Does anyone know anything about the new silicone packers called Viper and Python? Bullet Briefs & TSW Enterprises (aka FTM Depot?) just unveiled them a couple days ago, I think. Both FTMD and Tranzwear sell them, as far as I know. They're supposed to be custom made 100% "platinum" silicone, heat resistant, and able to be used to pack with harnesses, packing underwear, OR strong medical adhesives (not sold on those sites). I'm not affiliated with either company, but I still don't think I'm allowed to post the links to the packer pages? They're on the websites under the packer categories (or specifically Silicone Packers on FTMD), so just google the company names if you don't know them. Anyway, I'll summarize some info from the websites and then I'd like to know what your opinions are on them.

*Btw, both are available in four colors: flesh pink, caucasian, tan, and chocolate.*

The Viper
It has a thick shaft over a waveform ball pack that is "smaller"(?) but thicker than the Python's. It has visible veins, but not as obvious as the Python's either.
Dimensions:
-Shaft length: 5 inches
-Shaft circumference: 4.75 inches
-Ball pack width: 2.75 inches
-Base length: 4.25 inches
Weight: 7.8 oz

The Python
This one is a little smaller overall and has a waveform ball pack with one testicle bigger than the other. The veins are more prominent and it lies flatter on ball pack so it doesn't stick out quite as much.
Dimensions:
-Shaft length: 4.5 inches
-Shaft circumference: 4.25 inches
-Ball pack width: 2.5 inches
-Base length: 4.25 inches
Weight: 7.6 oz

They're comparable in both size and weight to the GV/Sailor packer, but these have more detailing and are made of better material at a slightly cheaper price (at $50) than the Mr. Right. They take 5 days for the molding process (that's the custom order design, I guess). Personally, I ordered the Python in 'flesh pink' from Tranzwear and I'm waiting for it to be made and shipped along with a harness that came in the combo. I'll give my first impression once I get it and then a review later on. The Viper seems to have sold out already for the moment, but I haven't really heard talk of either packer yet. If anyone checks them out, I'd like to know your thoughts and see who else is interested in them?

Whoa this is awesome. We needed more packer options. They look good, I will probably buy one of the two and if I do I will certainly review.

When someone finds a way to add even the most basic shading to their packer product, they will own the market.  I know it's an expensive process in terms of materials and labor, but even at more than double the price of these, like $100, there'd be little competition.

I like them; I just wish they had a bit more color.

Wow...I actually think they look terrible.  The balls are completely flat on the back, and there is almost no skin detail.  Color looks a bit off as well.  Not impressed.

I don't think the color looks too good either. Quite a bit like Mr. Limpy etc. But real shading would bring them up more than $100 I think. I think the Basic RM packers are better. The color, imo, is pretty good for being one shade.
OTOH, these are a bit cheaper and you get them faster. Nice to have a cheaper alternative that is silicon and still a little realistic looking.

--Jay J

I'd like to hear if anyone tries it with adhesive. It doesn't really look all that nice to me, but i REALLY want a packer that isnt like $500 dollars that i can adhere to my body.

Also, the RM basic packer doesnt look like it's all one color when you see it in person. I actually don't think it is.

Quote from: mangoslayer on October 27, 2012, 06:15:59 PM
I'd like to hear if anyone tries it with adhesive. It doesn't really look all that nice to me, but i REALLY want a packer that isnt like $500 dollars that i can adhere to my body.

Also, the RM basic packer doesnt look like it's all one color when you see it in person. I actually don't think it is.

I have the RM basic packer and am very happy with it (barring a few things). It does look better than this one. Not sure I think there is more than one color though. It is pretty good and blends in with my the inside of my arm (meaning it is a little light).
Have you looked into Likereal?  I think they are better (not their STP which is totally stupid--my understanding is that you can connect up with another STP though.)

--Jay J

I have the caucasian one and it definitely looks like theres two shades, like a pink and a light tan. Its especially noticable on the flat part. Maybe mine is newer than yours? idk why ours would be different but its possible.

And once I have the funds, I would like to buy a likereal packer, i just dont have that kind of money to blow yet.

Your's probably is newer than mine. I wonder if it is a difference in the pouring process or something. Whatever it sounds kind of neat. Still I like it, and can't see anything at the packer price level that I would like as well.


--Jay J

with shipping included it comes to about 50% cheaper than the RM basic packer.. a decent quality tradeoff for the price I'd say, just glad more cheap silicone packers are coming out  The colours don't look bad at all, in fact at 6 options, it looks like better choices than RM. Just waiting for youtube reviews now..

