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Survival in the rough part of town? A Primer of sorts...

Started by SonadoraXVX, December 27, 2012, 07:35:59 PM

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SonadoraXVX

Hello y'all,

I'm from the suburbs of Los Angeles, CA specifically the South Central L.A./Compton area. I wanted to gather people's experience on how to deal with the rough side of life, in terms of people, environments, and general adversity. I have always grown in the rough/tough section of town, whether it be Southern Texas/Northeastern Mexico or Southern California. I wanted to offers some tips and maybe others may offer tips to me and others, who have no choice but to live in rough environments.

Tips.

1. Never take the same route coming and going, always vary.
2. Always have shades, the darker the better, that way bad hearted people won't see where your eyeballs are seeing.
3. If possible, always have a friend or two to call on, or to go out with, if you can't, get a feeling of your environment, and usually tough neighborhoods all the bad peeps are sound asleep in the early am(ie. 6am-8am). Very people are early morning people.
4. Always carry a jacket with you, in case you get clocked as tg, so you can hide your sillhoutte, a pair of tennis shoes on is always a good idea. If you get labeled the correct gender and not androynous, still don't let your guard down, cis men/women get victimized all the time.
5. A definite destination your going too and when you plan to come back, pay attention to your environment going and coming back.
6. Don't stare, scan and with your scanning, you take in your surroundings, get used to seeing out of your corner of your eyes,  some people can see up to 180 degrees peripheral vision. I can due to my heritage(ie.mesoamerican).

Lucia,
I know this reads trite, but I just had to point it out.
To know thyself is to be blessed, but to know others is to prevent supreme headaches
Sun Tzu said it best, "To know thyself is half the battle won, but to know yourself and the enemy, is to win 100% of the battles".



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SonadoraXVX

Forgot
7. Know when your being "maddogged", or when the person(s)s is telegraphing hostile intent or your being tracked/clocked for hostile intents(ie.you get a bad feeling that something is about to go down) so you can evade and escape.
8. Always have a pen or two handy and a notebook, your pens can be used as jabbing weapons, you'd be surprised.
9. Go to where there is lots of people, since some criminals back off when there are lots of witnesses.

Lucia,
P.S. These have no particiular order at times. Sorry if I don't mention the police or ambulance, they are usually reserved/called when all has gone "down"(ie.the crime) has already happened.

To know thyself is to be blessed, but to know others is to prevent supreme headaches
Sun Tzu said it best, "To know thyself is half the battle won, but to know yourself and the enemy, is to win 100% of the battles".



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Alainaluvsu

IDK what it's like everywhere else, but in the rough parts of New Orleans ...

Don't call the cops. Ever. People will figure out it was you, and they have NO problems murdering you just because you called on a noise violation. I'm not exaggerating even a little, either.

People are generally nice. But obviously don't EVER walk around. Ride a bike. Don't wait for the bus either. Follow the bus route you're going on with your bike.

If you see something bad... get out of there IMMEDIATELY and do NOT make eye contact. People get murdered here on main streets in broad daylight so there's a (small) chance you will see somebody get killed here. If they see you're a witness and know you saw something that can make them go to prison, they will follow you back to your place.

Drive a cheap car. People see a nice car as a target. In fact do that if you visit here. Don't bring your Porche down here and park it in the quarter... people will bust your window out or even steal a tow truck and steal your car (it happens). If you live in the ghetto that shouldn't even be needed to be said though.

Smile, but be short with people. If you walk past them they'll either feel disrespected or that you're afraid. Either way, makes you a target.

Keep a gun in your house and take it to your car. If people see you have a gun, they won't mess with you.
To dream of the person you would like to be is to waste the person you are.



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SonadoraXVX

I do believe it, that NOLA can be super tough and calling the cops can get you killed, even here it happens. Some people find it hard to believe that life can be so cheap here in the U.S., but it can be. Another advice I would like to give,
10. Act like you know where your going, don't seem lost, be resolute.
11. True about disrespecting people, there is a fine line, where you can walk past a person(s) and act respectful, like showing you acknowledge their presence without even making eye contact. I tend to make eye contact from a distance, if I"m walking towards a person(s) and then avert my gaze somewhere else, but also showing respect. That usually means that you are not staring at a person(s) and are intent on challenging them.

Surreal, but true. There is a code one follows in rough, tough neighborhoods.
To know thyself is to be blessed, but to know others is to prevent supreme headaches
Sun Tzu said it best, "To know thyself is half the battle won, but to know yourself and the enemy, is to win 100% of the battles".



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Medusa

WTF where do you live?  :o
I thought it is just in bad movies
IMVU: MedusaTheStrange
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big kim

The best self defence is not to be there but if you have to respect people.I worked as a bus driver for 10 years and had to drive through war zones on my routes I was polite and respectful to some pretty rough characters and got respect back that helped a lot.Never show fear no matter how scared you are and NEVER be forced to get in a car or go with someone. Hope this helps,
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Alainaluvsu

Quote from: Medusa on December 28, 2012, 02:11:36 AM
WTF where do you live?  :o
I thought it is just in bad movies

9th ward in New Orleans. There are days where 4 or 5 people get shot. The other day somebody killed somebody on a main street in front of heavy traffic at 3pm. A school bus was hit. over that 2 day period 5 people were shot and 4 of them were murdered. Mostly the murders are between people who (committing and being victim of them) are heavily into having "street cred". NOPD cannot get ahold of the situation because they are understaffed, corrupt to core, and the people don't trust them to protect them if they say anything to the police. If you look at a crime map over the past 4 months or so, there's only about 30-40% of the city you can live without hearing a gunshot at least once.
To dream of the person you would like to be is to waste the person you are.



