Very interesting, Drill. Especially the interpretations on the images. When I saw the first one, I was thinking 'uber masculine Amazon'.  But I guess the presentation is femme, 'sexy', etc.

So when you're feeling like a masculine woman in your blog, is this mostly based on identity and physical appearance for you?

Very interesting though. Thanks for participating Drill. And everyone else! But keep those answers coming. I'm going to get to the bottom of this gendery stuff. 
I'd like more comments on the pics or post other pics that say something to you about female masculinity, butchness, tomboyishness, etc.

I don't really perceive any of those pictures as female masculinity. Look up Erika Linder.

Quote from: Fat Admin on January 05, 2013, 12:52:22 AM
What is female masculinity?

Well, I'm queer. And in that context it primarily relates to a female with a masculine gender expression. How you present yourself and how you interact with other people framed through our cultural and social norms of gender.

QuoteIs it different from 'male' masculinity?

Very. Because the scales are badly unbalanced. I am masculine of center as a female. But I was perceived as very femme as a boy pre-transition. With essentially the same mannerisms, presentation and attitude.

QuoteIf you consider yourself a masculine female, what does it mean to you? Is it just a matter of working on cars, playing ball, or topping during sex? Or do you consider it a part of your identity?

Identity is a messy word for me. I consider it part of how my identity is defined in our society. The aspects that make me a "masculine female" are part of my identity. The words themselves are not.

For me it's about how I present. How I move. How I talk. How I relate to friends and lovers and people in general.

QuoteOr do you just love or date masculine women? If so, what does that mean to you?

That I'm a narcissist.

QuoteWhat about female masculinity in trans women? Do you think it's the same for masculine trans women as masculine cis women? Or is it different?

Yes, it's different. And no, it's the same. Sorry. There are some shared experiences and some not-shared experiences. Like my dysphoria informs how I present, for example, in a way that cis females generally don't deal with at least in quite the same fashion.

QuoteIf you're a masculine trans woman, is there a difference in how this manifests than masculinity as male?

I guess this doesn't apply to me. I was never perceived as masculine when presenting as male.

Quote from: Sarah7 on January 08, 2013, 12:24:37 AM
I don't really perceive any of those pictures as female masculinity. Look up Erika Linder.

Well, I'm queer. And in that context it primarily relates to a female with a masculine gender expression. How you present yourself and how you interact with other people framed through our cultural and social norms of gender.

Very. Because the scales are badly unbalanced. I am masculine of center as a female. But I was perceived as very femme as a boy pre-transition. With essentially the same mannerisms, presentation and attitude.

Identity is a messy word for me. I consider it part of how my identity is defined in our society. The aspects that make me a "masculine female" are part of my identity. The words themselves are not.

For me it's about how I present. How I move. How I talk. How I relate to friends and lovers and people in general.

That I'm a narcissist.

Yes, it's different. And no, it's the same. Sorry. There are some shared experiences and some not-shared experiences. Like my dysphoria informs how I present, for example, in a way that cis females generally don't deal with at least in quite the same fashion.

I guess this doesn't apply to me. I was never perceived as masculine when presenting as male.

i was going to say things and then you basically went ahead and said them
way to take the words right out of my mouth there

!!! false anger !!!

ok but anyway

i guess all i really have to add is that in the same way that butch (inasmuch as the actions and behaviors that commonly identify those who perceive themselves as butch) informs my self-perception, being masculine and masculine as a female especially is important to me.  i dont up and just identify as "Masculine Female, Yes That's Me" but others see me as such and masculinities (distinctly non male ones and reinterpretations of other male ones but masculinities nonetheless) do make up a part of how i present myself to the world

the same things that got me perceived as a femmetastic gay boy are now the very same things that get me seen as a swaggering dykeasaurus rex

my dysphoria has definitely affected how i present as well though its usually with my reluctance to be perceived as male consistently
finding it happening occasionally is only natural when you present as androdykey as i do but i find id be hamstringed by that consistent misperception in a way that cis females wouldnt (though maybe im more permissive of it than a woman either cis or trans? idk)

Well in my country we had a Toyota Helix add that had a wife take her husbands Helix out then she became a womaniser(drove around hitting on woman) and when she got back home she made her husband make her a sandwich. maybe that it!