Quote from: Forum Admin on November 26, 2012, 09:19:37 AMAnd there's always the desert island question: if it was just you alone and no one else to see, do you still want to transition and/or make changes to a more female existence?

Yes, stranded on a desert island I would still see my chest and lower area as a disgusting deformity.

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Quote from: Forum Admin on November 26, 2012, 09:19:37 AM
And there's always the desert island question: if it was just you alone and no one else to see, do you still want to transition and/or make changes to a more female existence?

I don't really like that question because I don't understand why people keep trying to downplay social dysphoria and act like it doesn't matter

Well, course the desert island question is simplified and not perfect, but it can get someone to think about whether they'd do this strictly for their own benefit. I transitioned for both social and physical dysphoria. Of course, by social dysphoria, I mean a lot more than just the scope of this thread about friends. It certainly matters to me. I apologize if it came off otherwise.

Quote from: Forum Admin on November 26, 2012, 09:19:37 AM
And there's always the desert island question: if it was just you alone and no one else to see, do you still want to transition and/or make changes to a more female existence?

Yes I would.

Before transition I really had no friends...once I started though, lesbians came out of the woodwork everywhere I went, and several of them are friends now.

Also there are several MTF's who have befriended me.

Still no cis-men (gay or straight) or cis-women...and I'm not feeling the need, either.

Quote from: Forum Admin on November 26, 2012, 09:19:37 AM
And there's always the desert island question: if it was just you alone and no one else to see, do you still want to transition and/or make changes to a more female existence?

I can't really say for sure.  I think I'd need to be placed in such a hypothetical situation before I can give a realistic answer. I think I'd worry more about survival and if there were any leisure time after that I'd have to think about it. It may have to take a backburner, to say the least. I always wondered whether I'd say yes sure, even if I had been born in Afghanistan. I prefer not to think about it, not until I'm thrown in such a situation for real. It's too painful just to create the illusion in my head.

Quote from: Forum Admin on November 26, 2012, 09:19:37 AM
And there's always the desert island question: if it was just you alone and no one else to see, do you still want to transition and/or make changes to a more female existence?

I totally would. My transition is for me, no one else.

I make friends quite easily. For some reason people seem to be drawn to me, and once they get to know me they tend to stick around. I have moved 10 times in the last 11 years, so I was unable to keep friends until now.

I have more female than male friends. Right now, the only male friends I have is one guy that I have known since we were 6, and the guy I have been dating. All my other friends are women.

Quote from: Forum Admin on November 26, 2012, 09:19:37 AM
And there's always the desert island question: if it was just you alone and no one else to see, do you still want to transition and/or make changes to a more female existence?

I'm not sure I know what a "female existance" is without other people around (or a male one at that). I'd just be me. Of course if there were some potent hrt berry growing there that would make my body more feminine, I'd gobble them down. And if a hospital ship sailed by with a decent SRS surgeon...

Quote from: Forum Admin on November 26, 2012, 09:56:15 AM
Well, course the desert island question is simplified and not perfect, but it can get someone to think about whether they'd do this strictly for their own benefit. I transitioned for both social and physical dysphoria. Of course, by social dysphoria, I mean a lot more than just the scope of this thread about friends. It certainly matters to me. I apologize if it came off otherwise.

I didn't transition for both. I'm not sure my social dysphoria is really curable, and in some ways transition has made it worse. Of course I deal with it a lot better now because I feel better about my body and my life. But the society I live in is always going to define me in ways that make me uncomfortable.

So I guess I'm on one extreme. But I know people who have transitioned exclusively due to social dysphoria, without experiencing any physical dysphoria at all. And they seem pretty happy. That makes sense to me. If there can be people who transition only for the physical, then there can be people who transition only for the social. And lots of people who do it for both to various degrees.

As for the desert island question? I think I'd just kill myself. I don't do well without human contact.

As long as we're all answering the desert island uestion I'd probably "let myself go" in terms of appearance but still want to be on HRT and would refer to myself as a woman in my desert island memoirs.

Like many others I was friendless or virtually so for most of my life. I had a few acquaintances and many colleagues but few if any friends.

Now? I have friends than I could ever hope for. Besides my friends here, and there are many as you all know, I have friends in society, at work and just meet people in the shops etc.

I seem to have an attraction for people who want to talk to me and pass the time and it isn't out of curiosity.

I have fallen into very natural female friendships with woman who knew me as a 'male' for years, they have just accepted me.

But I think I'm also very happy and confident and people pick up on it.

I honestly think one of my biggest shocks in transition has been attracting so many friends and friendly people.

But mainly woman.