Oh but Emma, didn't you know there isn't any scientific evidence or reports written, so it can't possibly be true 

When they were being guys, they wanted to be larger. So they reached for the sky while getting measured, anything to fit the ideal better.


Now that they are trying to fit into other shoes, they shrink and slouch while getting measured, a slight shift in the hips waiste and a posture adjust and whamo! Im 3 inches shorter zomg amazing.

Quote from: Noelle on January 28, 2013, 02:27:32 PM
When they were being guys, they wanted to be larger. So they reached for the sky while getting measured, anything to fit the ideal better.


Now that they are trying to fit into other shoes, they shrink and slouch while getting measured, a slight shift in the hips waiste and a posture adjust and whamo! Im 3 inches shorter zomg amazing.

I don't really know either way who is right or wrong on this subject. I'm definitely not going tell someone who says they have lost height are imagining things. But I can say I never had to try to be taller when I was being measured I just was and I hated it.

Quote from: Noelle on January 28, 2013, 02:27:32 PM
When they were being guys, they wanted to be larger. So they reached for the sky while getting measured, anything to fit the ideal better.


Now that they are trying to fit into other shoes, they shrink and slouch while getting measured, a slight shift in the hips waiste and a posture adjust and whamo! Im 3 inches shorter zomg amazing.

LOL! +1

Quote from: Noelle on January 28, 2013, 02:27:32 PM
When they were being guys, they wanted to be larger. So they reached for the sky while getting measured, anything to fit the ideal better.


Now that they are trying to fit into other shoes, they shrink and slouch while getting measured, a slight shift in the hips waiste and a posture adjust and whamo! Im 3 inches shorter zomg amazing.

Ok, I totally agree with this.  Shoe size for example.  Now I was buying guys shoes I always bought a size larger, I actually wore an 8 but bought a 9 so my feet didn't look so small.  Now after HRT I've been measuring everything six ways from Sunday trying to figure out my women's sizes.  So for a fact I knew my feet where a specific length, how.. I measured from heel to toe on a flat surface several times.. Well I buy a pair of shoes and then suddenly now my feet are smaller.... Wtf!? Pull out the tape measure, and see if I magically shrunk.. Sure enough my feet where smaller... How the heck that is possible I couldn't tell you. But it happened, height was the same but not much, I was always just about 5' 7" now I'm barely 5'6" I'm not complaining it's nice to be a bit smaller but just odd.. The only thing I can think of is that the "t" amped everything up, including the cartilage and now since it's been removed the "swelling" has reduced.  I mean my bones couldn't have shrunk? Meh, it is what it is I guess. 

Quote from: Dahlia on January 26, 2013, 04:00:16 PM
Not to mention the non shrinking nerves running through the cartilage discs and bone discs. All these nerves would tangle and/or get stuck between the bony discs...on several locations.

Someone needs to study anatomy a little more.  Generally spinal nerves and branches do not pass through the cartilage disks at all. They pass around the spinal bones along the protuberances on each vertebra.  So no nerve tangling etc..  While no scientific study has been done yet, it has been clearly documented that many times MTF "WILL" loose a little height mainly due to a slight reduction in the cartilage disk height.  I have documented that I have lost 1-1/2" in height since starting HRT.  You'll be glad to know that I suffered no ill effects or pain in losing that height. 

Also as MtF many times have a longer torso, the slight reduction in height will actually assist in passing. :-P

BTW everyone knows Santa does not live on the moon.  He only goes there on vacation.

Ok I'm so done feeding trolls.

Buying larger shoes so feet look larger? o: I've always had the bad habit of wanting to squeeze in smaller shoes because it made my feet look smaller. Besides, when it's too large, it's so uncomfortable to walk with. x_x

But uhm, yeah, to add to the testimonies, my best friend lived foot shrinkage too. She'd bought shoes when she was just beginning. They fit very well, but she almost never wore them, not being out. Well, after several months of HRT, the shoes, which couldn't have been "broken in" or "stretched" since they were barely ever being used (and only inside, to take a few pictures; never to go out), were way too large. Not "a bit loose but I can still wear them". Not wearable anymore. I don't remember exactly, but I think she said she lost 2 sizes.

It gave her a lesson: Never do your shoe shopping before HRT.

