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Started by LearnedHand, February 18, 2013, 08:39:07 PM

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DriftingCrow

Hey guys and girls,

I've been thinking about Disney movies lately, and was wondering what your favorite character was when you were a kid?

I know my cis-sister's favorite character is Bell from Beauty and the Beast, along with a lot of other cis-women I know. Did you MTFs identify or wanted to be like the Disney princesses?

I never really identified or wanted to be like the princesses, I think the closest for me was Pocahontas because I like Native American stuff and she saved John Smith in the end, which was badass. I tended to want to be more like the male characters riding horses and waving around swords, and the fight scenes were always my favorite parts of the movies while my sister really liked the romantic scenes. I also only saw Mulan once, but I remember being blown away that a girl could dress up and act like a man.  ;D

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DriftingCrow

I don't think I saw that movie, although I really enjoyed All Dogs Go To Heaven (I am not sure if that's Disney or another one)
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How about when I was a college kid?  ;D Granted, it was a 'B' movie, but 'The Emperor's New Groove' is hands down my favorite Disney movie of all time, and it has two of my favorite characters: Kuzco and Kronk. So snarky...

Mulan was brilliant too though...
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Carrie Liz

First of all, I LOVE Disney animated films. They're still like my absolute favorite form of entertainment, even though I'm now in my mid-20's. (Them and Studio Ghibli movies.)

As a kid, my favorite character was Simba from "The Lion King." (that was my absolute favorite movie as a kid, so it goes without saying.)

In regards to the Disney princesses, honestly, (and I might be in the minority of MtF's here,) I never really liked most of them too much. I LOVED the movies, but not so much the actual characters themselves. To me, they were too girly. They represented everything that I didn't like about femininity (passivity, a constant focus on love and kissing and other "icky stuff," and things like clothing that I didn't really care about at the time.) [Can't help it... you know, I've always been a feminist at heart.] With that said, though, I really did like a lot of the female characters in Disney films... just not a majority of the traditional princess lineup that little girls tended to emulate, like Cinderella and Snow White. For example, I REALLY liked Nala from "The Lion King." She was almost exactly like my real-life female best friend at the time. And I really liked Ariel from "The Little Mermaid" too, and absolutely LOVED Mulan once I finally saw that movie around age 13. I always loved, (and identified with) girls who could fend for themselves, and had a personality, and opinions, and were more active rather than passive and daydream-y. The only exception to this rule was Aurora from "Sleeping Beauty," because I have always absolutely adored her voice. But yeah, that's my history with it. I definitely wasn't one of those gender-dysphoric kids who wished that he could dress in pretty dresses like the girls, and wear makeup, and all of that other stuff that's usually an early sign that they might be transsexual.

Honestly, if you want a female character from an animated film that I actually did really emulate and identify with, I'd go for Nausicaa from the Studio Ghibli film "Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind." (My avatar, actually.) American animation actually has a nasty tendency to always cast girls in the "damsel in distress" role, or the role of the "sensitive one," or just the "pretty object" role. And that is REALLY far away from my female personality (God, I DESPISE these uber-feminine gender roles, just as much as I despise uber-masculine gender roles.) So there was a real glaring lack of female characters that I could actually identify with growing up. It was when I started watching Studio Ghibli films in high school that, for the first time ever, I really started saying "OMG, that's me" when I finally got to watch characters like Nausicaa, Sheeta, Chihiro, and Shuzuku Tsukishima, the likes of which sadly usually don't exist in American animation.
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muffinpants

Oh I love disney movies!! :3 I never really identified with any of the main characters though. I just watched them as movies and had a good time :P Oh oh i remember! I looooved MEEKO! The raccoon from pocahontas! I just thought he was the most adorable and silly thing. And also, as an anthropology major this is pretty much blasphemy but I'll say it anyways! I think pocahontas is one of my very favorite movies, haha. I know it's not historically accurate, I've heard that enough! Just watch it as a movie, not as a portrayal of history! Also, I loooove the hyenas from the lion king, there character design is just so so perfect <3
Modified to add that guuhhh cheeta, i soo agree with you. I always hated that about the disney princesses! I like you're view on that :)
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Kevin Peña

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Awesome girl. Plus, she lives in the woods. What's better than that?

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Emily Aster

I didn't really see Disney movies that much growing up and I don't think I necessarily identified with anybody in any of them, but I did identify with the music in some. The one that comes to mind is the music from Tarzan (Phil Collins).
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King Malachite

I've only see one Disney cartoon movie and that was "The Lion King".  Simba is one of my favorite characters from that movie.  I can relate to him because he didn't feel worthy and tried to run away.
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Midgear

I love me some disney! I watched the hell out of them as a kid. I still love them, I have every masterpiece movie on VHS and I watch them in chronological order every june.

As far as my characters of choice:





Just a side note, guess who is included as a disney princess?

Crazy thought right?
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FTMDiaries

I love Disney movies despite the fact that they tend to not respect the original stories on which they were based. But I could never relate to any of the female characters, which struck me as odd because all my female friends wanted to be one of the princesses and I knew that I was supposed to as well... but I just didn't. Now I know why. ;)

As I child, I loved The Jungle Book and I related to Mowgli, but my all-time favourite is The Lion King, even though I was an adult when it came out. I related to Simba because he had a difficult childhood and lost his father. He spent many years being raised by well-meaning adults who tried to shape him into something he's not. But he still grew into his manhood and became the king he was supposed to be, in spite of the obstacles that had been placed in his path.

