Sorry, you aren't on the right track. It still sounds totally male to me. I would never think female hearing that voice. The resonance is way too strong. The only reason it sounds less is you are speaking softer. I made this mistake too when I tried to train my own voice without help of a therapist. The voice I have now I can yell for my dogs etc and still sounds female.

As others said, I don't think singing practice or simply working on pitch does much for feminizing a voice.

Quote from: Stephe on November 24, 2012, 12:40:46 PM
Sorry, you aren't on the right track. It still sounds totally male to me. I would never think female hearing that voice. The resonance is way too strong. The only reason it sounds less is you are speaking softer. I made this mistake too when I tried to train my own voice without help of a therapist. The voice I have now I can yell for my dogs etc and still sounds female.

As others said, I don't think singing practice or simply working on pitch does much for feminizing a voice.

Well, f*** me then...
What did you expect on my fourth day of practice?
Me being able to sing the entire Wagner's Valkyrie in all female voice?

If the resonance is still strong it means I have no way of measuring it, since
I didn't feel any (to very little) whilst speaking the words.

And no, I disagree that it sounds totally male, at the very least it sounds androgynous.
I never said it was sounding female. All I said I was improving.

That leaves two options: either you're wrong on the importance of resonance, meaning there is yet
another factor involved or my relatively large chest cage is at fault here - the resonance is just lost within.

P.S.: I have no time to go see a speech therapist, that's just the way it is. I'm a very busy person.
I'll have enough on my hands with my gender therapist already and my endocrinologist later.
However, I'm confident I can make it on my own. Most of the stuff I learned I did on my own anyways.
There are others like that out there.

Quote from: Alyx Vox on November 24, 2012, 04:01:45 PM

And no, I disagree that it sounds totally male, at the very least it sounds androgynous.
I never said it was sounding female. All I said I was improving.

Sorry, I won't comment anymore then to your posts.

You seem to believe in 4 days you can master this with no therapist. I honestly hear very little difference from your first recording and this one. You aren't even close to androgynous and clearly can't critique your own voice if you believe it is. BTW it took me 6 months of spending 2 hours a day practicing and weekly therapy sessions to get mine where I sound unquestionably female. I spend the first week just learning how to breath correctly. It takes a LOT of practice and some people just need guidance.

Busy or not this is WAY more important than even HRT as far as "passing".

Good luck!

Alyx, Stephe

Calm down the pair of you... it is not doing either of you any good to get wound up about this.

I have run Alyx's recording through my spectrum analyser and here is what it shows. First the pitch is good and is maybe even a little too high. The speech is centered about 220Hz which is ideal but sometimes it starts as high as 280Hz which is very difficult at this early stage. You might benefit from actually lowering your pitch slightly and aiming to be around 200Hz

Next, the pitch drops progressively during each phrase with the last word or syllable being down at 150Hz. This 'drop' is a very male attribute. Try not dropping in pitch near the end of the sentence.

I have listened to the sample a number of times and I cannot put my finger on what needs to be changed. The frequency analysis looks good overall and it does not sound like there is a lot of male resonance in it. I would guess it may be a matter of intonation (how the words are said) but for now keep practising but maybe at a slightly lower pitch.

Quote from: Stephe on November 24, 2012, 06:06:09 PM
Sorry, I won't comment anymore then to your posts.

You seem to believe in 4 days you can master this with no therapist. I honestly hear very little difference from your first recording and this one. You aren't even close to androgynous and clearly can't critique your own voice if you believe it is. BTW it took me 6 months of spending 2 hours a day practicing and weekly therapy sessions to get mine where I sound unquestionably female. I spend the first week just learning how to breath correctly. It takes a LOT of practice and some people just need guidance.

Busy or not this is WAY more important than even HRT as far as "passing".

Good luck!

I'm glad you won't comment anymore on my posts. I have a very low tolerance for stupidity.
I don't believe in anything and I certainly don't believe I can pull it off in four days.
I suggest you get your mental capacity checked by a professional. Good luck with that.

P.S.: luckily your "authoritative" opinion is not the only one that matters.

Quote from: bev2 on November 24, 2012, 07:02:39 PM
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Finally, some constructive criticism! Thank you, I'll work on that.
I'll start manipulating my AA as well. I didn't do it before, I tried yesterday and I've seen
some improvement.

I am in an experimental stage now, trying to find a good way to approach this problem.