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Affording Top surgery

Started by JohnAlex, November 23, 2012, 10:34:40 PM

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JohnAlex

I'm really looking into Top surgery now, but there comes that big issue of how to afford it. 

What are some things you guys have done to pay for it?  Are there loan options for surgery?

Somehow I completely suck at saving up my money, but I do great with making payments.  and currently I make about $500 a month.

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Arch

Frankly, I feel that if you can manage payments, then you should be able to save instead.
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DriftingCrow

Maybe try to save enough to open something like a CD or other account that will penalize you if you withdraw money but still allow you to deposit money into it monthly. I opened a CD a few years back, and I think the minimum amount to open one was $1,000-it probably depends on the bank and the interest rate you want. Then, just set up a "payment plan" for yourself and try to stick with it until you have enough.
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wheat thins are delicious

Quote from: Arch on November 23, 2012, 10:47:48 PM
Frankly, I feel that if you can manage payments, then you should be able to save instead.

This.  I have my savings account and checking account both connected to each other and they are online.  I get my paychecks direct deposited and I just transfer money from my checking to my savings.  I have a rule for myself that I only transfer money from checking to savings, but never the other way (except in case of emergency).


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Simon

I understand, I keep my bills paid but in the past it has been hard to save what was left over.

I've resolved within myself that the bigger picture means more to me than any frivolous purchase I could use it for now.

It is all about priorities.

My girlfriend and I have finally gotten serious about saving for my top surgery. No more eating out, a monthly food budget of $250, buying items we regularly use in bulk, not going to movies, etc (you get the idea..sacrifices).

We've decided against putting the money into an account with limited or no access. If an emergency occurs as a last resort that money will be there if some needs to be used and I've agreed not to get irate if that occurs.

Just plan on what you need to save and set up a timeline.
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Icarus389

Due to the fact that you only make 500 a month, I can get how it can be hard to cut costs and save up for top surgery. If you have bills, rent, and no state assistance with food, then that pretty much means you are already going without any add-on's.

You could throw a top surgery benefit party/ potluck. I had friends that got a keg, charged 5 bucks for a cup for the night, took donated liquor, sold shots, and took private donations in a coffee can. I think they raised over 2,000 with that party (mainly from the coffee can idea. People feel better giving larger amount when they don't have to receive awkward gratitude). Another FTM that I know is a hair dresser and he did an event where he cut his friends hair for donations. If you have an area of specialty, then you could ask your friends to pitch in while still providing something.

I've been researching Dr. Garramone specifically and found that he accepts carecredit cards for most of the surgery cost, so that's going to be one of my main sources of paying for it in the next few years. If you have decent credit and your surgeon accepts it, you should apply. That may speed things along.

I hope you find something that works for you  :)
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Zerro

I took a job with no health insurance/benefits beyond a few perks. Basically, I get paid higher than minimum wage, but I don't have health insurance(I apparently have some coverage through my dad until I'm twenty four or five, but he won't send me the information I need to use it). I bought bulk foods like rice and would sometimes buy fruits and vegetables that were on sale and would make meals that could last a long time. Before I had my job, I also sold things that other people liked and wanted. There were some bits of gold jewelry people had given me a long time ago, so I sold them to be melted down and made about $1800 USD that way. I sold luxury items, like an iPod, an Xbox 360, and any games that went with it. I used to play the guitar, but I sold mine for a little scrap cash.

For testosterone and other transition-related needs, I became a patient at a low-income clinic. The medication is cheaper there, and so were the appointments.

To save money on my bills, I stopped using heating/air conditioning and insulated my home with some DIY tricks I learned from others. It cut back on costs significantly and allowed me to put that money aside for surgery.

I also paid the rent and bills on time, too. It prevents late-fees and can be very beneficial in the long run. I watched my pay cycle like a hawk and would always put a certain percentage into my savings account.

Though I'd allow myself the occasional movie or game if I met my monthly goal, I pretty much refused to spend money on something if it wasn't a strict need. A new binder? Well, I needed a binder, but I ended up trading my stretched out one with a bigger guy who wanted something more comfortable. A packer? I didn't need to buy a fancy packer while saving for surgery, so I made one. Clothes? No, no, and no. I wanted new work clothes and shoes, but instead put in a little effort to clean the ones I had up and deal with them until my surgery date. And if I needed underwear or socks, I'd just get a pack of cheap stuff.

Social activities that would cost money were also not allowed. Like I said, I would sometimes see a movie if I had met my financial goal for the month, but I would normally just meet friends at my place or elsewhere and we'd watch a movie or whatever.

