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Started by veritasinchains, December 10, 2012, 01:03:53 PM

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veritasinchains

I hope this is a good place for this if not I won't mind it being moved. Btw cool title? I think it fits a little.

As I said in my intro. In my home growing up gender was an A/B situation. There was no grey area and there was no "switching" genders. Side note, I don't call it switching but most of the folks I grew up around would. So I lived in a place where acknowledging that I was physically attracted to men was hard and almost impossible. I came out late in my junior year. I had other feelings but always suppressed them. I am exploring them now. I am Genderfluid. (Ryan if you read this I have you to thank for me finally coming to grasp that.) I thought I was a crossdresser but kept having feelings that it wasn't quite right. I now know that it is the ebb and flow of my gender role changing. I have even begun to notice the subtle changes in my mood and manner. Earlier I was feeling feminine and even thought of myself by my chosen feminine name(I don't know if other Genderfluid people do this but I felt like it). I have started to shop in both sections and while I only have a few items from the women's section I think I look good in them! Unfortunately, I doubt I will get much opportunity to wear them in public and, sadly, less around the house. But I am learning about who I am. I have started the journey. I am currently working on losing weight. I started in 2010 at over 350 and dropped down to 299 then went back up to 315 when I started again on October 9th this year. I am down 38 as of this morning and feel better and better. I am working out again doing a lot of lower body. Side note, even if I didn't crossdress I have no butt now so I need lower body to kinda build it.:P

As a person I am a nerdy introvert. I try to be creative but tend to be lazy and distracted. I have ADHD, Depression, mild OCD, and Social Anxiety Disorder. I am on meds for them all and it is helping me a lot. I wouldn't be here or own my cute little denim skirt if it wasn't for the help from my doctors. I am a loyal friend but I don't make friends easy. I never had many friends growing up and didn't have a bf in High School even though I was out. I was a lonely kid. I didn't know who I really was and I was alone. I learned not to make friends because then I could save the pain if they didn't get along long term. At 8 years old I was suicidal. I got help in time but if it had gone another few months I wouldn't be here. It is a demon I have had to fight time and again since. I had many gender dysphoric feelings as a kid looking back. But I would push them into the back of my mind and convince myself that what I felt when I saw girls act feminine or wear their cute lil short shorts was not envy but disgust. I was wrong but then again hindsight is always 20/20 isn't it?
As far as how I see people is concerned I see them if I can. I don't try to get hung up on little details like political opinion and such. I am truly attracted to someone based on who I perceive them to be not their anatomy. Hmm, Should I add some of this stuff to my profile on (popular dating site)? If a pre-t transman was standing in front of me naked I wouldn't see a woman standing there because I know he isn't one.

As of right now I don't know what the future will bring. I hope I can find that special someone. I have decided that I will keep dieting and exercising till I have the figure I want and I will update my wardrobe to include clothing from either gender. I have determined that if I get to this point and am still not happy when I look into a mirror I will look into seeing a gender counselor. As I said in my intro there are times when I look at my chest in the mirror and it is as if there are missing pieces... two to be exact :P I don't know if this will change with my knowing that I am genderfluid and getting in shape. I just hope that if I am in a relationship and go on any form of hrt (I am not a fan of implants...) that my partner will still love me.

Well that is all my brain can dump for now... I will post more if I come up with anything.
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DeeperThanSwords

I sympathise entirely regarding the problematic attitudes in your upbringing that have adversely affected you, but I'm glad that you've found some medication that helps you.

What name should we call you by?

Aethan
"Fear cuts deeper than swords."