As the new product develops, it's worth giving these a 2nd look. There are now 6 colors available and the realistic skin feel and the detail on the shaft is far beter than any other mass produced  packer out there. All the balls are now 3d as well. He'll be coming out with a dildo and PacknPlay version next.

Just thought I'd add that they're selling ones with defects on FTM depot at the moment for around $10 if people are interested.  I think that works out cheaper than a Mr Limpy.  Might be useful for people who aren't sure whether or not to pay full price.

I would get one if it wasn't for my fear of something getting stopped by customs and having to pick it up.  Wasn't so bad before but now I have no transport my parents would have to go and get it...

Just ordered one of the defect ones, I'll tell you guys about it when i get it

My defect packer just came in. Im not positive which one it is, ithink it's the python. I'm not totally sure what makes it a defect actually, it looks just like the normal ones on the site. I'll write more about it later. I might even make a video comparing all the packers i have.

Mine just arrived too. Haven't packed with it, as it just got here. I ordered a Viper. It is pretty big-- maybe 5 inches or so and, well, ugly.   Not sure if I will have a boner with it. The balls are not exactly 3-d as it is flat on the back. Maybe that is the defect, as I don't see too much else, except for several little tears in the back. It looks like it was slightly pulled out of the mold wrong. Not a huge deal.

The detail is quite nice-- lots of veins and detail down the back. Mild smell, I don't think it would bother me. Does NOT feel like silicon. Don't know if this is a blend, but feels much more like cyberskin and is about the squishiness of Mr. Limpy. It is sticky and would need powder.
Otherwise has a nice feel.

Not a RM basic packer for sure.

--Jay J

Sorry I haven't replied sooner! I got my Python in the mail and like it, but I had to ask a lot of questions of the seller and manufacturer between then and now. It turns out that the packers are made of silicone gel, not a more solid state silicone mold like how I assume the Mr. Right is made (never had one of those so I can't say exactly). I think the silicone gel material feels pretty good personally, not too hard or soft (definitely better than the Limpy), but then again I don't have experience with how cis dicks feel. The thing that really concerned me was how there are little holes/bubbles all over the surface of the packer. I thought mine was defective, but it turns out that they're made to be 'aerated' or something so that they don't get all sweaty dirty. This means that they ARE porous, which was a real disappointment for me with a 'pure' silicone packer. As such, these packers definitely need to be washed frequently but gently, air-dried, and then dusted/powdered. Also, the veins on the Python are a little too defined for my tastes, but I did kind of opt for that. The Viper's vein detailing isn't as prominent though.

I ended up buying 3 more from the 'misfire' promotion anyway though because they were cheap, haha. I got another Python (flesh pink) and two Vipers (caucasian and pink brown). The biggest defects I can see from them is the bad coloring (the pigment didn't take right) and some peeling. But otherwise they're fine and they were a bargain so now I have spares and don't have to worry so much about just having one. I went out packing with the Python once or twice and still have to get used to it - I'm not sure if it's the harness or not, but I have to adjust it to find the balance between not looking like I have a boner as well as being able to walk normally without the balls feeling too bulky between my legs (TMI?). I've managed to make it work in skinny jeans (but not like skin-tight) already, and that was with a harness.

I also got a Masho (hard version) today and my first impressions of that are great but I haven't worn it out yet. I'll write back in more detail about everything once I have more experience to go on. But by the way, there's now an option to have somewhat 3D balls on the Python and Viper, and they'll be releasing pack and play versions of them soon.

The coloring on mine looks ok. (Caucasian btw). Not as bad as I thought. Certainly much better than Mr. Limpy and friends. (I think the defects are kind of random here-- because the defect on this one is on the underside of the shaft, I have some peeling on mine too). I agree re: prominent veins and so on. That's what I mean by ugly I guess. But the feel and detail is nice. I think this is a Viper but I was actually very confused by the time I ordered-- which is which? The silicon foam explains the feel, as it isn't as solid feeling as the RM. Also explains stickiness. But then didn't cost $100.

I'm used to the balls between the legs thing. Haven't packed with it though. BTW, there is a sort of arch as the shaft comes out from the balls. It's a design thing and not a defect.

--Jay J

I only really bought it out of the hope that I could adhere it to my body. Now, i haven't actually tried it, but it just doesn't seem possible. Too heavy and the tab isn't big enough. I haven't worn mine other than to try it on becuase i have and RM basic packer which is damn near perfect. I don't like how prominent the veins are. Also (maybe this is the defect in mine) it only had one ball on the back. i think when they made mine they didn't have making the balls down yet.
I am looking forward to seeing how their pack and play ones work out.