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crazy at the coast

wow, I'm glad I live where I do. I work nights at our only convenience store and I don't even worry bout being robbed. I see deputies around regularly and I can walk anywhere in town at any time without fear of being physically harmed unless I trip or something. But then we only have around 420 people here.
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peky

Quote from: Medusa on December 28, 2012, 02:11:36 AM
WTF where do you live?  :o
I thought it is just in bad movies

Every major metropolitan area in the world had this type of areas; you can find them in Paris, Cleveland, Tokyo, London, Amsterdam, etc

Lucia is brave and wise. My wish for Lucia is that she can escape life in those places, they are hell on earth.
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Miharu Barbie

So, I'm here at work.  I was just downstairs in the kitchen making a cup of green tea.  There was a small group of nuns hanging around the lunch room.  I think Sister Janice Maureen was mad-dogging me.

Seriously, this is a great big country with lots of cool places to live.  If you're in need of an adrenaline rush, go ride a roller coaster.  But for heavens sake, get out of those neighborhoods if the living is that bad.

I grew up in the West San Fernando Valley, Sonadora; I'm very familiar with South Central and Compton.  And I'm aware that there are very many lovely neighborhoods in the greater Los Angeles area.  There is no value to living in fear.  Why not seek out less hostile environs?

I left Los Angeles in 2000 for Portland, Oregon.  In the part of town where I live today, the police force is bored senseless because NOTHING EVER HAPPENS!  I never even want to go back to Los Angeles for a visit. 

It sounds like you live in Hell.  Why stay?

Peace to you!
Miharu
FEAR IS NOT THE BOSS OF ME!!!


HRT:                         June 1998
Full Time For Good:     November 1998
Never Looking Back:  Now!
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peky

Quote from: TessaM on December 28, 2012, 11:56:50 AM
wow I would actually be so scared to live in New Orleans from what i've read here (and elsewhere). I understand every city has it's problems but like gun shots every day? People murdered on main streets wow.

How about the St. Laurent or St. Denis Street area? Safe at night?
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Alainaluvsu

Quote from: Miharu Barbie on December 28, 2012, 11:52:03 AM
So, I'm here at work.  I was just downstairs in the kitchen making a cup of green tea.  There was a small group of nuns hanging around the lunch room.  I think Sister Janice Maureen was mad-dogging me.

Seriously, this is a great big country with lots of cool places to live.  If you're in need of an adrenaline rush, go ride a roller coaster.  But for heavens sake, get out of those neighborhoods if the living is that bad.

I grew up in the West San Fernando Valley, Sonadora; I'm very familiar with South Central and Compton.  And I'm aware that there are very many lovely neighborhoods in the greater Los Angeles area.  There is no value to living in fear.  Why not seek out less hostile environs?

I left Los Angeles in 2000 for Portland, Oregon.  In the part of town where I live today, the police force is bored senseless because NOTHING EVER HAPPENS!  I never even want to go back to Los Angeles for a visit. 

It sounds like you live in Hell.  Why stay?

Peace to you!
Miharu

Believe me, I'm gonna move to a safer area around here when my lease is up.

Quote from: TessaM on December 28, 2012, 11:56:50 AM
wow I would actually be so scared to live in New Orleans from what i've read here (and elsewhere). I understand every city has it's problems but like gun shots every day? People murdered on main streets wow.

As effed up as it sounds... it's totally worth it :) This city has her mood swings but her highs shine through all the lows. I do not hear gunshots every day, I've only heard them a couple times in 3 months (... ikr?) I do tend to go out of the way to pick up some food or get gas though, especially at night. Uptown, the area around city park, and the suburbs are really the places to live around there though. I didn't know that when I moved and kinda had to rush to get here. So we settled for the ghetto (which was how I lived my teen years anyways). My street isn't actually that bad but the next block over (in almost all directions) is where it gets crazy.
To dream of the person you would like to be is to waste the person you are.



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Alainaluvsu

Quote from: TessaM on December 28, 2012, 12:28:10 PM
Family friends went to New Orleans for mardi gras. They said it was a great city and that we should go, but I don't think that they spent much if any time in the 9th ward :P

lol... no, probably not. The French Quarter and the neighborhood next to it, and uptown are the biggest tourist places and places for Mardi Gras. None of the parades go through the 9th. It is a great city, you should come. I'll show u around :)
To dream of the person you would like to be is to waste the person you are.



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Miharu Barbie

Quote from: Alainaluvsu on December 28, 2012, 01:19:07 PM
.... you should come. I'll show u around :)

An invitation from a pretty girl, Tessa.... How can you refuse?
FEAR IS NOT THE BOSS OF ME!!!


