gender play<........................cd..tv.........................>ts.....>Post-op ts
                                                                   ^
                                                                  me

Hi Deb,
good question....
so where am i?
um... all over the place? in the middle, sort of in the cd/tv range I guess, though that is generally an mtf designation only... for more thoughts on this, see my (forthcoming) post in Shelley's thread on the TG continuum.*

Alex

* right, so I just fell asleep at my desk.. it's 4 am here... I'll reply to the other thread on monday. (sunday 20 Nov=TG Day of Remembrance, which is already today, so I guess I'll observe silence starting now)

*peace*

What's beyond the right hand end of that spectrum?


Girl in a deformed body, got it fixed, no longer TS 

Hey that's clever Melissa

Here's my try

gender play<........................cd..tv.........................>ts.....>Post-op ts
                                        ^
                                        me

Shelley

I'm not exactly sure where I fall on the line but I think I'm about here:

gender play<........................cd..tv.........................>ts.....>Post-op ts
                                       ^   
                                      me

                   down the road>>>>>
                   I'm not sure where
                   the path will lead..                               

Quote "down the road>>>>>
                  I'm not sure where
                  the path will lead.. "   

Ahh, an open Lisabeth,

I think you will find that helpful here.

Shelley

OK. I am out of the loop here, I admit.

Can someone tell me why transsexual is separate from post-op transsexual on your TG line?

Surgery changes physical sex, not gender role, so why are the two designations seen as separate?

And why is ->-bleeped-<- separate from CD?  Aren't they the same thing?  Does a TV dress in the opposite clothing more often?  Hmmm?

I am old school, and in the old days, there were only ->-bleeped-<-s, no transsexuals.

Just curious?  Or nosey depending on your POV?   

Even more importantly, why does it matter?

I too do not know where the road will lead.  I feel a great deal of trepidation just thinking about it, although it consumes a much higher percentage of my conscious thought than ever before.

gender play<........................cd..tv.........................>ts.....>Post-op ts
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                                                                             me

Nobody else knows, and probably not very many suspect the truth. 

Hi Thundra,

Well, I was just trying to show it as a 'spectrum' but maybe this would be better:

genderplay>........................<cd/tv>....................>ts.


Why does it matter? Its for self-defining.....mostly for us who feel we are somewhere in the un-named middle places.

All the >...................... has no terms.

Love
DebTV.

Hi Deb,
I'm too sure yet. But I've growing longer fingernails and hair.
Also I'm continually removing most of my (ugly) body hair, even if I'm not dressing up.
I often find myself daydreaming about being physically female.
I guess I'm close too
genderplay>........................<cd/tv>....................>ts
                                              ^
                                            here today.

Jillieann

Quote from: Thundra on November 20, 2005, 02:08:41 PM
I am old school, and in the old days, there were only ->-bleeped-<-s, no transsexuals.
Even more importantly, why does it matter?

Oh there were transsexuals alright, and tvs and cds and genderqueer and all of the gender spectrum that the powers-that-be were too ignorant or unwilling to recognize.  This is a dead point of view, why would you even bring it up?

Why does it matter?  I don't think it does.  I think this was just for the hell of it.  I've almost finished my transition and I'm a woman.  I refuse to identify as TS after SRS.

Dawn

 

gender play<........................cd..tv.........................>ts.....>Post-op ts...............woman

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We could play with this all day. How about this?


gender play<................cd..tv...............>ts.....Pre-op ts.....>Post-op ts............woman
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                                                                        moi

You have some TS who are in the acceptance phase. They know who they are but haven't begun to do anything about it yet.

Cassie

Why,

Cause some of us find it interesting, some of are curious and some of us like to talk about these things.

Pretty simple really.

Shelley

Me as well


gender play<................cd..tv...............>ts.....Pre-op ts.....>Post-op ts............woman
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                                                                        Me

Steph

WWotN

Well, for me, I'm OFF the scale but before post- op. Ican't
imagine it any higher before SRS.

I guess I am up near the high end as I am on the mones, been on  3 years.  I am at a good comfort level with that but wanting to transition at work and be more active in the trans-community.  Don't know if my SO will accept that and hope we are still together at this time next year, I really do love her and she is dealing with the " but I am not a lesbian" thing. If I have to have a label I guess TG would be my choice, don't think I wanna go the GRS route at this point I am getting a bit old and that might finish off any relationship I do have right now..

I have held off commenting on this line as long as I could


gender play<....cd tv...ts...pr op ts...post op ts.....post with ffs....post with bone reduction surgery....post with ovary implants...post with uterus implant..add nauseum...>woman?


beth

Where am I?
Stuck between possible and what seems impossible.
Practically accepted as a CD with my immedicate family.
Emotionally male               middle                           female
                                                    me
female skills    preteen                                  adult female
                     me
passibility   not                                                acceptable
                me
psychological identity            female  with lots of male emotional corruption

half way between here and there with no idea of where here and there are

gender play<................cd..tv...............>ts.....Pre-op ts.....>Post-op ts............woman
                                                   |.................|
                                                           moi

I am not sure exactly where I fit in, thus the range.  My therapist would place me more to the left of my spectrum.  According to her, I don't exibit the personality chacteristics she has seen in her TS clients.  However, she understands that my desire to be female is far more than simple erotica.  She simply isn't convinced that I would be happy being female 24/7.

I have a much boader view as to who I am.  I DO know that my personal view on who I am used to be much broader than what it is now.  This was when I first started to accept me for who I am - a unique individual with a different view on gender than the mainstream public.  Over the past couple of years, as i have learned more about myself, my window has narrowed to what I have shown above.  The more I learn about myself, the narrower the window will become.

Chaunte