For a while I felt like I am having the wrong puberty
I find Face fur depressing
My voice sound like i have a cold
And I do not want chest hair so how do I stop it from growing

I would like a more femail style puberty

I don't think I'd want either puberty -- having my [boobs] hurt and going through the process of bleeding and cramping sounds decidedly not fun.

Hi Andy,

Much depends on how long you've been on HRT, and what format you're taking it as. Different formats, pills, gels, shots, implants etc, all have difference efficiency rates.

Have a chat to your Endo about it and the body hair. They may have an additional preparation to assist in that way. Won't help your once in any way though. That's all up to how you exercise and train that facet.

Keep up the good work. You'll get to where your going to with perseverance.

Be safe, well and happy
Lotsa Huggs
Catherine

I'm not tacking hrt

Hi Andy,

Sorry I don't quite understand what you mean about puberty. Generally speaking, those that are on HRT experience puberty type symptoms as Oestrogen changes various aspects of the brain.

Are you transitioning, and if so, ow are you doing it.

In answer to your question about body hair, talk to your Endocronoligist about various preparations that may diminish the issue

In the meantime, be safe, well and happy
Lotsa Huggs
Catherine

I am genetically mail but I do not want mail puberty
I kind of expect to have or see femail stuff  I would like to either stay as gender neutral as possible or go femail

Hi Andy,

Quote from: andy_pap on December 23, 2012, 07:29:09 PM
I am genetically mail but I do not want mail puberty
I kind of expect to have or see femail stuff  I would like to either stay as gender neutral as possible or go femail

Sorry, but again I'm not understanding what you are trying to get to.

As I understand you are male wanting to experience a female puberty.

The only way to come close to that, is to commence HRT. Depending on our age and other factors will depend on what experience you are able to part take of. You certainly won't experience complete female puberty, HRT will only provide a token gesture of the complete experience.

If you were to take up HRT, your desire to remain gender neutral would not be achieved.

Again I apologise for not understanding your needs, as some of your statements are conflicting

Be safe, well and happy
Lotsa Huggs
Catherine

Sorry I do not explain things well I fear I have made my looks bit thick

I do not know how to explain it I know I am mail both inside and out but I have this thing in my head basically saying " I want to be a girl "all day every day of years I try to see past my mail stuff (in the privet room) all the time even wishing a parts of me will change over night (or drop off ) i try to stop thinking like it but it grows or If i accept it and start cross dressing its wrong some how

After about 13 - 14 years of this I feel like I'm going mad


I have always acted how I wanted to act and im 26

Thank you Andy,
I now understand what you are trying to say. Yes the mind and it's self talk can be a very powerful influence on our thoughts and desires. There is nothing wrong, in what you are experiencing.

Nothing really unusual, what you have described. Perhaps, it may be an idea for you to have a talk with a therapist about what you've just said. Left untreated, may lead to more harmful conditions like, depression, anxiety etc.

Just on a lighter note, you don't want anything to "drop off". Those bits are very important should you wish to do the right thing by them.

Hope you and your family have an enjoyable Christmas

Be safe, well and happy
Lotsa Huggs
Catherine

i tryed to go to the doctors in October thay said that thay would get back to me i am still waiting

i am shore it is not normal all the people i know like or fit in to there gender 100% i never did it built up from when i was a child
scanning my words and action making them not showy/camp then at age 10 -11 i asked my self "am i ment to be a girl" then at age 14-15 i want to be a girl now
at 26 i am a not boy and a not girl

I'm trying to think logical to a illogical problem

OK how do I stop my crazy
After 3 months with no reply from the doctors I feel like thay do not care
It was hard to talk to them

I feel like I can not have a relationship until this is fixed it is pain full to even think about
Constantly thinking what am I
Its make me mad when I think I'm a normal man

Sorry if I keep going on and on
My inside me is truly mashed up

Hi Andy,

Sometimes you need to let these people know how serious your situation is and constantly remind them you are waiting for a reply. Start ringing/contacting them now and don't give up until they do something for you. Even if you have to ring them once a day, they'll soon get the message. Never take a "I'll get back to you, or I'll contact you later" If you get that, qualify it replying, "OK if I haven't heard from you by 'X' I'll ring you.

More than half of your current dilemma has been caused by the anxiety from waiting and not hearing from them.

Hope you get results this week.

Huggs
Catherine

Catherine,

I haven't been here long, but skimming Andy's backlog it's not entirely clear to me, but it doesn't sound like Andy is on HRT. From the vagueness of the posts, it seems Andy might be having trouble communicating clearly with the doctors that he has seen so far?

I'd agree that persistence is a key here. Maybe more self-education too, as I'm getting some mixed messages from how Andy is expressing these feelings?

Andy, are you seeing any sort of gender therapist at this point? What kind of doctors and/or therapists have you talked to so far?

