If so, it it too late to reconcile it? (ie. just let it go now and hope it never comes up)

I was rumaging through my old stuff and stumbled upon my Selective Service Letter. It says that any changes made except change of address need to be reported to the Selective Service people within ten days. I have legally been my new name and gender for over two months now. I did not notify Selective Service of this. Should I do so now or just forget about it? Will I get in trouble if I don't? Will I be in trouble for filing the change this late?

If I filed the change with the SS department will that have automatically changed with with the Selective Service Department?

I wouldn't worry about it. They're not even using the Selective Service info anyway...and given that they (the Feds) keep only the most violent, terrible people locked up...they're not gonna waste money looking for you.

I had to fill one of those things out after I got out of the AF (6 years active, 2 inactive reserves). I wrote beside my signature, "Signed under duress". Nothing happened.

I don't think it's too bad if you forget about it. If they ever come to you and ask about it, you can just go "aw, geez, I -completely- forgot about it!" and do it then. Would they really punish you? I doubt it.

But of course, keeping all of your papers, accounts and files up to date is always best.

What you do with the Selective Service Board kinda depends upon how old you are.   If you are 18, 19, 20 or so you have to register and keep up your address or it could keep you from getting student loans.   If you are over thirty not so much.   Who knows who is even staffing these boards anymore.    In small rural states like the Dakotas in the twentieth century you used to have the same old people staffing them forever.    These people thought they owned you.    I think that I quit worrying about them when I was in my thirties and I had completed two years in nonmilitary conscientious objector status.   After I finished it in 1972,  I kinda forgot about them, seeings as how I had put my time in.  I was basically 27 years old.

From what I understand is that 18 year old males still have to register today or they can have problems getting student loans and maybe even driver's licences.     Males need to be registered in their data base.   If there is any follow up today, I have no way of knowing.    I guess if you don't want anything from the government today and you have registered and they haven't bothered you yet, who knows.   If you have had your gender legally changed to female who knows how that affects your selective service registration since they don't register females. 

Now transgender males have issues if they have legally changed their gender identity to male do they have to register with their selective service board right after their gender is changed if they are still within military age??

I am glad that I am 66 and way beyond dealing with this issue.

Wait, WHAT? Males in the US have to sign up to a military register, so they can be forced into wars more easily when the time comes? Is that what you mean? Why doesn't the UNO react to such a thing? Not only do they intend to force people into the army, but they're being sexist as well? This is beyond awful.

...Though I should have expected this from somewhere so backwards that their slogan is religious. x_x I'm so lucky not to be a citizen of the United States. I'd do anything to be spared the horrors of the army.

The Selective Service System is not like it was during Vietnam.  There is no draft.  It is more of a standing pool of eligible men to service in case of war.

Quote from: Selective Service System Fast FactsAlmost all male U.S. citizens, and male aliens living in the U.S., who are 18 through 25, are required to register with Selective Service. It's important to know that even though he is registered, a man will not automatically be inducted into the military. In a crisis requiring a draft, men would be called in sequence determined by random lottery number and year of birth. Then, they would be examined for mental, physical and moral fitness by the military before being deferred or exempted from military service or inducted into the Armed Forces.

Quote from: Selective Service System Fast Facts*NOTE:  If a man failed to register with Selective Service, Section 12(g) of the Military Selective Service Act allows non-registrants to receive benefits under specific conditions. As a veteran, or part-time National Guard or Reservist, the man satisfies those conditions with his DD Form 214 showing the dates of his military service, or a current military ID card if still on active duty or a member of the National Guard and Reserves. These documents serve as evidence that the man's failure to register was not knowing and willful. Therefore, men who served on full-time active duty in the U.S. Armed Forces should not be denied student financial aid, loans, or grants; vocational training under WIA; government employment; and security clearances, on the basis of their failure to register with Selective Service. As long as the man has proof of his active duty military service, such as his DD 214, or current military ID card if still on active duty or a member of the National Guard or Reserves, his subsequent failure to register should not be a bar to any benefits or programs, contingent upon registration compliance, for which he is otherwise qualified.

Doesn't make it okay to me. They still intend to force people into the army, and with sexism, at that.

You probably should notify them of the name change; although technically you were supposed to notify them within ten days if you're still under 26, you will most likely have no issues with notifying them now (since there is no active draft they don't usually spend excess resources on issues like this, but if you discover you're not compliant it's best to get so right now). Especially if you're still legally male, you could run into issues with a name mismatch when applying for student loans, etc. that require you to show compliance with the law (this is why FTMs who transition once they're too old to register need to get a letter from Selective Service saying that you weren't required to register).

A side note: If the proposal to allow women in combat goes through, then the Selective Service will most likely need to become "gender neutral" since the reason the Supreme Court upheld it being all-male was because only men could serve in combat roles. Of course for political reason we probably won't see an actual draft (which would require Congressional action to return) unless we see WWIII or something of a similar scale, but they maintain the SSS just in case.

considering the fact that we could theoretically bomb the hell out of any country that would even have an inkling of fighting against us I doubt it will ever see use again.