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veritasinchains

Jeremy is fine. I chose Claire Lorna as a first and middle if I wanted to function under a feminine title. I don't know if anyone else has done this but I felt like doing it. Honestly though I have never really gone by Claire outside of a few hours last Sunday:P
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veritasinchains

So I had a bit of a breakthrough this morning! I looked in the mirror this morning. And while I did notice my stubble(too lazy to shave last night :P ) I noticed something else far more surprising. My eyes. I looked at the eyes staring back at me and smiled. I stared at my own face and smiled. For the first time in years I looked at myself in the mirror and didn't feel like I was "good enough", horrid looking, or just "wrong". I actually saw a guy I liked for once. :) (side note I felt masculine today) Now if I could just get that hair to stop falling into my eyes...
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DeeperThanSwords

Quote from: veritasinchains on December 12, 2012, 01:02:11 PM
So I had a bit of a breakthrough this morning! I looked in the mirror this morning. And while I did notice my stubble(too lazy to shave last night :P ) I noticed something else far more surprising. My eyes. I looked at the eyes staring back at me and smiled. I stared at my own face and smiled. For the first time in years I looked at myself in the mirror and didn't feel like I was "good enough", horrid looking, or just "wrong". I actually saw a guy I liked for once. :) (side note I felt masculine today) Now if I could just get that hair to stop falling into my eyes...

That's really good to hear!
"Fear cuts deeper than swords."



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spring0721

So glad to hear about the breakthrough Jeremy! (I'm not sure if you want to go by claire yet or jeremy).  To look in the mirror and finally feel good & okay with what you see, this is amazing. And I'm so glad this has happened to you given your past struggles.  I am so proud also that you are continuing in your goal to get healthy:)  great job , you may have slip ups but don't let those days get you down. I am hoping your counselor can meet with you soon so you can explore all of these feelings. Way to go, and I'm happy for you :)
People are people, treat everyone with the same respect and courtesy that you want to receive.
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veritasinchains

Quote from: spring0721 on December 13, 2012, 07:00:10 PM
So glad to hear about the breakthrough Jeremy! (I'm not sure if you want to go by claire yet or jeremy).  To look in the mirror and finally feel good & okay with what you see, this is amazing. And I'm so glad this has happened to you given your past struggles.  I am so proud also that you are continuing in your goal to get healthy:)  great job , you may have slip ups but don't let those days get you down. I am hoping your counselor can meet with you soon so you can explore all of these feelings. Way to go, and I'm happy for you :)

Well I see a psychologist and a psychiatrist for my other issues. The Psychologist and I have begun briefly talking about my gender issues. But I had the last couple of breakthroughs since I last saw him. As far as the name either is fine really. I intend and want to (as of right now) live as male. But I will allow my feminine self to express openly when I can. I can't around home though... I found out recently that my mother assumes I am talking to a female. I went to visit with a female friend from another forum last weekend. She knows I am talking to someone via text and skype(multiple friends actually) and she assumes it is the friend... I was telling my friend that showed me this site that if and when he meets her I expect issues but I will deal with them. I am worried about the snide and bitter remarks that I will get from some of my family members. Especially if he and I are dating... then she will really have a day when she meets him since he hasn't started T and he figures she will read him as female... I really don't like my family when they get like this... so hung up on someone's anatomy, mode of dress, and ornamentation (ink and piercings etc) that they fail to see the awesome person inside.

Actually on the tattoo and piercing front. I was just remarking to Ryan how I now am considering getting one of either or both. I find it funny I used to hate them and think my skin needed to stay as is so to speak. But with the weightloss and admitting that I am not simply male has kinda broken that. It is almost as if I was just borrowing my body before. I realized I hated it all these years and never wanted to take ownership of it. Now I think I want to take that ownership.

In the end though I don't think I ever want to fully transition. If I am not happy after toning my body and with the right clothes, pads/breast forms, and etc. I may see about my options. In thinking about HRT I don't want to lose full function. I am fine with sterility I don't plan to have any children I can store sperm in case I wanted to(and on a side note I have wondered if a vasectomy would be a good idea anyhow). I just wouldn't want to become impotent... And as far as implants are concerned... I don't really like them most of the ones I have seen look incredibly fake. But that may just be those folks who shoot for DD or bigger. I would see my self with a B-cup at most. I imagine that especially if I wanted to retain some ability to pass as fully male... Of course I don't do a good job of passing as cis-gender now...:P I carry a military surplus map bag(purse) with everything in it(I like empty pockets) I recently started to paint my nails(soooo many colors :D thank goodness for quick dry though I doubt I will stick to one for more than a few days...) and I wear women's deoderant(and body splash mmm roses and lavender) plus most of this week I have worn women's undies(boyshorts and hipsters are my favs (I have a pair of LEI hipsters that are so cute)). Thinking about buying some makeup next... got a bright pink lipstick(maybelline 140 fuchsia fever) and a mint flavored pink glittery lip gloss to accent(Maybelline 15 crushed candy)... not sure when I will be able to wear both of them. I am once again in the closet... Right now I am talking to a friend and that realization hit me...I forgot how much it hurt to live in this tight space... my right leg is cramping trying not to fall over into the rack of coats and shirts I should have gotten rid of five years ago :P
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spring0721

