Quote from: UCBerkeleyPostop on November 18, 2012, 04:29:51 PM
Why is it some here cannot recognize obvious satire?

I tend to recognize satire that is skillfully done. Unfortunately, satire is a fairly difficult form, and one emoticon does not necessarily clarify a writer's intent.

There is no ToS rule about bashing schools, but Stanford does have a pretty decent rep and some awards to back it up. Stanford folks have had their share of Nobels as well as other awards, and calling the school unaccredited is rather below the belt, don't you think?

You might think about how your remarks come across to others. I mean, if I wanted to be snide, I could easily start comparing Cal with another school (such as, say, Harvard) whose people have produced more Nobel laureates, or I could bring in Caltech, which is a tiny school with a very disproportionately high percentage of Nobel winners. If I were actually affiliated with one of those schools (I'm not), people would probably think I was trying to pump myself up by attempting to make Cal look less significant than it really is.

Cal is a great school, and you are a student there. Why not just leave it at that?

Quote from: Arch on November 18, 2012, 09:21:18 PM
I tend to recognize satire that is skillfully done. Unfortunately, satire is a fairly difficult form, and one emoticon does not necessarily clarify a writer's intent.

There is no ToS rule about bashing schools, but Stanford does have a pretty decent rep and some awards to back it up. Stanford folks have had their share of Nobels as well as other awards, and calling the school unaccredited is rather below the belt, don't you think?

You might think about how your remarks come across to others. I mean, if I wanted to be snide, I could easily start comparing Cal with another school (such as, say, Harvard) whose people have produced more Nobel laureates, or I could bring in Caltech, which is a tiny school with a very disproportionately high percentage of Nobel winners. If I were actually affiliated with one of those schools (I'm not), people would probably think I was trying to pump myself up by attempting to make Cal look less significant than it really is.

Cal is a great school, and you are a student there. Why not just leave it at that?

That is a very tortured response for a little bit of $tanfurd bashing. And if you want to engage in a debate about Cal against any University on the planet. Bring it on. Of course, since it does not violate TOS why don't you let me have my fun. And leave it at that.

And BTW "I tend to recognize satire that is skillfully done." is clearly an ad hominem attack directed to me.

Here is a link to the most unbelievable, the most incredible, the most exciting play in the history of college football.




Anyway, see you all in a few weeks after finals. Again, unlike $tanfurd Junior College, I need to earn my grades.

More like an amused response, but see how easily people can be misconstrued in print?

Nice deflection, by the way. But I should point out that your ad hominem attack was no such thing; it was a critique of one particular post. Good try, though.

Same thing that I always want to relate to Rush Limbaugh and the Republicans - in order for something to be a joke, it kinda has to be funny first.  If no one is getting the joke, it could be you're mistaken about it being humor. 

And where was the Manhattan Project developed? If it were not for us Bears, we might all be speaking Russian...or dead!

Interestingly enough the theoretical work was mostly done at Princeton (the parts that had not already been done in Europe, in advance of the war itself, the experimental work at U of Chicago, what Cal did was supply the staff for the construction segment at Los Alamos (one of 12 sites of the project), so, no, the Manhattan Project was not developed at Cal.  And it's also quite a reach for anyone to think that had we not had atomic weapons we'd all be speaking Russian.  Russia never had any plans to invade and/or conquer the US - Red Dawn movies not withstanding.

Quote from: tekla on November 18, 2012, 10:26:06 PM
Red Dawn movies not withstanding.

How dare you slam that great documentary!

If it weren't for the great vision of the ever-lovin' U.S. guvmint, there wouldn't have been a Manhattan Project at all. Still, there's plenty of credit to go around...the scientific talent came from everywhere, after all. But wasn't J. Robert a Cal man? Fermi I don't remember, but of course, he was Italian until he became a U.S. citizen.

Oops, way off topic.

I went to one of the Summits a little while back but didn't find it particularly useful. I'm not an activist type, and I wasn't interested in networking. But I wanted to experience it once, anyway.

Actually a lot of the heavy lifting for that was done at Oak Ridge, which due to travel stuff was staffed with lots of Princeton, Chicago and Harvard types, Cal staffed Los Alamos, because it had the best physics department in the West.  They staffed Hanford too, but no one ever talks about that.  By the end the Project had over 120,000K people working on it, kinda hard to give credit to just one guy, who is primarily remembered for the security problems after the war.

Quote from: UCBerkeleyPostop on November 18, 2012, 09:32:28 PM
That is a very tortured response for a little bit of $tanfurd bashing. And if you want to engage in a debate about Cal against any University on the planet. Bring it on. Of course, since it does not violate TOS why don't you let me have my fun. And leave it at that.

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Anyway, see you all in a few weeks after finals. Again, unlike $tanfurd Junior College, I need to earn my grades.

Rule 10

10. Bashing or flaming of any individuals or groups is not acceptable behavior on this web site and will not be tolerated in the slightest for any reason.  This includes but is not limited to:

Stanford could be considered a group, thus your "satirical" post is in violation of TOS. Topic locked.

Good luck with your finals!