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Started by oZma, November 02, 2012, 01:09:04 AM

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UCBerkeleyPostop

Quote from: oZma on November 02, 2012, 01:09:04 AM
the economy collapses, the dollar plummets,  and estrogen becomes hard to come by.  like say all of us trans girls can't afford hormones... i get worried about an impending economic collapse, a new great depression and well yeah that's about it.



The economy has already collapsed and although it may take years to dig out, it is unlikely that there will be another 2008. The world WAS actually on the brink of TOTAL economic collapse.

But I hear what you are saying. If you can afford it, you might consider stocking up but not that much as these drugs have a shelf life. Not only would you have a guaranteed supply but also an excellent hedge against inflation.

You could also buy options on the dollar against the Euro but that would be a bit severe. Your best guarantee would be a good health insurance package. 
Quote from: aleah on November 03, 2012, 02:03:08 AM





But governments are dangerous and unpredictable.

Actually most stable governments---and that would include the great majority of governments including most developing  nations-- are neither dangerous nor unpredictable. How many of us have freely traveled to, for instance, Thailand without giving it a second thought?
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UCBerkeleyPostop

Quote from: Jamie D on November 03, 2012, 05:33:37 AM
That particular clip came from a film made in 1940 ... At the height of the neo-socialist New Dealers.

Quote from: tekla on November 03, 2012, 05:35:45 AM
Pretty obvious who really tries to think, and who are just clowns trying to get into the circus.

You all are funny!

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tekla

Nah, what's funny there Golden Bear is that in the name of being open, accepting and tolerant we're are forced to put up with people who are none of those things, and actively work to eliminate them.  We are being forced to give them a seat at the table when we know that all they want to do is thrown the spaghetti on the floor and rub cake in their hair.  And we're supposed to pretend that it's all OK.

Let us - just for a moment - consider the following...
That particular clip came from a film made in 1940 ... At the height of the neo-socialist New Dealers.

So, in a discussion about some potentially dangerous social trends from out of nowhere comes... the 1940s?  Neo-socialism?  What?  The 1940s?  Really?  That's germane to the conversation how?  Other than to name call - and be redundant at that .  New Deal and neo-socialist are virtually interchangeable, with the first being a specific set of policies put into place after the rich guys (see how familiar this sounds) crashed the economy in a mad race for more money and left some other guys to clean up the mess and then spent 70 years hating on them for actually doing it.

Look (OK, aside from the historical inaccuracy, the 'height of the neo-socialist New Dealers' was the 1930s, by the 40's the whole  'war thing' was distracting everyone - and you know FDR and the neo-socialist New Dealers saved the United States of American and Capitalism at the same time and the Right has never forgiven them for that )...

Look ... here we are in 2012, looking to a not so distant future, and the reference we're given is to events that were some 70 years in the past so that a nice little 5 Minute Hate could be had.

Now, if we were there in the 1940s.  Immersed in a horror far beyond anything that most of us can imagine.  Millions of people were dying horrible deaths all over the world.  Every able bodied young man had been pressed into military service.  Women - both mothers and young women - had left home and hearth, put on overalls, picked up a blow-torch or a spot-welder, or rivet gun and were running the greatest industrial production line the world had ever seen.  Every family was touched, and had lost someone.  Almost every house had a blue star in the window, and every block - and I mean EVERY BLOCK right down to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave in Washington D.C. - had at least one house with a gold star in the window.

So, into this conversation we're having there in the 1940s about the current state of affairs and the future - well out pops Gramps who starts to praddle on about how Jefferson Davis didn't support Lee enough and lost the Civil War and how Grant was a war criminal and how Gettysburg was a bad strategic move...

Far from allowing Gramps to shape the conversation any further they would escort him back upstairs, give him his meds, put him to bed and 'lock the door this time, damn it.'

Time to realize that not only was the good Dr. Azamov right about people running around thinking that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge' but that needs to be stopped before it really changes into a nationwide movement where their ignorance actually becomes better than our knowledge because it's managed to seize the power.

That is a huge threat to all of us, one the internet has put into hyper-drive.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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UCBerkeleyPostop

The lamestream corporate media play into their hands, especially CNN who think that presenting both sides of an issue means... for instance, if climate change is being discussed, they have to have a climate change denier to counter the real scientist. "Your ignorance is just as good as my knowledge," indeed!

QuoteSo, into this conversation we're having there in the 1940s about the current state of affairs and the future - well out pops Gramps who starts to praddle on about how Jefferson Davis didn't support Lee enough and lost the Civil War and how Grant was a war criminal and how Gettysburg was a bad strategic move...

Actually, it was not Gettysburg, it was Pickett's Charge...don't you read Faulkner?
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Ms. OBrien CVT

I will just wait, til Canada and the UK retake the US.  Long Live the Queen.

  
It does not take courage or bravery to change your gender.  It takes fear of living one more day in the wrong one.~me
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UCBerkeleyPostop

Quote from: Ms. OBrien on November 03, 2012, 11:28:38 PM
I will just wait, til Canada and the UK retake the US.  Long Live the Queen.

I hope you are willing to wait...until Hell freezes over. China will take over before the Brits and Canucks do.
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Brooke777

Quote from: UCBerkeleyPostop on November 03, 2012, 11:33:54 PM
I hope you are willing to wait...until Hell freezes over. China will take over before the Brits and Canucks do.

Ms. OBrien won't have to wait long

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Brooke777

Quote from: TessaM on November 04, 2012, 10:50:05 AM
Were gona get you 'mericans with our hockey sticks, maple syrup, and artery clogging poutine. Watch out!!!

I love real maple syrup! ;D
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Ave

Quote from: UCBerkeleyPostop on November 03, 2012, 11:33:54 PM
I hope you are willing to wait...until Hell freezes over. China will take over before the Brits and Canucks do.


china taking over?

before or after the onset of nuclear winter? :angel:
I can see me
I can see you
Are you me?
Or am I you?
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Tristan

good luck taking american. no one does real war quite like us. we will give you guys a brooklyn beating grrrrrrr..... :police:
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Natkat

Quote from: oZma on November 02, 2012, 01:09:04 AM
the economy collapses, the dollar plummets,  and estrogen becomes hard to come by.  like say all of us trans girls can't afford hormones... i get worried about an impending economic collapse, a new great depression and well yeah that's about it.

has anyone else thought about this? fiat currency, imaginary money... and no access to hormones.  we all (who haven't had an orchi or srs) turn back into masculine creatures.

am i just being paranoid?  not trusting our government and its spending?

or maybe our economy collapses but we have this obamacare to take care of us?

i'm not trying to get into a political conversation about left vs. right because i'm libertarian and want no arguments about romney vs obama.  i just get scared that maybe at some point i don't have access to hormones anymore.  what would happen?  shucks, i sound paranoid...

this is whats happening in my area for the moment, and yes its FREAKING scary and paranoia, I cant explain how trapt I feel.

what would happent would be that people would try plan B and try for every posible way to get it done by other ways,
they would gather around in groups for suport or they would move away..

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