Oh Jeremy, that is so awesome, you finally feel like you have 'ownership' of your body! I'm jumping up and down elated by this!!  It sounds like you are growing stronger within yourself every single day.  As far as your mom/parents reaction to your boyfriend? (I'm guessing that's who you're speaking of that hasn't started t yet)...well, I hope she'll accept him as is and see him the way you do as well, but you can't control other peoples reactions:(  so just be positive and hopefully through all of this whether your family likes it or not, they'll see that you being you makes for a happier Jeremy:) you always hope that those you love will just want you to be happy, and I really hope that for you as well.

As far as transitioning or not all the way, I would just take it one day at a time.  It sounds like you are discovering new things about yourself everyday( example you not wanting tattoo/piercings before but now do) so don't limit yourself for the future.  As far as breast implants, I am not personala fan only because of the upkeep(you have to get them replaced like every 10years) so for me I wouldn't want to have surgery every decade, but that's totally just me.  I think you should explore all of your options and weigh them out before any decisions obviously.
As far as the kids thing,I have to encourage you to bank your sperm only because your mind could change about having children 10 even 20 years from now.  I have friends that always said I'll NEVER have kids but all of a sudden one day they just got 'oh I want a baby so bad' bug! Just nice to have the option later should you change your mind:)
Anyway, I'm really just so happy for you.  It sounds like you're making new friends and I can tell by your tone that venture I say your even a little happy!?  I really hope things go well with your family as well, and you know what if they're not as positive about YOU as they should be...maybe try hanging out with the supportive friends more.
People are people, treat everyone with the same respect and courtesy that you want to receive.
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veritasinchains

Eeek! Not BF Yet hahaha :P But correct he hasn't started T yet. I will admit that if he asked me right now to be with him I would say yes. Even though we have only talked a few times I really want to know him more and more each time we talk. I don't care that he hasn't started T. Or if he never did(he is going to and is really looking forward to it). I don't see his body I see the man inside it. I can't even think of him in any feminine sense without feeling like I am hurting him somehow even if it is an accidental pronoun switch during personal musings(interior monologue). As far as my family... I haven't that many friends until recently I spent most of my time as close to a hermit as I could... I only have a few friends... and, with the exception of two, they are indifferent to my current dilemmas. And neither of them are really that close to where I live that if I was having a crisis and needed closeness to someone they could help me. And I don't think my friends could really help with the bigger issue I have with coming out to family... I still live at home. And neither I nor my mother and her BF can afford for me to move out. Well that isn't entirely true. I may be able to swing a lower range house payment if I had a roommate to help out. But they can't afford for me to move and I don't know anyone I feel I can trust enough right now to live with. Not trust regarding gender and lifestyle rather I have OCD so I would have trouble with someone I didn't think I could trust implicitly having time alone in my home.

I was telling my friend in Canada earlier... one thing I forgot about being in the closet that is worse than the sadness... is the anger. I know they won't accept me. My mother still thinks I am a hetero male... If I told her I was gender fluid masculine she wouldn't accept it. So I have to lie to everyone I know. And that makes me angry.  I guess the reason I didn't remember it was because I was an angry sad kid to begin with. Now I have grown up and calmed down. It really hurts... I have to... no... I will press on. It is the only thing I can do. I have dealt with suicidal thoughts enough I can't let them back in.


