acne is a beeyotch

You look great!  Can't believe you're still pre-T either.

As for acne, that kinda says 'male' to me because most girls around here have so much make-up on it'd be difficult telling them apart from a tangerine let alone spotting any acne

Quote from: Alex000000 on October 16, 2012, 07:30:38 PM
You look great!  Can't believe you're still pre-T either.

Most girls around here have so much make-up on it'd be difficult telling them apart from a tangerine let alone spotting any acne

Amen brother. and thanks

Quote from: LilRingo on October 16, 2012, 07:27:43 PM




New pics and new hair! I have a stupid smile. Oh well. Still pre-T, but that will probably change after new years. Also, acne is a beeyotch

jealous of ur jawline

So, cut my hair recently, started T last Friday, decided it was time for some new pictures. Warning, I am a goof.

So let's start out with a real picture (not me joking around):


Glasses (they're new too):



Now Dancing!





So, in my eyes (and my roommates), I pass, but I'm bias and likely to look into the mirror and see the most lumberjack-y that ever jacked lumber. What do you all think?

Quote from: Prince Sal on October 18, 2012, 09:59:49 AM
So, in my eyes (and my roommates), I pass, but I'm bias and likely to look into the mirror and see the most lumberjack-y that ever jacked lumber. What do you all think?

Pass

Quote from: dalebert on October 18, 2012, 03:22:12 PM
Pass

Thanks, any suggestions on how to pass more? I've been stealth but I still get her'd and she'd by the call center agents when I have to go fix their computers. Maybe it will change when I get more facial hair *fingers crossed*

Prince Sal - Id say you pass