I wonder how I was wearing size 9s in mens just fine... but now some size 8.5 heels in womens are so loose i can pull my toes out of the top without using my hands...

To add, the shoes I bought a few months ago when I reported the shoe size and height change, I had to stop HRT for a few reasons...  (I will be back on the juice soon!)  in the last month, the shoes that DID fit, albeit tightly, do not squeeze onto my feet now....  it's the kind of pain I'm sure is reserved for things such as childbirth.  Perhaps I can relish in that?  meh... either way.  I've never tried to appear taller... That was the last thing I ever wanted.  Without shoes on, in a doctors office, my height changes have been well documented.  So much so, I had to have my driver's license altered, due to the discrepancy.

FACT: I've lost 3/4" in height.
FACT: I've lost a shoe size - I was a womens 10, since I've started hormones I now wear a 9 - the shoes I bought early on no longer fit. All the remaining mens shoes I have are also too big.

I can't deny that it has happened.. I also have no explanation for it - apart from changes to cartilage and other soft tissues. My gyno did suggest that it may happen.

HeatherR: Heh, they're pretty serious where you are. When I went for my driver's license, the man just asked me how tall I was, and when I answered I didn't know, he looked at me, said "that looks like 5 feet 6 inches" and put 168 cm on my license. Wrong, mister, it's 5'5 and 165 cm. And since renewal is only a letter in my mailbox and a few clicks on the Internet, there's no information update, really. xD

Quote from: A on January 28, 2013, 11:07:10 PM
HeatherR: Heh, they're pretty serious where you are. When I went for my driver's license, the man just asked me how tall I was, and when I answered I didn't know, he looked at me, said "that looks like 5 feet 6 inches" and put 168 cm on my license. Wrong, mister, it's 5'5 and 165 cm. And since renewal is only a letter in my mailbox and a few clicks on the Internet, there's no information update, really. xD

Well obviously you've shrunk an inch

Quote from: A on January 28, 2013, 11:07:10 PM
HeatherR: Heh, they're pretty serious where you are. When I went for my driver's license, the man just asked me how tall I was, and when I answered I didn't know, he looked at me, said "that looks like 5 feet 6 inches" and put 168 cm on my license. Wrong, mister, it's 5'5 and 165 cm. And since renewal is only a letter in my mailbox and a few clicks on the Internet, there's no information update, really. xD

Well, my information was collected for a Homeland Security BG check etc...  so they need accurate info

Noelle, uhm, no. At least I have no reason of believing it. That guy's eyes 3 m away from me can't be considered any accurate measurement, and I had no accurate measurement of myself. The only valid data I have is when my doctor measured me, about a year ago: 165 cm. If I shrink, I'll know when I next ask her to measure me, which I don't quite feel like doing, especially.

For those that have seen their shoe size decrease, did you also have a significant loss of weight?

Quote from: Ani on January 29, 2013, 01:01:53 AM
For those that have seen their shoe size decrease, did you also have a significant loss of weight?

I'm about 5kg down from my pre-HRT weight..

By significant I was thinking more than 5kg.  If you google 'shoe size change with weight loss' there are many, many hits.  It seems the length of the foot is mostly due to bone, so one would not expect the length of the foot to change much, but with weight loss you could expect the width to decrease.  Spiro's a diuretic, could that play a part for some?  My feet are pretty boney, so I can't see my shoe size changing much (size 13-14!  )

Quote from: Ani on January 29, 2013, 01:01:53 AM
For those that have seen their shoe size decrease, did you also have a significant loss of weight?

Well for me a year ago I weighed 161lbs now I'm at 135bs.. But the length of my feet have actually changed in addition to the width.

Quote from: A on January 29, 2013, 12:46:11 AM
Noelle, uhm, no. At least I have no reason of believing it. That guy's eyes 3 m away from me can't be considered any accurate measurement, and I had no accurate measurement of myself. The only valid data I have is when my doctor measured me, about a year ago: 165 cm. If I shrink, I'll know when I next ask her to measure me, which I don't quite feel like doing, especially.

Sarcasm

I am also shocked . I went from 5.8ft to 5.58ft(not even 5.6ft)  measurement was took last march.

i was wondering why all my tshirts seemed so long just like if they all stretched(they arrive below my butt) . No wonder why now lol...