Side-note:If my writing style seems to shift in mood or gender role it is because I have a nasty habit of writing posts on forums in bursts... often with hours separating them. I blame my ADHD... So I may be happy or sad rolling masculine or rocking feminine while writing each part...
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Freyja_Joro

Quote from: veritasinchains on December 15, 2012, 04:10:51 PM
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OMG.... you're parallel with me... Wow, from what I can see, you are Bi-Gender, I am that way as well, I was always masculine moments and feminine moments it shifted a lot. But than as I grew older I became more and more Gender Dysphoric, until a few months ago, where I decided enough was enough, stop running away from some taboo and actually do what I have to do, to be happy. I was getting depressed on and off, and I was lashing out on other people... I was making people around me unhappy.

" try to be creative but tend to be lazy and distracted. I have ADHD, Depression, mild OCD, and Social Anxiety Disorder. I am on meds for them all and it is helping me a lot."

I am Creative so that isn't similarity, I have ADHD, Depression and an Anxiety Disorder... I never got an actual diagnoses the doctor just told me I had that. I also have Autistic Traits so yeah.

You aren't alone :), if you ever want to talk to me just me a message. We're all here to talk.
What's the point of following the path society told you to follow if you're lost anyway? Take the unbeaten path.
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spring0721

Hey jeremy, it sounds like Freyja really knows what you're going through! We're all here to help and support each other.  I would like to say one thing tho, don't let your mom and her bf hold you back.  I would start saving a little money every month so that if the time comes that you are able to move you can.  Your mom and her bf are adults, they should not guilt you or depend on you financially to stay afloat.  You need to do what's best for JEREMY! I'm not saying be a complete selfish jerk or anything, but sometimes there are times in your life you have to focus on yourself...I think this is definitely one of those times for you.

Side note.....I hope he'll ask you soon if you like him that much ;)
People are people, treat everyone with the same respect and courtesy that you want to receive.
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veritasinchains

Bi-Gender? That is a good way to put it. I have been calling it gender fluid because it feels a bit more fitting for me. But it is all a title isn't it? As for moving out. I am working on that I have spent a long time feeling like the house paperweight... and I am tired of it. House paperweight by the way as in never changing and used when needed forgotten when not needed. A prime example was yesterday. I have a ton of laundry to do(cleaning closet lots of dusty stuff I can wear again:D and I haven't been keeping up on my cleaning...) and I was told to wait while mom threw two loads through. That was at 11am. 3pm and has she done any laundry? No. I had laundry to do for work today... and she hadn't done a thing. I was forgotten for everyone else's plans. I am growing increasingly weary of my family. I have an alcoholic uncle, grandmother, and aunt(well she is a drinker not necessarily a full alcoholic). My uncle also weighs over 400lbs and I am waiting for the call to attend his funeral as given family history it is coming. He is also one of the family members that I have trouble being around. He makes gay jokes. He does it because he thinks I take it as gentle ribbing. He wouldn't listen if I told him otherwise... I know if he found out about me I would hear the "->-bleeped-<-" jokes(I know that is a dirty word but that is what he would term them).

My grandmother would just stop speaking to me(my grandparents do not know that I am not attracted to women let alone that I kinda am one at times...). My aunt is a wildcard she knows I am attracted to men. If she doesn't she is ignoring it all together as I was recently telling my cousin, at speaking volume, how I had actually worked up the courage to ask a guy out. But I don't know how she would react to news like this. As for my siblings. Well lets just say that I hope either I am wrong or that my niece and nephews are all cisgendered and heterosexual. I may be wrong. But I see my sister's husband freaking out if at age 6 or 7 their son runs over to the girls section and grabs a hello kitty shirt and matching skirt when he says he wants it to wear at school like the other girls. I see my brother reacting about the same with his son and step-daughter.

I do want to move out. I want to be able to dictate my own schedule and plans with a lot more control. I am trying to exert some control regarding my plans now. I am just getting a lot of push back. I will be saving up what I can. I am also working on making friends and finding the proverbial special someone. I finally feel worthy of someone else. Like there really is someone for me and I won't die alone... I have lived to long to just now be feeling that. Part of it is my family again. I recently asked my mom if she thinks medium shirts are in my future. She replied by telling me that she though I wouldn't get below an XL(later she claims she didn't say this) because my shoulders are too wide. And when I asked her if she thought 170 was to thin she said she didn't think I would get far below 220. I know that is wrong I know a guy who is 210 and about my build and height. He doesn't look remotely thin(not fat just not skin and bones) in fact he kinda has a bit of a belly roll :P . So I know that getting below 200 is a great possibility. But between losing weight, counseling, medication, and meeting Ryan I finally feel like I am not a useless thing. A paper weight. Gathering dust on the shelf waiting to be needed.
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spring0721