HRT:                         June 1998
Full Time For Good:     November 1998
Never Looking Back:  Now!
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Alainaluvsu

To dream of the person you would like to be is to waste the person you are.



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SonadoraXVX

Like Aliana said, L.A. like NOLA has its high and its low, I was a baby when brought to L.A., so I had no choice, you grow up used to where you live and oddly appreciate it, I know I do. The great places to visit are Santa Monica, West L.A.,Newport Beach and the Southbay part of Los Angeles. Believe  it or not, parts of Southcentral L.A. and Compton are pretty decent areas. Some parts are notoriously rough. You get a sense of where and when to go where. The block over other than where I live, well, lets just say its rough.  Compton is changing alot, with more hispanics, and its better in some areas and just the same in others, just that it has a different feel. Southcentral L.A., well lets just say, you'd better know where your going, I do, I"m 44 years old and have been living here on and off, 35 years of my life Southcentral L.A., has more Mexican/Central American immigrants, then East L.A., which has more mexican american/central americans born in the U.S.  Through the thick and thins, you get used to life here and tend to appreciate life a little bit more, then in other areas. One thing about where I live, the culture is way less Americanized then East L.A., there is sort of a clash between American and authentic Mexican/Central American culture, Spanish is the first language in some parts of L.A., and waving the mexican/central american/south american flags is common here, other than the U.S. flag. Believe it or not, coming to L.A. here, is still safer than Mexico/Central American and some South American countries, dont' believe me, read their newspapers. In other parts of L.A. County, you hear Persian, Korean, Chinese, Russian, Armenian, Cambodian, Tagalog, to sum it up, over 100 different languages all over the place. Wierd but it adds a nice flavor to the neighborhoods and L.A. metro/County, some people abhor how unamerican some immigrants are, but immigrants they know this is the U.S., and do their best to acclimitize to American ways, its not easy learning a different language or culture.

Anyway, this is a primer if you have no other choice but to survive rough environments, other than a warzone, yea yea, I heard it before we live in a warzone and some parts are becoming a third world, but trust me, warzones are far worse, like Iraq, Afghanistan, Africa, some parts of Asia, even Mexico with their narcoterrorism, America has it light so far.

Lucia,
P.S. just wanted to add the lighter side of this topic.  All in all, L.A. is complicated like life.
To know thyself is to be blessed, but to know others is to prevent supreme headaches
Sun Tzu said it best, "To know thyself is half the battle won, but to know yourself and the enemy, is to win 100% of the battles".



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Emily Aster

Quote from: Alainaluvsu on December 27, 2012, 08:30:06 PM
Drive a cheap car. People see a nice car as a target. In fact do that if you visit here. Don't bring your Porche down here and park it in the quarter... people will bust your window out or even steal a tow truck and steal your car (it happens). If you live in the ghetto that shouldn't even be needed to be said though.

Interesting. I've lived in some rough neighborhoods, thankfully not anymore. The hide what you have so people don't steal it I know well, but I learned the opposite on the car. Must just be the type of crime in the neighborhood. Where I lived, when people saw some idiot driving a porsche through the projects, they made it a point not to mess with them because nobody drives an expensive car in the projects unless they're a dealer.

Quote from: Alainaluvsu on December 28, 2012, 10:08:43 AM
There are days where 4 or 5 people get shot.

The actually sounds worse than the parts of Philly I was in. Glad I never lived there.
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Alainaluvsu

Quote from: Emily52736 on December 28, 2012, 02:28:08 PM
The actually sounds worse than the parts of Philly I was in. Glad I never lived there.

It's pretty dangerous here (my neighborhood), but nobody has messed with me. My neighbors are really nice actually. A gay couple lives right across the street and there are 4 other transsexuals that live in this neighborhood that I know of, with another on the way (my new roommate).  Nobody here messes with you for being trans. It's pretty close to normal here tbh.

Like I said, it's almost all street cred related and IDC about that stuff at all. Really, it's all about respect. If you disrespect someone, you'll get shot. Pretty freaking senseless. The bad part is that it doesn't matter where you are in the city (unless you're uptown, downtown, near or in city park, or in the quarter, marigny, or bywater) ... you have a very small chance of getting hit by a stray bullet at any time of the day.

To dream of the person you would like to be is to waste the person you are.



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WorkerBeast

Thank you for posting this, I grew up in a not so great place but since I looked like a cute girl and harmless I got a pass. I have been concerned as of late about presenting as male and how that will chance my life skills.
As soon as you trust yourself, you will know how to live. – Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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V M

I've lived in some pretty rough areas of Southern Calif. To be honest, sometimes I'm not really quite sure how I survived , but I did

There was some pretty bad stuff going on, you heard about someone getting harmed or killed fairly regularly, it is really important to have your wits about you and be aware of your surroundings 
The main things to remember in life are Love, Kindness, Understanding and Respect - Always make forward progress

Superficial fanny kissing friends are a dime a dozen, a TRUE FRIEND however is PRICELESS


- V M
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