I know there is already a couple topics on this, however I'm looking for more links.

I have seen the Peecock Products. After reading all of the reviews on here I have decided that would not be a good one.

So I was wondering if everyone would just post what they would suggest. Something that has the three good features with good reviews: pack, play, and pee to stand.

***I am also looking for good binders. I am borrowing a friends but need my own. I liked the one on Peecock Products so that you can wear tank tops, but what do all of you use? Links please. I also do prefer full length binders.  http://www.peecockproducts.com/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=16***

Other than the Peecock, Ultimate Prosthetic and Tyron-3 there are no prosthesis that are can be used for both sex and STPing.  In my opinion none of them are brilliant, and I would rather get something which did one or two functions well, than all three mediocre, but that would be my personal preference.

You've already ruled out the Peecock -- I'm assuming you've seen the gen2 Peecock and not just going off the original Peecock there.  The gen2 does look slightly more realistic, and is supposed to work better for urinating, but I suppose it's going to be too early for good reviews to be coming out.

The Ultimate Prosthetic is a new product, and there was some skepticism about whether or not the guy making them was genuine or not.  At least one person has now got their Ultimate Prosthetic, but the same as the gen2 Peecock, it's too new for good reviews.  The whole drama of whether or not people were actually going to receive their prosthesis is here: https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,124949.260.html.  I suppose it comes down to your thoughts on the guy, and whether it's a risk you're willing to take with your money.  His site is here:http://theultimateprosthetic.com/products.html

And as for the Tyron-3... no one knows anyone who actually has one.  It costs a hideous amount, and no one has wanted to take the risk of it turning out to be awful. Actually from looking at his website now it doesn't appear to have been finished yet... hmm... I thought it supposedly was?  The sites here http://www.tyron2.net/features.en

There's LikeReal as well, but they don't do play with their prosthetics, and I think they've gotten a few mixed reviews.  A whole load of different prothetics and packers are listed in this sticky: https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,129982.0.html  Sadly none of them are really what you're after.

And for binders, I've not heard anything good about the Peacock ones, but I can't remember for definite hearing anything bad.  I've got a feeling that I have but I'm not sure.  Most people stick to Underworks (http://ftm.underworks.com/) usually style 977 for full length.  It doesn't pass as a tank top though.  Plenty of reviews of that around.

Smaller chested guys get on well with LesLoveBoat, but I don't think the same is for larger chested people.  T-kingdom is definitely a no for larger guys.  LesLoveBoat's full length page: http://www.lesloveboat.com/shop/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=long+binder&x=0&y=0 T-Kingdom: http://www.t-kingdom.com/products.htm

There are also some new full length binders created by Dr. Garramone, found here: http://www.mansculpture.com/.  There's a review of them on this thread: https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,128028.0.html and apparently these would pass well as a tank top.

Hope some of this helps you in your searches.

Tyron 3 doesn't exist at all. There is a webpage. Ultimate Prosthetic looks promising. The guy knows nothing about running a business.

As for the binders. I agree that loveboat is not for larger bodies. As for mansculpture.com should be aware that these also compress the stomach (not as much as the chest, but should know this going in). They're a new product with not a lot of reviews.

--Jay J