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Can A MTF Transgender Living Without Sexual Reassignment Surgery (SRS) ?

Started by ddone, January 20, 2013, 05:19:19 PM

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ddone

Can Transgendered Living Without Sexual Reassignment Surgery (SRS) ? Just using the HRT?

Being pre-op means that I probably won't be going swimming any time soon, but I swim like a rock anyway.
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Ms. OBrien CVT

Many do.  Non-op do not wish to have surgery for one reason or another.

  
It does not take courage or bravery to change your gender.  It takes fear of living one more day in the wrong one.~me
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Devlyn

I'm not sure what your question is. Here is the terminology we use here at Susan's:

Quote from: Susan on January 26, 2009, 10:04:38 PM
Community Definitions:

Transgender: an inclusive umbrella term which covers anyone who transcends their birth gender for any reason. This includes but is not limited to Androgynes, Crossdressers, Drag kings, Drag queens, Intersexuals, Transsexuals, and ->-bleeped-<-s.

Androgyne: An androgynous person

Androgynous: Being neither distinguishably masculine nor feminine, as in dress, appearance, or behavior.

Crossdresser: a person wears the clothing of the opposite gender, and has no desire to permanently change their sex. There is generally no sexual motivation for the cross-dressing.

Drag kings: performers, usually gay women or transgendered men - who dress in "drag," clothing associated with the male gender, usually highly exaggerated versions thereof. Drag kings often do drag to perform, singing or lip-syncing and dancing, participating in events such as gay pride parades, cabarets, discotheques, and other celebrations and venues.

Drag queens: performers, usually gay men or transgendered women - who dress in "drag," clothing associated with the female gender, usually highly exaggerated versions thereof. Drag queens often do drag to perform, singing or lip-syncing and dancing, participating in events such as gay pride parades, cabarets, discotheques, and other celebrations and venues.

Intersexual: a person born with the full or partial sex organs of both sexes; with underdeveloped or ambiguous sex organs; a sex chromosome karyotype other than XX or XY; or sex hormone receptor problems which prevent normal absorption of Estrogen or Androgens. Intersexual persons may seek to make their body as congruent as possible with the preferred sex through surgery and hormone treatments.

Significant other: for the purpose of this site, someone close to a person who is transgender. This may be a mother, father, son, daughter, sister, brother, family member, husband, wife, girlfriend, boyfriend, or friend.

Transsexual: a person who is mentally one gender, but has the body of the other. They desire to live and be accepted as a member of the mental gender, this is generally accompanied by the strong desire to make their body as congruent as possible with the preferred sex through surgery and hormone treatments.

->-bleeped-<-: a person who wears the clothing of the opposite gender, and has no desire to permanently change their sex. There is generally a strong sexual motivation for the cross-dressing.

Other terms:

Post-Ops: Transsexuals who have had surgical procedures to make their body as congruent as possible with their preferred sex. For MTF transsexuals this is generally considered to be after Genital surgery (GRS, orchiectomy, and/or penectomy), for FTM transsexuals it is generally considered to be after top surgery.

Pre-ops: Transsexuals who desire to to make their body as congruent as possible with their preferred sex, but have not yet had the surgical procedures for whatever reason.

This is not intended to be a glossary of all tg related terms. This just defines the make-up of the community on this site.
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spacial

Quote from: ddone on January 20, 2013, 05:19:19 PM
Can Transgendered Living Without Sexual Reassignment Surgery (SRS) ? Just using the HRT?

If you mean, as Janet has assumed, Non-op, I'm one.

It's about how you see yourself. Others will see what they want to.
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ddone

Quote from: spacial on January 20, 2013, 05:59:15 PM
If you mean, as Janet has assumed, Non-op, I'm one.

It's about how you see yourself. Others will see what they want to.

how about the locker room test, the wanding at airport security, the DMV, medical exams, Social Security and a host of other struggles against the Gender Police? Do you ever get  too tiring for words?
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spacial

That's how others might see you.

That much is whatever you expect really. As a non-op, (not by choice), I just have to deal with things as I find them. If you apologise for existing, then people won't forgive you.
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seebs

Pretty much, up to you. About the only thing I don't think you are likely to be able/allowed to do is get someone to do all the surgery, but not have any kind of hormone replacement, and I can't imagine anyone actually wanting to do that.

Options that exist:
1. Identify as correct gender to friends/family, let everyone else misgender you because you don't actually care that much.
2. Make some effort to pass.
3. Hormones.
4. Hormones plus at least some surgery. (e.g., some FTM will go for the top surgery so they look right, but not try to get the genitalia fixed because the technology is Not That Good.)
5. Hormones plus all the surgery.

In much of the world (I think?), you need hormones and possibly at least some surgery to get legal ID changed, but at least some places will change it more easily, and I believe some simply won't change it, period.

