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Started by oZma, November 13, 2012, 12:23:42 AM

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MaidofOrleans

oZma my earliest sexual fantasies were as a woman with a man. I could never get off on anything else. Being a man with a man grosses me out. One of the reasons I started transition was because I had a straight woman's sexual attractions and could never be happy in a relationship as a man with a man or woman.

There are men out there for us, I know because I hear about them all the time. I think you are just being overly negative towards yourself and your situation.
"For transpeople, using the right pronoun is NOT simply a 'political correctness' issue. It's core to the entire struggle transpeople go through. Using the wrong pronoun means 'I don't recognize you as who you are.' It means 'I think you're confused, delusional, or mentally I'll.'. It means 'you're not important enough for me to acknowledge your struggle.'"
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MaidofOrleans

It's hard not to analyze you too much, your mind bounces around so much.

You seem to be thinking might SRS cure your negative feelings and self hatred. It won't.

I'm getting SRS because i'm female and females have a vagina.
"For transpeople, using the right pronoun is NOT simply a 'political correctness' issue. It's core to the entire struggle transpeople go through. Using the wrong pronoun means 'I don't recognize you as who you are.' It means 'I think you're confused, delusional, or mentally I'll.'. It means 'you're not important enough for me to acknowledge your struggle.'"
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Ave

Quote from: MaidofOrleans on November 13, 2012, 08:55:10 PM
oZma my earliest sexual fantasies were as a woman with a man. I could never get off on anything else. Being a man with a man grosses me out. One of the reasons I started transition was because I had a straight woman's sexual attractions and could never be happy in a relationship as a man with a man or woman.

There are men out there for us, I know because I hear about them all the time. I think you are just being overly negative towards yourself and your situation.

I know  quite a few gay cis men who if you get them drunk enough will fess up to sometimes fantasizing of having sex as a female with a man.

Doesn't really mean anything.
I though female was biologically speaking and woman was when speaking of gender? In which case I know quite a few biological males with vaginas :P
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oZma

Quote from: charlie on November 13, 2012, 10:49:33 PM
Lol after all that essay writing!

i love it! sooo funny you quoted me before i edited it! haha

but what you write is exactly what i want us to do... just write, see what comes out, translate those thoughts in your head to words! 

by no means do i marginalize those who don't have issues, i just merely don't understand and i stated that :)





and note... i don't feel like SRS will solve my problems.  i'm just afraid that i'm overlooking something.  i'm afraid there is something right under my nose.  i guess i'm looking for stories that i can relate with?

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MaidofOrleans

Quote from: Ave on November 13, 2012, 10:54:13 PM
I know  quite a few gay cis men who if you get them drunk enough will fess up to sometimes fantasizing of having sex as a female with a man.

Doesn't really mean anything.
I though female was biologically speaking and woman was when speaking of gender? In which case I know quite a few biological males with vaginas :P

Everyone has their fantasies, quirky or otherwise. However this was my orientation. Would a straight cis female not normally fantasize about being a woman with a man?
"For transpeople, using the right pronoun is NOT simply a 'political correctness' issue. It's core to the entire struggle transpeople go through. Using the wrong pronoun means 'I don't recognize you as who you are.' It means 'I think you're confused, delusional, or mentally I'll.'. It means 'you're not important enough for me to acknowledge your struggle.'"
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Ave

Quote from: MaidofOrleans on November 13, 2012, 11:13:14 PM
Everyone has their fantasies, quirky or otherwise. However this was my orientation. Would a straight cis female not normally fantasize about being a woman with a man?

sure thing :)

I really want to read 50 shades of grey, wonder if it's worth it?
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MaidofOrleans

Quote from: Ave on November 13, 2012, 11:21:02 PM
sure thing :)

I really want to read 50 shades of grey, wonder if it's worth it?

I don't know, I mostly read military sci-fi/fantasy.
"For transpeople, using the right pronoun is NOT simply a 'political correctness' issue. It's core to the entire struggle transpeople go through. Using the wrong pronoun means 'I don't recognize you as who you are.' It means 'I think you're confused, delusional, or mentally I'll.'. It means 'you're not important enough for me to acknowledge your struggle.'"
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Ave

Quote from: MaidofOrleans on November 13, 2012, 11:27:17 PM
I don't know, I mostly read military sci-fi/fantasy.

cool, can you recommend any books/series? I'm on the market for some good ones, regardless of genre.
I can see me
I can see you
Are you me?
Or am I you?
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MaidofOrleans

Quote from: Ave on November 13, 2012, 11:31:19 PM
cool, can you recommend any books/series? I'm on the market for some good ones, regardless of genre.

Gaunts Ghosts
"For transpeople, using the right pronoun is NOT simply a 'political correctness' issue. It's core to the entire struggle transpeople go through. Using the wrong pronoun means 'I don't recognize you as who you are.' It means 'I think you're confused, delusional, or mentally I'll.'. It means 'you're not important enough for me to acknowledge your struggle.'"
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Alyx Vox

Your sexual preferences have nothing to do with your gender identity.
There are plenty asexual transsexuals out there. Just saying.
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Beverly

Quote from: MaidofOrleans on November 13, 2012, 11:27:17 PM
I don't know, I mostly read military sci-fi/fantasy.