Oh, and Mulan? I hated that movie. It was great up until the point where she has to stop pretending to be a boy and had to just go back to her father and accept being a girl again. The message (to me, anyway) was 'OK, you've had your fun... now back to the kitchen with you, little girl'. Ugh.

(Although, to be fair, Mulan did feature one of my favourite gay actors, Harvey Fierstein - so it's not all bad). ;)





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anya921

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Loved all the Disney movies and Esmeralda from Hunchback of Notre Dame was my favorite Disney gal.





But my all time favorite character is Anastasia which is not from a Disney movie though.  I loved everything about that movie. I think deep inside I also wished I was a princess who forgot who she was lol.





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Pica Pica

Easy, I identified with



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Edge

Scar was one of the first fictional characters I identified with. I also want the Beast's castle.
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Shang

Scar was one of my favorites and still is [I have a Scar plushie next to the bed right now :P ].  He's a wickedly mean character and I love it.  And he sings an awesome song.  Another favorite is Beast [not when he's human].  He was such a sad character to me.  Aladdin was also another good one...I generally liked the men a lot in Disney films such as King Triton.  I never could get behind the girls. They were usually "woe is me" or showing off their goods and that was fairly annoying to me. They were rarely "strong" and rarely had ambitions other than marrying the person they loved (or thought they loved).

At least up until "The Princess Frog".  That was a lady I could get behind.  She worked her a** off so she could try to make her dream of owning a restaurant come true.  Yes, she found love along the way, but that was never the first thing on her mind. 

I also liked that movie because of the Shadow Man [Baron Samedi].  He was wicked!  And based off of Baron Samedi...it was just neat for me especially since I lived about 1.5 hours from New Orleans when the movie came out.

Edit: 

1. I'm not saying that all of the female characters were weaklings, but the majority I perceived to have a lack of ambition other than marrying the male.  And I'm not saying all the males were great because their were plenty I wished would have just gone away.

2. I was never able to identify properly with the female characters.  I didn't have any of their attributes.  It's always been easier to identify with the male characters in any movie for me.
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Carrie Liz

Quote from: anya on February 19, 2013, 07:37:58 AM
But my all time favorite character is Anastasia which is from a Disney movie though.  I loved everything about that movie. I think deep inside I also wished I was a princess who forgot who she was lol.


[extremely nerdy fangirlism]
Not to be a pill, but "Anastasia" isn't a Disney movie. It was actually made by Fox Animation Studios, under the direction of a very talented ex-Disney animator named Don Bluth, the same guy who directed "The Secret of NIMH," "An American Tail," "The Land Before Time," and "All Dogs Go to Heaven." Although he got his start with Disney in the 1970's, and was a directing animator on many Disney films including "Pete's Dragon" and "The Rescuers," there was actually a BIG internal split within the Disney company just prior to the development of "The Fox and the Hound," which resulted in Bluth and almost half of the Disney animation staff splitting off to start their own animation studio. After dueling for years in the 1980's, with Bluth actually winning many of the head-to-head box-office battles ("An American Tail" nearly doubled the gross of "The Great Mouse Detective" in 1986, one of Disney's lowest moments,) Disney finally experienced a complete renaissance, beginning with "The Little Mermaid" in 1989, and then they scored box-office smash hit after box-office smash hit, culminating with "The Lion King" in 1994, which shattered all previous records for an animated film. At the same time, Bluth's studio was floundering, producing critical and commercial failures like "The Pebble and the Penguin" and "A Troll in Central Park." Finally, in 1997, Bluth's studio basically said "Okay, Disney, you win. What with your epic princess stories and tales of romance and magic." And they basically completely copied the Disney formula, and made their own princess story, one with Broadway-style musical numbers, an epic romance tale, and even a traditional villain. And POOF! "Anastasia" was born. So admittedly it is easy to confuse this film for a Disney movie, because it is basically a complete copy of the Disney formula from the 1990's, but it actually was, again, made by Don Bluth, Gary Goldman, and 20th-Century Fox, not by Disney.
[/extreme nerdy fangirlism]

(Anyone still awake after reading all of that? :P)
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anya921

Quote from: cheetaking243 on February 19, 2013, 09:46:21 AM

Not to be a pill, but "Anastasia" isn't a Disney movie. It was actually made by Fox Animation Studios,


Absolutely true.  what I meant was " Anastasia which is not from a Disney movie though" I have missed the "not" in my post. Thanks for pointing it out    :D. I will add the missing word to my original post lol


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FTMDiaries

Aaron Gabriel's post about the apparent weakness of female Disney characters made me think of a recent Disney movie in which I actually did enjoy the representation of the princess: Tangled.

Rapunzel is represented as an independent woman (relative to most Disney princesses) and is a strong character in her own right. Naturally, she falls in love with her 'prince' as per the usual Disney formula, but she's the hero of the piece unlike the usual damsel-in-distress nonsense we've come to expect. I was very proud to have my daughters watch that movie and identify with Rapunzel. For a Disney princess, she's quite a positive role model for young girls. :)

Seriously. If you haven't seen Tangled, I recommend you watch it. It's brilliant.





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Shang

"Tangled" was a good one for that.  I forgot about that movie.  I enjoyed it.  XD I loved the guy, though, because he was all suave and kind of a ditz.  It was an adorable combination. xD
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FTMDiaries

Quote from: Aaron Gabriel on February 19, 2013, 10:13:31 AM
"Tangled" was a good one for that.  I forgot about that movie.  I enjoyed it.  XD I loved the guy, though, because he was all suave and kind of a ditz.  It was an adorable combination. xD

The characters were almost the exact antithesis of the usual Disney setup. Awesome stuff and very entertaining to boot. :)





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