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Are transgender people misrepresented and stereotyped within film and television

Started by paulfilm, December 08, 2012, 06:31:02 PM

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paulfilm

Hello Susans place comunity,

I am a film maker looking into the question Are transgender people misrepresented and stereotyped within film and television?

Just thought I would put the question out to you for initial responses.

Regards,

Paul
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Jenny07

It might be easier to think, when have they been portrayed in a good light.

Very hard to think of any non mainstream movie of TV show that has.

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Joelene9

Quote from: DianaP on December 08, 2012, 07:17:12 PM
Well yes, but so's every other demographic.
I got my first taste of it being a Vietnam era veteran.  We were portrayed as crazed wackos by Hollywood and on TV in the 1970's. 

  Joelene
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EllieBud

Not sure if this helps any, but I live in NYC and last weekend I went to the Margaret Mead Film Festival (she was an anthropologist), and saw a film entitled "Children of Srikandi".

Hopefully a film such as that will help you in making your own film. It was a very eye opening and touching film on mostly women (and a couple of men) and their sexuality and how they identify themselves in modern day Indonesia (the most predominantly Muslim place in the world)
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big kim

Yes they are misrepresented and stereotyped I think most minorities and alternative lifestyles are.I got my first taste of prejudice when i was a biker and was refused service in cafes,bars and shops.
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ToriJo

A better organization to ask this of is GLAAD.  But, yes, I can't think of many movies where a trans person wasn't a victim or perpetrator, or in fact any where the trans person wasn't simply a plot device.  Just showing a trans person living their life as an incidental character without making it a plot device would be a nice change.
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gennee

For a large part, it's never positive. Hollywood and the
media don't always do their homework.
Most have their own agenda, which, isn't always good.
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Cassandra Hyacinth

Oh God. This is a topic that I could rant about for hours, but I'll try and restrain myself.

But yes, I have massive reservations with how trans* people are portrayed in mainstream media. In particular, shows like 'Little Britain' and 'South Park' filled my brain with internalised transphobia, which I've only recently begun to rid myself of. :/

What gets me is that trans men are almost never portrayed at all, whilst trans women are portrayed much more often, yet are almost always cast as deceivers, pathetic losers, mentally deranged etc. My theory is that this is rooted in sexism - because masculine qualities and men are seen as superior, and feminine qualities and women seen as inferior, trans men are seen as being more 'logical' than trans women. Society finds it unbelievable that anyone who has been designated male would 'choose' to embrace femaleness. (N.B. My use of the word 'choose' is because a disturbingly large proportion of the population does indeed assume that being transgender is a choice). This, I reckon, is the basis behind the 'deceiver' trope - women are viewed as sexual objects, and thus trans women are seen as transitioning so that they can receive the sexual attention of men. The idea that trans* people transition for their own self-fulfillment and comfort is never considered.  >:(

And on the off-chance that a trans* person is portrayed with a modicum of sympathy? They'll almost always be all or almost all of the following: binary-identified (non-binary trans* people are a complete non-entity in media...), heterosexual, white, middle-class, cis-passing and conventionally attractive, on hormones, have had or fully intend to have GRS etc. It's a very scripted path which downplays the massive variation that exists amongst trans* people (and from a personal perspective has made me think that I'm 'not really trans*' countless times...) The 'conventionally attractive' clause links back to the sexual objectification described in the previous paragraph. Obviously there's nothing wrong with being a trans* person who does fulfill all or most of those categories, but there should be much more representation outside of those categories...

Speaking of which, there's always the tendency to weigh in heavily on the physical aspects of transitioning. Obviously these are important, but the emotional aspects surely warrant coverage too? And the particularly unhealthy focus on GRS is especially bad. It outright stated that they aren't viewed as 'real' men/women until they've gotten that operation - before that, they merely 'want to become' men/women. Never mind that not all people want it, and many that do are unable to get it for various reasons (often monetary/health reasons) It's also always to the complete detriment of every other aspect of transitioning...

And this lack of diverse and sympathetic representation means that countless BS ideas about trans* people continue to permeate people's minds to this day, which is especially horrible when it's under the guise of 'helping' them (e.g. feminists who claim that trans men are women suffering from intense internalised misogyny).

I'll stop venting now, it's just... god damn it, it annoys me so much sometimes!  >:(
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Shana A

Quote from: paulfilm on December 08, 2012, 06:31:02 PM
I am a film maker looking into the question Are transgender people misrepresented and stereotyped within film and television?

Paul,

Welcome to Susan's!

The short answer to your question is yes. Read through the Arts/Entertainment section of the News Forum and you will see countless articles posted that demonstrate this. That said, there are also various instances of positive images, and I think we'll see more of that as trans people become involved in creating our own film and media.

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tekla

Most media only tells a few stories because there are only a few that are interesting enough and that are possible to tell in that way.  They focus on transistion because it's physical, and hence, it's a visual deal - and movies and TV are visual arts. 

Movies, and to an even larger degree TV has basic stereotypes of everyone.  EVERYONE.  That's how they deal with people in their world. It's a seperate (and frequently far more attractive) deal from reality.  And all the stereotypes are 'interesting' in some way (because everyday stories of average people who are not interesting make for really boring TV and really boring movies), which is another way that it does not mirror, but rather kind of ghosts reality.
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MaidofOrleans

"For transpeople, using the right pronoun is NOT simply a 'political correctness' issue. It's core to the entire struggle transpeople go through. Using the wrong pronoun means 'I don't recognize you as who you are.' It means 'I think you're confused, delusional, or mentally I'll.'. It means 'you're not important enough for me to acknowledge your struggle.'"
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Brooke777

I believe that for the most part yes, they are grossly misrepresented and stereotyped. From what I have seen they generally portray a trans woman as nothing more than a man in a dress. Someone who still looks and acts like a man but wants to be called a woman. Also, they make us out to be disgusting. Both in how they portray us acting, and how people respond to us. However, how do you respectfully work into a story line that an attractive woman is trans without making a big deal about it. I think that respectfully portraying transsexuals is a very difficult task, and if you are able to pull it off I commend you.
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Lesley_Roberta

Well let's consider this though, when was the last time you watched anything in film or otherwise on video where it looked like the director had a clue about any of the content of the show?

I am used to historical films lacking any evidence of technical skill on the part of their 'advisers'.

I am used to science shows that seem to think whimsical schlock belongs on a science based channel.

Why should TG or any non vanilla form of humanity enjoy any special consideration in film? Enjoy the pleasure of being done wrong along with almost anything else in film. I am not sure directors can even read. They have yet to ever interpret a book correctly. We occasionally get a film entertaining enough that the complaining seems to not matter as much is all.
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Emily Aster

Yes, most of them. So much in fact that when I put together what I'm going to say to my friend when I come out to her (she'll be the first friend I do this with), I actually made a note to say that it's not like what you see in the movies.
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Ani

Try googling this:

Reel Gender: Examining the Politics of Trans Images in Film and Media

It's a quite long dissertation that I've only skimmed, but you may find it useful.

-Ani
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eshaver

Hey, I'm no "Rocket Scientist" but I used to play one on the radio . Hell yes , generally we're portrayed as sluts , perverts , and some suicide victim. ellen
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Kevin Peña

Quote from: TessaM on December 29, 2012, 08:10:55 PM
Yep Yep Yep!

Unless your a straight, white, protestant male your not playing this game with a royal flush.

Oh ya? Watch at 1:00



He also typecasts black people.


Once again, EVERY demographic.
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Kevin Peña

Jerry Springer? I saw one episode and felt the need to take a shower to rid myself of that filth!  :icon_blah:
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