Veritas, oh my word!! That's the 1st thing that comes to mind after reading your latest post. I literally sounds like none of your family is supporting you, either in your sexuality or your weightloss progress.  What the heck! they are walking all over you, I know you know this.  I have to respectfully try to encourage you to STAND UP for yourself more.  Next time, give your mom 10minutes to get her first load of laundry in, if it's not in then start yours...snooze you lose type of thing!

As far as your mom saying those things about what you could or couldn't get down to weight wise....well I don't know your body frame so it's hard for me to judge or guide you to a healthy weight. I know you haven't physically begun your transition, but I'll give you some hopefully healthy hints either way.  My mom is a doctor and in her office she has these guides to health.  For men they should strive to have a waist size of 36" or less for optimal health. And for women 28" however I read in a nutritional text once that for women a healthy weight is take the number of inches you are over 5' tall and multiply that by 5 then add that to 100lbs.  This is what a woman 'should weigh' plus or minus 10lbs based on whether you are small, medium or large framed.  With that said EVERYONE comes in different shapes and sizes.  I think what you should strive for is to be healthy by eating a balanced diet and workout 5 times a week.  As long as you feel good physically than your weight or shape really doesn't matter in my opinion.  I can tell you that if you do in fact have broad shoulders, I'm picturing along the lines of football player broad, a medium may or may not be in your future just because of bone structure.  You could use a bmi calculator but I dislike them because they don't take into account muscle mass.  My ex husband was 6'2 and he weighed 210 (he played football in college) and was all muscle however bmi calculators always said he was overweight.  My point is, lose weight to feel good for you, but don't set a certain size goal.  Also don't let your mom discourage you, she's your parent and should be encouraging your new healthy lifestyle.
Your uncle, omg...give me his address and I'll punch him for you :) his ridicule and 'teasing' is NOt okay.  In fact it's harassment. Do you live in a house with him too?  Personally i'd tell him to get his lazy behind off the coach and take a walk.  Does he have a wife/girlfriend because with his hostile attitude I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up alone. 
Your grandparents..all I can say is they're old and older generations while it's sad, they just are old school and I think it's too much for them to handle.  My best friend before she transitioned last year lived as a gay man.  Hee came out when we were in high school, and even tho he lived with my family, my grandma refused to even come to our home once he moved in & he was not allowed in hers.  It was really sad especially during holidays because for those years she stopped coming to xmas, but what she was doing was wrong.  Before my friend came out as gay, she loved him, she watched us both when we were babies and picked us up after school.  He was like another grandchild.  I'm sorry you think you may lose your grandparents with this, but you can't hold yourself back for them or anyone else.
I swear Jeremy, if you don't do this for yourself and think of you, you will regret it because it won't go away.  I don't want you to resent yourself later because you didn't start transitioning just because of your family.  You'll resent them, yourself and just be an unhappy person.

Okay, I didn't mean to write so much, but you are in my thoughts.  Please, please, please stop letting your family use you, you're the only one that can stop it.  If you let them, they'll use you to your dying day.  I'm glad you're saving to get out of there, just keep taking small steps!
People are people, treat everyone with the same respect and courtesy that you want to receive.
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veritasinchains

Tonight I am bouncing up an down! I came out to mom. And the only thing that bothered her was that I am choosing to wear nail polish. Which isn't so weird really to me I read that lipstick and nail polish are trending towards popular with men now. She said the reason she thinks the polish bugs her is because her nails are bad and she can't pull that look off. I was dreading telling her for nothing. :`D(tears of joy for those of you playing along at home). I kinda just said it after she was talking about the polish and mentioned that she didn't freak about the clothes. O.O ->-bleeped-<- what clothes? ...Oh Crap! I left a load in that had 2 pair of boy shorts a ladies t and a pair of lace trimmed hipsters... I asked her what clothes and she said "the ones I folded today." And then I just said it. And she was like, "okay can't promise I won't get weird but I will support you"

