When I came out as FtM to one of my brothers, he tried to reassure me that he still loves & supports me by spouting this little gem...

"Don't worry, you'll always be my big sister to me"

Yeah. Let's work on changing that, shall we?

Yeah - my friend and preceptor (who ordained me as a Buddhist) said to me "Oh well, you're still just the same old Padmavyuha." yes but NO. Pay attention, fella.

As far as I'm concerned, all the talk about being "two spirited" fits in this category. Sorry, guys, but my male spirit never existed anywhere except in your imaginations. My maleness was 100% superficial. Inside, I've always been 100% female.

Quote from: Liminal Stranger on February 09, 2013, 01:17:06 PM
"You would have never been like this if I had just kept your father away from you 10 years ago."

I've gotten this one before sort of, but it was more like "Your mother messed you up" as if him trying to beat it out of me would have done any better. He tried to beat femininity out of me without knowing about the trans stuff and we all know how that turned out lol.

Quote from: sophieoftn on March 06, 2013, 06:38:00 AM
As far as I'm concerned, all the talk about being "two spirited" fits in this category. Sorry, guys, but my male spirit never existed anywhere except in your imaginations. My maleness was 100% superficial. Inside, I've always been 100% female.

And that is ok. We're all TG, whatever the explanation or understanding. We just have to be more careful about saying/implying "ALL" TG/TS are this, or that.

Quote from: Beth Andrea on March 06, 2013, 07:36:32 AM
And that is ok. We're all TG, whatever the explanation or understanding. We just have to be more careful about saying/implying "ALL" TG/TS are this, or that.

Yes, I agree --- there are some TG persons for whom "Two Spirited" hits the nail right on the head. The only issues are that, first of all, that's not the case with me --- and that it is premature to assume that someone must automatically have both genders in their personality just because the gender they identify with doesn't agree with the body they were born with.

"I love you but I will not be at your wedding, Seeing you as the bride will be too much to bear. "
One of the most hurtful things my mother said.

Quote from: anya on March 06, 2013, 07:48:09 AM
"I love you but I will not be at your wedding, Seeing you as the bride will be too much to bear. "
One of the most hurtful things my mother said.

Wow...ouch. Sorry to hear that.

"Do you think you could stop annoying me with this $#!t? You seem to bring it up every day."

Hmm...I wonder why. Maybe it's because you say "she" and "her" as much as possible around me on purpose to upset me? I dunno.

Quote from: Liminal Stranger on March 06, 2013, 10:33:05 PM

"Do you think you could stop annoying me with this $#!t? You seem to bring it up every day."

Hmm...I wonder why. Maybe it's because you say "she" and "her" as much as possible around me on purpose to upset me? I dunno.

Sound pretty much like mother and every time we ended up fighting after this conversation. But its getting better now, still its hard to keep her on the topic, but now at least we are fighting less and she use the correct pronouns. Finally...!!!

"But you're gay."- former co-worker

"I don't think he would be a good fit for you... he's not gay!" - my landlady

"OH I know this cute guy; you'd like him, AND he's gay!!" - my cousin

"Your hands don't look very feminine." - former boss

Well my greek male chauvinistic  lab manager misgendered me again in front of my staff (I'm his boss BTW), so I got angry.

Tony I'm sick of you misgendering me it is hurtful and meanspirited. 'Oh but I've known you for so long as a guy that I forget'

(Ouch)  so I went for him in front of all the staff. Well next time you forget I'll cut your balls off, dip on in silver and one in gold and you can wear them as ear rings until you remember.

To the great amusement of my staff and his rather humiliated look.

Quote from: Cindy James on March 07, 2013, 12:33:24 AM
Well my greek male chauvinistic  lab manager misgendered me again in front of my staff (I'm his boss BTW), so I got angry.

Tony I'm sick of you misgendering me it is hurtful and meanspirited. 'Oh but I've known you for so long as a guy that I forget'

(Ouch)  so I went for him in front of all the staff. Well next time you forget I'll cut your balls off, dip on in silver and one in gold and you can wear them as ear rings until you remember.

To the great amusement of my staff and his rather humiliated look.

You go, sis!

I've got a few choice phrases in Greek I can teach you.. Mum knows a few I don't too..  The product of 2 generations of the family going to school with Greek kids.. My mum went to school with some of the parents of kids I went to school with..

Quote from: Mohini on March 07, 2013, 12:23:49 AM
"But you're gay."- former co-worker

"I don't think he would be a good fit for you... he's not gay!" - my landlady

"OH I know this cute guy; you'd like him, AND he's gay!!" - my cousin

urrrrrrrr....... I really hate it when they say this. For god's  sake if I am gay I would be dating women, not men. I rather find this is one of the most offending comments.  Not because they say I am gay, but because implying I am not a woman.

Quote from: anya on March 07, 2013, 01:39:43 AM
urrrrrrrr....... I really hate it when they say this. For god's  sake if I am gay I would be dating women, not men. I rather find this is one of the most offending comments.  Not because they say I am gay, but because implying I am not a woman.

Exactly. My mother and me:

"If that were really true, you wouldn't be dating a boy!"
"I'm a boy dating a boy, Mom."
"You know, your father was right. You're in a school of freaks."
"So what? I can be gay if I want. 95 percent of the kids I know from that place are gay or bi, so I don't see what the huge problem is with me dating a boy. And it's not even that, I just like him for who he is."
*insert tangent rant on how my boyfriend is terrible*
"...And if you want to be gay, just go date a girl already!"
"Uhh, that makes me straight."

She walked off furiously after that. I like people for who they are, not what's in their pants or under their shirts, or what should and shouldn't be. All people have a measure of beauty to them and their colors weave into the fabric of our world, sadly hidden in plain sight because people can't look past the surface.

Nothin' like a little parental love to bitch-slap us into...well, to just bitch-slap us.

I was compared to a drug addict who does unnatural substances to unnaturally alter my body. I feel disgusted and devastated after hearing and experiencing that considering who had the nerve to say this to me.

Quote from: EmmaS on March 14, 2013, 02:12:02 PM
I was compared to a drug addict who does unnatural substances to unnaturally alter my body. I feel disgusted and devastated after hearing and experiencing that considering who had the nerve to say this to me.

Oh joy, join the club...

Quote from: EmmaS on March 14, 2013, 02:12:02 PM
I was compared to a drug addict who does unnatural substances to unnaturally alter my body. I feel disgusted and devastated after hearing and experiencing that considering who had the nerve to say this to me.

God that's awful thing to say. So sorry to hear it

Not that long ago someone criticized me for having tattoos and piercings, then said they thought of transition as "just an extreme body mod."  I tried to explain that one, there are plenty of trans people who aren't into body mods, and that just because I am doesn't mean that I only take T for the sake of being "different" or whatever.  Of course there was no getting through to them.

@EmmaS: I've gotten that too, and it makes me feel even worse because I am a recovering addict.  T has absolutely nothing in common with the substances I used to take.

"but if you like guys, why don't you stay a girl to get more guys? thats what I would do"