Since I don't have a car, I carpool to work. I give a little bit of gas money to the coworker I go with, but that's a necessity and only fair since we don't have public transport in my area.

Without a job it took me almost three to four years to get up to $2000 USD, but I was too young to have surgery with Garramone anyway and was proud that I saved that much. After I got my job, it took four months to raise the cost of his surgery at the time($5900). I booked it as soon as I was certain it would be okay to put that money down. And then it took about two months to raise the money I would need for travel expenses and as a cushion for after surgery.

If you are incredibly disciplined, you can save for surgery. I considered carecredit, but after hearing some reviews from people that used it, I decided not to.

Look at your situation - is there anything about it you can change to help save money? Are there things in your life that you can live without? Think on it. Write up some plans and make financial goals. They don't have to be huge goals, just significant enough to make you feel more confident in saving once you meet them.

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DriftingCrow

Quote from: Zerro on November 24, 2012, 09:45:22 AM

I considered carecredit, but after hearing some reviews from people that used it, I decided not to.


I had to get carecredit due to an emergency, and my APR is 26.99%! I would only recommend getting it if there's an emergency. If you decide to take out a loan for top surgery, you'd probably be able to get lower rates if you get a loan from a bank. But, just saving for it is definitely the most cost-effective way.
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aleon515

Quote from: LearnedHand on November 24, 2012, 10:32:03 AM
I had to get carecredit due to an emergency, and my APR is 26.99%! I would only recommend getting it if there's an emergency. If you decide to take out a loan for top surgery, you'd probably be able to get lower rates if you get a loan from a bank. But, just saving for it is definitely the most cost-effective way.

I agree. But nice to know it is there anyway. I used CareCredit to pay for vet bills for a cat. (Not my avatar). The cat bills were a $2000. I was able to pay off in 6 months, and since I paid off fast I think it is interest free within that time. (Of course it goes up FAST.)
It's harder getting a bank loan, but depending on your credit it's possible.

I started saving for it.

--Jay J
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Jake P

I just wanted to point out that if you use CareCredit with Dr. Garramone then the APR is only 14.99%. It seems like not a lot of people are aware of that since I always see it being said that it's 26.99%.
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Darrin Scott

Getting loans isn't easy if you either have no credit or bad credit. I've been turned down for multiple loans due to having no credit. I would really suggest saving if you can. That's what I'm going to do. I think in the long run it's the best option even if you don't get to get surgery ASAP.





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aleon515

It's kind of the advantage of CareCredit. It is easier to get a loan. Bank loans can be tricky to get and take days/weeks/perhaps up to a month. OTOH, I was approved for the loan for vet care in a few hours. I think they do very very high volume and are actually set up in vets and doctor's offices and stuff. I can't say bad things as it saved my cat's life.

Not sure re: perhaps the APR will depend on your credit. So that's where a younger person with not a lot of credit will have trouble.

--Jay J
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Darrin Scott

Quote from: aleon515 on November 24, 2012, 06:31:06 PM
It's kind of the advantage of CareCredit. It is easier to get a loan. Bank loans can be tricky to get and take days/weeks/perhaps up to a month. OTOH, I was approved for the loan for vet care in a few hours. I think they do very very high volume and are actually set up in vets and doctor's offices and stuff. I can't say bad things as it saved my cat's life.

Not sure re: perhaps the APR will depend on your credit. So that's where a younger person with not a lot of credit will have trouble.

--Jay J

I was denied for care credit twice. I didn't think it was easier at all.





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DriftingCrow

Quote from: Jake P on November 24, 2012, 02:49:09 PM
I just wanted to point out that if you use CareCredit with Dr. Garramone then the APR is only 14.99%. It seems like not a lot of people are aware of that since I always see it being said that it's 26.99%.

The APR depends on the deal you get with them, they do different promotional things depending on how much you are approved for. When I applied (and I got approved about 2 minutes after applying at the vets office) one offer was six months interest free with an APR of 14.99% on anything you put on your credit within the six months period and that interest will kick in if it's not paid off within that period. Anything put on the card after the six months would have the 26.99% APR.
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aleon515

Thanks LH.

@DS--How easy it would be is relative. If you have good credit then it will be easy. If you are 18 years old, have no credit history, this is all going to be very hard.

--Jay J
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Simon

I'm 31 and CareCredit turned me down. Crappy credit is horrible, lol. Oh well, in the long run it'll be nice not having a mountain of bills related to SRS.
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