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Height affected by Hormones? Possible or no?

Started by EmmaS, January 25, 2013, 10:08:14 PM

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EmmaS

So I know from everything I have read that hormones don't make you shorter since I am transitioning to female but I have noticed otherwise. I have always been in between 6'1-6'2 since I was 18, couple years ago but this morning when I was measured, the nurse said I was 5'11. I was pretty shocked to be honest because I don't remember the last time I was under 6'0. So could it be possible that the hormones caused this or is this clearly impossible and some other weird event?

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Megan S

Completely possible. I went from 5'10" to 5'8" within just under 4 months on HRT. Albeit, I am athletic and my physician thought this was due to changes in the connective tissue between the bones, especially the spine as it relates to the effects from estrogen versus saturated with testosterone. I think you will find many of the women on here with similar experiences. My shoe size also went from a women's 10 at the beginning of HRT to now an 8. I love it, especially getting to buy new shoes and clothes!
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EmmaS

Interesting because I've been on hormones for just under 4 months and apparently lost 2 inches of height as of now but I haven't measured my feet but I seriously hope they get smaller, size 14 in womens in not fun when you like cute shoes :'(
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Adabelle

If I stand 'like a girl' with my spine more curved then I lost a whole inch!! However, last time I went to the doctor and stood up straight with my back perfectly against the wall I hadn't lost any height at all. I've been on Estrogen for two years :)
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EmmaS

Hmm that's really interesting, I only measure myself when I stand straight and there is definitely a difference now, so I guess height change could be something rare "ish" in transition or based on your genetics or something else.
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Ms.Behavin

For some the pelvic tilt takes a little.  I think the discs in the spine shrink just a little each.  I've shrunk about 1-1/2" over the last 4 years. Of course that could be old age.  But I've heard of many MtF loosing an inch or two.

Alas, shoe size has not changed.....
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Alainaluvsu

I've gone from 5'5 3/4" to just a slight touch under 5'3".

Shoes went from a 9 mens to an 8 (and some 7 1/2) in womens.
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muuu

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A

Seems possible but unexplained and contested.

Anyhow, I certainly hope it happens to me. Good news are always good, especially when your feet are so wide and high you'd have to wear like 2 sizes longer in most normal shoes for the height to fit. Feeling like you're walking with giant's shoes is a priceless amount of frustration.
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Dahlia

Quote from: muuu on January 25, 2013, 11:34:37 PM
Apparently, according to another forum, you lose cartilage cells, which would reduce the size of cartilage areas. I guess some part of those spinal discs are made out of cartilage, so I assume that's why height is affected. Though, I don't think it explains why some peoples feet shrink... maybe that's because of muscle reduction.


Now, that would be a painful affair for most MTF who claim to have shrunken some inches on hormones, wouldn't it?

Oh, wait, no, they don't complain about having pain, their height is just magically shrunken because of HRT....or is it just wishful thinking or maybe a case of wild imagination perhaps?

HRT can cause osteopororis over the years/decades and it's no fun!

But magically shrinking because of HRT?

Well,  the sad news is you're gonna be perceived by others as taller/bigger/longer...as a (passable) woman.

Cismen are taller, with a bigger head (the headsize won't shrink while on HRT...), bigger shoulders, a wider trunk etc than ciswomen.

Results in being perceived as taller/bigger/longer when living as a woman.

And no, your feet won't shrink magically because of HRT but  yes: your shoesize will increase over the years, because walking and standing on them will 'spread' your feet.

Happens to cismen and women too, over the years/decades.
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Alainaluvsu

Quote from: Dahlia on January 26, 2013, 07:58:40 AM

Now, that would be a painful affair for most MTF who claim to have shrunken some inches on hormones, wouldn't it?

Oh, wait, no, they don't complain about having pain, their height is just magically shrunken because of HRT....or is it just wishful thinking or maybe a case of wild imagination perhaps?

HRT can cause osteopororis over the years/decades and it's no fun!

But magically shrinking because of HRT?