There is no large country out to get us, China is now our Allie, so is Russia.

Iran poses little threat because ther ignorance is not ignoramous like North Korea which could be devastated in a day.

Quote from: Ms. OBrien VT on March 16, 2013, 10:49:45 PM
The Selective Service System is not like it was during Vietnam.  There is no draft.  It is more of a standing pool of eligible men to service in case of war.

I agree with Ms. OBrien's assessment.  My birth year, 1952, towards the end of the Vietnam was the first birth year they stopped the draft and the last year of the draft lottery according to birthdate.  My lottery number was 300 out of 366 and it was very unlikely for me to be drafted if they didn't stop it.  I joined the Navy before the lottery because I wanted to join anyway.  More men were drafted in the 1950s than during the Vietnam war. 

  Joelene

Quote from: A on March 16, 2013, 10:34:23 PM
Wait, WHAT? Males in the US have to sign up to a military register, so they can be forced into wars more easily when the time comes? Is that what you mean? Why doesn't the UNO react to such a thing? Not only do they intend to force people into the army, but they're being sexist as well? This is beyond awful.

...Though I should have expected this from somewhere so backwards that their slogan is religious. x_x I'm so lucky not to be a citizen of the United States. I'd do anything to be spared the horrors of the army.

Where on the planet do you live?

Conscripted military service is pretty common in a lot of countries. Sweden employed mandatory service for a century and only recently began to convert to a volunteer military. For most of the history of mankind nations have been building armies out of conscripted citizens. The fact is the US military is an entirely volunteer organization and the draft was abolished in 1975, almost 40 years ago.

Here's a list of HORRIBLE countries that have mandatory service:

Algeria
Angola
Austria
Bolivia
Brazil
Chile
Cuba
Cyprus
Denmark
Ecuador
Egypt
Estonia
Finland
Greece
Indonesia
Iran
Israel
Jordan
North Korea
South Korea
Kuwait
Libya
Mexico
Moldova
Myanmar
Netherlands
Norway
Philippines
Russia
Seychelles
Singapore
Switzerland
Syria
Taiwan
Thailand
Turkey
Ukraine
Venezuela

I hope this will be helpful to you in the future.

I know where I must never move, now. :x

But I wonder, the list of countries that, like the US, keep a list of people they can force into the military if they see it fit... it must be so long.

Quote from: Rita on March 17, 2013, 10:13:04 AM
considering the fact that we could theoretically bomb the hell out of any country that would even have an inkling of fighting against us I doubt it will ever see use again.

There is no large country out to get us, China is now our Allie, so is Russia.

Iran poses little threat because ther ignorance is not ignoramous like North Korea which could be devastated in a day.

As far as I understand China is the USA's bank, and If they were truely allie's then why do they still hack the us militery and anything else they can?
Personal I really like the Chinese, got personal friend that is Chinese, nice bloke.

So as far a no other country's out to get ya, I would be taking another look!

Quote from: Angela??? on March 17, 2013, 07:14:30 PM
As far as I understand China is the USA's bank, and If they were truely allie's then why do they still hack the us militery and anything else they can?
Personal I really like the Chinese, got personal friend that is Chinese, nice bloke.

So as far a no other country's out to get ya, I would be taking another look!

The Chinese *people* are actually very nice, from what I've heard. The Chinese *government* however, holds a great deal of US debt and could get very aggressive if it looks like we might default on that debt. Wars have started over less. Plus, they are generally on good political terms with Iran and North Korea, two nations who really don't like us and would love to have access to Chinese weapons systems if relations between the US and China were to break down. It wouldn't be totally unreasonable for the Chinese to let some of their weapons slip into a "rogue nation" to be used against us. They could claim total innocence before the UN and when we finally identified the origin of those weapons, they could argue a case for a "defensive war against US aggressors".

International politics is not about the relations of average people, it is about the relations of psychopathic madmen with power hunger and the ability to cause lots of death and destruction.

I admit I'm biased. If I had infinite decision power, I would shrink countries' armies to the minimum, and give them an exclusively humanitarian / rescue function. I'm still naive enough to think that in today's world, with the UNO and other countries always watching, if I make my country defenseless, no one would dare attack me.

Quote from: Angela??? on March 17, 2013, 07:14:30 PM
As far as I understand China is the USA's bank, and If they were truely allie's then why do they still hack the us militery and anything else they can?
Personal I really like the Chinese, got personal friend that is Chinese, nice bloke.

So as far a no other country's out to get ya, I would be taking another look!

every country is out to get the secrets of the other country, but as far as war is concerned I Just dont see it with China now or ever.

The China is spying on the US, and the US is spying on china, also spying on about every other corner of the world including long held allies.  Every country wants eachothers secrets xD