Patrick O'Brian's "Aubery & Maturin" series (aka Master & Commander). Twenty books with the language and action authentic to the late 18th / early 19th Century. There are twenty books in the series and many of the naval actions are based on actual actions documented in Royal Navy ships' logs. O'Brian had access to the Navy Archives at the National Maritime Museum in London.


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MaidofOrleans

Quote from: Alyx Vox on November 14, 2012, 03:13:47 AM
Your sexual preferences have nothing to do with your gender identity.
There are plenty asexual transsexuals out there. Just saying.

Ok, you all are reading it wrong. Let me help you out.

Quote from: MaidofOrleans on November 13, 2012, 08:55:10 PM
oZma my earliest sexual fantasies were as a woman with a man. I could never get off on anything else. Being a man with a man grosses me out. One of the reasons I started transition was because I had a straight woman's sexual attractions and could never be happy in a relationship as a man with a man or woman.

There are men out there for us, I know because I hear about them all the time. I think you are just being overly negative towards yourself and your situation.

Stop reading the "with" part and read the "as" part.
"For transpeople, using the right pronoun is NOT simply a 'political correctness' issue. It's core to the entire struggle transpeople go through. Using the wrong pronoun means 'I don't recognize you as who you are.' It means 'I think you're confused, delusional, or mentally I'll.'. It means 'you're not important enough for me to acknowledge your struggle.'"
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Alyx Vox

Quote from: MaidofOrleans on November 14, 2012, 09:31:35 AM
Ok, you all are reading it wrong. Let me help you out.

Stop reading the "with" part and read the "as" part.

Hmm, perhaps you should read my post more closely as well?
That's exactly my point. Besides, having sex as a woman (trans-woman too)
with a man is a heterosexual practice. All she had to say was "I'm a straight woman",
here "woman" being her gender identity and "straight" being her sexual preference.
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aprilrain

Quote from: Alyx Vox on November 14, 2012, 03:13:47 AM
Your sexual preferences have nothing to do with your gender identity.
There are plenty asexual transsexuals out there. Just saying.

this is true....Kinda.

If ones sexual orientation is hetero, female identified, then one could never be happy or fulfilled as a male having sex with anyone. In this sense our sexual orientation is intimately tied to our gender identity. 
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MaidofOrleans

Quote from: aprilrain on November 15, 2012, 08:21:18 AM
this is true....Kinda.

If ones sexual orientation is hetero, female identified, then one could never be happy or fulfilled as a male having sex with anyone. In this sense our sexual orientation is intimately tied to our gender identity.

Thank you
"For transpeople, using the right pronoun is NOT simply a 'political correctness' issue. It's core to the entire struggle transpeople go through. Using the wrong pronoun means 'I don't recognize you as who you are.' It means 'I think you're confused, delusional, or mentally I'll.'. It means 'you're not important enough for me to acknowledge your struggle.'"
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Alyx Vox

Quote from: aprilrain on November 15, 2012, 08:21:18 AM
this is true....Kinda.

If ones sexual orientation is hetero, female identified, then one could never be happy or fulfilled as a male having sex with anyone. In this sense our sexual orientation is intimately tied to our gender identity.

I guess, but sexual orientation is not all there is to transsexualism.
As I already said it, in my case I just don't feel at home in the body
I have now. I also want to express myself as a woman. Even if I were
the last person on Earth I would still transition if it were somehow possible.
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monica.soto

Okay, here's my experience.

I haven't transitioned and as of now, don't plan on transitioning. I'm in my late 30s.

It takes a lot of mental effort to keep the dysphoria under control, it's very tiring and it interferes with most aspects in your life.

I am happy (mostly), I identify as a heterosexual, but am happily married, monogamous  and mostly satisfied in my sexual life. It will depend on your partner and who you are though.

Sometimes I get sad thinking of what might have been and role playing where I would be in my life had I decided to transition.

If you're as far ahead where you are in your transition process and still doubtful of the surgery, then, maybe there“s no harm in waiting it out for a few years (if you can mentally handle this, there might be another sort of innovative procedure for transgendered people in the future).

Anyhow, I've said it once and I'll say it again, there is no one true path or solution on how to live your life. You do what must be done under the circumstances you're living,
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aprilrain

Quote from: Alyx Vox on November 15, 2012, 11:28:42 AM
I guess, but sexual orientation is not all there is to transsexualism.
As I already said it, in my case I just don't feel at home in the body
I have now. I also want to express myself as a woman. Even if I were
the last person on Earth I would still transition if it were somehow possible.

True true, no arguments here.

For me my sexual orientation is intimately tied to my gender ID however if i never had sex again : O  I'd still be a woman.
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MaidofOrleans

Quote from: Alyx Vox on November 15, 2012, 11:28:42 AM
I guess, but sexual orientation is not all there is to transsexualism.
As I already said it, in my case I just don't feel at home in the body
I have now. I also want to express myself as a woman. Even if I were
the last person on Earth I would still transition if it were somehow possible.

No one said that it was...
"For transpeople, using the right pronoun is NOT simply a 'political correctness' issue. It's core to the entire struggle transpeople go through. Using the wrong pronoun means 'I don't recognize you as who you are.' It means 'I think you're confused, delusional, or mentally I'll.'. It means 'you're not important enough for me to acknowledge your struggle.'"
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