Normal doctor (g.p) and tryed canceling twice the first time i froze up the second time only an hour assessment thay said that thay will get have to me but that was 3 months ago I have never seen a any type of therapist

Do you under stand what I'm saying

Quote from: andy_pap on January 08, 2013, 05:01:40 PM
Normal doctor (g.p) and tryed canceling twice the first time i froze up the second time only an hour assessment thay said that thay will get have to me but that was 3 months ago I have never seen a any type of therapist

Do you under stand what I'm saying

Very few g.p.'s have the experience to deal well with what you're describing. I suggest finding a therapist, especially one who has experience dealing with gender identity issues, and who has experience (the more the better) helping people deal with gender identity issues. We all describe things differently, and it would be irresponsible of me to put ideas in your head, but your description (and the fact that you're posting to these forums) certainly sounds like you need to clarify for yourself, with someone who understands these issues, what it is you want and need to feel whole.

It may take a few missteps, and you may want to ask here or search other resources to find a qualified therapist, who can help you make a plan and may be able to refer you to other medical professionals you may need, and create a roadmap (or some checklists) to help you find the specific help you need, while avoiding getting sent down dead end streets, or getting blown off because someone is not understanding what you need. 

Some medical professionals still allow their personal prejudices to color their treatment, or might just base their care on outdated info when dealing with something relatively rare, and you want to be sure, among other things, to have your caregivers give due attention to all the possibilities. You can pretty much expect that you may need to be very determined (possibly out of your own comfort  zone) in finding the right caregivers, as well as in educating yourself about your condition. But a good therapist ought to be able to help you focus on what is most important for your well-being.

You may also want to re-read some of Catherine's previous answers, and ask more questions if things are unclear, but chances are good you may need to have some one-on-one interaction with someone qualified to help you, and not just rely on responses here, which will be well-meaning, but may miss something important that a qualified therapist would be able to spot.

OK I'll ring them

I do not know what to ask as I think I understand what you two have said so far

Quote from: andy_pap on January 10, 2013, 03:57:40 AM
OK I'll ring them

I do not know what to ask as I think I understand what you two have said so far

Perhaps if you give us a (general) idea of where you are living  (country, province, nothing more specific than that) someone could suggest potential resources to check out.

I just came back from taking my trans son to a therapy session (with his general therapist, someone not dealing with gender issues)... his probably casual and unthinking references to my son as "she" and other female pronouns (my son has expressed his preference to this guy about being addressed with male pronouns) kind of triggered a reaction for me, even though he sees this guy mainly to address some general depression and anxiety issues, not for gender issues.

It was more a problem for me than for my son (though part of that was that the therapist hadn't had reason to use any gendered pronouns during their session... the comments were just ones in passing as I handed him his check and took the receipt for insurance. Probably had more than a little to do with it being a long day out for me, and my reaction to some things I was reading in the waiting area... a book about female adolescence that triggered a lot of memories an issues for me, and left me raw and overemotional, perhaps. I mention it here, only because it was a stark reminder to me that even a decent therapist often has no idea how such "misgenderings" can sometimes affect someone trying to work through feelings like those you've described.

Anyway, knowing your general area would allow me to look up what local resources might be available and it might also spark some interest from others dealing with similar feelings in your area, who might have some personal impressions about people who have the experience to help you come to grips with the feelings you've described.

There is an international database of therapists on this site, but I'm not sure how up-to-date it is. Here's the link. (My son's therapist is on that database, but the reference seems to be to a group that has since reorganized, so some info there is probably not entirely up-to-date.)

I live in the UK (darbyshire)

I fear if I did look it up I will make it wors even though this has been in my head for as long as I remember
I feel like I must act or I will be confused for the rest of my life I just do not know how

I start looking around on line last year later I found this place

Quote from: andy_pap on January 11, 2013, 04:36:20 AM
I live in the UK (darbyshire)

I fear if I did look it up I will make it wors even though this has been in my head for as long as I remember
I feel like I must act or I will be confused for the rest of my life I just do not know how

Better to act out of information than desperation. You might want to seek out some face-to-face support groups. Since I'm unaware of a Darbyshire in the UK I take it you were referring to Derbyshire?

Here's one group... perhaps some of our sisters in the UK can tell you whether it's active and worthwhile?

There also appears to be a Gender Clinic in Nottingham. Link.  Given how this seems to be a struggle for you to cope with, I really do suggest looking for those who you won't have to push hard against or educate on these issues. I hope someone who has worked with it can add some personal recommendation or warning, since I have my own concerns that not all "gender clinics" are created equal, and some may still be set up to do more harm than good. Someone who has direct contact with them should be able to add something more than I can, since I'm coping with this in New Jersey, without benefit of (or some of the frustrations related to) your NHS.

Thank you for the link I did not know there was one  in Nottingham (a buss ride a way)