ps in reply to your last post spring
My bro and sis's hubby are still issues. They are rednecks. They have issues with me liking men. They don't say it but they kinda... well my brother said it was a phase when he first heard it. And my sister's husband... doesn't even want my nephew to have a cabbage patch doll... so I will wait a while. My uncle has been married for 15 years. I don't know what his wife would say but I don't really think he would hate me just... tell bad jokes as he got thoroughly hammered at family dinners... which is odd cause he does support same sex marriage... but perhaps it is a family trait that the filter shuts off when liquor pours on:P Standing up for myself has always been difficult. I am on medication for the anxiety and it has helped. Well the fact that I came out should prove that:D As far as weight... yeah muscle sucks... I only skipped workout tonight cause I had x-mas shopping to do... but last weeks work and this weeks... grr... I have gained enough muscle to offset the fat loss... net 0 lbs down Q.Q... dang it all. So now though I don't feel like home is so bad... Maybe it will get a little better when I don't have to hide who I really am around home (that much... mom gets weird about things in general I suppose but considering my grandparents now it is kinda ingrained in her)

Oh an final thoughts. Do my goals now count as a transition? As of right now I am going to see if diet, exercise, and wardrobe will be enough. I don't really know if I need to fully transition. I also would still have that hangup regarding impotency. And since I identify male part of the time I could save the money on paperwork and stay legally male :P
A last thought and question. While in female mode(at least that is what I call it) I am kinda liking referring to myself by my chosen female name of Claire. I should practice signing in it perhaps... And I even have said in a chat room(anime and videogame type room I actually helped build... well I actually built the current version) while in female that ppl can call me Claire. Actually a couple have when I said it.
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veritasinchains

So I changed the middle name for my chosen female name. I was using Claire Lorna but that didn't feel right. I chose a new name. Claire Michelle. I like it and it fits well. I was hesitant at first but my friend pointed out that a lot of trans folks use slight switches for their names. I.E. My male middle name is Michael. So I was concerned (likely for no reason) that it would be cheesy to use Michelle. But I did anyway because it just feels like it fits.

In the mean time I had something occur last night that surprised me a little. I was pondering what it would be like coming out to my siblings and their spouses. I imagined the conversation (I do this a lot my imagination is kinda odd I can let it run and it will kinda do the work...) and what it may be like if my sister had the issue and her husband (whom I assume will) was the voice of reason. She was turning her back on me and saying you aren't related to me and he shouted, "Dammit Jenny she is your sister!" I was taken a back a little because I didn't chose to use feminine pronouns it just happened. I don't regret it. It is just something that I am rather surprised at considering it was a couple of years after I realized I was attracted to men before I found myself thinking in that mode. And I don't think it has been a full month since my whole gender epiphany. An epiphany that I sincerely thank my friend Ryan for helping me have. I look forward to being there for him as he hopefully begins his HRT next year. And I hope we stay friends for a long time after that.
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veritasinchains

So perhaps my family isn't as closed minded as I thought... I came out to my sister and her husband. And her husband asked If I expected them to freak out. I still have a sister!
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Emily Aster

Very nice. Good to hear results like these.
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veritasinchains

Okay my (unofficial) Bf suggested that I post this. I decided to post it here but may repost it in my bigender thread. I have felt some masculine feelings the last couple of days. I have figured out why. I am off my diet till the first of the year, I haven't exercised in days, I haven't kept up my skin care regime. And amidst all this I feel more male than I did. I am beginning to wonder if my masculinity was like my weight which my psychologist suggested was shielding. I used my weight as a way to hide who I really was from others and the one who really needed to know the real me. Myself. I am starting to contemplate whether or not my male side is the same. My mom has commented on how I have been warm and affectionate the last couple of weeks. I think more than anything this is because I am getting in touch with my femininity. I like it. I always wanted to be cute and never could be. Because of course boys aren't meant to be cute right? I know that is b.s. but still it seems to be the norm anyhow. What I really want to know is has anyone else had this happen? Their birth gender subverts or goes away when they start working towards their actual gender and what they want for it. But when they let off and stop working on it their birth gender starts emerging.
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