Well,  the sad news is you're gonna be perceived by others as taller/bigger/longer...as a (passable) woman.

Cismen are taller, with a bigger head (the headsize won't shrink while on HRT...), bigger shoulders, a wider trunk etc than ciswomen.

Results in being perceived as taller/bigger/longer when living as a woman.

And no, your feet won't shrink magically because of HRT but  yes: your shoesize will increase over the years, because walking and standing on them will 'spread' your feet.

Happens to cismen and women too, over the years/decades.

Who said any of the changes are magical?

Fat can stop being stored certain places (bottom of feet), causing you to appear smaller. Ligaments can shrink, bringing bones closer together. The natural tilt of the pelvis can change, creating a natural arch in your lower back and making you appear shorter. There's an explanation to some of it.
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BunnyBee

I was about 6'3" and shrunk about an inch early on.  I haven't measured myself in a long time.  I would have to shrink 6 more inches to lose my giraffe status and I haven't, so it seems like not much point.

My feet on the other hand went from size 11.5-12 in mens, idk what the women's analog for that is, down to 10-10.5 (mens to keep it simple.)  It is possible that I was just wearing the wrong size though, but I don't think so.
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Heather

Quote from: TessaM on January 26, 2013, 08:44:46 AM
i wont doubt people who have claimed to lose height as I hear it quite often, but I actually went form 5'5- 5'8. Well, according to my license anyways...
It probable had nothing to do with the HRT your still young and people can still grow into their twenties.
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Dahlia

Quote from: Alainaluvsu on January 26, 2013, 08:42:28 AM
Who said any of the changes are magical?

Fat can stop being stored certain places (bottom of feet), causing you to appear smaller. Ligaments can shrink, bringing bones closer together. The natural tilt of the pelvis can change, creating a natural arch in your lower back and making you appear shorter. There's an explanation to some of it.

I've never heard post menopausal ciswomen on HRT tell the same...nor post hysterectomy ciswomen btw.

Only some MTF on HRT.
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BunnyBee

The goal of going on HRT for post-menopausal women is stasis, not to have radical changes happen to the physical makeup of their bodies.  There have been theories about why HRT can make some trans women shrink a little bit, cartilidge, pelvic tilt, things like that.
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Alainaluvsu

Quote from: Dahlia on January 26, 2013, 09:52:12 AM
I've never heard post menopausal ciswomen on HRT tell the same...nor post hysterectomy ciswomen btw.

Only some MTF on HRT.

Post menopausal women don't stop producing testosterone (and most likely never were producing nearly as much as we have in our life). Our changes come from either a lack of testosterone, or the changes brought on by estrogen that has never been present in the first place.
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Dahlia

Quote from: Alainaluvsu on January 26, 2013, 11:02:46 AM
Post menopausal women don't stop producing testosterone (and most likely never were producing nearly as much as we have in our life). Our changes come from either a lack of testosterone, or the changes brought on by estrogen that has never been present in the first place.

So, FTM start growing taller while on testo?

I think this shrinking from estrogen is just wishful thinking.
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EmmaS

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Dahlia

Quote from: EmmaS on January 26, 2013, 01:47:32 PM
How else would you explain the change then?

Wishful thinking. Besides that: shrinking in height will make your head, shoulder, torso etc look bigger.

I know several dozens MTF in real life and not one of them claims to have shrunken in height.

Several of them say they're considered as tall women whereas they were short men before....while being still the same height.

Just a matter of perception.
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RachelH

Quote from: Dahlia on January 26, 2013, 01:51:35 PM
Wishful thinking. Besides that: shrinking in height will make your head, shoulder, torso etc look bigger.

Why are you so doubtful when so many people report changes? I personally have shrank 5cm and lost 2 shoe sizes, and I have measured myself consistantly for the last 15months.

Prehaps you should remain quiet if all you can say are unsubstantiated things and repeating "Wishful thinking", when others have given possible explanations for the shrinking, and confirmed they have experienced it.
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