A couple of people have told me that transitioning is enough work and hassle that, if you can survive living without transitioning, it may be less stressful and painful to just look wrong, especially if your friends and family are supportive. But certainly, some people survive without the full surgery, or even without any surgery. Some because they don't think it's worth it, some because it's expensive and they aren't rich.
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JoanneB

You can easily do it just as my wife did for some 15 years. Including swimming semi-competively and spending summers on the beaches of South Hampton.

The part that sucked is when it came to romance. It is pretty safe to assume just about all guys will freak out and your life may be in danger. I doubt much changed in 20-30 years there
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kelly_aus

Quote from: JoanneB on January 20, 2013, 07:59:50 PM
You can easily do it just as my wife did for some 15 years. Including swimming semi-competively and spending summers on the beaches of South Hampton.

The part that sucked is when it came to romance. It is pretty safe to assume just about all guys will freak out and your life may be in danger. I doubt much changed in 20-30 years there

All guys? I don't think so, at least, not in my experience..
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Stephe

Quote from: ddone on January 20, 2013, 06:23:53 PM
how about the locker room test, the wanding at airport security, the DMV, medical exams, Social Security and a host of other struggles against the Gender Police? Do you ever get  too tiring for words?

None of those are reasons to have surgery.

Quote from: ddone on January 20, 2013, 06:29:05 PM
how about the locker room test, the wanding at airport security, the DMV, medical exams, Social Security and a host of other struggles against the Gender Police? Do you ever get  too tiring for words?

wow same question being repeated while rezzing a 3 year old thread?
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JoanneB

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Kevin Peña

Well, yes you can. I for one just cannot get surgery (except an orchiectomy) for several reasons.

1. I don't hate my penis. I don't love it, but I don't hate it. It's sort of in the middle (no pun intended).
2. It's way too expensive.
3. I'm a cyclist, and not being able to sit down for months would mean no bike for me. Um... heck no!
4. It would hurt... a lot!
5. Paperwork. Ew!

...more that I'm too lazy to type.
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Devlyn

Quote from: Stephe on January 20, 2013, 08:14:41 PM
None of those are reasons to have surgery.

wow same question being repeated while rezzing a 3 year old thread?

If a thread is open, members may post in it. There is no taboo on posting in our older threads, the information there is good and may help someone. However, crossposting the same message is a violation of TOS Rule #12.
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Keaira

With the right wording from your doctor, you can get your marker changed at the BMV. Mine was all ready to change mine but the letter my doctor wrote was a little too vague. And I'm fighting with the BMV over,of all things, my name change! I have a social security card and even a voter's registration card in my new name, but the BMV wants to get pissy with me because my documentation is from the UK, where I was born. As for swimming, I dont go to public pools. So the changing rooms are not an issue.
I'm somewhat of a reluctant non-op. I promised I wouldn't get SRS. The downside is having to tuck for the rest of my life.
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Shawn Sunshine

QuoteBeing pre-op means that I probably won't be going swimming any time soon, but I swim like a rock anyway.


There are some options, find a gym that has private or universal or family room lockers, the YMCA embarcadero  in San Francisco is very helpful to transgender folks there. They have private showers or universal showers where no one else can see, not impossible to find a place.

As far as swimsuits go you could always wear something like this and not have to worry:

http://www.leisurepro.com/prod/AKNMS3.html?ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=AKNMS35XL

I am just using that as an example for larger plus size people, you can get something thicker and it will help conceal you while you swim , top to bottom, I think would be great for those in between transitioning times.
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ddone

Quote from: Keaira on January 20, 2013, 10:35:49 PM
With the right wording from your doctor, you can get your marker changed at the BMV. Mine was all ready to change mine but the letter my doctor wrote was a little too vague. And I'm fighting with the BMV over,of all things, my name change! I have a social security card and even a voter's registration card in my new name, but the BMV wants to get pissy with me because my documentation is from the UK, where I was born. As for swimming, I dont go to public pools. So the changing rooms are not an issue.
I'm somewhat of a reluctant non-op. I promised I wouldn't get SRS. The downside is having to tuck for the rest of my life.

How about sex and future boyfriend?
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Keaira

Well, my sex drive pretty much dropped to nothing when I started hrt. As for a boyfriend.... I'll deal with it when I come to that bridge.  sex isn't everything. ^_^
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Shawn Sunshine

I'd much rather have kissing, hugging, holding, fondling, groping, touching, caressing, tonguing, slobbering and tickling.

Oh and Eskimo and Butterfly Kisses.
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#SupergirlsForJustice
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Devlyn

Quote from: Shawn Sunshine on January 20, 2013, 10:57:40 PM
I'd much rather have kissing, hugging, holding, fondling, groping, touching, caressing, tonguing, slobbering and tickling.

Oh and Eskimo and Butterfly Kisses.

<crosses to the other side of the street>
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Shawn Sunshine

hehe aww come on Devlyn, I promise it will only happen once.  :angel:
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